How Long Gone

Chris Wallace is an avid traveler, writer, photographer, and old friend of CB's, and has a new quarterly out now. We chat with him on his way to Mexico about reflexively pinching and zooming a physical photograph, attending the W Youth Magazine dinner at Thai Diner, CB's report from sitting courtside at the Knicks game, Chris’ late father “coming out” and developing a relationship with him afterward, the two Chrises comparing how many days a year they’re away and what such travel junkies are “running away” from, not having an address or health care and what city he plans to par...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is in Austin, TX. We chat about the discovery of undershirts, Sacha Baron Cohen's unwanted extreme press push, Jason sitting next to Joe Rogan at the Texas-Ole Miss game, Cybertaxis taking over Austin, drinking all your favorite alcohols in one night, Jason possibly having grown an inch, the benefits of Styrofoam, JAY-Z ticket sales, and Chris preparing to see a Dashboard Confessional matinee followed by courtside seats at the Knicks game.

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Kings of Leon are a band from Tennessee. Their new album, O My Beloved, is out soon. We chat with Jared from his home about canned pumpkin, Jason seeking advice on how to approach the college football game he's attending in Texas this weekend, Chris going to buzzy new restaurant Straker's, how to emotionally hedge one's bets with sports, light beer, his unique sleeping situation on hotel floors as a child, having to cancel a show because of bird poop, how opening for U2 taught them to make more anthemic tunes, his mom tailoring his skinny jeans, his job...

Twisted Teens are a band from New Orleans. Their new record, The Holy Cross Tigers, is out soon on Sub Pop. We chat with Caspian from his home about the Victoria’s Secret show, bringing a Bible to court, living off-grid in a yurt, Home Depot scams, riding freight trains and trimming flower, his extensive knowledge of California native plants, why everyone he knew left for New Orleans or Minnesota, who should play the Unabomber in the inevitable biopic, how he started writing pop songs once he realized how hard it was, the Tao of Rick Rubin, how he go...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris attending his twin nieces’ fútbol match, Baby Gronk, Bella Hadid working out in the Alo sauna, Jake Shane being ready to learn about Madonna, how to sneak into the W Youth Magazine party at the Saddle Ranch in Hollywood, power-washing videos between sets at the gym, the Elizabeth Holmes doc You Can See Everything opening to much fanfare, HBO’s Girls returning for a limited series, Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley linking up, Chris possibly having the best lemon tart...

Sam Hine, formerly at GQ and now the senior men’s style editor at New York Magazine, returns to chat with us from his office about heather gray sweatpants, a pill popper on Jason's flight home from Mexico, the power of Jeremy Allen White's new haircut, a recent meal at New York restaurant Ha's Đặc Biệt, his recent cover story featuring a bathhouse full of it-men, photographer Ryan McGinley's sleep schedule, sharing a suitcase with your spouse, the Timeshifter app for our world travelers, his upcoming wedding plans, AI vows, the F&B program at his new offices, a bean...

Quil Lemons is a Philadelphia-based photographer, currently in New York. His new book, Quiladelphia, is out soon from IDEA Books. We chat with him from his home in New York about more Shane Gillis monologue discourse, digital creator Druski set to host SNL himself, Hillary Clinton's new podcast, Selma Blair arrested for biting people, blicky talk and diamond testers, the globalization of regional Black culture, Soulja Boy as a sex symbol and a presidential candidate, Stone Mountain, Georgia, seventh-grade sex ed, rapper Birdman's kisses, his clockability, if Bill Gates would have let Black people have the internet knowing what...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Charleston, SC, and Jason is in Mexico City. We chat about TJ's taco tours, absorbing your partner's tastes and behaviors, the dark evidence of a Hershey's Kiss wrapper, a blackened grouper Caesar salad, Mexicans shifting away from the tortilla chip and toward the potato, Dua Lipa eating an American-style hot dog, Kelly Clarkson's Twitter attack on a puzzle store in Brooklyn, Shane Gillis bombing his SNL monologue, but we dissect his bit about saying hi to people on a hike, and a recent New Yorker piece about comedy and podcasting that features us...

