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Rental Application Fraud Is Getting Harder to Catch: Here’s What’s Changing
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Today at 11:00 AM

Nov. 4, 2026

In this new episode of NARPM® Radio, Pete Neubig sits down with Rob Whiting, Co-Founder and CEO of Boom, to talk about what’s really happening behind the scenes of rental applications. They cover why fraud is getting harder to detect as AI makes fake documents more convincing, why most underwriting criteria are too rigid to account for real-world nuance, and the fair housing implications behind the first-come-first-served debate. Rob also breaks down what separates a high-converting application funnel from one that’s bleeding prospects, and what property managers should really be asking screening vendors before signi...


Everything Changes, Nothing Changes: A 30-Year Framework for Adopting New Technology
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10/28/2026

Oct. 28, 2026

Pete sits down with a thirty-year property management veteran and 2018 NARPM Past President Brian Birdy, MPM RMP, for a conversation about what’s actually changed in the business and what hasn’t. From a three-ring binder rent roll to flyer boxes, five-vendor trade show floors, and now AI agents, he walks through every technology shift he’s lived through and lands on the same point each time: the job itself- marketing the home, maintaining it, and communicating with the owner- hasn’t moved. They get specific about how to bring new technology into a company without breaking...


Conference ROI: Why Walking In With Three Problems Beats Walking Out With Fifteen
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10/21/2026

Oct. 21, 2026

Every property manager comes home from a conference with a notebook full of ideas and good intentions, but most of those ideas never go anywhere. In this episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with Robert Dell’Osso, Co-Founder and CEO of Master Key Property Management, to break down a simple framework for getting real value out of conferences instead of walking away overwhelmed. They talk through identifying your top operational bottlenecks before you ever arrive, how to prioritize sessions and vendor conversations around those specific problems, why hallway and bar conversations often beat the breakout sessions, an...


Build the Systems, Then Leave the Field: Scaling a Property Management Business from Anywhere
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10/14/2026

Oct. 14, 2026

This episode of the NARPM® Radio podcast breaks down the sequence one property management business owner, Cameron Trope, Broker/Owner of Emerson Property Management, followed to step away from day-to-day operations without sacrificing service quality: build the systems first, then leave the field. The conversation traces how early process checklists that tried to cover every possible scenario actually became unusable, why bringing in outside implementation help made the difference, and how shifting tasks to lower-cost remote team members only worked once the underlying process was solid. It also covers the policy decisions that quietly maintain consistency a...


From Zero Doors to 1,200 Units: A Blueprint for Scaling In-House Maintenance
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10/07/2026

Oct. 7, 2026

Two brothers took their property management company from zero doors to over 1,200 units in just six years and, along the way, built one of the most durable in-house maintenance operations in the industry. In this episode, Pete talks with the Shannon Property Management co-founders about how they split their maintenance team into three distinct roles: ticket technicians, 1099 make-ready crews, and independent estimators, and why keeping the estimator out of the make-ready team (with no "skin in the game") protects both pricing integrity and owner trust. They also get into utilization tracking, what it actually costs to...


How to Survive Losing Your Biggest Client (And Come Out Stronger)
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09/30/2026

Sept. 30, 2026

When Northpoint Asset Management lost 1,500 doors overnight in a major institutional consolidation, CEO Dan French had to rebuild fast. In this episode, Dan joins host Pete Neubig to unpack what really happened when a large capital partner consolidated its portfolio onto a single property manager, the SFR churn rates operators rarely admit to publicly, and how a deliberate client-pruning strategy turned a painful loss into a leaner, more resilient business. Dan shares the leadership mindset that carried his team through the disruption, the "owner concierge desk" system Northpoint built to catch problematic clients early, and how...


Building a Property Management Company Worth Owning
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09/23/2026

Sept. 23, 2026

In this episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with Chapin Hemphill, a two-time property management entrepreneur who left a corporate leadership role, built a 132-door firm from the ground up using remote staff and automation, and successfully exited it, only to start over again in a new state. The conversation covers what it actually takes to build a property management company that's valuable enough to sell, the books and frameworks that shaped that thinking, and how AI is now changing the way operators train remote team members, build internal tools, and hand off tasks that used...


