Unschooling Mom2Mom

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By: Sue Patterson

The Unschooling Mom2Mom podcast is a quick conversation with Sue Patterson, coach, author, and mother of 3 grown unschoolers. Sue shares inspiration and tips to help you find the unschooling confidence you're looking for! Even if you’re more of a “homeschooler” than an “unschooler,” these 10 minute(ish) podcasts can help you find more joy in parenting, educating and connecting with your children! All 6 Seasons listed here: https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/podcast

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What the Homeschool Socialization Question Misses | 229
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Yesterday at 7:00 PM

Everyone asks, “But what about socialization?”

Usually, they mean: Will your child have friends?

But sometimes they’re asking something much bigger:
Without school, who will teach your child how to fit in?

And that raises a question we rarely stop to ask:

What kind of socialization are children actually getting at school—and is all of it something we want to recreate?

Because spending every day with same-age peers doesn’t teach children only how to make friends. It also teaches them about...


You Don’t Need Curriculum to Make Learning Happen | 228
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09/08/2026

Looking for fun homeschooling ideas that don’t require curriculum? Discover how unschooling and strewing help children learn naturally through everyday activities and interests.

Your September Calendar is ready for you!

In this episode, Sue explores how learning can weave through playful September possibilities—from making Rice Krispie treats to investigating rabbits or noticing the changing daylight around the Autumn Equinox.

She explains how strewing introduces interesting ideas without assigning lessons, controlling the outcome, or requiring every activity to become a major project.

You’ll also hear how the Strewing Calendar makes...


How to Stay Confident About Unschooling—Before a Crisis Hits | 227
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09/03/2026

Looking for unschooling support that will help you stay confident without adding another overwhelming plan or curriculum to your life? In this episode, Sue Patterson explains how a simple daily “unschooling workout” can protect your confidence from the school-centered messages surrounding you.

You’ll hear:

Why unschooling confidence can disappear even when everything is going wellHow school expectations gradually creep back into our thinkingWhy you shouldn’t wait for a crisis to reconnect with unschoolingHow two or three minutes a day can strengthen your perspectiveWhy connecting with other unschooling parents matters—even if you’re an introv...


Six Months Ago, I Tried An Unschooling Experiment | 226
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08/25/2026

Daily unschooling support can help homeschooling parents build confidence before doubts, comparisons, and outside pressure take over.

Six months ago, I created a small Daily Support app as an experiment. Those one- or two-minute morning voice notes became something much more useful than I expected.

In this episode, I’m sharing:

Why brief, daily support can have such a powerful impactHow unschooling confidence can quietly erode when life gets busyWhy we shouldn’t wait for a crisis to reconnect with what we believeWhat Daily Support has grown to includeThe new Creating Confidence — Daily and Full S...


School Refusal: A Mom-to-Mom Reframe When Your Kid Is Miserable | 225
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08/21/2026

My Kid Won't Go Back to School — What If We Didn't Make Them?

Every school-refusal article this week says the same thing: watch for the warning signs, then find gentler ways to get your kid back in the building. 
But what if that's not the only option?

In this episode, Sue talks — mom to mom — about the real question underneath the panic of school refusal: not "how do I get compliance," but "what if my kid's distress is actually information worth listening to?" Sue shares her own story of never planning to homesch...


The School Year Is Starting Without Us—Why Does It Feel So Weird? | 224
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08/18/2026

The school year is starting, but your child isn’t going back. Even when homeschooling is the right decision, back-to-school season can stir up doubt, mixed feelings, and the urge to suddenly make a bigger plan.

In this episode, we talk about why August can feel so strange when your family steps outside the school calendar, why your child may miss parts of school without wanting to return, and how old school expectations can creep into your thinking before you realize it.

If you’re new to homeschooling or unschooling and wondering why this transition feel...


My Child Isn’t Going Back to School—Now What? | 223
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08/13/2026

Is your child not going back to school? Here’s how to start homeschooling—or explore unschooling—without rushing into curriculum or recreating school at home.

Once you’ve made the decision to leave school, a new worry often moves in: What are we supposed to do now?

In this episode, Sue Patterson shares five practical ways to begin:

Handle your state’s legal requirements without mistaking them for an educational planConsider what your child may need to recover from after leaving schoolAvoid letting fear rush you into curriculum, rigid schedules, and too many c...


The Cons of Unschooling: Where Homeschooling Parents Need to Pivot | 222
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07/30/2026

A recent Parents.com article explaining the pros and cons of unschooling raises an important question: Are these really problems with unschooling—or signs that we’re still defining learning through a school lens?

