Warden's Watch

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By: Wayne Saunders / John Nores

This podcast brings you stories from Game Wardens across the world. Listen to their favorite cases, worst cases, what led them to their career, and what makes their job unique. Hosted by retired game wardens Wayne Saunders and John Nores.

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181 Lt. Jason McHenry - Alabama
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181 Lt. Jason McHenry - Alabama

Lt. Jason McHenry joins Wayne from Alabama for the first-ever Warden's Watch interview from the

Yellowhammer State. Jason looks back on a career path that took him from Alabama State Trooper to

youth minister and back into law enforcement as a Conservation Enforcement Officer. The conversation

covers Alabama's unique hunting opportunities, year-round wildlife enforcement challenges, innovative

hunter education programs, and one of the most distinctive conservation K-9 programs in North

America.

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180 Will Seegers - Vermont
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10/16/2026

180 Will Seegers - Vermont

Vermont Game Warden Will Seegers joins Wayne to discuss life as a conservation officer in the Green

Mountain State. From water survival training and cold-water emergencies to boating safety, ice rescue,

and working Vermont's lakes and waterways, Will shares stories from the field and lessons learned

throughout his career.

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TGL046 CORY GAUTEREAUX
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10/08/2026

What happens when a national-security crisis reaches your own backyard—and you refuse to look away?

In this Thin Green Line episode of Warden’s Watch, John Nores and Wayne Saunders welcome Cory Gautereaux, founder of The GOAT Initiative, for a firsthand look at border security, intelligence gathering, human trafficking and environmental crime along the California–Mexico border.

Cory is a San Diego County native, U.S. Army veteran, Christian, husband, father of two daughters and small-business owner. He grew up exploring the same East County trails where he now conducts field operations.

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179 Saving Oka – With NH Turtle Rescue
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09/28/2026

179 Saving Oka – With NH Turtle Rescue

In this episode of Warden’s Watch, Wayne follows up on the disturbing New Hampshire turtle cruelty

case by sitting down with Dallas Huggins and Drew Stevens of the New Hampshire Turtle Rescue. They

share Oka the turtle’s recovery story, explain the challenges facing native turtle populations, and

highlight the conservation work needed to protect these remarkable animals for generations to come.

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178 The Turtle Trap – With Zach Abrahamsson
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09/14/2026

178 The Turtle Trap – With Zach Abrahamsson

A quiet back road, a string of dead turtles, and a community determined to protect local wildlife.

Conservation Officer Zach Abrahamsson joins Warden's Watch to tell the incredible story behind "The

Turtle Trap," an investigation that used a toy turtle decoy to catch a suspect responsible for a shocking

act of wildlife cruelty. From citizen observations to undercover surveillance, this episode highlights the

challenges of proving wildlife crimes and the importance of protecting vulnerable species.

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W10 Lisa Feener & Kelly Irwin – Pack Life
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08/28/2026

W10 Lisa Feener & Kelly Irwin – Pack Life

Kelly Irwin and Lisa Feener join the podcast to share their experiences in the world of hound hunting,

from raising generations of bear dogs to navigating a traditionally male-dominated sport. This

conversation explores memorable hunts, dog breeding, wildlife behavior, mentorship, and the deep

bond between houndsmen and their dogs. More than anything, this episode is about the dogs, the

people who love them, and the traditions that keep the sport alive.

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177 The Creek Kings Case – With Mark Williams
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08/20/2026

177 The Creek Kings Case – With Mark Williams

What happens when modern poaching meets social media fame? Ohio Wildlife Officer Mark Williams

shares the story of the Creek Kings case, an investigation that exposed years of illegal deer hunting

hidden behind a successful YouTube channel. What began with a park visitor finding hunting equipment

in a metro park quickly grew into a massive digital investigation involving trail cameras, cell phone data,

deleted evidence, fake hunting locations, sponsorship money, and some very ambitious trophy hunters.

Mark takes us through th...