The Filing Habit That Cut One Firm's Eviction Rate by 80%
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09/16/2026

Sept. 16, 2026

Eviction law is moving fast, and the property managers who don't keep pace are paying for it. In this episode of NARPM Radio, host Pete Neubig talks with the eviction attorneys of Loebsack & Brownlee - Chris Loebsack, Hans Dara and Jared Schmidt - about the current state of evictions across the Southeast. The conversation covers how to vet applicants against increasingly sophisticated fraud, the case for pursuing lease-violation evictions rather than waiting on non-payment, and the data behind one simple habit (filing consistently) that helped one client cut their writ rate from 27% to under 5%. Whether you're...


The Fee Increase Formula: How to Raise Prices Without Losing Clients
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09/09/2026

Sept. 9, 2026

Jeff and Jerry Hornberger scaled the Hornberger Group to nearly 700 units in three years, making almost every mistake along the way. In this episode of NARPM Radio, they break down the real cost of growing too fast, the decision to let go of a longtime client to protect their team, and how they finally got past their fear of raising fees, rolling out a new PMA that grew revenue by over 40% while losing just two clients. This is a candid, numbers-driven look at what it actually takes to scale a property management business.

 


Relationships Over Referral Fees: The Growth Strategy Behind a Record Month
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09/02/2026

Sept. 2, 2026 

Kyle Frederickson, co-founder of Keyrenter Boise, shares how his property management company added 36 new doors in a single month without spending a dollar on paid leads. He breaks down how he built a referral network from scratch after moving to a new city with zero connections, why "less is more" beats casting a wide net with brokerages, and the simple habit (actually answering the phone) that keeps referral relationships compounding for years. The conversation also gets into the review-generation tactics that turned a painful one-star review into content, and how he and his business partner — one the...


Right People, Right Seats: A Property Management Turnaround Story
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08/26/2026

Aug. 26, 2026

A year ago, Rob Kazen was burnt out, buried in day-to-day operations, and unknowingly holding his own company back. In this episode, the Broker/CEO of First Choice Property Management joins host Pete Neubig to share how promoting the right person into the right seat, paired with a shift from portfolio-based to pod structure, new AI tools, and real accountability metrics, transformed both his business and his role within it. It's a candid look at what it actually takes to move from working in your business to leading it.


From Tribal Knowledge to Process Culture: How to Scale Without Losing Control
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08/19/2026

Aug. 19, 2026

Most property management businesses start in what Ben Serven calls the "tribal knowledge" stage, where nothing is documented, and decisions live in people's heads. Pete sits down with Ben, founder and CEO of BlackSheep Global, to break down the four levels of process culture every PM business moves through on the way to sustainable growth, and why belief and documentation alone aren't enough without real accountability. They also cover the door-count threshold where "figuring it out as you go" stops working, and why departmental structures tend to scale more cleanly than portfolio models.


The $10, $100, $1,000 Rule: How Tony Cline Helps Property Management Owners Reclaim Their Time
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08/12/2026

Aug. 12, 2026

Every hour you spend on your business has a price tag. Are you working $10-an-hour jobs when you should be working $1,000-an-hour ones? In this episode, host Pete Neubig talks with Tony Cline, founder of Onyx Property Management Coaching, about his popular framework for identifying which tasks to delegate and which deserve your full attention. Tony also shares how lessons from ultra-marathon training — community, coaching, and metrics-driven commitment — apply directly to scaling a property management business.


One Language, One Standard: How NARPM®'s Trust Accounting Standards Are Changing Property Management
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08/05/2026

Aug. 5, 2026

Property management has long struggled with a basic problem: no two companies calculate their numbers the same way. In this episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with Brad Johnson, CEO of ProfitCoach, and Wolfgang Croskey, owner of Croskey Real Estate and co-founder of Crane, to unpack how the NARPM® Corporate and Trust Accounting Standards are solving that problem for good. Brad and Wolfgang walk through the origin of the corporate accounting standards back in 2018; why granular, standardized financial data matters for benchmarking and valuations; and how the newer NARPM® Trust Chart of Accounts is bringing that sa...


What HUD's Changes Mean for ESAs and Assistance Animals
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07/29/2026

July 29, 2026

HUD is signaling potential changes to how Emotional Support Animals (ESAs) are recognized, and property managers need to be prepared. In this episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with PetScreening Founder and CEO John R. Bradford III to break down what HUD's proposed changes could mean for ESAs and assistance animals, how federal and state rules interact, and what property managers should be doing today while the new guidance takes shape.


