MonsterTalk
MonsterTalk: The Science Show About Monsters is a free audio podcast that critically examines the science behind cryptozoological (and legendary) creatures, such as Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, or werewolves.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/monstertalk--6267523/support.
Flashback: Doctor Atlantis - with Ken Feder

Flashback to May 2015:
IS THERE A LOST CITY somewhere that formed the basis of the legend of Atlantis? Dr. Kenny Feder returns, not to praise Atlantis, but to bury it.
Kenny Feder: Selected Works
The Past in Perspective
Frauds, Myths and Mysteries
Linking to the Past
Related Links
Atlantis by Donovan
Podcast — Archeology Fantasies
In Search Of… Atlantis
Music
Monstertalk Theme: Monster by Peach Stealing Monkeys
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Flashback: The Warren Omission

We will be playing some episodes from our archives for a few weeks this Summer - let's kick it off with this classic from October 2013! THE WARREN OMISSION.WAS THE STORY OF The Conjuring the true story of how Ed and Lorraine Warren fought demonic forces in Rhode Island? In this special episode of MonsterTalk, we hear a different side to the story of America’s first family of ghost hunting. Features interviews with investigators Joe Nickell and Steven Novella.
Full Notes
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S04E37 High Weirdness with Erik Davis

We're joined by Erik Davis to discuss his book High Weirdness - a history of psychedelics and counterculture as a triptych embodied with three prominent figures: Terrence McKenna, Philip K. Dick, and Robert Anton Wilson. From Blade Runner to the Illuminati to Magic Mushrooms these three laid down foundational blocks decades ago that underpin (or perhaps undermine?) our present.
Terrence McKenna
Philip K. Dick
Robert Anton Wilson
Pyrrho - ancient Greek skeptic
Our coverage of Operation Mindf*ck (part 1 and part 2)
Erik Davis links:
Burning Shore (Substack)
S04E36 – Nefarious Stealth Evangelicalism?

We’re joined by Matt Baxter to discuss what we thought was a horror film but turned out to be something quite different.Warning: This film and episode deal with suicide, murder, abortion, politics, religion, and pretty much most of the hot potato topics we generally try to eschew. Hopefully we do a decent job of discussing it.
Nefarious (streaming) – Affiliate Link
More on Blaze Media
Some reviews:
7th Day Adventist review
A Christian review with interesting comments
Reddit tackles Nefarious
Horror Obsessive – really didn’t care for the “b...
S04E35 - Dread Bothy and Beyond

Matt Baxter returns to join Karen and Blake in a discussion of allegedly haunted “bothies” in the remote hiking regions of the UK. This episode contains some discussion of guns, suicide, and cannibalism.
Links to further reading/listening:
What is a “bothy?”
Mountain Bothy Association
BBC’s Uncanny episodes we mention:
Don’t Sleep in this House – December 2021
Return to Luibeilt Christmas Special 2024
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S04E34 - The Murder that Inspired Twin Peaks

Jerry Drake returns to discuss his new book:
Hazel was a Good Girl: The Murder that Inspired Twin Peaks
Jerry has been with quite a few times to discuss Grimoires, Jack Parsons, The Hollow Earth, Internet Mysteries and Ghost Lights and we're excited to see what he makes of this real life unsolved murder with ties to one of the most influential shows to ever air on TV.
This episode does discuss murder, sexual assault, and other sensitive topics. It's not really explicit but it might not be suitable for children, hence the tag.
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S04E33 - BigFootage: The Secret of Bigfoot pt 2

We're back with part two of our 2-part coverage of the 1976 episode of The Six Million Dollar Man that introduced a generation of kids to Bigfoot, and the idea that the creature might be interconnected with space aliens living inside a California mountain.Related
Links:
The Bionic Book by Herbie Pilato (affiliate link)
Operation Plowshare
The Six Million Dollar Man series (DVD)
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S04E32 - BigFootage: The Secret of Bigfoot pt 1

