The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming
The Eden Podcast, where we start with a correct understanding of what happened in the Garden of Eden and we share the POSITIVE NEWS OF EDEN. Your host, Rev. Bruce C. E. Fleming, is Co-Founder of the Tru316 Foundation (Tru316.com). Based on the research of his wife, Dr. Joy Fleming, he helps us understand the 7 Key Bible Passages on women and men.
On the Spectrum? A look at 1 Peter 3 with Dr. Stephanie Holmes.
We dive in to this interview on the NeuroDiverse Christian Marriage Podcast. Stephanie has just introduced Bruce.
Her focus was 1 Peter 3 - "Does suffering in silence save your marriage?"
Here is their link: Â www.christianneurodiversemarriage.com/
Go deeper? This discussion refers to the book "Because of Eden" by Bruce C. E. Fleming that answers these questions: "What about 1 Corinthians 11 & 14 and 1 Peter 3?" It is Book 4 in The Eden Book Series, available HERE.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we...
Should Women Preach? He wrote the Book! Dr. Bill Rudd.
"Like a kitten opening its eyes" at last his eyes were opened after more than 40 years of ministry. I had never seriously looked at the passages that I had thought restricted women.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of...
Penny Preaches?? The Authors tell us all about this great children's book!
Are role models important to children who feel God's call to ministry?? Many have said so. Penny Preaches is about the little girl named Penny and how she learned to trust God's call in her life. We interview Rob and Amy Dixon about the story behind their book and its publication. Make sure to get one and share it with the girls you know! From IVF Kids publications.
Amy Dixon grew up as one of seven siblings, so the only peace and quiet she ever got was inside a book. Once she had her own kids, she...
Two Memes on Women and Men in the Bible
WHY do people misinterpret verses on women and men? There are 4 classic reasons. WHAT do the passages on women and men really say? The message is quite positive! Message me if you'd like to receive the two memes that sum up the answers!
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men bec...
Helping Men Become Allies for Women in Ministry -- Dr. Rob Dixon
Some people insist women can’t use their spiritual gifts in ministry. They won’t listen to alternate views. How to help them see that they deviate from Scripture? We asked Dr. Rob Dixon and he pointed us to his recent book, Allies in Ministry: How Men Can Support Women in God’s Mission, IVP Academic, 2026.
Rob has served on InterVarsity Christian Fellowship staff for almost thirty years. He also teaches at Fuller Theological Seminary and Fresno Pacific University. In his free time, Rob goes on long runs, cheers for the L.A. Dodgers, and plays as much p...
Women in Ministry in Sweden and Beyond
On Midsummer Day in Sweden 10,000 Christians celebrate at the Torp Camp Meeting! We interviewed Dr. Göran Janzon to tell us about women preachers, teachers and Bible Translators in Sweden and around the world!Â
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the ep...
1 Tim 2.13-14 Creation Order? No. Eligible for Ministry? Yes!
CREATION ORDER in 1 Timothy 2:13-15a? Not at all! This passage is about ELIGIBILITY FOR CORRECTION. Eve and Paul were both second degree offenders who found mercy from God and were used in ministry. She as mother of the Promised Savior. He as Apostle to the Gentiles.
These insights challenge foundational Complementarian mistakes.
Go deeper? see Book 3 in The Eden Books Series by Bruce C. E. Fleming titled Back to Eden - 1 Timothy 2:8-2:16: Corrected and Restored by Jesus the Faithful Word.
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Bonus! Ministry to 2,000 Littles. From our Time4Littles Podcast.
In locations at meal time Littles sing along to "ABCDEFG! Thank you God for feeding me!" On the Time4Littles Podcast we interviewed CFO Tiffany Simon to learn more.
She reported that incorporating Christ in care for Littles was the spark that led to the founding of the faith-based business that now serves 2,000 Littles. Â More than 600 staff serve in 20 New Creations Child Care & Learning Centers. Tiffany Simon, mother of five, is the CFO!
We asked her if she came to Christ as a Little or later on. We also talked about the need for Christian m...
What does 1 Tim 2:11-12 mean in context? NOT what some people tell you!
