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How He Made $700K Selling Life Insurance & Mortgage Protection (Ep. 303)
He’s sitting at roughly $720,000 for the year in personal production and the part that shocks most people is how he’s doing it: working mortgage protection hard, using a mix of paid leads and a leveraged partnership that delivers funded-loan data, then dialing it like a true cold calling system. We dig into why mortgage protection life insurance is still a huge opportunity, why “simple” doesn’t mean “easy,” and how to sell it without hype by painting a clear picture of what happens to a family when the main income earner disappears.
Julius breaks mortgage protection int...
This AI Could Change How Life Insurance Agents Sell (Ep. 302)
Your CRM shouldn’t feel like a second job. We bring on Tucker George and Brandon Priest from Spark AI, plus producing agent Chase Blakley, to show what happens when a life insurance CRM, power dialer, and lead management system is built around an AI agent instead of bolted-on automations.
We get specific about what agents actually need: outbound follow-up that doesn’t drop the ball, text and call sequences that improve through split testing, and real-time coaching that helps newer agents stop guessing and start acting. Chase explains how the platform can reduce the “thinking tax” during s...
How Spanish-Speaking Agents Are Winning the Latino Market (Ep. 301)
Most people say they want to “help the community.” These guests show what it looks like when you actually do it, in Spanish, at scale, while posting numbers that turn heads. We’re joined by high-producing leaders serving the Latino market through life insurance, IULs, final expense, and retirement planning, and we get into the real opportunity hiding in plain sight: millions of Spanish-speaking families who still do not have coverage or a plan.
We talk leads and growth the way working agents talk about it in the field. Where are Spanish leads coming from? How do you te...
How Inbound Calls and IULs Helped These Agents Scale Fast (Ep. 300)
New to selling life insurance and tired of hearing ten different opinions on what leads to buy? We sit down with Brandon Frank and Jaden Shuey right after they post monster months, $65,000 and $64,000, and we get painfully specific about what’s working for them as newer agents: how they started, what they stopped doing, and why inbounds changed their speed to skill.
We unpack the real ramp-up for a new final expense agent, including how Shark Tank style free aged leads can help you get reps without lighting cash on fire, and why inbound leads feel like a...
How They’re Using Health Insurance to Write More Life & Annuities (Ep. 299)
Health insurance feels like a trap when you are self employed: high ACA premiums, sky high deductibles, and a plan you still do not trust when life gets real. We sit down with Gaylan Hendricks, the “Queen of the Bundle,” plus Kyle Lichlyter and Tray Honeycutt to unpack a different approach built on defined benefit and fixed indemnity insurance, including Manhattan Life Affordable Choice. We talk plainly about what this coverage is, what it is not, and why “package of protection” is a better frame than trying to force one plan to do everything.
We walk through how clai...
How These 18 & 21-Year-Olds Became Top Life Insurance Producers (Ep. 298)
Two young producers walk into the studio and casually drop numbers most agents never touch: Christian Judeh is 18 and writes $83,000 in premium, Ely Ruiz is 21 and edges him out with $85,000, both doing it with 100 plus applications, relentless consistency, and a system they actually follow. We break down what their days look like, what they spend on leads, and why inbound final expense telesales can turn into a repeatable pipeline when you treat it like a craft instead of a gamble.
We also go deeper than production. Ely shares the hard pivot from being a Division I baseball...
A Sit-Down with the CEO of National Life Group (Ep. 297)
A life insurance company founded in 1848 calls itself a “178-year-old startup,” and the more we talked, the more that mindset made sense. We’re joined by National Life Group Chairman, CEO and President Mehran Assadi and distribution leader Louis Puglisi to unpack what a mutual insurance company really is, why it changes the incentives, and how that structure can keep clients, claims paying, and long-term promises at the center of the business.
We dig into the numbers and the reality behind the headlines: benefits paid to clients, living benefits, and why trust gets built when policyholders can actual...
College Dropout Writes 55 Policies in a Month (Ep. 296)
A 24-year-old producer says his biggest breakthrough wasn’t a new script or a new carrier. It was sobriety, discipline, and finally choosing an environment that actually pays agents on time. We sit down with Sam Atherton to talk about what life insurance sales looks like when you stop chasing the flashy version and start building something that lasts, from recruiting and culture to lead spend and real net cash flow.
We get honest about the unglamorous parts: bouncing through multiple IMOs, losing a team, tracking debt across carriers, and learning the hard way that stability matters mor...