Karen joins Blake to discuss the influential 2-part episodes of The Six Million Dollar Man that introduced a generation of kids to Bigfoot, and the idea that the creature might be interconnected with space aliens living inside a California mountain.
This is part one of a two-part special edition.
The patron edition has extended footage and no modern commercials.
Extensive show notes available here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/128686370?forSale=true
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S04E31 - Catching Up May 2025

Blake and Karen take a minute to catch their breath and talk about where things are in their lives and what's up next in MonsterTalk news.
Links:
Bitch: The Journey of a Word
Adhesive Capsulitis
Idiopathic Illnesses
Mechanical Turk
Speaking Machine
Replica of Speaking Machine (YouTube)
Wolfgang von Kempelen
Deep Mind
Deep Blue
Marvin Minsky
John McCarthy
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S04E30 Dinos & Dragons - Part 2

This is part two of our two part look at Dragons and how these mythical beasts are being used to promote Creationism. Our guest is Dr. Philip Senter and he's the author of a new book about this topic. We use the word bullsh!t a lot in this episode so I slapped an explicit tag on - but I don't think it's too explicit otherwise.
Get Dr. Senter's book here: The Real Story of Dinosaurs and Dragons
News story about Mokele Mbembe being compromised by Creationists
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S04E29 - Dinos & Dragons - Part 1

This is part one of our two part look at Dragons and how these mythical beasts are being used to promote Creationism. Our guest is Dr. Philip Senter and he's the author of a new book about this topic.
Get Dr. Senter's book here: The Real Story of Dinosaurs and Dragons
Read more about "The Dragon of Bologna"
Another Book about fake historical zoological specimens
The National Center for Science Education has long been a source for how to take action to combat the injection of Creationist material into public education.
S04E28 The Victor Hotel Ghost

Matt & Karen went out for a little getaway weekend to Victor, Colorado and ended up investigating the allegedly haunted Victor Hotel. Did Eddie die in the hotel elevator? Was Matt caught in embarrassing circumstances? Find out inside!
The show notes here won't show the images so you'll need to hop over to our episode webpage to see them.
https://www.monstertalk.org/s04e28-the-victor-hotel-ghost/
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S04E27 - Jewish Mysticism and Dybbuks with Peter Bebergal

We're excited to welcome back Peter Bebergal. This time we're talking about mysticism and dybbuks. Be sure and check out the links below including the upcoming talk Peter is giving April 14th for The Last Tuesday Society.
Peter on Jewish Boston podcast
All the Haunts Be Ours (affiliate link) 15-Disk Horror Collection
The Ibbur from Jewish mysticism
Peter will be talking monster culture for The Last Tuesday Society on April 14th at 3 pm ET - check it out
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S04E26 - A Natural History of Sea Serpents with Adrian Shine

We're delighted to get to talk with Adrian Shine, who has worked for decades to raise awareness about Loch Ness and investigated the legendary creature said to inhabit the dark waters of that deep Scottish lake. He's written a new book about Sea Monsters and their connection to the Loch Ness Mystery which releases April 1st, 2025.
A Natural History of Sea Monsters (affiliate link)
The Loch Ness Centre
In the intro you hear a clip of IN SEARCH OF from S01E20 - which features a young Adrian. Check out In Research Of's coverage wi...
S04E25 - Demon Sex in Medieval Times PT 2

We're back with part 2 of our interview with Dr. Eleanor Janega to discuss Demons in Medieval Europe - and a lot of that has to do with sexy sex. So… another EXPLICIT tag!
Eleanor's Blog Going-Medieval
Eleanor's book The Once and Future Sex
The Apocalypse Tapestry of Angers (The Guardian)
The Apocalypse Tapestry (Wikipedia)
YouTube videos with Eleanor
Monty Summers translation of the Malleus Maleficarum (AMZ affiliate link)
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S04E24 Demon Sex in Medieval Times