176 Open Fields Doctrine - With Chief Travis McLain
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07/26/2026

176 Open Fields Doctrine - With Chief Travis McLain

This week on Warden's Watch, Wayne sits down with Missouri Department of Conservation Chief of

Protection Travis McLain to tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in conservation law: the Open

Fields Doctrine. As both a conservation officer and attorney, Travis breaks down where the doctrine

came from, what it actually means, and why protecting wildlife resources requires a balance between

private property rights and public trust responsibilities.


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175 Jessica Avery – Manitoba, Canada
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07/14/2026

175 Jessica Avery – Manitoba, Canada

Jessica Avery from Manitoba Conservation Officer Service joins Wayne at the North American Game

Warden Museum to talk about her career, life as a conservation officer in Manitoba, serving on the

museum’s board of directors, and some of the incredible places game wardens patrol in northern

Canada. From winter road caribou patrols and -60C mornings to fish poaching stakeouts and wildfire

deployments, Jessica shares what makes conservation work in Manitoba both challenging and

rewarding.

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174 Chris Egan - With Tayton Keezer
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06/25/2026

174 Chris Egan - With Tayton Keezer

This episode brings us a fresh perspective as Conservation Law student Tayton Keezer steps behind the

mic to interview retired New Hampshire CO Chris Egan. What starts as a simple student-to-officer

conversation turns into a mix of mentorship, hard truths, and wild field stories, as Tayton connects what

he’s learning in school to what the job really looks like in the field.


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173 Etienne Daigle – Quebec, Canada
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06/12/2026

173 Etienne Daigle – Quebec, Canada

If you’ve ever wondered what game wardens deal with north of the border, this one delivers. From bear

decoy busts to baby crocodiles in a bunker, “Agent de la faune” Etienne Daigle gives us a front row seat

to wildlife enforcement in Quebec, Canada - and it’s anything but predictable.


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W09 New England Naturals - With Jake DeBow
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05/28/2026

W09 New England Naturals - With Jake DeBow

Jake DeBow didn’t just grow up around trapping; he grew into it, built a life around it, and somehow

turned frozen beaver ponds, late nights, and a sewing machine into a thriving business. In this episode,

Wayne sits down in Jake’s trapping shed to talk about New England Naturals, the art of fur, and why

more people are starting to care about where their food and even their clothing comes from. Spoiler:

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172 For the Fallen: First Sgt. Karl Kelley - Indiana DNR
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05/13/2026

In this National Police Week memorial episode, Wayne sits down with two men who lived through an

unimaginable moment when a training exercise turned into a fight for survival. Retired Indiana DNR

Lieutenant Colonel Terry Hyndman and First Sgt. Tom Jahn revisit the day they lost their friend and

teammate, First Sgt. Karl Kelley, in a swift water incident that still shapes them decades later. It’s a

difficult listen at times - but an important one - and a reminder of what service and brotherhood truly

mean.

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171 Kevin & Kathy Behr - Survivors With Purpose
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05/07/2026

On this episode of Warden’s Watch, we sit down again with Ohio’s Kevin Behr - this time joined by his

wife, Kathy - to talk about survival, recovery, and the purpose they’ve found after Kevin was shot in the

line of duty. Recorded at the International Game Warden Conference, this conversation goes beyond

the incident itself and into what happens after - for officers, spouses, families, and anyone navigating a

critical incident. A powerful update, an honest conversation, and a reminder that survival comes with

responsibility - and...


Field to Fork - Wild Game Cooking with Iron Skillet
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04/23/2026

In this episode of Warden’s Watch, we’re introducing a new sponsor to the show - Iron Skillet Seasonings - and sitting down with the people behind the product. Founder Dennis Dedek and new owner Cody Baciuska join us to talk about how Iron Skillet got its start, why their seasonings are developed specifically for wild game, and what makes them different from anything else on the shelf. From decades‑old family recipes to practical, real‑world cooking advice, this is a conversation about making wild game taste its best - without overcomplicating it.

