How Long Gone
How Long Gone is a bi-coastal elite podcast from old friends and podcast professionals, Chris Black and Jason Stewart. CB and TJ deliver their takes on pop culture, fashion, music, and more. With three new episodes a week, you've got more than enough content to soak up.
971. - Tyrell Hampton
Tyrell Hampton is a very popular photographer, splitting his time between New York and L.A. His new book, Lastcall, is out now. We chat with Tyrell about Tinashe’s "crashout," suitcase travel compartments, the Chrome Hearts fidget spinner, wanting to be a backup dancer for Tate McRae, what would happen if Lil Mama came out at JAY-Z’s Yankee Stadium show, his markers for a New York life well lived, his new L.A. home, growing up in Philly, being a Häagen-Dazs girl, airport trade, getting his first car, asking for our help picking out a look for a...
970. - Muna
MUNA’s new record, Dancing on the Wall, is out now. We chat with Naomi McPherson, one-third of the band, from their home in Los Angeles about rappers wearing Vuori and Alo, measuring bed size in hotels, unnecessary piercings, growing up punk in San Diego and getting into USC, Obama-era optimism, our mutual love of chopped and screwed music, their workout flow, being a gourmand, the diarrhea-producing produce, the Maddy’s Secret dance studio scene, calling peptides “peppers,” and MUNA’s recent appearance in Playboy.
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969. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in London, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris watching the football at a gastropub, Jude Bellingham’s body, Chris going to Wimbeldon and Fabric, the legendary London nightclub, closeted congressman Lindsey Graham passing on mysteriously, whether Blue Ivy “Queer Eye’d” her father for his recent Yankee Stadium shows, Pusha T being spotted flying commercial, wondering who likes Yoko Ono, advancements in gangster attire, outdoor shaving, a surprising story involving our friend’s dog psychic, scallion pancakes as a crudo vessel, and a deep dive into the Hydration Break, brought to...
968. - Derek Blasberg
Derek Blasberg is our man on the street. He’s quick, he busts our balls, and his knowledge of fashion precedes him. Fast + Louche, his new book of photography, is out now. We chat about comedians’ fascination with American history, Lena Dunham’s powers, how bad the new Louis C.K. Netflix special is, Derek explains couture fashion to us, climate-controlled closets and bathroom mini fridges, growing up in Missouri, Derek taking Chris to the most expensive lunch he’d ever been to, his time with Lagerfeld and André Leon Talley, his outlook on young people in fashion, our histories...
967. - Matthew Schnipper
New York-based writer Matthew Schnipper returns to the show. His much-praised new memoir, Rise Above, about the sudden death of his one-year-old son, Renzo, five years ago, is out soon. We chat about Chris arriving in London, Disney+’s The Shards, purging his death metal T-shirts, having a colostomy bag at age 14, the The Crow (1994) soundtrack, writing through the anger, Dua Lipa’s “Levitating,” Bladee’s lyricism, getting Bill Callahan to read his audiobook, Henry Rollins turning down an interview, and his wife discovering her love for F1.
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966. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Miami, and Jason is home in Glendale. We chat about when it’s not okay to have the game on your phone at dinner, the Britney Spears of Jackass, Limp Bizkit on the rise, Taylor Swift’s wedding, JW Anderson and Paul McCartney getting the call, Michael Rubin’s White Party, a visit to Joe’s Stone Crab, Jason’s theory about famous male celebrities with severe bruising, and some Gen Z / Gen Alpha comparisons.
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965. - Griffin Dunne
Griffin Dunne is an actor, director, producer, and memoirist. We chat with him from his home upstate about the Empire State Building Banksy-esque proposal, some Taylor Swift wedding predictions, the bachelor life, escaping L.A. at 18, why he has a surplus of steak right now, some great Joan Didion stories, his love of obituaries, Mamdani’s thermostat settings, learning about the Joan Didion Celine ad while in the Amazonian jungle, Jason predicting the return of female-only hotels, some drug stories, and Griffin hosting SNL in 1986.
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964. - Jon Kelly
Jon Kelly is the co-founder and editor-in-chief of the media company Puck. We chat with him from his office in New York about restaurants desperately needing more alcohol sales, Jason proposing a revamp of movie theater concessions, the suburbs being exotic to a native New Yorker, the need for Chief Taste Officers, whether Puck plans to enter the prediction market space, acquiring Air Mail, their former competition, the need to be camera-ready as a journalist, him reading what you think he reads, his history with the Knicks, when you train your agents to replace you, and we close on...
963. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta, and Jason is in Providence, R.I. We chat about Jason being in town to DJ a wedding the night before and breaking down his playlist, Kanye does 72K in Tampa, Drake’s quiet charity, Chris knowing the guy you call to "light up" New York City, public defecation at the Noah Kahan gig, the canned hard seltzer epidemic, Jason suggesting we sunset the watermelon radish, R.I.P. Chef Katsuya, Jason visits a local “Chris” type of gym, real men do not "sample flavors," the new Phoebe dropped, and our Fourth of Jul...
962. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about white chocolate clusters, the Kiki’s seizure and other restaurant gossip, the current state of dive bars, both of us cashing checks at the liquor store back in the day, Chris going to the Meta glasses mixer in Chelsea, and the interviewing of Meta employees, the heat waves in Paris and Cannes, Whoa Vicky’s renaissance, sundress season falling flat, Pharrell’s red wave, and Johnny Marr’s guitars going up for auction.
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961. - Matt Spicer
A cinema-heavy episode today with Matt Spicer, director of the now-cult indie Ingrid Goes West, and his newest film, Little Brother, on Netflix this weekend, with Jon Cena and Eric André. We chat with Matt about Cannes Lions, his Criterion ADU, being 30 days out from having his first kid, when acquiring “festival rights” goes wrong, the dark corners of Blu-rays, his wife, actor Sarah Ramos, things that take us out of films, Jason saw the Bourdain biopic, Netflix’s habit of putting up one billboard near the director’s house, and how we all have a friend who spends too much...
960. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Jason’s Amazon cart items, Chris trying a new coconut drink as well as a jellyfish salad, less being more with guacamole, Charli’s Rolling Stone cover party, heartthrobs and their fear of intimacy, the modern musician interview, Travis Kelce’s "pre-wedding" dinners, Jason forcing himself to enjoy sports as a means of getting ahead in business, it probably being a bad sign that people in New York are collecting garbage cans, and R.I.P. Tay Keith.
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959. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris and Jason are both in New York. We chat about the Knicks’ parade, O-Rod calling out her fans for smelling like diapers, the Maggie Rogers–RosalĂa New York Times writer situation, wanting Jason Sudeikis to write a memoir about dating Olivia Wilde, Chris proposing Family Feud, but for guys like us, The Original Kings of Comedy, lore larping and aura farming, creative people grasping for credit, gangsters referencing cartoons, and we pose a question involving dating in the Apple Watch space.
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958. - Eddie Huang
Eddie Huang is a writer, restaurateur, and producer. His new book, Come Undone, is out today. We chat with him about smoking in the city, Taylor Swift’s physical ascension, Jason trying Lenwich for the first time, which sports jersey to wear depending on the occasion, Eddie being early on Li-Ning shoes, Japanese football fans picking up garbage, the White House UFC event, the Burberry “baby shower” shirt, owning multiple Big Green Eggs, the similarities between Taiwanese and Jewish people, breaking up with his parents last year, and Eddie’s read on both of us.
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957. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is home from the Hamptons, and Jason is in L.A. We chat about $30 Sag Harbor bushels of berries, regional health food stores, Rick Ross being spotted flying commercial alone, we talk hoops, though we podded before the Knicks won in five, Morrissey posting a list of people he feels have wronged him, trouble at the Unwell Podcast Network, Kristin Cavallari’s new protein juice brand, when the Alternative Assets shop opens up across from Chanel, the rise of Loonen water, Keke Palmer and Sean from Hot Ones spotted on a date, Peloton cutting Hudson Wi...
956. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in the Hamptons, and Jason is home in L.A. after a trip to Utah. We chat about Benson Boone in the lace mini, visits to Mormon mainstays Ballerina Farm and Swig, the Korean corn dog, the Knicks’ epic comeback, Adam Friedland heads to The Ringer, how we were supposed to have Paige DeSorbo on today’s episode but she canceled, Justin Trudeau’s son being a horny little Canadian R&B singer, Chris currently pushing a BMW X5 M, when rich people name their homes after the city they’re in, which men can pull...