In this episode, Sue Patterson looks at the concerns raised about basic skills, parental involvement, free time, and schedules—and explores where homeschooling parents may need to pivot.

Are children really learning only when they’re completing lessons? Does making them study subjects they dislike prepare them for the future? And what might they lose when their curiosity is repeatedly interrupted by an ad...


Unschooling Course or Resource Library: Which One Fits You? #221
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07/27/2026


Would an unschooling course you can work through step by step—or a library of resources you can pull from when you need them—fit you better?

Some unschooling parents want a clear path they can follow from beginning to end. Others want trusted help waiting for them when questions about deschooling, technology, math, or doing enough appear.

In this short episode, Sue explains the difference between two kinds of self-paced unschooling support:

The Unschooling Starter Bundle—with Unschooling 101 and Learning Math Without Curriculum
The Unschooling Parent Toolkit—with al...


Maybe Timelines Are Why Unschooling Feels So Hard | 220
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07/24/2026

Why does it feel like unschooling isn’t working—even when you can see learning happening? The problem may be the school timelines you’re still using to measure your child.

Many homeschooling and unschooling parents worry that their children aren’t reading, doing math, becoming independent, or preparing for the future soon enough. We may have left school behind, but its milestones can still shape how we define progress—and turn ordinary uncertainty into fear.

In this episode, Sue looks at why timelines make unschooling so difficult to trust, how today’s concern can become a fri...


Is My Child Behind? Or Am I Using the Wrong Timeline? | 219
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07/16/2026

Is your child really behind... or are you comparing them to the wrong timeline?

When we leave school, do we have to carry the school's timeline with us?

Doesn't the freedom to learn outside a classroom give us a different way to measure growth?

In this episode, we're exploring one of the most common fears homeschooling and unschooling parents face: the worry that their child is falling behind. But before we answer that question, I want to challenge the assumptions behind it.

If you've ever found yourself wondering whether...


Why Summer Makes Homeschooling Parents Rush to Plan | 218
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07/08/2026

Summer has a funny way of making homeschooling parents feel like they should have a plan. Even unschooling parents can start worrying about filling the time, finding a routine, or doing... more.

Being between one school year and the next can feel surprisingly uncomfortable. Maybe it's the extra space.

In this episode, we're exploring why those in-between seasons make us want to rush into decisions—to buy something, fix something, or make a plan—and why slowing down to observe your child may bring more clarity than planning ever could.

It's...


When Your Kid Won't Get Off Screens: Why It Turns Into a Battle | 217
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07/06/2026

When your kid won't get off screens, even a simple request can quickly turn into a battle. 

Many homeschooling and unschooling parents find themselves caught in this frustrating pattern. What starts as "time for dinner" or "we need to leave" suddenly becomes an argument, leaving everyone wondering why it escalated so quickly.

In this episode, Sue Patterson explores why screen time battles happen, what children experience when they're deeply engaged in gaming, and how understanding those transitions can help reduce conflict without relying on more rules or consequences.

In this episode you'll l...


Making Homeschooling Decisions Out of Fear | 216
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06/23/2026

What if fear is influencing more of your homeschooling decisions than you realize?

When we're anxious about our children's future, it's easy to mistake fear for wisdom and urgency for insight.

In this episode, Sue Patterson explores how fear can cloud our judgment, shape our homeschooling decisions, and make it difficult to separate what we're actually observing from what we're afraid might happen.

If you've ever wondered whether you're responding to your child—or to your fear—this episode is for you.

Need help sorting through your specific situation?
...


Can Video Games Count as High School Credit? | 215
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06/19/2026

They're playing all the time - is there anything worthwhile that we can count for homeschooling transcript? 

The answer may surprise you. 
In this episode, Sue Patterson explores how gaming can support learning in subjects like history, science, math, philosophy, leadership, and communication—and shares real examples of how those experiences can be documented on a transcript.

Many parents worry that gaming is "just entertainment," especially when their teen spends hours immersed in Minecraft, Civilization, Kerbal Space Program, Factorio, Discord communities, or competitive gaming. But when you look beyond the label and focus on what...


Are Homeschooling Questions Stealing Your Summer? | 214
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06/12/2026

Are you wondering whether it's time to make a change in your child's education?

Many parents spend the whole summer questioning what's working, what's not, and whether a different approach to learning might be a better fit for their family. Some are considering leaving the school system. Others are rethinking traditional homeschooling. Still others are exploring unschooling for the first time.

They aren't just looking for answers about academics, motivation, socialization, or learning gaps. They're trying to decide what comes next—and what they need to know before making a change.