How Better Listing Media Helps Property Managers Lease Faster
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07/22/2026

July 22, 2026

Professional listing media does more than make a property look good; it can help you lease faster, reduce vacancy days, and strengthen your company's brand. In this episode of NARPM Radio, host Pete Neubig sits down with Kori Covrigaru, CEO of PlanOmatic, to discuss the data behind professional photography, 3D tours, floor plans, AI virtual staging, and the technology that's helping property managers streamline the leasing process while creating a better experience for both renters and owners.


How to Finance the Next Stage of Your Property Management Company's Growth
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07/15/2026

July 15, 2026

In this episode of NARPM Radio, host Pete Neubig sits down with Jordan Coleman, Loan Officer at Live Oak Bank, to explore how financing can help property management companies grow. They discuss refinancing debt to improve cash flow, funding hiring and marketing initiatives, and financing acquisitions. Jordan also shares what lenders look for, common acquisition mistakes, and practical advice for property managers preparing for their next stage of growth.


The AI Playbook for Property Managers: Where to Start and What to Expect
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07/08/2026

July 8, 2026

Artificial intelligence is changing property management, but where should you start? In this episode of NARPM Radio, host Pete Neubig sits down with Lindsay Liu, Co-Founder and CEO of Super, to discuss how property managers can use AI to improve responsiveness, reduce repetitive work, and create more efficient operations. Lindsay shares a practical approach to AI adoption, the importance of SOPs and processes, and what property management teams can expect as AI continues to reshape the industry.


Accountability Without Micromanagement: Building High-Performing Property Management Teams
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07/01/2026

July 1, 2026

In this episode of the NARPM Podcast, host Pete Neubig sits down with property management coach and industry thought leader Jo-Anne Oliveri to discuss what separates high-performing property management companies from the rest. From accountability and KPIs to workflows, technology, and team management, Jo-Anne shares practical strategies for building a culture of performance without falling into the trap of micromanagement. Whether you're leading a small team or scaling a growing property management company, this conversation is packed with actionable insights to help you improve consistency, increase efficiency, and create a stronger operational foundation.
 


Sell It, Scale It, or Hire a CEO?
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06/24/2026

June 25, 2026

 

Should you sell your property management company, scale it further, or hire a CEO to run it? Host Pete Neubig welcomes Deb Newell, owner of Real-Time Consulting and founder of PMX Marketplace, for a conversation about company valuations, acquisitions, exit planning, and the factors that drive business value. Whether you're preparing for growth or considering your next chapter, this episode will help you better understand your options.


The Operator Era: Why Property Management Performance Matters More Than Ever
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06/17/2026

June 17, 2026

In this episode of NARPM Radio, host Pete Neubig sits down with Ryan Killian, President of RENU Property Management, to discuss why the industry has entered what he calls the "operator era." Ryan shares lessons learned from scaling some of the largest single-family rental portfolios in the country, including the importance of data-driven decision-making, operational efficiency, centralization, and decision velocity. They explore how property managers can improve performance, reduce operational waste, leverage technology and AI, and build systems that drive profitability in today's market, where rent growth alone is no longer enough.


What Most Property Managers Are Underestimating Right Now
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06/10/2026

June 10, 2026

Property management is changing fast. In this episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with Steve Hart, Co-Founder and CEO of PMI, to discuss the major trends reshaping the industry, from AI and emerging technology to industry consolidation and scalable growth systems. Steve shares why community, standardized processes, and operational support are becoming increasingly important for property managers looking to grow beyond the day-to-day and build lasting businesses. Whether you're an independent operator or exploring new ways to scale, this conversation offers valuable insights into where the industry is headed.


Beyond the Hype: How AI is Actually Transforming Property Management Today
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06/03/2026

June 3, 2026

In this episode of the NARPM podcast, host Pete Neubig sits with David Bitton, co-founder of DoorLoop, to explore the tangible ways artificial intelligence (AI) is reshaping the property management industry. Moving past the initial hype, Bitton discusses how property managers can leverage tools like Claude, Jace.ai, and DoorLoop’s integrated AI assistant to automate up to 80% of tenant communications and maintenance troubleshooting. The conversation provides a roadmap for professionals to transition from manual tasks to becoming the "architects" of their businesses, emphasizing that while AI may not replace property managers, those who master it wi...