955. - Jeremy Sisto
Jeremy Sisto is an actor and musician known for his roles in Law & Order, Clueless, and Six Feet Under. We chat with Jeremy from his home in New York about Trump falling asleep at the Knicks game, various parks in Hollywood, joining a walking group despite not liking walking, pickup hoops, when he has to be mean to a kid on camera, “going method,” working with brands today compared to the ’90s, guns on set today compared to the ’90s, Jeremy being an investor in Cinespace, a club where Jason used to throw parties, the heyday of L.A. poker ga...
954. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in the Hamptons, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about TJ hosting the Q&A for Kareem’s new show, Keep the Meter Running, the night before, Sean Penn’s overall fury, whether male "snow bunnies" deserve a title of their own, our guide to being a cool celebrity parent, music festivals taking a wet beating this weekend, Dua Lipa weds in Palermo and that’s fine, whether Taylor’s MSG wedding announcement is a diversion, and why Dashboard Confessional should sing them down the aisle, Phoebe Bridgers announcing her front on phone...
953. - Shaad D’Souza
Our friend Shaad D’Souza returns to How Long Gone. He’s a great music writer who’s only gained steam since we last spoke. He’s turned his Instagram account into a text-based magazine of his own name, recently interviewing Charli XCX, Cameron Winter, and Audrey Hobert, to name a few.
We spoke in Chris’s hotel room, live and uncut, about a recent club-related injury, Dansko clogs, EDM > techno, the lack of gay indie frontmen compared to the ’80s and ’90s, why it’s undignified to take your shoes off in public, Phoebe at MSG approaching, the...
952. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today, recorded live and uncut from the hotel in London. We chat about Pride Month activations, Chris acknowledging the difficulty of rolling an overfilled tortilla, a Glendale donut shop scene report, Chris sitting next to a dark couple on the plane, America is getting stadium-mogged at the World Cup, our thoughts on grunting in the gym, Kendall and Elordi’s udon-based hard launch, and a deep dive into the rapid rise of the viral Kool-Aid pineapple treat.
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951. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris was in rural Canada, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about flying on the smallest plane of Chris’s life, RFK’s snake wrangling, Ella Langley’s tobacco-based medicine, Spencer Pratt’s Interview magazine story, Pete Thiel fleeing to Argentina, Katy Perry and Chief Keef unfortunately making a song together, the new Boards of Canada record, Armie Hammer’s new muscle-bear aesthetic, trouble with the lineup at Trump’s White House fiesta, and heatstroke and ball-girl shoving at Roland Garros.
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950. - Sam Fragoso
Our friend Sam Fragoso returns to How Long Gone. He hosts the popular podcast Talk Easy, which recently celebrated its 10th anniversary after being acquired by Obama’s Higher Ground.
We chat with him about cashew cream cheese, the White House UFC Freedom 250, Jason thinking Arlo Parks was four British guys, fitness wearable data monitoring, whether Sam gets recognized more with or without an N95 on, David Mamet walking out mid-pod, whether he’s ever interviewed a politician who felt like a real human being, what happens when Terry Gross asks him to fill in on Fresh Air...
949. - Kevin Morby
Our friend Kevin Morby returns to How Long Gone. His critically acclaimed new record, Little Wide Open, is out now.
We spoke with Kevin from his hotel room in Phoenix about life on the road in the desert, crushing his sleep score at the Holiday Inn Express, the game of “Odds,” getting sweaty on TikTok, just playing Kimmel and getting autotune put on his voice without being told, proposing a modern-day Traveling Wilburys with Morby as Dylan, which older bands make new fans and which don’t, his Pitchfork score starts with an eight, we update the famous...
948. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today, Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Instagram grids, buying MP3s, Trump lusting after Jaxson Dart’s creamy thighs, Taylor and Kelce pounding brews courtside at MSG, Spencer Pratt’s campaign developments, $tephen Colbert’s goodbye, Hasan Piker in the SSENSE Final Sale bins, wine-and-sardine-bar employee exploration, new things happening with Belle Burden’s Strangers, who Drake should be dating, and a podcaster proclaiming his week was ruined by three glasses of wine.
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947. - Ryan O'Connell
Our dear friend Ryan O’Connell returns to How Long Gone. His new book, Inspiration Porn, is out soon.