How Switching to IULs Took Him From 15 to 142 Policies (Ep. 295)
$142,000 in a single month sounds like a highlight reel, but we wanted the unfiltered version, so we brought on Derrick Robison to break down what actually drove the numbers. We talk through the mix of big cases, consistent effort, and the less glamorous truth behind production: lead spend, packed calendars, no-shows, and showing up anyway. Derrick shares what his deposits really looked like, how many appointments he books, and why structure wins when motivation fades.
Derrick also traces his path from 13 years in ministry into life insurance, and why the overlap is bigger than most people think: s...
Tire Salesman & College Student Write 100+ Life Insurance Policies (Ep. 294)
Big results in life insurance sales rarely come from hype, and this conversation proves it. We sit down with John Palmer, who wrote $86,000 in his first full month after leaving tire sales, and Tate Buckentine, a 21-year-old college student stacking $25K to $31K months during summer grind seasons. Their stories land on the same core truth: disciplined reps beat talent when you commit to a simple system and stop negotiating with yourself.
We talk about why former athletes often thrive as insurance agents, from handling pressure to embracing boring daily fundamentals. John breaks down how he worked...
Former Basketball Players Write 100+ Policies Per Month (Ep. 293)
A lot of people think life insurance sales is about confidence and clever lines. We’ve found the opposite: the biggest producers build their results on standards, structure, and a real reason to care. Josh Gibbs and Blaze Lubbers join us to talk through what it actually looks like to go from a messy start to writing huge months in premium, including Josh’s story of failing his exam multiple times, going months without a sale, and then exploding once he committed to the basics.
We dig into the systems that make their agency culture different: punctuality that’...
Why Top Pest Control Reps Are Moving to Life Insurance (Ep. 291)
Door-to-door will toughen you up fast, but it can also steal your time, your energy, and your relationships. We’re joined by Juan Diaz, Marlon Scott, and August Johnson, three former pest control reps who now sell final expense life insurance virtually and are already putting up $50K plus months. They break down what actually changed when they went from walking neighborhoods to dialing leads at home, and why “the hardest thing that can happen” on the phone is usually a hang-up instead of cops getting called.
We talk honestly about the mental hurdle of buying leads, why it...
How to Build an Agency Bigger Than Yourself (Ep. 290)
If you have ever watched door-to-door grinders in the heat and wondered how anyone turns that hustle into something scalable, this conversation answers it with real numbers, real mistakes, and real systems. We sit down with Oussama Mastouri and Elliott Tomlinson to talk about leaving solar and pest control behind, stepping into life insurance sales, and building a team-first agency culture that does not depend on posting a “rich life” online.
We get specific about what actually moves the needle: how they define a “logo” month as $100,000 in team production without relying on personal sales, why they value ho...
The Ugly Truth of Life Insurance (Ep.289)
$40K months in life insurance sound like a highlight reel until you hear what happens behind the scenes: chargebacks that wipe out a week’s work, fraud that can roll uphill as debt, and the mental grind of getting told “no” all day and showing up again tomorrow. We sit down with four high-producing agents and leaders to lay out the real tradeoffs of commission sales, the habits that keep you stable, and the mistakes that quietly take people out of the business.
We get tactical on what actually moves the needle, from lead generation and working IUL le...
Former College Athletes Build Massive Insurance Businesses (Ep. 292)
Locked doors at 7:45. Cameras on. No “magic lead source” excuses. That’s the level of standard Mike Schaefer, Gavin Bates, and Trey Jungers bring to building their life insurance agency, and it’s why their results (and their team’s results) look different. We sit down and get straight into the real stuff people usually dodge: how they got started, what they believe the first year actually requires, and how they think about growth when you’re not just producing, but leading.
We talk the business with receipts: final expense leads, veteran leads, inbound calls, referrals and beneficiarie...
Why Every Agent Should Use National Life Group (Ep. 288)
You can’t build generational wealth on “cute” financial gifts that barely move. We sit down with Brittany Russo, Senior Director of Sales at National Life Group, to talk about a different approach: children’s life insurance and juvenile IUL strategies that are affordable, trackable, and actually useful later in life.
We start with something most people never see, real policy numbers inside a simple mobile app that looks and feels like online banking. From there, Brittany breaks down why many parents skip kids’ policies (they assume it’s expensive) and why starting small, even $25/month, can matter when...
