4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

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You've laughed with Tim Hawkins for years—but today, you get to meet the man behind the comedy.

In episode 413 of the 4:13 Podcast (wink!), Tim shares the story behind his journey into comedy, the failures that shaped him, and what he's learned about making people laugh. And (spoiler alert!) it's not about being witty or delivering the perfect punchline.

You'll also find out how he decides which jokes become part of his routines (including his popular song parodies), which topics don't make the cut, and how hi...

What if the most meaningful moments of your year weren't the big milestones—but the ordinary ones you almost missed? In this special bonus episode, I'm inviting you to slow down, pay attention, and look at life differently. 

As we flip through some of my favorite "audio pictures" from 2025, I'm bringing you into my world to show you how everyday moments can become sacred memories when we choose to notice them.

You'll hear moments from ministry travels, laughter with my BFFs, practicing a dance with my son before his wedding, my prayer plant rescue mission, and...

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Delighting in God changes everything. It changes how you experience faith, relationships, and even your circumstances. But what if you've lost your delight in God—or what if you've never really experienced it in the first place?

Well today on the 4:13, Stephanie Rousselle explores what it really means to "delight yourself in the Lord" (Psalm 37:4). She shares her remarkable journey from atheism to faith and explains how her French background gave her a fresh understanding of what it truly means to "taste and see that the Lord is go...

Come along as I take you on a journey through Ireland. But there's no passport required for this trip because in this special BONUS episode, we're going there with our ears. 

Instead of sharing photos, I'm sharing "audio pictures"—the recordings I make to capture the moments around me. As someone who is blind, these little audio snapshots help me revisit memories without being able to see them, and today, you'll get to experience them with me.

From the lively streets of Dublin and Belfast to the breathtaking Giant's Causeway and places connected with C.S...

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Are you a morning person? Well, what if I told you we're ALL morning people? Hmm…

Today on the 4:13, author Jennifer Dukes Lee shares what she discovered after studying more than 200 mornings in Scripture—and her findings just might change the way you think about mornings altogether.

You'll learn the difference between a morning routine and a morning ritual, why God's mercies really can reshape your day, and how to create a morning practice that fits your personality and season of life.

Plus, you'll disc...

Have you ever heard of emotional hoarding? It's when we not only carry the emotional baggage that weighs us down—we stockpile it, nurture it, and refuse to let it go.

So, today on the 4:13, author Laurie Davies explains how unresolved emotions can quietly affect our relationships, our spiritual lives, and even our physical health. She unpacks the hidden dangers of holding on to emotions like worry, regret, dread, and bitterness—and why they can become so familiar that we don't even recognize their hold on us.

But Laurie doesn't just help you identify the clut...

You've probably heard the Prayer of St. Francis—but did St. Francis actually write it? Hmm… well, today you're going to find out. 

On this episode of 4:13, author and pastor Mark DeYmaz explores the beloved Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi and why its message is just as powerful and relevant today as ever. 

He explains how this timeless prayer can become a practical guide for navigating conflict, division, and tension in our relationships and communities, revealing that prayer isn't passive at all—it can be deeply disruptive.

So, if you've ever wondered what it...

Suffering. Grief. Disappointment. Loss. Any one of these can shake us to our core. So how are we supposed to trust God when everything seems to go wrong?

On this episode, Anne Graham Lotz (daughter of Billy Graham) and her daughter, Rachel-Ruth Lotz Wright, walk through the story of Joseph—a man who experienced betrayal, false accusation, and unfair circumstances that turned his life upside down.

So how did Joseph remain steadfast in his faith?

Anne and Rachel-Ruth explain how God's presence brings peace even in life's deepest pits. You'll discover why suffering is...

Our souls long for less of us and more of God. For less of this broken world and more of Jesus' abundant life. Put simply… for revival. 

So in this episode, author and podcaster Lisa Whittle shares the freedom that comes from surrendering to God—releasing your need for comfort, control, approval, and even blessings. You'll see how offering everything to God brings the renewed spiritual vitality we all crave.

Because often, it's the very things we see as good that slowly pull our hearts away from God and lead to spiritual drift.

So if...

We talk to ourselves all day long—often without even realizing it. And while we may not be able to turn off the constant chatter happening inside our minds, we can learn to change the conversation.

In this episode, author and Moody Radio host Jon Gauger shares how self-talk can be either destructive or redemptive, depending on whether you speak lies or biblical truth to yourself.

So today, Jon will teach you how to identify the lies you're believing, replace them with Scripture, and invite God to renew your thinking. You'll also hear practical ways to...

