VinePair Podcast

Joanna and Zach chronicle pumpkin beer's decline from seasonal harbinger to a regional curiosity: is it about seasonal creep, craft beer decline, or what? Then, they discuss the success that certain cider producers are having at convenience stores and other locations by following in the footsteps (and format) of Voodoo Ranger. Is this a chance for cider to gain ground in the marketplace? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach expand on the topic of massive wine lists and respond to some criticism, then chat about the fact that private dining spaces have become absolutely critical to success for restaurants and even cocktail bars in the current landscape. Is it just about landing clients with big budgets, or is there more to the phenomenon than that? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Adam speaks with Sergio Mendoza, distiller at Don Fulano, about his family's long history in the Tequila business, how they came to launch their lauded tequila brand, some of the specific considerations with highlands agave, and what it's been like living through the tequila boom. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

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We've all been there. You go to a nice restaurant, and the wine list weighs five pounds and would potentially take you hours to sort through. Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss why this approach is anti-hospitality, why it continues to persist, and if there are strategies restaurants can employ that allow them to highlight their sizeable collections without dropping a brick on the table. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for...

With spooky season in full force, Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss the rising importance, both culturally and financially, of Halloween, and speculate about why it is that drinks brands have largely struggled to market to the occasion. Is it a case of an outdated notion that it's still a holiday for kids? The fact that there's not a clearly identified food or meal as a part of the celebration? Why don't we see holiday-themed packaging for every brand that can slap a pumpkin or a black cat on their can or bottle? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach respond to a recent Royal Bank of Canada report that indicates some of the changing ways that alcohol is consumed and discovered, and in particular the fact that at-home drinking occasions, in particular those of a social nature, remain appealing to consumers across a range of demographics, while on-premise drinking appears to be one of the first types cut when budgets get squeezed. Why is it that drinks brands are struggling to market to those drinking occasions? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you...

On this special episode of the podcast, Zach speaks with Kosta Browne winemaker Julien Howsepian about the iconic California producer of Pinot Noir and Chardonnay: how they've grown the portfolio and looked to explore various parts of California through their winemaking, and how they turned their sights on Burgundy in the last half-decade or so. What are some of the opportunities and challenges that come with making wine in two different countries on two different continents? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send...

With VinePair's Next Wave Award winners announced, Adam, Joanna, and Zach celebrate the awardees, discuss how a common thread running through is their ability to create community, and the continued importance of hospitality and optimism in the modern food and drinks landscape. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Zach is drinking: Treveri Cellars 2011 Brut Reserve Blanc de Blancs

Joanna is drinking...

As the drinks landscape continues to evolve, Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss whether brands that develop a strong following in a particular region or part of the country still have as clear a pathway to national appeal as they once did. Are the differences in how Americans drink based on geography and density insurmountable, or does it just require savvier marketing and an understanding of who your target demo is? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions...

On this special episode of the podcast, Adam speaks with Barefoot Wine winemaker Jen Wall about her long history with the brand, how it has grown into one of the largest players in the American wine industry, their ongoing partnership with the National Football League, and their recent launch into TetraPak single-serves. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

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Adam, Joanna, and Zach unpack Constellation's purchase of spiked sports drink brand SpikedAde: is the drinks giant smartly positioning itself to grab share of a small but booming category? Who exactly is the target demographic for these drinks? How pervasive is the "health halo" when it comes to alcoholic beverages and what people choose to drink? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

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In the wake of a bit of a social media firestorm within the bar community, Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss whether there's a backlash coming for The 50 (formerly 50 Best) within that community. Are bartenders who aspire to recognition tiring of the need to work guest shifts at far flung bars, endlessly politick, and generally focus on brand-building and vote-wrangling more than actually making their bars better? Is there a lesson from the past in what's happened to wine scores and reviews? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you...

Zach is joined by Joe O'Sullivan, master distiller at Minden Mill Distillery to discuss the many aspects of their distinctive estate whiskey program. From why the Carson River Valley in Nevada's high desert is a dynamic place to grow grain to the opportunities and challenges of having every aspect of the process under their direct control, it's a look at how forward-thinking and dynamic producers are pushing American whiskey forward in a variety of categories. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any...