How This Single Mom Achieved Financial Freedom Through Life Insurance (Ep. 287)
Fear doesn’t go away when you want a better life. Sometimes it shows up as hives before your first dial, a maxed-out credit card, or that quiet panic when you swipe your card and wonder if it’ll decline. Andrew Taylor talks with Bree Starr, better known as “Bree MF Starr,” and her story is as real as it gets: single mom of three, nearly $50K in debt, and forced to make life insurance work because there wasn’t a backup plan. What changed everything wasn’t a perfect start, it was the moment she stopped negotiating with herself and...
The King of Inbound Life Insurance Leads (Ep. 286)
You can spend all day chasing people who never pick up, or you can pick up the phone when they call you. That’s the promise of inbound leads, and Sam Nemovi from Spektra Leads joins us to explain what’s real, what’s hype, and what actually makes inbound calls profitable for life insurance agents selling final expense.
We dig into the mechanics: how Spektra generates thousands of inbound calls per day using in-house advertising, why tracking matters more than “talk time,” and how smart routing can match the right agent to the right traffic source. Sam shares...
From $1.3 Million in Solar to Life Insurance... Here's Why (Ep. 285)
A late-night phone call from a widow whose husband died hits different when you’re the one who wrote the policy 16 years ago. That moment becomes the heartbeat of our conversation with Brhy Henry and Michael LaMunyon, two producers who’ve lived the sales grind and now apply it to virtual life insurance sales with a focus on clean business, real service, and long-term trust.
We dig into what separates fast starters from frustrated quitters: buying insurance leads with a plan, learning the language of underwriting and health qualifications, and knowing when term life, whole life, or an I...
How to Run Your Own Facebook Ads for Life Insurance Using AI (Ep. 284)
Meta changed the rules for life insurance advertising, and a lot of agents are still trying to win with the old playbook. We sit down with the team behind Life Button to dig into what actually works now that Facebook’s special ads category limits targeting and makes “quality” harder to engineer. The big question we keep coming back to is simple: if targeting is broad, how do you still generate consistent life insurance leads without lighting your ad budget on fire?
We talk through their AI-driven approach to lead generation, built on years of ad performance data a...
This 26-Year-Old Left Amazon Selling to Build a Massive Insurance Agency (Ep. 283)
A lot of people say life insurance is “hard” or “awkward” until they see what a clean system does to a brand-new agent’s results. We talk with Cliff Judeh about going from an Amazon FBA and FBM hustle to building real momentum in life insurance sales, including the early weeks that humbled him, the 90-day breakthrough that flipped the switch, and the habits that helped him stack consistent income without blowing it on lifestyle.
We get specific about the mechanics: a boot camp that forces repetition, daily script training, objection handling, and a culture that keeps agents hun...
How Front Line Financial Became FFL's Fastest-Scaling Agency (Ep. 282)
One bad month can expose a fake business model. A brutal season can also prove you’re building something real. We sit down with Tyler Ortiz and Rob Kakish to talk through what it looks like when an insurance agency grows fast, hits turbulence, and still finds a way to rebuild from zero with more speed and more discipline than before.
We get specific on the captive vs broker question that floods the internet. Tyler lays out what “captive insurance” actually means, why the promise of free leads can become a trap, and how comp, freedom, and produc...
What Most Agents Get Wrong About IULs (Ep. 281)
A 23-year-old writing $145,000 of target premium in a single month sounds like hype until you hear how Keenan Stockling actually does it. We talk through the unglamorous parts most people skip: getting uncomfortable, learning the contract, and structuring indexed universal life insurance the right way even when it means taking less commission. If you’ve ever wondered why some IULs perform well and others turn into disappointment, this conversation puts the spotlight where it belongs: the design, the illustration, and the client’s real goal.
We break down cash value life insurance in plain language, including how Keen...
He Had the "Dream Job", the Money, and the Lifestyle—Then Started Over (Ep. 280)
You can have the title, the income, the “cool” city, and the shiny lifestyle and still be falling apart behind the scenes. Charles Keller joins us to tell the honest version: corporate medical device sales in Miami, six-figure earnings, and a life that looked great on the outside while debt, stress, and compulsive habits quietly took over.
We get into what changed when he found the independent life insurance model at Family First Life, and why the real prize wasn’t just higher commissions, it was autonomy. We talk sales mindset, making a clean decision, and what it tak...