Anybody ever point out that Paul told Timothy to correct and restore certain false teachers? No? Here is a simplified Adult class lesson I taught in church last Sunday. We cover 1 Timothy 1:1 up through chapter 2 verse 12. And NO Paul wasn't saying that qualified women can't teach men.
Let's go deeper! The details and even the study guides are available to you in the book Back to Eden - 1 Timothy 2:8-3:16 by Bruce C. E. Fleming.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where w...
This complementarian pastor found the other side had a stronger case! A Terran Williams classic replay on The Eden Podcast
They asked him to review the strong points for their church's complementarian conviction. When Pastor Terran Williams did so he was surprised to find the other side had the stronger case! We learn this part of this winsome South Africa pastor's story as well as startling facts of his personal history on this classic replay episode on The Eden Podcast. This is just one of three episodes on Terran Williams. Make sure to find those episodes as well.
He is the author of the book: How God Sees Women, the end of patriarchy.Â
 The Tr...
Paul's Hallelujah Chorus in Eph 5.22-6.9 and why we need to see the parts!
We and He are ONE! This is the teaching in the key verse of Ephesians 5:32.Â
WE MUST SEE THE PATTERNS IN PAUL"S USE OF THE PROPHETIC RHETORICAL TEMPLATE. THEN WE SEE PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT UNITY IN THE JOINT-BODY WITH CHRIST. Then, we see Paul's teaching on Christian spouses discipling one another!Â
Did Paul really have that many PATTERNS in the passage from Ephesians 5:22-6:9? Oh yes! Those who have missed these patterns act like the blind men who had a hard time describing an elephant. The blind men saw the parts: a wall, a...
Horizontal not vertical submission in Christian relationships - Eph 5.22-6.9
“We and He are one!” That is Paul's message in this beautiful but misunderstood passage in Ephesians 5:22-6:9. The center of Paul's message is 5:32 yet people get off track looking for subordination of wives in the home. Here we focus on the patterns and implications of Paul's message in the Greek text of this famous passage.
We see three three verse numbers in Ephesians 5:19-21 but this is actually a parallelism of four parts: A and A prime are in 19a and 21. B and B prime are in 19b and 20. WE MUST TAKE THE TWO A SECTIONS TOGE...
Don't clip off the ends of the key passages. This leads to CONFUSION!
Don't clip off the ends of the KEY Passages. See our YouTube Channel for the diagrams referred to in this episode.  The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women an...
Dr. Jennifer Holloran and her 2026 Medallion Award Presentation in Philadelphia!
The President and CEO of the American Bible Society is this year's recipient of the Tru316 Medallion Award! On this episode, Bruce C. E. Fleming introduces the Medallion Award presentation, followed by a mix of testimonials by ministry leaders from Wycliffe Bible Translators, Missionary Aviation Fellowship and more who honor Dr. Jennifer Holloran, followed by her own words of acceptance at the 2026 event.
You can see a video of the testimonials by these leaders on the Tru316 Foundation You Tube Channel. Here is a link: https://youtu.be/MfFBkBx3gQ4
Go Deeper. We met at...
Women in Ministry and Leadership by Ken Schenck
Wesleyan educator and author Dr. Ken Schenck on his book, "A Biblical Argument for Women in Ministry and Leadership."
Dr. Ken Schenck is an Asbury Theological Seminary graduate who did his New Testament Ph.D. under James D.G. Dunn at the University of Durham. He is author of more than 30 books and is an ordained minister in the Wesleyan Church. Dr. Schenck taught New Testament and Biblical languages at Indiana Wesleyan University for twenty-two years, where he also served as Dean for nine years. After two years at Houghton University as the Vice President for Planning...
WHO'S IN CHARGE? Author Christa McKirland from New Zealand! PART TWO
WHO'S IN CHARGE? PART TWO. We asked Dr. Christa L. McKirland who is Dean of Faculty and Lecturer in Systematic Theology at Carey Baptist College. Her books include "A Theology of Authority: Rethinking Leadership in the Church" (2025) and "God's Provision, Humanity's Need: The Gift of our Dependence" (2022). Born in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, she currently lives in Aotearoa, New Zealand with her husband, Matthew, and their two children.Â
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “...