Have you ever caught yourself being a little… judgy? It's no secret—judgment is everywhere these days, even in the church. But aren't we also supposed to use good judgment?

It's tricky, right? Well today, you're going to get biblical clarity on how to use good judgment without being judgmental.

Shannon Popkin is back on the podcast to help you understand the difference between healthy discernment and being kinda judgy. You'll learn what Jesus actually meant in Matthew 7 when He said, "Judge not," how personal convictions can get in the way of judging rightly, and what...

Have you ever felt the passion in your faith slowly fading?

Maybe there was a time when you couldn't wait to open your Bible, go to church, or talk about God. But somewhere along the way, your fire went out. Your enthusiasm faded. And now? You're in a spiritual funk—maybe even numb.

Well today, Dallas Theological Seminary President, Dr. Mark Yarbrough, joins us for a deeply honest and hope-filled conversation about what it means to revive a faith that's grown cold.

Mark explains why every believer is vulnerable to drifting spiritually—whether it's...

Sometimes you need to look back and see God in your past to help you trust Him for your future. 

In this episode, author and speaker Laurie Polich Short will show you how what felt like a detour may have actually been divine direction. Whether you've experienced closed doors, extended seasons of waiting, or deep disappointment, you'll be reminded that God is present in every part of your story.

Laurie will help you trace God's fingerprints all throughout your life—even in the moments that were confusing, painful, or unexpected—and invite you to release your...

What if the Jesus you know has been shaped more by culture than by Scripture?

All too often, we create a customized Jesus to fit our preferences instead of following the true Jesus revealed in God's Word. And without even realizing it, He becomes the Lord of our comfort and convenience instead of the Lord of our lives.

So today, pastor and bestselling author Kyle Idleman will give us a clear understanding of who Jesus is as Messiah and King! He'll unpack how our view of Jesus can quietly drift, how to recognize when we've...

In this very special BONUS episode, I'm sitting on the front porch with my beautiful mom, Judith Jolly. She's a vibrant 84-year-old who raised me and helped shape who I am today—but more than that, she leaves a lasting impact on everyone she meets.

You'll hear us talk about the importance of genuine community, how her experiences during World War II shaped her perspective, and the values that stand the test of time. She also shares timeless wisdom on being authentic, taking initiative in forming relationships, loving neighbors and strangers alike, and finding joy in everyday li...

In this episode, Pastor Chip Ingram will challenge the way you think about love! Because, contrary to popular belief, love is much more than a feeling or an emotion, and it isn't something that just happens to you; it's something you choose.

Chip explains what love really is (and isn't), how to decipher between love and your feelings, and how you can love others even when you don't feel like it—or when they really don't deserve it. Plus, you'll find out if you suffer from grandiosity… as he did. 

Not sure what grandiosity is? Liste...

Angels show up all throughout Scripture—from the garden of Eden to the empty tomb. But despite their biblical presence, many of our ideas about angels have been shaped more by culture than by truth.

So today, author and Bible teacher Melissa Spoelstra will set the record straight.

Drawing from her in-depth study of angels in the Bible, Melissa unpacks who angels really are, what they do, and why understanding them matters for your faith today. She addresses common myths and misconceptions, explores questions like guardian angels and "the Angel of the Lord," and explains ho...

What do you do when your story feels too broken to redeem?

That's exactly where Mary DeMuth found herself—carrying the deep pain of childhood trauma, abuse, and brokenness. It's a story she never would have chosen. But today, she celebrates a God who rewrites, redeems, and restores every story.

In this conversation, Mary will help you discover how Jesus meets you in your past, transforms your present, and sets a new course for your future. Because no part of your story is beyond His redemption.

So if you're wrestling with shame, feeling st...

Life is busy. Between work, family, and everything else on your plate, consistent Bible reading, prayer, and quiet time can feel out of reach.

But growing your faith doesn't require a complete life overhaul! Instead, you can develop "seed habits"—small, simple practices that fit naturally into your everyday routines. 

Joining me today is author Hannah Seymour who shares a refreshing, practical approach to spiritual growth by combining the science of habit formation with the power of spiritual disciplines. From your kitchen to your commute, you'll learn how to build meaningful rhythms with God in the...

What comes to mind when you think of self-care? Massages? Facials? Maybe a nap? While those are all good things, the truth is they won't sustain us in the long run.

So today, pastor and theologian Dr. Benjamin Espinoza invites you to rethink self-care. He'll help you see that true self-care goes far beyond any surface-level indulgences and is actually deeply rooted in your relationship with God.

You'll see why caring for yourself is essential in caring for others and how something as simple as play can make a big difference. Plus, he'll help you...