The Habits Behind Consistent Insurance Producers (Ep. 279)
You can tell when a team is built on more than hype: they wake up early, they outwork the excuses, and they don’t crumble when commissions swing. We sit down with Nick Novo and three of his young killers who are already putting up 30k to 50k months in life insurance, and we go way past surface-level “sales tips” into what actually creates consistency in mortgage protection and insurance agency growth.
We talk about the real pressures most agents hide: anxiety, slow deposits, chargebacks, transitions between IMOs, and the temptation to cope by checking out on social...
How to Survive the Emotional Roller Coaster of Insurance Sales (Ep. 276)
You can tell a lot about a sales leader by what they do when the path gets messy. Nick Novo left when his upline left, took on two years of adversity, then came back and started stacking his biggest months ever, with his team pacing $450,000. We talk honestly about what that kind of growth actually requires: mental toughness, a clean culture, and the willingness to keep working when the results are not flattering.
We also go deep on the day-to-day reality of life insurance sales. Why does it feel like an emotional roller coaster? How do you...
The Blueprint Top Producers Use to Survive Insurance Sales (Ep. 275)
A messy breakup turns into an unexpected masterclass on discipline, boundaries, and using emotion as fuel and then the conversation shifts into what real high performance looks like in life insurance. We’re joined by Madison McGill (85,000 issue paid in a single month) and Tré Howe (148,000 issue paid in a single month) to talk about the unglamorous habits behind big numbers: dialing when you feel off, staying consistent through slow weeks, and keeping your confidence intact when the phone bites back.
We get specific about the stuff that actually moves the needle for a life insurance agent: lead...
The Viral Personality Behind the Fastest Agency to Hit $1M in a Month (Ep. 274)
A million-dollar month sounds like a highlight reel, but we get into the unglamorous details that actually create it: tracked deposits, lead spend, consistent dials, and leaders who can prove performance with numbers. We sit down with Edmund Coutan, along with Giovanna Hilton, and we start by putting real production on the table from their team so you can see what “documentation beats conversation” looks like in the wild.
From there, we go deep on the mechanics of scaling a life insurance agency inside an IMO: when to hire staff, why onboarding and quality control matter, and how t...
How to Keep More Clients and Build Real Renewals (Ep. 273)
98% persistency is not luck, and it’s not “better leads.” It’s a set of choices made on every call and we break those choices down with two young producers who are already putting up serious numbers. Vince Knowles (best month $66k) and Ernie Aguirre (best month $68k) join us with their mentors Morgan and Ryan to talk about what actually keeps policies in force and builds a real book of business.
We dig into the stuff new agents hear nonstop but rarely understand: ownership in life insurance, how carrier appointments and renewals work, what an advance really me...
The Former Baseball Player Writing 70 Insurance Apps a Month (Ep. 278)
You can hear the moment when “I’ll figure it out” turns into “I’m not quitting.” Nick Coello joins us to unpack how he went from a college baseball trajectory and working brutal jobs to becoming a fast-rising life insurance producer, hitting a $72K month and calling $15K take-home profit a “bad month.” The best part is that it’s not framed as luck or a secret script. It’s reps, discipline, and learning how to stay steady when the phones get ugly.
We talk openly about what most insurance content dances around: the gap between issue-paid numbers a...
From D2D Solar Sales to Making $300K in 6 Months (Ep. 272)
Two agents walk into the insurance world and within months they’re flirting with $100k issue-paid months. That sounds unbelievable until you hear how they’re thinking, how they’re running leads, and how they’re handling the parts nobody brags about: the first 60 to 90 days, the awkward “I’m new” phase, and the gut-punch of chargebacks if you don’t run your numbers like a real business.
We talk with Steven Lyman and Kyle Marshall about why experienced salespeople from solar, mortgages, car sales, real estate, pest control, and high-ticket phone sales are making the switch to life insuranc...
How to Sell More Mortgage Protection in 2026 (Ep. 277)
He was 21, already producing at a level most agents never touch, then a single decision flipped the whole trajectory. Adrian Sardinas joins us to talk through what happened when he left a winning situation out of loyalty, what it cost him in real dollars, and why coming back with the right systems and carriers instantly changed everything.
We get honest about the stuff people argue about online: choosing an IMO, rumors about whether agents get paid, and why “belief” is not enough if your speed to pay, product access, and lead strategy are broken. Adrian shares what he n...