 

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170 The Ray Anderson Case – Washington State
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04/17/2026

What began as a baffling discovery in a Washington State clearcut quickly turned into one of the most significant wildlife cases in the region – mainly because of the sentence that followed. Officers Lanny McOmber and Sergeant Brian Alexander walk us through a long, technical investigation involving multiple poached elk, complex necropsies, geofence warrants, cutting-edge tech and a suspect who just couldn’t stay away.

 

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169 – PAGC Tracking Team
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04/03/2026

In this episode of Warden’s Watch, we sit down with members of the Pennsylvania Game Commission’s Tracking Team - a rare, highly trained group of game wardens who specialize in man tracking. From grassroots beginnings and intense training standards to real‑world deployments where everything clicks, this conversation explores what it truly means to be experts in the woods. Along the way, the guys share powerful success stories, gear talk, and a reminder that camaraderie might just be the most important tool they carry.

 

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168 Talking Turkey - With Patrick Gibbs & Ben Martin
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03/20/2026

Spring might still be a snow-covered dream up north, but down in Georgia the dogwoods are thinking about blooming – and that means the turkeys are waking up. This week, Georgia Game Warden Patrick Gibbs and Ben Martin of HuntRegs join Wayne for a closer look into the southern turkey season, the surprising quirks of Georgia’s big‑game rules, and why the HuntRegs app is becoming one of the most powerful tools in the field. From license mistakes to a Thanksgiving turkey story involving a dog with questionable morals, this one’s packed with practical advice and classic game warden c...


167 Amanda McKune – Illinois
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03/06/2026

It’s Women’s History Month, and there’s no better time to highlight CPO Amanda McKune - Illinois officer, new mom, and the 2025 NWTF Officer of the Year. Amanda shares the behind‑the‑scenes reality of the job: the long hours, the high‑stakes turkey and deer cases, the instincts that guide her, and the determination that has already defined her first six years in the field. Humble and relentless, she’s exactly the kind of story this month is made to celebrate.

 

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166 Badges on the Bayou
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02/26/2026

On this episode of Warden’s Watch, we head deep into Louisiana with Captain Will Roberts and Sergeant Terry Hicks — two wildlife agents who bring the state’s culture, cases, and Cajun humor to life. From crawfish wars and cooking secrets to big-game patrols, wild night‑hunting busts, and the state’s legendary boat poker runs, Will and Terry share stories that reveal a Louisiana most of us have only imagined. It’s part culture lesson, part law‑enforcement adventure, and entirely Louisiana.


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165 Shawn Elmore – Georgia DNR
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02/13/2026

After more than 30 years with Georgia DNR, Sgt. Shawn Elmore joins Warden’s Watch for a long‑awaited conversation filled with humor, hard lessons, and unforgettable cases. From hunting alongside his dad as a child to becoming one of Georgia’s leading boating‑incident investigators, Shawn shares a mix of heartfelt family stories, outrageous poaching cases, and high‑stakes investigations that helped change state law. Join us for a candid, funny, and deeply human look at life behind the badge.

 

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164 James Mortimore - Nevada
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01/29/2026

In this episode, Wayne sits down with Nevada Game Warden James Mortimore from the floor of the Sheep Show® in Reno, NV - complete with bugling elk echoing in the background! From rescuing kayakers in monsoon swells on Lake Mead to blow-darting mountain lions and tracking illegal alligator sales on Facebook, James has lived the full spectrum of wildlife policing in one of the most diverse law enforcement landscapes in the country. His stories from Las Vegas to Reno show the grit, humor, and sheer unpredictability of being a modern Nevada warden.

 

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163 Larry Hergenroeder – Pennsylvania
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01/16/2026

From growing up with a game warden father to leading investigations, Staff Sergeant and canine handler Larry Hergenroeder has seen it all—and loved every minute of it. In this episode, Larry shares why he believes being a game warden is “the coolest job on earth,” how his canine partners have cracked cases in record time, and why networking through NAWEOA matters more than ever.