From 90-Hour Weeks to Strategic Leadership
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05/27/2026

May 27, 2026

As a property manager, it’s easy to get trapped in the day-to-day grind. In this episode, Chilon Anderson, CEO and Co-Founder of Above All Property Management, shares how she went from working 90-hour weeks and wearing every hat in her business to stepping into true strategic leadership. She and host Pete Neubig discuss building the right team, learning to let go, creating real business capacity, and why growth isn’t just about more doors — it’s about more freedom.


Driving NOI: Transforming Property Management with Ancillary Services and Bulk Internet
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05/20/2026

May 20, 2026

In this episode of NARPM Radio, host Pete Neubig welcomes Patrick Osman, CEO and co-founder of Utility Valet, to discuss innovative ways property managers can drive NOI through ancillary services. Patrick shares insights on how services like bulk internet and automated utility verification not only streamline the move-in process but also create new revenue streams for property management firms. Beyond technical solutions, the conversation dives deep into the entrepreneurial mindset required to shift from a daily operator to a business owner, the critical importance of prioritizing sales over perfect operations, and how property managers must upskill...


The Truth About LLMs, AI, and Your Property Management Website
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05/13/2026

May 13, 2026

In this episode of the NARPM podcast, host Pete Neubig sits down with Kristen Ewen,  VP of SEO and PMW Marketing at Rentvine, to talk about how ChatGPT and AI impact your website traffic and SEO. Kristen Ewen separates hype from reality and reveals how property managers can leverage AI without sacrificing authority, rankings or lead quality.


Tax Planning and Strategy for PM Company Owners
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05/06/2026

May 6, 2026

Most property management owners treat taxes as a once-a-year task — but real savings happen with proactive planning. In this new episode, Pete Neubig and CPA Chris Picciurro break down the difference between tax planning and preparation, key strategies like cost segregation and income shifting, and the biggest mistakes business owners make. If you want to reduce your tax burden and make smarter financial decisions year-round, this is a must-listen.


From “Wild West” to Scalable Systems: Bringing Multifamily Discipline to SFR
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04/29/2026

April 29, 2026

In this episode of the NARPM podcast, host Pete Neubig sits down with Dan French, CEO of Northpoint Asset Management, to explore how institutional-grade systems from multifamily are reshaping the “wild west” of single-family rentals. They dive into scaling operations, leveraging AI for efficiency, and what it really takes to bring structure, profitability and long-term growth to modern property management businesses.


Bridging the Gap: Mastering Property Manager and Maintenance Vendor Partnerships
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04/22/2026

April 22, 2026

In this week’s NARPM podcast, host Pete Neubig talks with Patrick Jacobs, the CEO of Shamrock Property Maintenance. Leveraging over 20 years of experience in the field, Jacobs shares real-world insights on moving away from unreliable "chucks in a truck" by implementing clear rules of engagement and formal vendor agreements. The discussion highlights how property managers can improve efficiency through standardized onboarding, open lines of communication, and the use of centralized maintenance portals like Property Meld or AppFolio to streamline workflows.


BDMs, Growth, and Reality: What Property Managers Get Wrong
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04/15/2026

April 15, 2026

In this week’s NARPM® podcast, host Pete Neubig talks with Jennifer Merritt, RentScale Partner and Chief Operating Officer - Integrator, who breaks down when — and how — to hire a business development manager. From readiness and lead flow to compensation, systems and common mistakes, Jennifer shares a practical framework to help property managers build a BDM role that actually drives growth.


Beyond Management: How Entrepreneurs Become Investors in the Businesses Around Them
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04/08/2026

April 8, 2026

In this week’s NARPM® podcast, host Pete Neubig talks with Peter McKenzie, founder of Rincon Property Management, about how property managers can grow beyond their own companies by investing in and partnering with others. Peter shares how mentorship evolved into strategic partnerships and outlines what it takes to do this successfully, from having a strong business foundation to structuring deals, aligning expectations and managing risk.


The Why and When to Hire a Handyman
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04/01/2026

April 1, 2026

In this episode, host Pete Neubig talks with Robert Dell’Osso, RMP®, President/Principal Property Manager of MasterKey Property Management and NARPM® Governmental Affairs Committee Chair, who spills the beans on NARPM Day on the Hill and explains why he decided to hire a handyman and spin off a separate maintenance company.