Rickie De Sole is the fashion editor at Air Mail, formerly at Vogue, Prada, and more. She just got back home to L.A. from Milan and Paris to chat with us about Jason hitting the EsDeeKid show the night before, third-party In-N-Out delivery, what color the Rimowa is and traveling with jewelry, an influx of Londoners in Milan, competitive sailing, stealing phones at the Brentwood Country Mart, Chris not being able to find a pair of shoes for his wife anywhere, using alcohol to sell clothes, legendary Prada sample sales, a Dries Van Noten necklace-belt, and the benefits...

Kurt Vile is a musician from Philadelphia. His great new record, Philadelphia’s been good to me, is out now. He returns to the pod from his home in Philadelphia to chat with us about Chris hitting Keith McNally’s son’s restaurant called Faux, ice cream, playing banjo at the punk club, Paul Revere’s Greek-style pizza, crying a bit after watching Beach House open for the Strokes, quantized drums and staying “off grid,” Bob Dylan being an alien, his favorite songs of the year so far, his thoughts on phone-free concerts, hangin’ out in the garage, guys only crying wh...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in London, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about trouble at ComplexCon in Los Angeles, all the new clothing brands we don’t know, hoodies in triple-digit heat, Chris having to play a game at a small dinner party, Jason planning to see EsDeeKid next week, we celebrate Tinashe’s new album in an uplifting way, as well as her “2 On” remix featuring Drake and OB O’Brien, Diddy being forced to solicit male masseuses behind bars, Jason’s Apple iPhone shoulder strap, personal trainer slash cinematographers, Turnstile on SNL, and Queens of th...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in London, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about trouble at ComplexCon in Los Angeles, all the new clothing brands we don’t know, hoodies in triple-digit heat, Chris having to play a game at a small dinner party, Jason planning to see EsDeeKid next week, we celebrate Tinashe’s new album in an uplifting way, as well as her “2 On” remix featuring Drake and OB O’Brien, Diddy being forced to solicit male masseuses behind bars, Jason’s Apple iPhone shoulder strap, personal trainer slash cinematographers, Turnstile on SNL, and Queens of th...

Dylan Jones is a journalist and author. He edited GQ in the UK from 1999 to 2021, as well as i-D and Arena. He’s written several books, and his newest, Table Hopping, is out in time for Christmas. We chat with him from his home in London about Parisian chocolat, the Outkast Waffle House collaboration, how long he waits to try a new restaurant after it opens, F&B options at the Hollywood Bowl, why one shouldn’t remark on the food at a “meetings” restaurant, the hierarchy of seating at a horseshoe-style bar, what he was wearing in 1987, how many mem...

Dylan Jones is a journalist and author. He edited GQ in the UK from 1999 to 2021, as well as i-D and Arena. He’s written several books, and his newest, Table Hopping, is out in time for Christmas. We chat with him from his home in London about Parisian chocolat, the Outkast Waffle House collaboration, how long he waits to try a new restaurant after it opens, F&B options at the Hollywood Bowl, why one shouldn’t remark on the food at a “meetings” restaurant, the hierarchy of seating at a horseshoe-style bar, what he was wearing in 1987, how many mem...

Norma Kamali is a fashion designer from New York. Her book, I Am Invincible, is out now in paperback. We chat with her from her studio about peanut butter sparkling water and piss-filled vinyl, dating Ian Schrager during Studio 54, the rise of fitness coinciding with the fall of dancing, group sweating and pheromones, dating the people you deserve to date, the evolution of activewear and natural fabrics, being anti-dry cleaning, candy from Pakistan, her thoughts on Galliano and the Met Gala, how old she wants to live to, and never retiring being the key to life.