In the middle of this Holy Week, we're sharing a special episode to help you pause and prepare your heart for the celebration of Jesus' resurrection.

We know it's easy to get caught up in the busyness of the holiday, so these Easter reflections will invite you to slow down and simply behold the Lamb—because whatever you behold, you will be held by. Plus, Layne Victoria sings over you a beautiful worship song that will reorient your heart and help you rejoice in the risen Savior! 

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Spiritual warfare can feel mysterious, confusing, or even intimidating! But what does the Bible actually say about it—and why do we need to know?

Well today on the 4:13, author and theologian Dr. Joel Muddamalle unpacks spiritual warfare through a biblical lens that will cut through the confusion. He tackles some intriguing and often misunderstood topics—such as the Nephilim—and reveals how all spiritual conflict originated from three key rebellions in Genesis.

But this conversation isn't just theological—it's deeply practical! 

Joel connects these ancient events to the very real, everyday battles believers...

God didn't create you just to survive—He created you to flourish!

In this episode of the 4:13, Bible teacher Christine Caine shares how you can thrive in every season of life—even the hardest ones—by grounding yourself in God's unchanging truth. Using the biblical imagery of the olive tree, Christine explains how pruning can be restorative, pressing can produce the good stuff, and abiding in Christ leads to resilient, evergreen faith.

So, if you're feeling weary, stretched, or spiritually dry, listen in! This conversation will equip you to grow deep spiritual roots, bear lasting fruit...

Shannon Bream—the number one New York Times bestselling author of The Women of the Bible Speak series—is with us today, and she's got just what you need if you're facing something that feels impossible.

On today's episode, Shannon will chronicle some unlikely biblical heroes whose stories mirror our own struggles and teach us about overcoming seemingly impossible situations. Plus, Shannon vulnerably shares her own impossible, and you will be blown away by God's grace and her perseverance!

This conversation will comfort, inspire, and equip you for all that you face because—the truth is—not...

Last week, we flipped the mic and you got to hear my two sons interview me! If you joined us, you know this conversation only scratched the surface about ministry, blindness, writing, and speaking.

So today, we're picking right back up where we left off and going deeper into the story behind the ministry and the heart behind the microphone!

In Part Two of this special miniseries, the questions turn more personal as we talk about how C.S. Lewis found his way into my life during a season of depression—and how his words he...

For the last five years on the 4:13—and for the last eighteen years at Fresh Grounded Faith conferences—you've heard me spill the beans and interview incredible guests! But today, we're doing something we have never done before!

My two sons asked if they could turn the tables and interview me—to talk about the story behind the ministry and the heart behind the microphone. They wanted to unpack my life, my calling, and the journey that led us here. So, in this two-part miniseries, we're officially flipping the mic. 

As my boys ask the questio...

On today's episode, historian Joseph Loconte takes us inside the lives and friendship of J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, two of the most influential Christian writers of the last century. 

Amid the devastation of World War II, their imaginative writing provided a vision of reality—one grounded in truth, valor, and virtue. It's through their stories that Tolkien and Lewis offered far more than escape, but a blueprint for resilience in times of crisis.

Joseph shares how looking at the world through the eyes of these two men can reveal the beauty and...

You may know your love language—but what if you're speaking it with the wrong accent?

Dr. Gary Chapman has helped more than 150 million people discover their "love language," but knowing the language is just the beginning. That's because each love language has dialects! Miss the dialect, and even the right language can fall flat.

So today, Gary joins me to share why love so often gets lost in translation and how learning to speak the right dialect at the right time is key to a deeper connection.

Whether you're dating, married, or se...

When you picture Heaven, what comes to mind? Harps, halos, pearly gates, and endless singing? If that's all Heaven is, it can seem quite disconnected from our lives today. But fortunately, Scripture paints a far richer and more relevant picture.

In this conversation, Pastor Philip De Courcy invites you to rethink everything you assume about eternity. Drawing deeply from God's Word, Philip answers big questions like…

What is Heaven—really? 
Where do believers go when they die?
What will we do in Heaven?
Why do even nonbelievers feel a longing for eternity?

The practice of waking early to seek God in prayer is woven into the fabric of Scripture. But... what if you're not a morning person?

Oh friend, I get it! But whether you greet the sunrise with joy or hit snooze like it's your spiritual gift, today you'll be challenged to rethink what's possible with God.

Joining me on the 4:13 is author Tara Beth Leach who shares why mornings matter, how even night owls or those with busy schedules can make space for God, and what it looks like to build a structured yet flexible...