In this ep...


What Really Prepares Kids for Adulthood? | 213
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05/18/2026

Are we preparing kids for adulthood… or preparing them for school expectations?

Parents worry about grades, gaps, transcripts, screen time, and whether their kids will be successful adults. But real adult life often depends on something else entirely: adaptability, communication, confidence, initiative, emotional regulation, and problem solving.

In this episode, Sue Patterson explores how real-life experiences, play, curiosity, gaming, technology, and pursuing interests can help kids develop the skills they actually need for adulthood.

Also:

 why school expectations still shape our fears  how unschooling builds real-world problem-solving skills  the difference between...


The Mother's Day Fairy - For Unschooling Moms! | 212
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05/07/2026

Mother's Day can be a lot of things — wonderful, disappointing, emotional, or somewhere in between. For unschooling and homeschooling moms, there's an added twist: your kids aren't sitting in a classroom getting reminded to make something for you. No teacher. No craft. No school newsletter nudging dad to pick up flowers.

So this year? You become the Mother's Day Fairy. 🧚‍♀️

In this episode, Sue Patterson — mom to three now-grown unschooled kids and founder of Unschooling Mom2Mom — shares why unschooling really is a Mother's Movement, and how you can reclaim Mother's Day so it actually fits YOU and yo...


What Does an Unschooling Day Look Like? Real-Life Examples by Age | 211
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05/05/2026

What does an unschooling day actually look like?

If you’ve been searching for a routine, a schedule, or some kind of structure you can follow… and keep coming up empty, this episode will give you something more useful.

Instead of a rigid plan, we’re walking through real-life examples of unschooling days—what it looks like for younger kids, older kids, and teens—and why it can feel so unstructured (even when learning is happening all day long).

Inside this episode:

What unschooling looks like in real life (by age)Why “structure” f...


Is Unschooling Enough? What it looks like day to day | 210
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04/28/2026

What does unschooling look like day to day—and how do you know it’s enough?This is where most parents start to second-guess everything.

If you’ve ever lwondered, “Is this enough?”—you’re not alone.

We’re unpacking one of the most common fears in unschooling:
What learning actually looks like when it doesn’t look like school.

With no worksheets, no visible lessons, and no clear benchmarks… it can feel like nothing is happening. But that’s not what’s going on.

We’ll talk about:

 Why uns...


How Unschooling Kids Learn Math Without Curriculum (A Real Day, Hour by Hour) | 209
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04/17/2026

How do unschoolers learn math without a curriculum?
Can kids really learn math without school—and how do you know it’s enough?

Here's a real “day in the life” of an unschooling teen. See exactly where math shows up—hour by hour—without worksheets, textbooks, or formal lessons.

If you’ve been wondering:

 how do kids learn math without curriculum  is real life math enough  am I doing enough math in our homeschool  what about unschooling math gaps 

…you'll get a clear, practical look at how math naturally develops through everyday life.

Real life Ma...


The Truth about Unschooling "Schedules" | 208
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03/17/2026

“If we don’t use a curriculum... how do we plan anything?”

It’s the number one question new unschoolers ask. If stepping away from traditional lesson plans makes you feel like you’ve lost your roadmap, this episode is for you! 

Welcome to Season 6 of the Unschooling Mom2Mom podcast! This week, host Sue Patterson explains why planning as an unschooling parent isn’t about deciding what your child must learn next. It’s about shaping an environment where curiosity has room to grow. 

When you let go of the need to control...


BONUS: Pi Day Without the Hype — When “Fun Learning” Falls Flat
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03/13/2026

Pi Day is one of those holidays parents often try to make “fun.” 

But sometimes the issue isn’t the activity — it’s the hype.

Here's a quick unschooling perspective on Pi Day and why kids often respond better to curiosity than to pressure.

Instead of trying to convince kids something is fun, unschooling families often offer ideas lightly — letting interest show up naturally.

Sometimes kids lean in.
Sometimes they don’t.

And both are completely normal.

Sue Patterson also shares a simple way to i...


Quirky Kids: Unschooling and Neurodivergence | 206
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03/09/2026

What can unschooling families learn from the neurodivergent community?

In this episode, Sue Patterson looks at how our understanding of “quirky” kids has changed over the years—and why many unschooling parents are learning from approaches developed within the neurodivergent community.

Even families without a diagnosis can benefit from these ideas when kids struggle with expectations, pressure, or social dynamics.

In this episode:

Reassurance for parents of neurodivergent childrenHow the conversation around neurodivergence has evolvedWhy many families turn to unschooling when school isn’t working What parents can learn fro...