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Norma Kamali is a fashion designer from New York. Her book, I Am Invincible, is out now in paperback. We chat with her from her studio about peanut butter sparkling water and piss-filled vinyl, dating Ian Schrager during Studio 54, the rise of fitness coinciding with the fall of dancing, group sweating and pheromones, dating the people you deserve to date, the evolution of activewear and natural fabrics, being anti-dry cleaning, candy from Pakistan, her thoughts on Galliano and the Met Gala, how old she wants to live to, and never retiring being the key to life.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris was in the Bay Area, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about a missing cat in the Hollywood Hills, approaching the iced coffee debate from all angles, hard-boiled eggs in the plastic bag, messages you don’t need to respond to, Chris was up all night coding at the Four Seasons, loving the Soulwax show, and going to the Meta event, Zuck and Wang’s outfit choices, Jimmy Fallon plugging the new Kith coffee table book, the Folsom Street Fair, and Jason eating at luxe new L.A. sports bar Thickman’s Tavern...

One-on-one pod today: Chris was in the Bay Area, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about a missing cat in the Hollywood Hills, approaching the iced coffee debate from all angles, hard-boiled eggs in the plastic bag, messages you don’t need to respond to, Chris was up all night coding at the Four Seasons, loving the Soulwax show, and going to the Meta event, Zuck and Wang’s outfit choices, Jimmy Fallon plugging the new Kith coffee table book, the Folsom Street Fair, and Jason eating at luxe new L.A. sports bar Thickman’s Tavern...

Grace Ives is a musician from New York. See her on tour this year, opening for both Gracie Abrams and Olivia Rodrigo. Her newest record, Girlfriend, is out now. We chat about the “FAHH” sound effect, how she likes to struggle musically, RhymeZone.com, learning how to judge without being judgmental, Fiona Apple, how every year we get new words to use, how people in L.A. have “turtle shells,” her first and second records both getting an 8.4 on Pitchfork, getting a rash on her forehead, having a Toyota Corolla on her vision board, her boyfriend, Animal Collective, and being on...

Grace Ives is a musician from New York. See her on tour this year, opening for both Gracie Abrams and Olivia Rodrigo. Her newest record, Girlfriend, is out now. We chat about the “FAHH” sound effect, how she likes to struggle musically, RhymeZone.com, learning how to judge without being judgmental, Fiona Apple, how every year we get new words to use, how people in L.A. have “turtle shells,” her first and second records both getting an 8.4 on Pitchfork, getting a rash on her forehead, having a Toyota Corolla on her vision board, her boyfriend, Animal Collective, and being on...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Palo Alto, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris’ time off campus, a local lemonade stand that accepts digital tips, Jason driving Chris around in his car for the first time in a while, some celebrity sightings at the Chateau, what’s up with Don Toliver? Is Skims a clothing company or Kardashian merch? Jason in the new J.Crew Barn Jacket campaign with Ryan Beatty and Scottie Pippen, we show love to Stephen Dorff, Chris explores the Jo Koy Netflix special, millennial music supervision continuing with HBO’s Youth...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Palo Alto, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris’ time off campus, a local lemonade stand that accepts digital tips, Jason driving Chris around in his car for the first time in a while, some celebrity sightings at the Chateau, what’s up with Don Toliver? Is Skims a clothing company or Kardashian merch? Jason in the new J.Crew Barn Jacket campaign with Ryan Beatty and Scottie Pippen, we show love to Stephen Dorff, Chris explores the Jo Koy Netflix special, millennial music supervision continuing with HBO’s Youth...

One-on-one pod today, recorded live and uncut from Chris’ room at the Chateau Marmont. We chat about stairs vs. steps, a celebrity observation on the flight from New York, Erewhon reducing the size of its cake slices, the Hyrox diarrhea conundrum, Deion Sanders for Depends, kratom, Chris’ inability to sit still at the ballet, millennial music supervisors, Ed Sheeran’s teleprompter apology, Carrot Top’s attempted suicide, not supporting Dakota and MGK dating, Jason DJing Charli’s afterparty last week, Chris getting the new iPhone, and a little recap of our experience at the Goneies, our inaugural awards show.