In the wake of a recent viral video showing celebrity chef Wolfgang Puck repeatedly calling a specific cocktail "girly," Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss why this outdated and sexist way of classifying drinks remains present in some elements of the drinks industry, what harm it causes, and how in the end it can only serve to deepen some of the struggles that the industry is facing. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss the etiquette of splitting checks: is this something that only young adults can and should do? Is there a threshold point where it becomes acceptable? Do things like Venmo make this better or worse? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Zach is reading: The Bull Case for Sierra Nevada’s Under-the-Radar ‘Hype Brewery’ Line

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Sometimes, it feels like a product needs a brand refresh. A new label, a new design, a new bottle -- something. Yet as Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss, moving away from an established design aesthetic can serve to confuse and even alienate consumers - did you not just change the packaging but the product inside as well? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

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Adam and Zach contemplate whether collecting beer, spirits, and wine has gone from a hobby associated with class and refinement to something that comes off as weirdo behavior. Did craft beer nerds delude themselves into thinking there would be a market for decade-old beer? Are there just too many specialty bottles of whiskey? Do people actually want to drink old wine? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!<...

Recession indicators abound, from robust inflation to consumer sentiment. Within the hospitality industry, it's the rise of all-you-can-eat restaurants and drinks specials. How can bars and restaurants entice wary consumers, and does "value" always have to mean "cheap as hell?" Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Zach is drinking: Project 9 Brewing Czech Dark Lager

Joanna is drinking: CHO Wines "Dreamer's Reserve"...

With recent doomerism about the most popular red grape variety in the world, Adam, Joanna, and Zach take stock of Cabernet Sauvignon - is it in fact going through a bit of an identity crisis, or does its continued status as a red wine behemoth belie those concerns? Additionally, can producers and regions that built their success on the backs of a bold, ripe, assertive style of Cabernet actually pivot to more restrained, lighter styles, or will they make everyone unhappy. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you...

With Adam back from his European adventures, he, Joanna, and Zach discuss whether America's general dismissal of hotel bars as nothing more than places for mediocre drinks and clandestine assignations is changeable. If Londoners can continue to view hotel bars as legitimate spots for top cocktail bars, why can't Americans? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Zach is drinking: Ashes & Diamonds "Saffron Vineyard" Cabernet...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach ponder Grupo Campari's latest stateside foray into the spritz space - SARTI Rosa. Can this new aperitivo further expand their hold on the spritz category? Why do they think this flavor (blood orange, mango, passionfruit) and color (pink) are the right ones for the market? Is it kind of weird to be launching a spritz in September? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!<...

Inspired by a couple of recent pieces about restaurant green and red flags, Joanna and Zach are joined by VinePair contributor Dave Foss to discuss some of their red and green flags on restaurant menus and when they sit down to dine. From a cohesive menu to considered pricing to...soup (?), what are the signs that you're in the right (or wrong) spot? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening...

In the wake of yet another flare-up in the trade war/war of words between the United States and Canada, Joanna and Zach discuss the current state of Canada's boycott of American drinks, and ponder what it will take to get those brands back into the Canadian market if relations ever normalize. Will Canadian drinkers re-embrace drinking American, or will years of bad blood and changed habits make it much harder for future efforts? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions...

Joanna and Zach are joined by VinePair managing editor Hannah Staab to discuss the merits and ethics of the "secret" wine list: special bottles that for one reason or another aren't listed normally, but might be available if you know the right person or ask the right question (or stalk the wine bar on Instagram). Is this a harmless and fun way to reward wine lovers and devotees, or is it yet another way to promote snobbery and elitism within wine? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you...

Joanna and Zach discuss a recent survey that found that many would-be wine drinkers, particularly younger ones, are put off by the rules, traditions, and lack of customization that seem endemic to the category. While totally forswearing tradition seems like a losing play, can wine producers, professionals, and vendors find ways to bring a bit more playfulness and flexibility to wine? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!<...

Joanna and Zach are joined by VinePair spirits editor Aaron Goldfarb to discuss the rise of so-called "weird" spirits, particularly unusual or unexpected flavors in established categories like gin, vodka, and whiskey. Who is the target market for these bottles: curious consumers, bartenders, or what? Will spirits that are targeted at a very specific cocktail or food pairing find a home on back bars or is that a tough sell to bars that are used to a more DIY approach? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get...

Joanna and Zach discuss how American winemakers and grape growers should react to consumer preferences swinging more towards white wines and more decisively away from full-bodied red wines. While the latter have been the backbone of the domestic industry at all price levels, will changing tastes, changing foodways, and changing conditions force US producers to not just make more white wine, but make more high-end white wine? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to podcast@vinepair...