Mistakes I Made Implementing AI
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03/25/2026

March 25, 2026

In this week’s NARPM podcast episode, host Pete Neubig talks with Inaas Arabi, Chief Operating Officer at Block & Associates Realty,, about a failed AI implementation attempt and what he learned. Be a wise man and learn from others' mistakes. Inaas outlines the steps you need to take for a successful AI implementation.


Reduce Onboarding Headaches with a Property Conditions Report
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03/18/2026

March 18, 2026

Bringing on a new owner can create major headaches if expectations aren’t clear from the start. In this episode, host Pete Neubig talks with Karen Jordan, Director of Growth at HBR Rentals, about how her team uses a paid Property Condition Report during the onboarding process to set standards, educate owners, and prevent costly surprises later. Karen explains how this simple step helps screen for the right clients, ensures properties meet rent-ready standards, and creates smoother onboarding for both owners and residents. The result? Faster leasing, fewer early maintenance issues and a much calmer experience fo...


Seller Financing and the Boomer Seller: Why Taxes Make It a Win-Win
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03/11/2026

March 11, 2026

In this week’s NARPM podcast episode, host Pete Neubig talks with acquisition strategist Stacey Salyer about how to grow a property management business through strategic acquisition, not the "door-by-door grind." Salyer, founder of Salyer's Built to Acquire™, dispels common myths, shares strategic ways to acquire a business without millions of dollars, and explains why "boomer sellers" often prefer seller financing due to the tax benefits, creating a "win-win" for both parties. She also breaks down the critical mindset and steps required to move past analysis paralysis and successfully close a deal.


From Operator to Owner: Building a PM Business That Runs Without You
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03/04/2026

March 4, 2026

In this week’s NARPM Radio podcast, host Pete Neubig talks with Mark Brower about what it really takes to step out of the day-to-day and lead as an owner. From hiring high-level talent to developing a clear vision, Mark breaks down the leadership and mindset shifts required to build a scalable, sustainable property management company.


Leveraging Video to Enhance Your Operations
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02/25/2026

February 25, 2026

In this new podcast, host Pete Neubig sits down with Sarah Hatch, Owner/Broker of Hatch Property Management, to discuss how to use video to enhance your operations. It's not as hard as you think it is. Don't overthink it. Use video not just for marketing purposes, but to reduce resident work orders, including maintenance work orders. Use video to enhance your relationship with your owners.


Hiring Your First BDM and Building Referral Relationships to Unlock Growth
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02/18/2026

Feb. 18, 2026

In this week’s NARPM podcast episode, host Pete Neubig interviews Trent Bray, who trains Business Development Managers (BDMs) for Property Management Inc. (PMI) franchise partners on the sales process. Bray advises new owners to wait until they are near the break-even point to hire their first BDM, arguing they should first understand the sales process themselves. He emphasizes that property management is a relationship-driven, referral-based business and prefers hiring a salesperson over a marketer to build these networks. Bray suggests BDMs build relationships with real estate agents using platforms like LinkedIn to warm up the co...


Why Most Property Managers Don’t Build Wealth - and How to Fix It
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02/11/2026

Feb. 11, 2026

In this week’s NARPM podcast episode, Pete Neubig interviews Justin Anderson, founder and CEO of RentSmart, licensed broker and author of "Funny Money: Building Wealth in a System Rigged to Keep You Broke." Anderson argues that property managers are uniquely positioned to build wealth but often miss the opportunity and should aim to become investment advisors for their clients, suggesting that owning investment properties is key to becoming a better advisor. He claims that housing is cheaper now than it has ever been when measuring value by gold, and explains the four phases of the ma...


Inside the Policy Shift: NARPM on Trump’s SFR Executive Order and HUD
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02/04/2026

Feb. 4, 2026

In this urgent NARPM podcast episode, host Pete Neubig sits down with NARPM Government Affairs Director Tyler Craddock and national property management counsel, Monica Gilroy, Esq., to break down President Trump’s new executive order targeting institutional single-family rental purchases and a recent HUD directive impacting assisted housing. They explain what’s actually in these policies, what’s still undefined and what third-party property managers need to watch closely as guidance continues to unfold.