 

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TGL045 Andy Huynh
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01/01/2026

In this powerful episode of The Thin Green Line Podcast, we sit down with Andy Huynh, a conservation professional whose career has taken him from global conflict zones to the front lines of wildlife protection.

Andy shares his journey from growing up in Southern California, to military service, to nearly a decade working overseas combating illegal wildlife trade, environmental crime, and transnational criminal organizations. His firsthand experiences reveal how wildlife trafficking fuels terrorism, human trafficking, armed conflict, and genocide—particularly in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.

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162 Polar Bears & Patrols – With Jack Skillings
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12/24/2025

From patrolling on sea ice and responding to polar bear calls to managing wildlife in remote communities, Conservation Officer Jack Skillings takes us deep into the Canadian Arctic. Offering a rare glimpse into wildlife enforcement in the far north, Jack shares the rewards and realities of protecting the environment in some of the most isolated places on Earth.

 

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161 Alone in the Wild – with Isaiah Tuck
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12/11/2025

What happens when a game warden takes on one of the toughest survival challenges on TV? West Virginia's Isaiah Tuck joins Wayne to share his incredible journey from enforcing wildlife laws to braving complete isolation on the hit series Alone. Discover the mental grit, survival skills, and life lessons that come from living off the land - and why solitude can be the ultimate teacher.

 

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160 Warden-Hunter Interactions
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11/29/2025

In this episode of Warden’s Watch, Wayne sits down with Ben Martin, founder of the Hunt Regs app, and Hayden Cook, a Tennessee Wildlife Officer, for a deep dive into warden-hunter interactions, safety in the field, and the story behind one of Tennessee’s most infamous poaching cases - the Maserati Buck. From practical advice for hunters to insights on wildlife law enforcement, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons and strategies to stay compliant in the field.

 

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159 Justice for Dave: A Poacher’s Reckoning
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11/11/2025

In this powerful episode of Warden’s Watch, Pennsylvania Game Wardens Phil Bietsch & TJ Knash share the story of a career-defining poaching case tied to the tragic death of fellow officer David Grove on Veteran’s Day 2010. From building trust to securing confessions, this case is a masterclass in investigative work and emotional resilience. Listen now to hear how justice was served, and a legacy honored.

 

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158 Ricardo Grisolini – New York
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10/30/2025

Ricardo Grisolini, a New York State Environmental Conservation Officer with roots in northern Italy, brings a sharp eye and a sharp wit to wildlife law enforcement. From chasing down poachers to setting up decoy deer that even landowners can’t resist, his stories are packed with twists, laughs, and lessons. In this episode, Ricardo shares some of his most unforgettable and entertaining cases from two decades on the job.

 

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156 Bonus - The Killing Krew Klan: Consequences
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10/19/2025

After the chilling revelations of Episode 156’s “Killing Krew Klan,” the question remained: how would the justice system respond? What consequences did these young trophy hunters face, and did the punishment fit the crime? In this episode, Investigator Patrick Kiely returns to walk us through the penalty phase of the case. Join us as we uncover the final chapter in one of Connecticut’s most disturbing wildlife crimes.

  

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WiseEye Camera Technology
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10/09/2025

On this podcast, we sat down. Two dynamic individuals, Chase Hardage and Jason Ray from the Wise Eye technology company, talk about WiseEye's beginnings. What they're doing and how they're doing things differently and better.

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156 The Killing Krew Klan – With Patrick Kiely
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09/27/2025

In late 2018, the Connecticut Environmental Conservation Police uncovered a chilling case involving a group of young trophy hunters. Over just a few months, they had illegally taken at least 19 deer - often during nighttime hunts near residential neighborhoods. What started as a routine investigation quickly unraveled into something far more disturbing: secret planning sessions, a manifesto detailing their exploits, and a twisted tribute to the grandfather who taught them to night hunt. Join Investigator Patrick Kiely as he recounts the unbelievable story of the “Killing Krew Klan.”