We're joined by the engaging historian Dr. Eleanor Janega to talk about how the people of Europe considered demonic sex during the medieval period of history. This episode is in two parts, and both are explicit.
Presenter on the History Hit channel - https://www.historyhit.com/
Blog - https://going-medieval.com/
Medievalist, author, blogs about medieval history, pop culture, and swearing
Author of: The Once and Future Sex: Going Medieval on Women's Roles in Society
Article: “On sex with demons” - https://going-medieval.com/2020/07/30/on-sex-with-demons/
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S04E23 Remembering Joe Nickell

A brief remembrance of our friend, Joe Nickell. (December 1, 1944 – March 4, 2025)
Joe Nickell's extraordinary life came to an end on Tuesday, March 4th and we're posting this brief remembrance this week instead of our regular episode.
Check out Joe's many "personas."
The Science of Monsters: Tracking the Real-Life Creatures
Archive episodes with Joe
The sourtoe cocktail
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S04E22 Women in the Paranormal

We're joined by Allison Jornlin (paranormalwomen.com) to talk about the footprint of women in the field of parapsychology and paranormal investigation.
We most recently talked with Allison during "the dark times" on our COVID-era MonsterTalk Live series.
She also covered the Chicago Mothman flap with us back in 2018!
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S04E21 The Cave of the Winds

Is the cave of the winds near Manitou Springs, CO HAUNTED!? Matt Baxter has investigated and he joins us to talk about what he found.
Related Links:
Spooky Science Sisters - Roanoke episode with Karen
In Research Of… The Lost Colony - Blake & Jeb Card discuss the In Search Of… episode about Roanoke.
Eclectic Shopping options in Manitou Springs
The history of Manitou Springs
The Cave of the Winds (Official Site)
The Manitou (1978 film)
Manitou - the spirit
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S04E20 - Understand Japan's Dan Da Dan [Explicit]

We're joined by Dr. Justin Mullis to get a better understanding of the incredibly lore-dense anime series Dan Da Dan.
Justin's academia profile
Legend of Momotaro
Some links recommended by Justin:
This is a really good video about the history of the Flatwoods Monster in Japanese video games. Highly recommended.
This is the Religious Dispatches article about koro.
Here's the Japan Today interview with the current editor of MU magazine.And here's the MU magazine article I mentioned about Turbo Granny (in Japanese).
The book on Japanes...
S04E19 - Monsters of the Heart

As Valentine's day bears down upon us, we turn to the monsters whose origins lie in passion, betrayal, and tragedy. If love is the strongest human emotion, surely rage at betrayal is its nightmarish mirror - and such emotions are embodied in a variety of creatures around the world and throughout history.
Content Warning - this episode contains stories of child death, suicide, murder, and other unplesantness. And also some discussion of candy. So there's that.
Don't forget to pick up Karen's latest Book: Bitch: The Journey of a Word
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S04E18 - Grave Rubbers from CyberSpace!

Cemeteries Cleaning and Grave Rubbing - Karen and Blake are joined by Matt Baxter to discuss the ethics and best practices around maintaining and preserving graveyards.
Links for Grave Rubbers from CyberSpace:
The article that inspired this conversation (via The Conversation)
Ken Feder (friend of the show and emeritus professor of archaeology) sent along this helpful article about grave preservation.
The woman with the pink foam (Kaeli Mae McEwen - aka "Clean Girl") has a site where she sells the stuff.
In Atlanta - at historic Oakland Cemetery - the...
S04E17 The Ghost of Ticonderoga with Joseph Gagne

This week we're welcoming back historian Dr Joseph Gagne to tell us about a ghost story that straddles North America and Scotland. He was last with us to tell us about the legend of La Corriveau in episode 181.
Appearances of the Dead: A Cultural History of Ghosts by Ronald C. Finucane - mentioned by Joseph as his introduction to this story. This is an affiliate link and the book is out of print, so be advised it's PRICEY.
But wait! You can read it for free at Archive.org.
Joseph asked me to be sure and...
S04E16 - The Houdini Seance and Arthur Ford, Spiritualist

Today we're discussing the strange story of The Houdini Seance and Arthur Ford the Spiritualist.
The last Houdini Seance (1936) - Audio + Story
Bess Houdini
Arthur Ford - Spiritualist
Arthur Ford - Obituary
The Houdini Code
The Bishop James Pike
Was Pike Seance Hoax?
The Skeptics Dictionary: Arthur Ford
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S04E15 The Green Eyes Festival