WHO'S IN CHARGE? Author Christa McKirland from New Zealand! PART ONE
WHO'S IN CHARGE? PART ONE. We asked Dr. Christa L. McKirland who is Dean of Faculty and Lecturer in Systematic Theology at Carey Baptist College. Her books include "A Theology of Authority: Rethinking Leadership in the Church" (2025) and "God's Provision, Humanity's Need: The Gift of our Dependence" (2022). Born in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, she currently lives in Aotearoa, New Zealand with her husband, Matthew, and their two children.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that...
In Africa when our kids and I shared the good news on Eden!
BACK in 2004. I took our kids back to Africa in 2004. Here's what happened. Due to a minor plane crash and having to make the trip overland, our kids went on into the Congo and I stayed behind with no plans for the week in the Central African Republic. THEN the invitations poured in! I happily taught many groups, pastors, deaconesses, school teachers, night watchmen and even high government officials! They were trilled at the positive news of Eden!
NOW in 2026! We have two special events coming up! YOU are invited to our Event at the HQ of t...
Pastor Heather from Wooddale Church talks about littles and bigs on this BONUS Episode from our new sister podcast!
Pastor Heather discovered that "Littles" make a big change when they hit a certain age. In her ministry at Wooddale Church with 12-15 year olds she has gained special insight about what "Littles" need as they become "Bigs." She and Bruce also talk about the new wave of micro schools and how to bring the schoolhouse into God's house with Eden Family Schoolhouses!
Go deeper? Here are two links: EdenSchoolhouse.com and https://www.myktis.com/community-partners/eden-family-schoolhouse/
Here is Heather's sermon that Dr. Joy and Bruce heard her preach from the platform at Wooddale...
Sneak Peak at our NEW Sister Podcast - the Time4Littles Podcast!
BONUS Here is the first episode of our NEW sister podcast, Time4Littles. We want to teach "the positive insights of Eden" to our youngest generation. The Time4Littles Podcast is the newest way to do so! John Newton our first guest is a lifelong teacher of kids little and big. He was founding Administrator of Southwest Christian High School and later founded a K-12 School in Ljubljana, Slovenia!
Bruce and John explore all the ways to bring up the next generation. We introduce plans for our new Christian micro schools called Eden Family Schoolhouses! More here...
Untangling 1 Timothy 2:8-12 from Book 3 - "Back to Eden"
THE MOST MISUSED VERSE ON WOMEN IN MINISTRY is 1 Timothy 2:12. We untagle the meaning in this episode of The Eden Podcast! We ask and answer just WHO were the men and women of 1 Timothy 2:8 and 9-15?? 1 Timothy 3:1 gives the clue! These were the wayward men and women overseers Timothy was left in Ephesus to correct.
There is so much error-filled teaching on these verses to be set aside. Here we use the patterns of the passage to unlock the positive meaning of these verses for men and women who aspire to oversight in the church. From Book 3...
In 1 Corinthians Paul fought against restrictions on women! Readings from the Eden Book Series on 1 Corinthians 11 and 14.
Don't miss verse 2 when you study 1 Corinthians 11. Paul praises the believers for following what he had taught them. Only from verse 17 on does he criticize them regarding a different topic.Â
What did Paul teach about women in church? He said they were in charge of their own heads and should keep practicing what he had taught them.
In 1 Corinthians 11 and 14 Paul was for participation by women! Bruce reads and comments on Chapter 1 of his Book 4 in the Eden Book Series entitled "Because of Eden, 1 Cor 11, 14 and 1 Peter 3, Quotations Refuted and Witnessing Spouses."
 Th...
1 Timothy is FOR women in ministry! Book 3 in The Eden Book Series.
1 Timothy is FOR women in ministry not against them! The author reads and comments on Chapter 1 of Book 3 in The Eden Book Series entitled "Back to Eden, 1 Timothy 2:8-3:16, Corrected and Restored by Jesus the Faithful Word."