This Could Change Life Insurance Sales Forever (Ep. 271)
Your phone rings and the person on the other end actually wants life insurance. That’s the shift we’re betting on, and it’s why we’re partnering with Ringba to bring inbound pay-per-call leads to more agents who are tired of endless outbound dialing, no-shows, and “spam likely” blocks.
We bring on the team behind the Ringba Exchange and stack the episode with real testimonials from agents using inbound final expense and simplified issue calls. You’ll hear what changes when you stop burning hours trying to reach people and start focusing on qualification, service, and clean clos...
From Depression and Debt to a Life-Changing Comeback (Ep. 270)
Greg Wood went from a comfortable sales career to a season where credit cards were maxed out, sleep was scarce, and he was delivering groceries just to keep food on the table. That’s why his results hit harder now: he’s writing six-figure premium months and building a life insurance career that actually feels stable. We talk through the pivot from traditional sales to the insurance business model and why residual income changes the way you think about time, effort, and freedom.
We also get honest about the part nobody can automate. People don’t “shop” for life i...
How to Sell Life Insurance Over the Phone (Step-by-Step Training) | (Ep. 269)
A 21-year-old submits $102,000 in a month selling life insurance and he does it with one lead type, a dialer, and an almost boring level of consistency. We sit down with Connor Dorsey, Jonathon Fraley, and Tray Honeycutt to get past the hype and into the real mechanics of high-volume phone and Zoom sales: how the day is structured, what gets followed up, and why the same leads can look “terrible” to one agent and “gold” to another.
We talk life insurance leads and lead cost without flinching: Connor spends about $5,000 a week on veteran leads and adds support...
How These Ladies Make Over $400K/Year Before 25 (Ep. 268)
Two of the youngest top producers we’ve had on the mic join us from the Wolfpack world: Kayla Haynes and Alejandra Macias. They’ve each crossed massive personal production numbers in life insurance sales, and they did it without a perfect resume, a perfect start, or a “sales personality.” What they do have is a standard for activity, a ruthless relationship with accountability, and a willingness to be the underdog until the scoreboard changes.
We get specific about what actually creates big months: dialing blocks, long days, leading from the front, and building a replicable system that mak...
He Made $110M in Life Insurance… Then Faced 28 Years in Prison (Ep. 267)
A guy can build an unbelievable career in the life insurance industry and still get blindsided by one decision. James Catledge did everything the “success playbook” promises: sold hard, built a monster team, earned millions through financial services, and lived big. Then a real estate deal went sideways, the headlines got ugly, and the federal government put a number on his life: 28 years if he fought, 11 years if he surrendered.
We dig into what that kind of pressure does to your mind, your marriage, your friendships, and your identity. James walks us through the darkest moments, including the...
The 61-Year-Old Outselling Everyone on $2 Leads (Ep. 266)
One agent takes about 40 inbound calls and writes $30,000. Another agent gets similar calls from the same source and writes nothing. That gap is what we unpack with Gary Michels, one of the top producers in the Las Vegas office, and the conversation gets brutally practical about what actually moves the needle in inbound life insurance sales.
We talk about what an inbound lead really is, how the economics work, and why you cannot judge success by one weird call where someone thinks it’s “free.” Gary explains how he approaches inbound leads as a law-of-averages game, why taking...
Fresh Out of High School… Now They're Top 5% Earners (Ep. 265)
Two teens walk into an insurance office and start producing like veterans. Alex Pirrone (18) and Blaze Henning (19) sit down with us to explain how they ramped fast in life insurance sales, what their biggest months look like, and why the “I’m new” story doesn’t have to be a disadvantage if you build real conviction and stay in motion.
We get into the stuff most people avoid: spending money on leads when it feels scary, handling chargebacks without spiraling, and why your results often match your emotional control more than your script. You’ll hear how they think...
These 20-Year-Olds Are Making $50K/Month in Life Insurance… Here’s How (Ep. 264)
Three life insurance agents in their early 20s are putting up numbers most people don’t touch in a decade and they’re doing it without pretending it’s all “talent.” We sit down with Alexander Silos, Santiago Gonzalez, and Faruk Cancar to get specific about what creates $50,000+ issued months: the standards they live by, the culture they’ve built, and the daily discipline that keeps the phone ringing and the pipeline full.
We talk about the Wolfpack environment, from showing up early to treating energy like a skill, and why a great office can sharpen your habits fast...