Do You Need to Revisit Deschooling? When Unschooling Doubts Show Up | 205
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03/03/2026

Do you need to revisit deschooling as your child gets older?
Many unschooling and homeschooling parents start worrying about learning gaps, grade levels, falling behind, and whether unschooling is “working.”

Deschooling is often treated as a beginning phase of homeschooling. But school conditioning doesn’t disappear once. It resurfaces in layers.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Why deschooling isn’t one-and-done
 • How grade-level thinking creeps back in
 • Why independence can trigger anxiety
 • Common fears about gaps and timelines
 • How to recalibrate without returning to school-at-home structure

If you...


Those Voices in Your Head? Let Me Elbow In | 204
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02/27/2026

If you’re an unschooling or homeschooling parent struggling with doubt, internal criticism, or wondering if you’re doing enough, this episode is for you. We talk about how unschooling confidence is built through daily reinforcement — not one-time inspiration.

Start your free week of Creating Confidence Daily here:
https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/creating-confidence-daily

Unschooling doubt doesn’t disappear just because you left school.

Old scripts — about productivity, laziness, timelines, and “doing enough” — are still there criticizing you.

And when real life gets loud, those voices get louder.

In this epi...


The Real Reason Your Unschooling Confidence Disappears (And How to Strengthen It) | 203
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02/14/2026

You feel steady about unschooling…
 and then one comment, one comparison, one tired day — and you spiral.

Why does confidence disappear so fast?

Let's unpack why unschooling confidence doesn’t “stick” — even when you understand the philosophy.

Confidence doesn’t grow on autopilot. It comes from intentionally brining it back to the front of our minds. Rhythm and repetition. 

Today, we'll talk about:
 • Why doubt resurfaces in cycles
 • The difference between insight and daily reinforcement
 • Why bingeing encouragement doesn’t work
 • How 10–15 intentional minutes can steady your thinking

If you’ve ev...


Unschooling the Olympics: No Curriculum Needed | 202
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02/05/2026

When the Olympics roll around, it’s easy to feel pressure to “do something educational.”
You don’t need a unit study, curriculum, or lesson plan for real learning to happen.

Big cultural events like the Olympics are already rich with opportunities for curiosity, connection, and noticing — if you let them be. In this episode, Sue talks about how to strew the Olympics: leaving learning invitations available without turning them into lessons or checklists.

You’ll hear what strewing actually looks like in everyday life, how to follow interest without forcing it, and why resisting th...


I Want to Do More to Teach — Why That Feeling Shows Up | 201
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01/22/2026

Feeling lost about teaching is common when you step away from school. Sue Patterson explores why the urge to teach more keeps showing up — and why learning doesn’t depend on parents doing more teaching, but on staying focused on the learner.

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“I want to do more to teach, but I feel lost.”

If that thought has crossed your mind, you’re not the only one. That feeling often shows up when you step away from school-based learning and realize you’re still carrying old ideas about what teaching is supposed to look like.

...


Learning from Dragons - Without Planning a Thing! | 200
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01/15/2026

How do kids really learn without curriculum?

What if learning is hiding in the things we almost dismiss as “just for fun”?

Let's use Appreciate a Dragon Day as a real-life example of how learning shows up naturally — through curiosity, imagination, conversation, and play — without planning lessons or following a curriculum.

Parents exploring unschooling or questioning traditional homeschooling can learning how to notice learning instead of trying to engineer it.

You’ll hear about:

How everyday interests connect to real learningWhy play, storytelling, and imaginatio...


Why Deschooling Is Really for Parents: Letting Go of Schoolish Thinking | 199
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01/13/2026

Many parents expect deschooling to work like a big reset button — pull kids out of school, give it a little time, and everything will fall into place.

But when kids seem to be “vegging out,” parents often panic: Is this really how it’s supposed to work?

In this episode, I unpack what’s actually happening in those moments — and why that panic makes sense.

Leaving school doesn’t automatically erase the habits we learned growing up. Even when unschooling feels right, school-shaped ideas about productivity, pace, comparison, and structure can quietly shape how we interpr...


When School-at-Home Homeschooling Stops Working | 198
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01/06/2026

When traditional homeschooling stops working, there’s nothing wrong with exploring your options.
The Unschooling 101 mini-course can help. Let’s talk about what’s going on together.
-> Unschooling 101

-> Creating Confidence Membership (Unschooling 101 is included)

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If you’ve been homeschooling for a while — especially in a more traditional or school-at-home way — there often comes a point when it just doesn’t feel like it’s working anymore.