Did you know?Â
Paul writes about three groups that corresponded to his three sins (blasphemers, persecutors and disrupters). The third group was made up of the wayward men and women overseers Timothy had been assigned to correct.1 Timothy 2:12 is only the second half of the Greek sentence that starts in verses 11. And it is the subordinate part.1 Timothy 3:1 is t...Ephesians 5 is NOT about wifely submission, from Book 2 in The Eden Book Series!
People are missing the context of Ephesians 5:22! In his book, "Beyond Eden - Ephesians 5:15-6:9, The Great Mystery Revealed: Mutually Submitting in Christ," author and scholar Bruce C. E. Fleming points out MAJOR errors that  most people are making. In this episode he reads from Chapter One in Book Two of The Eden Book Series, which is available in softcover, as a Kindle eBook and on Audible.
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misunderstood imagerythe pattern of foursthe jump, jump, high jump prophetic templatethe Great Mysteryand much more that localizes the meaning of Paul's instructions on reciprocating horizontal s...
Genesis 3:16 has been polluted but cleanup is possible!
With new insights added, author Bruce C. E. Fleming rereads chapter 1 of "The Book of Eden on Genesis 2-3." A river caught on fire?? Yes, because of pollution flowing on top of it. A verse on fire? Yes, because of mistranslation covering over the Hebrew words underlying Genesis 3:16. Discover the great words of this verse and its place in the passage on the Garden of Eden. Importantly, we learn that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way!Â
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Go tell IT on the mountain! Stories from dozens of listeners!
Stories from listeners are featured on this episode of The Eden Podcast! From El Paso, Texas to Nairobi, Kenya and more! "Life changing" are the words frequently used for the books in The Eden Book Series and the for the Tru School Workshops which are based on the teaching material from Seasons 1-4 of The Eden Podcast.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in...
Christmas in Eden?? Oh yes!!
Not only 'Mary did you know?' but 'Eve did you know?' And THEY DID! The promise of the Savior was first made in the Garden of Eden. Eve and her daughter Mary both believed the promise made by God back in the Beginning. It should deepen our awe at this season of the year!Â
Merry Christmas to you and yours from Joy and Bruce and the entire Tru316 Family!
To celebrate we have marked down all four volumes in The Eden Book Series by 33%! Here is a link to the first one: https://a...
Which translation is better on Genesis 3:16? Dr. Joy Fleming answers!
The King James Version (KJV) got Genesis 3:16 right in 1611. The Revised Standard Version (RSV) got it wrong in 1952 by inserting what looked like a curse on Eve that God never placed on her in the Hebrew text back in the beginning.
In her new article for the scholarly journal Priscilla Papers, Joy Fleming, PhD, PsyD, points out the word patterns that the RSV (and the NIV, the NLT, the ESV and others) totally missed. Taking them into account helps us "true" the verse!
On this audio episode (the script and the footnotes are available on...
Reformed Pastor Ryan Kron on The Eden Podcast
Pastor Ryan loves the Bible and winter sports in snowy Minnesota! Here is our interview with cross country skier and father on 6 kids as he tells us about nurturing the members of his local church, Emmaus Road Reformed Church in Edina, Minnesota.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become...
The Genesis 3 Sermon - The Attack and the Aftermath in Eden! by Bruce C. E. Fleming
EARLY RELEASE! How have we missed what happened in Eden? It happens when we start by wrongly thinking Genesis 3 is about The Fall when it really is about The Attack and The Aftermath! Based on decades of research by Dr. Joy Fleming here is a sample sermon, that can also be used as a lesson plan, on WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN EDEN BACK IN THE BEGINNING!
What you will find here is (1) the distinction between the first-degree and the second-degree eater at the tree, (2) the differences God made in responding to these different levels of offense...
Della Olson Book, Part 4. Further involvement by women leaders in the Free Church USA.
Part 4 from Della Olson's book! No proof?? Not so! Author and historian Della Olson made a survey of the documentation of women in ministry in the Evangelical Free Church especially in the United States. Her friend and neighbor, Dr. Joy Fleming, reads final excerpts of her book for Part 4 of Della's book on The Eden Podcast.Â
Some have tried to deny women from leadership and public ministry in the Free Churches. This historic book from 1977 is available for download here: https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/tiu_efcalit/id/28312
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Della Olson Book, Part 3. Oh yes! Free Church Women Ministered in the U.S.