We chat with him about Chris accidentally pouring candle wax all over himself at the Gabriela Hearst x Paul Smith dinner at the Chateau, Reese Witherspoon’s umbrella holder, Colbert’s final days on TV, Katy, Ariana, and Gaga, whether Will Arnett and Amy Poehler will get back together, Ryan being a closeted Dax Shepard listener, how you’d "better laugh at all his jokes if you want this Delta One ticket," a review of his book launch the nigh...
946. - Kareem Rahma
Our friend Kareem Rahma from Subway Takes and his new show, Keep the Meter Running, returns to chat about Alcaraz and Sinner’s love triangle, Elordi skipping Cannes to hit Hawaii with Kendall, pitching a Sandlot remake starring Jake Shane, Middle Eastern real estate developments, his new country home in Connecticut, influencer furniture, never investing in yourself, a guy’s-trip Venmo request, his whirlwind press tour, how sometimes people pay to be on the show, weed-whacking, rebranding A.I., Drake’s club record rating quite high, and some deeper details of his new show.
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945. - Rostam
Our dear friend and talented musician Rostam returns. His great new record, American Stories, is out now.
We chat about Chris’s run-moshing in Arizona, hoodless hoodies, him befriending our wives, protecting his wrist strength as a multi-instrumentalist and his very heavy first guitar, queer coating > queer coding, our favorite Beatles, we make him defend Pleats Please, how something bad has to happen in the rock doc, his newfound gym gains, a Stir Crazy celeb sighting, and his potentially controversial merchandise.
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...944. - Brianna Capozzi
Brianna Capozzi is a photographer from New York. Her great new book, Womanizer, is out now on Rizzoli.
We chat about tube-based foods, blanket DM responses, spicy tuna ice cream cones, the Greek frozen yogurt wars, Oreo cookies and how they pertain to breastfeeding, being able to play any sport, her mother’s love of TJ Maxx and the like, being in the market for an orthopedic shoe, Addison Rae’s core strength, New Jersey tanning salons, Dua Lipa in the blonde wig, how nobody can pose like Pamela, and how having a kid brought her family toge...
943. - Hrishikesh Hirway
Hrishikesh Hirway is a musician from Los Angeles, best known for his masterful podcast Song Exploder. His new record, In the Last Hour of Light, is out now.
We chat with him about the new Salem x Supreme collection, Pitchfork giving Chris Brown’s new offering a devastating 1.3, our salad days of podcasting, competing with A.I. in both music and podcasts, when the emo band opens for the hardcore band, what happens when doctors and lawyers run in your family but you choose Spotify, exactly how many licks it takes to explode a song, whether songs wi...
942. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is in Atlanta for Mother’s Day, and Jason is in New York. We chat about Raising Cane’s Mother’s Day BOGO meal, the colorful Swatch x Audemars collab, what music to listen to on a 250-mile run, Jason DJing our friends Emily and David’s wedding the night before, and the ethnic dance music section of the night, British Taskrabbit auctions, don't bring your Moleskine to the Phoebe Bridgers underplay, pedal steel summer looms nigh, Charli’s Rock Music, despite everything Jake Shane keeps headin’ out to work, the young Bourdain biopic, Zara Larrson drop...
941. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is home in New York, and Jason is in London. We chat about a lunch at The River Café, TJ’s treetox, developing a new drink called the “Lennox Carbomb,” TFW you’re a metalhead and they wanna know what Beyoncé song is your fave, TJ going freeball for a bit, self-serve alcohol in Paris, a loud eater at a lovely London trattoria, Charvet suspenders, Billie Eilish flip-flopping, bisexual Hayden Panettiere, the fashion identities we attach ourselves to, and Substack entering the podcast space to explore unique founder journeys.
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940. - Met Gala recap with Lynette Nylander
Lynette Nylander, Harper’s BAZAAR Executive Digital Director, returns to chat with us about this year’s Met Gala. We discuss pornstar martinis, Lewis Hamilton letting his beard shine solo, Pete Davidson’s penis, the Bezos-Sanchez effect, Sabrina Carpenter’s Dior film-strip dress, the loser behavior of themes in general, Hunter Schafer stuns in Prada, Connor Storrie continuing to lap Lil Huddy in the blouse wars, why we’re seeing so many plastic molded chest pieces, Lynette asking why men love Dakota Johnson so much, Janelle Monáe in her e-waste bag, Chase Infiniti stunning in primary sequins, Troye’s Robert Mapp...
939. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is home in New York, and Jason is in Paris. We chat about Lime biking, Olivia Rodrigo and Aziz on SNL, hosting large files online, “Net 30” negotiations, iced coffee in biodegradable paper cups, L.A.’s “Forest Lawn Drive,” the similarity between Noah Kahan and Them Jeans, the Baby2Baby Gala, hotel room tours and “Italian-style” bathrooms, the Yung Lean choreo, RIP Spirit Airlines, and The Devil Wears Prada 2 is like, a cutting look at the dying media landscape, you guys.
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938. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: we originally had a guest booked who canceled, so ignore us introducing them in the intro. We chat about hotel room bathtubs, Chris returning to the Minneapolis airport chiropractor, 2 Chainz and his ten-year-old son podcasting about strip clubs, the Latinas vs. Snowbunnies pool party in Orange County, Erika Kirk dressing like sober Eminem, the Mount Rushmore of faerie musicians, non-binary instruments, clips and clipping, whether ads need trailers, whether tours need save-the-dates a year in advance, Zach Galifianakis’s gardening show, and the Lena Dunham book tour.
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937. - Paul W. Downs
Paul W. Downs is a creator, writer, and star of the award-winning television show Hacks. We chat with him from his home in Los Angeles about furries, protein-rich gravy, Picasso plates, the Cinnabon Mochalatta Chill, Paul Newman and Martha Stewart, the AMAs in Vegas this year, Hacks coming for magicians this season, shaving his body as a teen swimmer, buying Gucci at the outlet mall in New Jersey, celebrity selfies, the meme work of Joe Mande, working with your wife, and Paul workshops his sleep-guillotine system.
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936. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris is home from Italy, and Jason is in L.A. We chat about Jia Tolentino’s microlooting scandal, our Secretary of War's jaw and the packet is in D.C., staging our new White House ballroom, false flags and Scientology speed runs, Drake’s injections and ab dissolvers are settled and ready for the launch of Iceman, and what we need The Boy to deliver next month, the Stagecoach Festival's windy ride, and a temp check on music festivals at large, including FORM in Arcosanti, and a Lake Como scene report from Chris.
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935. - Jago Rackham
Jago Rackham is a chef from London. His wonderful debut book, To Entertain, is out now.
We chat about Salone in Milano, the UK cigarette ban, acid reflux, Britain’s obsession with failure, deviated septa, being more brown rice and steamed veg than you’d think, emailing on the medium screen, getting good grades in school while drunk, getting paid in clothes, Waymos with human drivers, how to be a private chef, the sexuality in his cooking, cum protein, crazy frog, and kitchen knives as home defense.
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934. - Recho Omondi
Recho Omondi is the host of The Cutting Room Floor, a popular fashion podcast. We chat with her about Law Roach’s lay-flat seat, softmaxxing one’s hair with human tears, her false reputation as an intimidating person, the guarded secret of her clipping style, a scene report from the Devil Wears Prada 2 premiere, from Africa to Oklahoma, the pressure to succeed from her father, how little craftsmanship seems to matter in fashion currently, your Dries skirt is arriving soon, and the pains of being dragged by one’s audience.
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933. - Chris & Jason
One-on-one pod today: Chris was in Los Angeles, and Jason was off to Coachella. We chat about substance use game plans, concert “underplays,” cruise ship financials, vaping in the airplane bathroom, Zohran’s rap royalties, some performances from the weekend, nine-inch nut-licking, Madonna’s Illuminati ritual, Drake’s ice-covered chairs, Ice Spice getting touched at McDonald’s, the left needing to take back “zip ties,” heart hands at the hardcore show, and Chris went to Erewhon Santa Monica.
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932. - Jeremy O. Harris
Playwright, actor, and screenwriter Jeremy O. Harris returns to the pod to chat about philosophy clubs replacing the club, our Paul Smith event with Delaney Rowe, a late-night meal at Canter’s, whether listening counts as reading, Lena Dunham’s beautiful mess, producing on Euphoria, all the boys he shared a Japanese jail cell with, the Geese conversation, his new film Erupcja with Charli XCX, his fiancé having two Birkins he didn’t pay for, double-tapping on horny chefs, and peeing sitting down.
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