 

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154 North American Game Warden Museum – with Stephanie Lee
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09/22/2025

Tucked into a scenic corner of the International Peace Garden, and straddling the border between North Dakota and Manitoba, Canada, the North American Game Warden Museum stands as the world’s only institution fully dedicated to both educating the public and honoring fallen wildlife officers. This one-of-a-kind museum features a memorial garden, exhibits showcasing uniforms and tools of the trade from decades past, along with a library, audio/visual area, and a fascinating collection of items seized by game wardens from across North America. In this episode, we sit down with museum manager Stephanie Lee for an insightful conversation ah...


155 Blake Patterson – North American Game Warden Museum
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09/19/2025

In this episode, we talk with Sgt. Blake Patterson, a Conservation Officer from Swan River, Manitoba, and President of the North American Game Warden Museum. Blake shares insights from his 17 years in the field and discusses the museum’s role in honoring game wardens and conservation officers across North America. Located at the International Peace Garden, the museum highlights the challenges of the profession and commemorates those who have lost their lives in the line of duty.

 

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153 Murder in Morgan County – with Kirk Kiefer
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08/15/2025

In July 2021, a peaceful family camping trip in Ohio’s vast Appalachian Hills Wilderness Area turned into a chilling crime scene. Two lives were lost, and a community was shaken. In this gripping episode, we sit down with ODNR Investigator Kirk Kiefer to uncover the layers of a complex and haunting double homicide.

 

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152 - 2025 International Game Warden Conference
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08/01/2025

For the third time, we were able to sit down at the International Game Warden Conference held this year in Erie, Pennsylvania, with Game Warden Chris Gilkey of Ohio, Game Warden Kris McCabe of the Maine Warden Service, myself, Wayne Saunders, host of the Warden's Watch podcast, and Game Warden Andy Hueser of the Pennsylvania Game Commission who was also instrumental in the organization and implementation of this year's game warden conference. 


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151 - The Game Warden Channel
07/24/2025

Introducing The Game Warden Channel! From the creators of smash hits North Woods Law and Lone Star Law, TGWC is now streaming exclusively on YouTube - bringing you even more real-life stories from game wardens across the US. In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Steve Engel and Ben Shank of Engel Entertainment, Director of Photography Jamie Azar, and New Hampshire’s own Col. Kevin Jordan and Conservation Officers Jon Demler, Austin Valladares, Kevin Bronson, and Josiah Towne. Subscribe now for an even closer look into the world of conservation law enforcement.

 

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TGL044 Greg Traynor Mike Hudson - Accessible Hunter
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07/17/2025

Greg Traynor and Mike Hudson are the co-hosts of the Accessible Hunter Podcast, a show dedicated to promoting adaptive hunting and outdoor access for individuals with disabilities.

Greg Traynor, a passionate outdoorsman from Pennsylvania, turned his personal experience with a spinal cord injury into a mission to help others overcome physical barriers in the outdoors. Through advocacy, education, and storytelling, Greg inspires hunters to stay connected with the hunting community regardless of ability.

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150 Tony Rigoli – New York
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06/30/2025

Lt. Anthony Rigoli is an Environmental Conservation Officer (ECO) who works for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (NYSDEC). In this episode, he takes us through his time as an ECO based in the last place anyone would expect to run into a game warden - New York City!

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TGL043 Seth Martin
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06/19/2025

Seth Allen Martin is an American cinematographer and camera operator best known for his work on the hit Animal Planet series North Woods Law: New Hampshire. Born in Sumner, Washington, Martin has built a career behind the lens, capturing the rugged beauty and raw intensity of wildlife law enforcement across New England.

With a strong background in independent film and documentary-style production, Martin joined the North Woods Law crew during the show's transition from Maine to New Hampshire. His camera work helped bring viewers closer to the action—documenting everything from high-stakes poaching investigations to remote search-and-rescue mi...