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One-on-one pod today, recorded live and uncut from Chris’ room at the Chateau Marmont. We chat about stairs vs. steps, a celebrity observation on the flight from New York, Erewhon reducing the size of its cake slices, the Hyrox diarrhea conundrum, Deion Sanders for Depends, kratom, Chris’ inability to sit still at the ballet, millennial music supervisors, Ed Sheeran’s teleprompter apology, Carrot Top’s attempted suicide, not supporting Dakota and MGK dating, Jason DJing Charli’s afterparty last week, Chris getting the new iPhone, and a little recap of our experience at the Goneies, our inaugural awards show.

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James Austin Johnson is a comedian on SNL. His debut special, He’ll Yeah, is out now. We chat about how the Goneies, our inaugural awards show in New York, went on Tuesday, James' secret nightcaps around 30 Rock, indie folk roots Americana music, city living in the South and the real rural parts of America, James in defense of the small truck, hybrid strains on the walkabout, how ADD medication affects alcohol use, how Bob Dylan affected male/female standards of fashion for performers, his own dark days living in Glendale, and we close with 10 minutes on Bob Dylan.

James Austin Johnson is a comedian on SNL. His debut special, He’ll Yeah, is out now. We chat about how the Goneies, our inaugural awards show in New York, went on Tuesday, James' secret nightcaps around 30 Rock, indie folk roots Americana music, city living in the South and the real rural parts of America, James in defense of the small truck, hybrid strains on the walkabout, how ADD medication affects alcohol use, how Bob Dylan affected male/female standards of fashion for performers, his own dark days living in Glendale, and we close with 10 minutes on Bob Dylan.

Pusha T is a rapper from Virginia Beach. His new coffee company, Grindin, in partnership with Pharrell, is out now. We chat with him from New York City about getting jewelry stolen from his hotel in Las Vegas and workshopping his new chain story for the next record, how to evolve and scale your live show without becoming an un-gangsta K-pop style production, what Pyrex means to us as an energy, Pharrell and Pusha text each other every morning at 5 a.m., how not to fumble it when you “hit a vein,” creatively speaking, Push going to Chris Brown’s “Bre...

Pusha T is a rapper from Virginia Beach. His new coffee company, Grindin, in partnership with Pharrell, is out now. We chat with him from New York City about getting jewelry stolen from his hotel in Las Vegas and workshopping his new chain story for the next record, how to evolve and scale your live show without becoming an un-gangsta K-pop style production, what Pyrex means to us as an energy, Pharrell and Pusha text each other every morning at 5 a.m., how not to fumble it when you “hit a vein,” creatively speaking, Push going to Chris Brown’s “Bre...

One-on-one pod today, recorded live and uncut from the Nine Orchard Hotel. We chat about PETA protesters getting taken down at the COS show, going freestyle at the gym, the Obama playlist as a genre and predatory merch, Chris seeing a new kind of guy at the gym, friend of the show Ben Shelton getting taken down in the U.S. Open final, the future of Kanye and the Jenners, pondering who kracked Kris, international YouTube TV usage, the dark cloud currently over competitive tennis, and Kai Cenat’s new clothing line debut.

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One-on-one pod today, recorded live and uncut from the Nine Orchard Hotel. We chat about PETA protesters getting taken down at the COS show, going freestyle at the gym, the Obama playlist as a genre and predatory merch, Chris seeing a new kind of guy at the gym, friend of the show Ben Shelton getting taken down in the U.S. Open final, the future of Kanye and the Jenners, pondering who kracked Kris, international YouTube TV usage, the dark cloud currently over competitive tennis, and Kai Cenat’s new clothing line debut.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris and Jason are both in New York. We chat about Jason’s hellish travel day on the Owen Thiele x Andrew Garfield Delta flight to JFK, Christmas-style enchiladas in Albuquerque, Chris makes a meat-free confession, the new foldable iPhone and the Apple Watch “live rewind” feature, our plans for Fashion Week, our dress code for the Goneies, Chris wants to eat more apples, and we show love to Cafe Mogador.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris and Jason are both in New York. We chat about Jason’s hellish travel day on the Owen Thiele x Andrew Garfield Delta flight to JFK, Christmas-style enchiladas in Albuquerque, Chris makes a meat-free confession, the new foldable iPhone and the Apple Watch “live rewind” feature, our plans for Fashion Week, our dress code for the Goneies, Chris wants to eat more apples, and we show love to Cafe Mogador.