In the mountains of North Georgia on a spooky civil war battlefield there is a legend of a green eyed monster. This is not that story. This is the story of the new festival set up to commemorate the monster, but also bring people and revenue to this rural southern town. We'll be talking with Nate Tucker and Dillan Whisenant about their experience kicking off the first Green Eyes Festival of Chicamauga, Georgia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chickamauga
https://www.greeneyesfestival.com/
Phil's Primetime Pizza
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S04E14 2024 Year In Review

This is the audio from our 2024 livestream (http://youtube.com/monstertalk). If you saw that live, this is the same audio without the moving picture bits. If you didn't see it but want to see our mugs waggin' synchronously to our voices, you can find this particular episode here.
Otherwise - happy new year! We'll be back next week talking about how to make a successful monster festival with some guys who just did it for the Green Eyes Festival.
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S04E13_Monstertalk

We're joined by fellow podcaster and friend of the show, Andy Driscoll, to introduce a peculiar region in Massachusetts said to be home to concentrated high strangeness. We'll definitely be coming back to deep dive in these swamps for more details on particular claims but Andy gives us a great "hometown" introduction to this fascinating area.
Video Segment with Jeff Bellanger introducing the topic (CBS News)
The popular podcast Lore's coverage during their first season (2015)
Pukwudgie
Maushop
Dighton Rock
Larry Kusche Obituary and his Wiki Page
More with Andy Driscoll:
The Old...
Christmas Special #012 - Smee by A. M. Burrage

One of the most "Christmas Ghost Story" ghost stories for Christmas that I've ever come across. Smee tells of a night of holiday revelry turned chilling and mysterious by the appearance of an unexpected attendee at the festivities.
You can read along with the ebook by purchasing it here. (affiliate Link)
Read more about A. M. Burrage if you like. (Wikipedia)
Art for this episode is by one of my progeny. -B
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S04E12 Do You Believe in Magic with Laura Krantz

We're excited to have Laura Krantz back to talk about her latest book - a youth-focused look at how to distinguish between magical and scientific thinking: Do You Believe in Magic?
Laura's very entertaining and informative podcasts: LINK
Laura's other writings (affiliate LINK)
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S04E11 - The Saucer Life with Aaron Gulyas

An interview with writer, researcher and podcaster Aaron Gulyas - host of the UFO themed history podcast The Saucer Life.
Gulyas is also the author of many books (affiliate link) including some likely to be of particular interest to MT listeners:
Extraterrestrials and the American Zeitgeist: Alien Contact Tales Since the 1950s
Conspiracy Theories: The Roots, Themes and Propagation of Paranoid Political and Cultural Narratives
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Blake (and his wife Kathleen) will be p...
S04E10 - The Wollaton Gnomes with Chris Woodyard

We welcome back Chris Woodyard to discuss the very odd story of the Wollaton Gnomes - a 1979 reported sighting of little men in little cars by a group of children in a British park.
Chris & Simon's podcast Boggarts & Banshees (Apple Podcasts)
Transcript of the gnome witness children's Interview (courtesy Simon Young)
Wollaton Hall (wiki)
Blog by Frank Earp, who claims to have investigated the gnomes contemporary to the events.
Laughing Gnome (1967) David Bowie song
The Original Fairy Investigation Society (wiki)
The reborn Fairy Investigation Society (facebook)
Fairy Census One
Fairy Census...
S04E09 - THEM! and The Monster from Newark

We're delighted to celebrate Thanksgiving with the return of Dr. Brian Regal. He's here to talk about a favorite monster film, and announce the release of his autobiography, The Monster from Newark.
Links:
Brian's autobiography - The Monster From Newark (affiliate link)Karen's anthology of skeptics having weird experiences:Would You Believe It? (affiliate link)Lucky Dragon No 5 (wiki)Castle Bravo test & "maru" ship (wiki)List of Giant Ant Movies List of Giant Monster MoviesThe Pet (1921)The Lost World (1925)Reptilicus MST3K
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S04E08 CryptidCon 20244