When Lysa TerKeurst experienced the painful, unwanted end of her nearly 30-year marriage, she found herself asking hard questions and searching Scripture for real answers. She didn't just need comfort—she needed clarity, truth, and a way forward.

On today's episode of the 4:13, Lysa shares the resource she wishes she had during that season and tackles some of the most difficult questions many women quietly carry: Does God hate divorce? How do I move forward when I'm still angry? How do I rebuild a life I never envisioned?

She'll walk you through what the Bible sa...

Do you ever feel let down in your daily experience as a Christian? You're not alone. Pastor and bestselling author Gary Thomas understands that frustration—which he says often comes from believing lies we don't even realize we've embraced.

Today on the 4:13, Gary unpacks the subtle deceptions that quietly shape our expectations, steal our joy, and keep us from the abundant life God promises. He reveals 12 common lies many Christians believe and—using Scripture—helps you recognize those lies and replace them with truth.

You'll learn to discern the trap of a self-centered salvation, why a fami...

You may know Nicole C. Mullen as an incredible singer-songwriter, but did you know she's also a certified Bible nerd? That's right! And she not only knows the Word, but she can teach it too, bringing it to life in a powerful, practical way.

So today on the 4:13, Nicole takes us into Scripture to remind us that it's never wrong to do the right thing—even when it's difficult or costly.

Because, let's be honest, none of us are perfect, and we don't always make the wisest choices. But no matter what decisions you've made or...

Before we rush into the new year, KC and I are taking a moment to look back on 2025 — the fun moments, the hard moments, the lessons learned (and unlearned), and the ways God has faithfully carried us through it all.

We hope this conversation inspires you to reflect on your own year, celebrate what God has done, and step forward with expectancy for all He has ahead.

Happy New Year! 🎉

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This is a very merry episode of the 4:13 Podcast today because … it's Christmas, and we want to sprinkle a little extra joy into your celebration! 

We're talking about the wonder and joy of Christmas—but also the mess of Christmas, because let's be real, it can get a little messy, right? So, we'll laugh together, share a few stories, and remind your heart that Jesus shows up right in the middle of the mess to bring you hope and peace!

And to top it off, we're ending this episode with a very special song called "HOPE...

We are deeply relational people, longing to be connected and known. That's how we were created! Yet despite having endless ways to connect these days, loneliness is on the rise.

So today on the 4:13, author Alli Patterson addresses the loneliness epidemic and breaks down how you can build relationships that actually nourish your soul! But here's the best part… 

Alli went straight to God's Word to learn what the Gospels reveal about Jesus and His relationships. And what she discovered is fascinating!

She'll walk you through the five essential relationship types Jesus built dur...

Are you feeling overwhelmed by out-of-control thoughts, consuming worry, or the nagging weight of guilt? Well, I've got good news: Your thoughts don't have to control your life! Instead, you can tame those thoughts, and here to help you do it is "America's Pastor," Max Lucado.

Through Scripture and biblical wisdom, Max will teach you how to renew your mind and change your thinking—one thought at a time. He tackles common thought struggles like anxiety and guilt, and he offers practical tools to help you rewire those unruly thought patterns, including a tool for identifying UFOs!

When life gets hard—really hard—it can be tempting to throw in the towel. But today you're going to hear an incredibly powerful testimony of why you shouldn't. 

Pastor Shawn Johnson talks about how he received a devastating brain disease diagnosis that left him wrestling with despair, doubt, and the desire to give up on everything, including his faith and his future. But through vulnerability, community, and choosing to worship even in the middle of his pain, Shawn discovered that joy can coexist with suffering.

He'll give you three reasons to keep fighting as well...

Thanksgiving may come once a year, but thankfulness is for every day. So in this special edition of the 4:13, we're looking at what Scripture says about cultivating an attitude of gratitude—not just today, but always!

We hope you'll meditate on these verses and let them shape your perspective—no matter what season you're in—because there's an abundance of joy that comes from a heart full of gratitude!

So, while you're in the kitchen preparing a meal or driving to see friends and family, listen in and let us be your Thanksgiving soundtrack.

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Empathy is often misunderstood, even maligned. But the truth is—it's one of the most powerful ways to experience healthier emotions and stronger relationships. True empathy isn't about coddling or rescuing; it's about understanding and care that respects God's truth and empowers personal responsibility.

Today on the 4:13, Bill and Kristi Gaultiere share biblical and psychological insights into what empathy really is. You'll discover what Scripture says about empathy, how Jesus models it, and why showing empathy to yourself isn't selfish, but essential. You'll also get practical steps for growing in empathy toward others and learn how receiving em...