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Hovvdy is a band from Austin, Texas, currently in Nashville. Their new record, Big World, is out now on Arts & Crafts. We chat about Hailey and Justin’s W Youth magazine cover, fashion trends at the beach, the bird feeder discourse continues, when Flock cameras become the new Getty Images, getting roughed up by security at a Dr. Dog show, Charlie’s parents starting him out with a snare, opening for Wilco, Stella Lefty continues to interpolate, and Chris’ reality show idea.

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Hovvdy is a band from Austin, Texas, currently in Nashville. Their new record, Big World, is out now on Arts & Crafts. We chat about Hailey and Justin’s W Youth magazine cover, fashion trends at the beach, the bird feeder discourse continues, when Flock cameras become the new Getty Images, getting roughed up by security at a Dr. Dog show, Charlie’s parents starting him out with a snare, opening for Wilco, Stella Lefty continues to interpolate, and Chris’ reality show idea.

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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about finding an N95 mask in an old pocket, Jason's thirst for milk deepening, Chris going to the U.S. Open of tennis, Bethenny Frankel at Burning Man, Kanye West continuing to quietly pack stadiums, the Serena Williams reunion tour putters out, Chris' birthday present for Jason, Dries Van Noten hand soap, Chris discovering a new restaurant app, Phoebe Bridgers and the Gallagher brothers stun in Venice, the Wheel of Fortune announcer caught browsing on the plane, getting caught using a Flock...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about finding an N95 mask in an old pocket, Jason's thirst for milk deepening, Chris going to the U.S. Open of tennis, Bethenny Frankel at Burning Man, Kanye West continuing to quietly pack stadiums, the Serena Williams reunion tour putters out, Chris' birthday present for Jason, Dries Van Noten hand soap, Chris discovering a new restaurant app, Phoebe Bridgers and the Gallagher brothers stun in Venice, the Wheel of Fortune announcer caught browsing on the plane, getting caught using a Flock...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is back home in L.A. We chat about influencers ruining the U.S. Open of tennis, reverse-engineering Soho House, Chris being bullish on Ohio, stick season not coming soon enough, what it must feel like when flight attendants finally memorize their lines, Sarah McLachlan’s beauty and the odd Rolling Stone digital cover, the even odder Lollapalooza Mumbai poster, the pros and cons of having 11 people in your musical act, I Love Boosters, Jason never getting that Irish spice bag, and nature taking over Jason’s home in his...

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is back home in L.A. We chat about influencers ruining the U.S. Open of tennis, reverse-engineering Soho House, Chris being bullish on Ohio, stick season not coming soon enough, what it must feel like when flight attendants finally memorize their lines, Sarah McLachlan’s beauty and the odd Rolling Stone digital cover, the even odder Lollapalooza Mumbai poster, the pros and cons of having 11 people in your musical act, I Love Boosters, Jason never getting that Irish spice bag, and nature taking over Jason’s home in his...

Kate Young is a celebrity stylist living in New York. We chat with her from her office about Jason’s time in Dublin, the Bill Simmons A.I. situation, sending her viola-playing son to CalArts to study experimental pop and her other son’s graffiti and opium-style clothing interests, advancements in Chinese luxury clothing duplication, the upper arms of Madonna, Jennifer Aniston, and Sarah Jessica Parker, what she watches on the plane, the reality TV offers she’s received over the years, the salad days of celebrity brand deals, when clients send her A.I. images of clothing that doesn’...

Kate Young is a celebrity stylist living in New York. We chat with her from her office about Jason’s time in Dublin, the Bill Simmons A.I. situation, sending her viola-playing son to CalArts to study experimental pop and her other son’s graffiti and opium-style clothing interests, advancements in Chinese luxury clothing duplication, the upper arms of Madonna, Jennifer Aniston, and Sarah Jessica Parker, what she watches on the plane, the reality TV offers she’s received over the years, the salad days of celebrity brand deals, when clients send her A.I. images of clothing that doesn’...