Thanks to your generous support I was able to make it to CryptidCon 2024 and this is a chat with Karen and me, reporting on day one.
I'll be heading out later today for the five and a half hour drive back home but this has been delightful and you're sure to hear more from the connections I made and the ideas I heard while immersing myself in the cryptid community once more.
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GoFundMe - Van Repair Emergency

I'm sorry to come to you with hat in hand, but our family vehicle's water pump just went out a day before I was to head up to Kentucky to go to CryptidCon. If just 10% of our listeners would donate $1 it would absolutely cover this repair and restore my confidence in heading out of town.
I hate to ask but I don't know any other way to come up with the money on such short notice. So if you enjoy the show and want to hear more cryptid content in particular, please check the show no...
S04E07 Nandor Fodor and the Talking Mongoose

Blake and Karen are joined by Matt Baxter to discuss the 2023 film Nandor Fodor and the Talking Mongoose, based on the story of Gef, the talking mongoose at the heart of the story.
Visit our original coverage of Gef in episode #67
Watch the film (Amazon affiliate link)
A list of the clever things a mongoose might say...
The Haunting of Alma Fielding - a recent book about Nandor Fodor's investigation of an alleged psychic (Affiliate Link)
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S04E06 Griffinology

We're joined by author and professor Anne McClannan to discuss her new book Griffinology. These monsters are visually easily recognized - but how much do you know about their history?
Links:
Griffinology is available directly from University of Chicago Press.
Coupon code UCPNEW is good through Dec 2024 for 30% off - which brings the price down to $28 off its regular cover price of $40!
Griffins (wikipedia)
Here is a link to some Griffins in ancient artwork. The artwork in Griffinology is a stunning and impressive selection of such examples.
PopSci article on plausibility of Grif...
S04E05 Real Vampires with Joe Laycock

We managed to catch up with Joe Laycock for ONE MORE VAMPIRE EPISODE! This time we're having a look at the world of people who believe they are really vampires. Some drink blood, some drink energy, most embrace vampire gaming.
Joe wrote Vampires Today: The Truth About Modern Vampirism
In fact, Joe has written a lot of books that will be of interest to you guys!
And I'm so excited about Joe's current research - which you'll hear about at the end.
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S04E04 (EXPLICIT) MonsterTalk Live Halloween 2024 - Vampires in Media

Blake and Karen are joined again by Matt Baxter to talk about vampires in books, film, tv, and comics! This episode is EXPLICIT and contains adult language.
We talk about a ton of topics in this one and too many shows and movies to list - but I'll try and post a list when I get time to all the things referenced over at this episode's page on MonsterTalk.org - Thanks for your patience!
You can watch this video on YouTube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vBNyYz6y0M
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S04E03 - Jiangshi - "Hopping Vampires?"

We’re joined by researcher Katarzyna “Kasia” Ancuta to learn more about the Chinese creature known as the Jiangshi – but more famous in the West as “Hopping Vampires.” It turns out that their history is being complicated by their appearances in pop-culture!
Jiangshi Movies: (affiliate links)
Encounters of the Spooky Kind
Mr. Vampire
Rigor Mortis
The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires
Additional Reading:
The Hun and Po soul
Scared Stiff: Jiangshi and Chinese Vampires – from the Palgrave Handbook of Vampires
Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio by Pu Songling (wiki)
S04E02 The Pathologies of Vampirism with Dr. Brian Sharpless

We're delighted to have Brian Sharpless (Monsters on the Couch) back with us to discuss some of the Psychology elements of vampirism, as well as some of his favorite historical cases. Be sure and grab his book if you're at all interested in the intersection of monsters and Psychology.
Show Notes:
Monsters on the Couch
Renfield Syndrome (wikipedia)
2005 Romanian Vampire case (The Guardian)
Richard Chase - Serial Killer (wikipedia)
Mercy Brown vampire case (wikipedia)
Vlad...