Adam and Joanna respond to a couple of hospitality hot takes: first, is it a betrayal of your customers to close earlier than your posted hours, even if business is slow? With labor costs at an all-time high, how should a restaurant or bar balance the need to remain cost-efficient with the fact that few things can turn off a potential customer more than showing up during posted hours only to be told that the kitchen is closed or the establishment itself has called it for the night? Secondly, if you go out with friends who turn out to...

Adam and Joanna discuss some of the more intriguing parts of Diageo's recently-announced plans to change and modernize their approach, from finally taking RTDs seriously to expanding their focus to some of their more value-oriented brands. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Joanna is reading: A Timeline of the Bar Industry’s Darling Spirits

Adam is reading: NYC Insiders Club Jean’s De...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss a recent occurrence while filming The Wait - a trendy NYC restaurant telling people to come back at 11 pm for dinner and then informing them when they did come back that the kitchen was closed. Was this just a random bit of bad hospitality or a perhaps ill-founded attempt to make this restaurant feel more exclusive and pretentious? Who does that kind of pretention appeal to, anyhow? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach take a look at another reason why wine is struggling in restaurants: the drinking public is unable to perceive value with much of what's on offer. While restaurants decry the high prices that wineries and distributors charge, and producers and drinkers cringe at the major markups restaurants apply to wine, is it possible that there's another solution besides just "someone gets screwed over?" Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to podcast@vinepair...

With Joanna back from Scotland, she rejoins Adam and Zach to discuss her takeaways from visiting Panda & Sons, the iconic and world-class bar in Edinburgh. Do bars at that level tend to seem more similar than you'd think given that they're located in countries around the world? How tough is it to balance trying to be a place that locals might go to with being such a tourist destination? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to...

Wine has long relied on tradition to sell itself: traditions surrounding wine producers and regions, traditions surrounding drinking occasions and traditions surrounding how all of that is used to market wine. Yet do those stories still matter to consumers? Do they get people excited about wine, or do they serve as barriers that keep some people out of the category? Adam and Zach discuss all that and more in this week's episode. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques...

Adam and Zach discuss two recent studies, the first of which shows that, surprise, Gen Z is drinking at historically normal rates, despite all the misplaced doom and gloom around the generation. Why were so many invested in the myth that Gen Z doesn't drink, and how should producers and marketers be rethinking their strategy. Plus, another study explores what drinkers really value, and how being consistent in terms of messaging and price can be more effective than chasing trends. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get...

Adam and Zach discuss some of Adam's takeaways from hosting The Buildout, in particular about the tremendous importance of hospitality, and on making the guest experience welcoming and accommodating, as well as the need to be willing to change your concept, why you have to know your marketplace very well, and more. Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

Zach is reading: Monarch Tractors Promised...

Adam, Joanna, and Zach are joined by VinePair spirits editor Aaron Goldfarb to discuss his recent list of the best vodkas, as well as how drinkers are relating to the spirit these days. Has the rise of the Martini, and particularly the Dirty Martini, given it a new relevance? Can cocktail bars find a role for vodka beyond either the classics or the "fruity/sweet" paradigm? Are producers doing anything interesting or innovative? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments...

In the wake of the recently-announced "Sauvy B" from Trinchero Family Wine and Spirits and famed winemaker Joel Gott, Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss whether wine-based RTDs, particularly those that proclaim their wine affiliations proudly, can serve as a bridge, particularly for younger drinkers, from RTDs to wine, especially bottled wine. Will loving a Sauvignon Blanc-based canned spritz eventually convince someone to order a glass of wine at a restaurant, or pick up a bottle to have at home? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your...

Adam and Joanna discuss whether companies that are making obvious dupes or copies of popular drinks are being smart or just trying to cash in on a trend. Can you copy and become more premium? Does it matter if the packaging is nearly identical? Does it matter what part of the drinks space you're in? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

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Adam and Joanna respond to a listener question: are RTDs actually a fad? Despite emerging in the late 2010s and becoming a significant part of the beverage alcohol industry in the 2020s, is it possible that they don't have staying power, or have they shown that there's a significant audience for convenience, flavor, and accessibility? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to [email protected]. Thanks for listening, and cheers!

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Adam, Joanna, and Zach discuss the renewed speculation that Jack Daniels manufacturer Brown-Forman might be for sale: while the family-owned company rejected two reported offers in April, rumors continue to swirl that they're on the market. Will Pernod-Ricard or Sazerac remain interested? Which drinks company makes the most sense as an acquirer, and how can they attempt to rebuild and grow the brand, especially outside the United States? Please remember to subscribe to, rate, and review The VinePair Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your episodes, and send any questions, comments, critiques, or suggestions to podcast...