Free Church women in the United States DID lead in ministry. This is the focus on Part 3 of Della Olson's book, "A Woman of Her Times - Stories of women who dared to place obedience to the commands of Christ above submission to the traditions of men," with a forward by Ruth Kantzer. Dr. Joy Fleming reads from this book by the First Lady of the Free Church who was her friend and neighbor.
Della and her husband, Dr. Arnold T. Olson, President of the EFCA from 1951 to 1976 personally encouraged women to pursue public ministry.
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PREQUEL Bonus Episode with Josh Ratliff. Called to mutual ministry!
On this Prequel Bonus Episode learn the steps to mutual ministry taken by Wesleyan Pastor Josh Ratliff
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women an...
Wesleyan pastor opened to the idea of women in ministry | Rev. Josh Ratliff
A woman bishop he respected ordained him to the ministry. Why did he change his mind?
Rev. Josh Ratliff is Lead Pastor of Crosspoint Church in Lynchburg, VA. A graduate of Liberty University and Asbury Theological Seminary, he is passionate about preaching the truth of Scripture, in context, and representing the character of God with precision. He's married to Valerie, his wife of 15 years, and they have three children. Josh is an ordained minister in The Wesleyan Church.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. F...
Free Church Women in Ministry in the USA? Della Olson, Part 3
Did Evangelical Free Church women lead in ministry in the United States? Yes. Yet, some leaders in the EFCA have tried to explain this away.Â
Here are the details of the matter from researcher and historian Della Olson, wife of the first president of the EFCA for many decades, Arnold T. Olson, who supported his wife's research and writing and co-published with her this book - A Woman of Her Times. Stories of women who dared to place obedience to the commands of Christ above submission to the traditions of men. This extremely rare book is read f...
Naghmeh Panahi, PART 2! No more shame for women house church pastors!
Hindered by shame caused by incorrect teaching Naghmeh Panahi now freeely serves the underground churches. Hear how this came about and much more in PART TWO of our conversation on The Eden Podcast.Â
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes...
Why are women leading underground house churches?? | Naghmeh Panahi on The Eden Podcast | S17Ep16 Part One!
Learn why Naghmeh Panahi  says "I think we have misunderstood Genesis" and "Because we are honoring women in the house churches of Iran is one of the reasons God is blessing so much." This is Part One of our remarkable interview with underground house church leader Nagmeh Panahi.Â
Why did Naghmeh feel ashamed when she saw how God raised up women to lead the underground house churches during the revival in the land of her birth? Bruce and Naghmeh talk about this and the life changing insights from Eden that open doors for all to minister using Go...
WHO preached this summer to thousands in Sweden?? - Part 2 with Dr. Göran Janzon
We asked Dr. Göran Janzon about the TEN THOUSAND SWEDISH CHRISTIANS who attended the Summer Celebration this year at TORP. He began by recounting the ministry of Nelly Hall and the female Evangelists of the Swedish Evangelical Free Mission - how they were blessed by God in the late 1800's and their impact on the 21st Century churches in Sweden and beyond.
 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve...
Women in Ministry in Sweden and Central Africa - Dr. Göran Janzon Part 1!
Should a pastor's spouse know how to read and write?? "Of Course!" came his answer. Swedish Church Historian and Missiologist Dr. Göran Janzon recounts the development of the training of women and men in ministry on two continents. He was instrumental in pioneering changes in training programs both in Sweden and in the Central African Republic.
This is Part 1 of our extensive interview with Dr. Janzon. Did you know? He left Sweden to enroll in a new evangelical theological seminary outside of Paris? Yes at Vaux-sur-Seine. More of that school here: https://flte.fr/Â
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“Good News” and “Gone Askew”
Finding Jesus in the Garden of Eden? Yes! Naming errors by those whose views have gone askew? Yes! Let's look at the Gospel in the Garden. Then, lets see where many have gone askew in their view of New Testament passages on women and men because their view of Genesis 3:16 was askew too.
Go Deeper? We invite you to get a copy (audiobook on Audible, hard copy or eBook at Amazon) of The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming. You can also sign up for our Tru School Workshops on the four key...