Not because you’re doing something wrong.
Not because your kids are failing.
But because the structure you started doesn’t fit your f...


197 - Let Winter Be Winter: Resist Rushing into January
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12/29/2025

This post-holiday stretch can make even confident homeschooling and unschooling parents second-guess everything. But winter isn’t the time to push harder — even though everything around us insists we need to ‘get back on track.

So what if we took a different approach?

If the last semester felt less than stellar, it may not need a complete overhaul. It often just means real life showed up — and winter is asking for something different. This episode invites you to slow down, reflect clearly, and notice what’s actually true beneath the fear, guilt, and January noise.

We ta...


196 - Unschooling in December: What Typical Days Really Look Like
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12/08/2025

Unschooling in December doesn’t mean “taking a break from learning.”
In this episode, Sue Patterson shares what typical unschooling days really look like during the holidays—slow mornings, cozy rhythms, spontaneous learning, busy outings, and the kinds of meaningful life experiences that traditional schooling often pushes aside.

If you’ve wondered how unschooling families handle December, or if you’re transitioning away from school and worried about “falling behind,” this conversation will help you see how much learning naturally shows up through holiday activities, connection, play, creativity, and real life.

You’ll learn:


195 - Confused About Unschooling? Let’s Talk It Out
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12/05/2025

If you're having doubts or feeling overwhelmed, I have some options for you!

You're not the only parent who enters December feeling confused about their homeschooling or unschooling choices. Sue Patterson shares nearly 30 years of experience here, offering reassurance and perspective. And even if you do need to pivot, you don’t have to figure it out alone.

Unschooling is a practice — one small, brave decision at a time — and you don’t have to walk it alone.

Links mentioned:
Discounted December Coaching Calls:  http://www.suepatterso...


194 - The Unschooling Roller Coaster & Why You Shouldn't Ride Alone!
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12/01/2025

Does unschooling feel like a roller coaster — some days confident, other days full of doubt? You’re not alone. This episode explores why the early stages feel so shaky and what actually helps parents feel steady again.

We’ll talk about:
 • why deschooling feels so emotional and up-and-down
 • the hidden pressures that make you second-guess yourself
 • why doing this alone feels so much harder
 • what real, judgment-free support does for your confidence
 • stories from parents who finally stopped spiraling
 • why the holiday season magnifies everything — good and hard

If you’re tired of the intern...


193 - Your Thanksgiving Toolkit: 3 Tools to Handle Holiday Criticism
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11/26/2025

Worried about family questioning your unschooling over Thanksgiving?

In this episode, Sue Patterson shares a simple Thanksgiving Toolkit to help you stay calm, grounded, and confident when the tough questions come. 

Grab 3 practical tools to steady yourself, respond (or not respond) with clarity, and keep the holiday peaceful for you and your kids.

Thanksgiving Parent Bundle https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/product/Thanksgiving-Parent-Bundle

Black Friday Deals for Sue's Membership https://www.unschoolingmom2mom.com/black-friday

Let me know what you think of this!

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192 - Staying Grounded During Holiday Stress (Unschooling Parents)
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11/25/2025

The holidays can bring up all kinds of emotions — especially when you’re the unschooling parent walking into a room where everyone has an opinion. And even if people mean well, their questions can still hit tender spots or stir up old schooling fears.

In today’s episode, we’ll talk about how to stay grounded when family members question your unschooling choices. I’ll walk you through five simple, steadying tips you can lean on during awkward moments — the same ones I share with parents inside my membership when this season rolls around.

You’ll lea...


191 - When Your Child Plays All Day: Unschooling, Deschooling & Real Learning
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11/19/2025

Ever wonder if you’re doing enough when your child just wants to play all day — Legos, trampolines, video games — and you’re trying to trust unschooling? 

In this episode, Sue Patterson from Unschooling Mom2Mom answers a real email from a worried parent and explains:

 Why this “all play” phase is normal during deschooling, What’s actually happening in your child’s brain, How to shift from panic to partnership. How play builds real learning, Why motivation returns naturallyHow to support your child without slipping into passivity or overcontrol.

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190 - Unschooling and Gratitude: Noticing What’s Going Right
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11/11/2025

Feeling stretched thin — or wondering if you’re doing enough? You’re not alone.

But I have something simple you can try:

Let's look at Gratitude through and unschooling lens!

In this episode, Sue Patterson from Unschooling Mom2Mom shares how shifting toward gratitude can calm the chaos and help you see how much is already working in your unschooling life.

She has created an Unschooling and Gratitude Hub over at the website. You'll find so many tips and resources for bringing gratitude into your homes. You’ll learn how to s...