The Human Action Podcast

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The Human Action Podcast features in-depth interviews on current topics in economics through an Austro libertarian lens.

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A Harvard Economist Tests Austrian Capital Theory
#554
Yesterday at 7:31 PM

Bob sits down with Harvard Economics Professor Pol Antràs to discuss his new paper applying Böhm-Bawerk's average period of production to international trade, testing whether countries with lower interest rates tend to export goods requiring longer, more roundabout production processes.

Related:

Professor Antràs' Paper, "An ‘Austrian’ Model of International Specialization": Mises.org/HAP554aBob's Article, "The Reswitching Question": Mises.org/HAP554b


The Fed's Real Job: Propping Up Dollar Reserve Currency Status
#553
06/13/2026

Bob sits down with economists Alexander Salter and Joshua Hendrickson to discuss their new paper arguing that the standard Austrian critique of the Fed while correct, is fundamentally incomplete. They argue that the Fed's actual institutional role is to backstop U.S. dollar hegemony: the deliberately constructed post-Bretton Woods system in which the dollar serves as the world's reserve currency, U.S. Treasuries as the global safe asset, and the Fed as buyer of last resort for sovereign debt worldwide.

Related:

Hendrickson & Salter, "Should We End the Fed? Can We?": Mises.org/HAP553a


A Scholarly Takedown of MMT: Emmanuel Maggiori on the Theory's Fatal Flaws
#552
06/09/2026

Bob sits down with economist Emmanuel Maggiori to discuss his new book If You Can Just Print Money, Why Do I Pay Taxes?, a carefully researched, point-by-point critique of Modern Monetary Theory that engages MMT on its own terms, drawing on the MMTers' own textbook, papers, and responses to critics.

Related:

If You Can Just Print Money, Why Do I Pay Taxes?: Mises.org/HAP552aBob's Mises Daily Article, "The Upside-Down World of MMT": Mises.org/HAP552bJonathan Newman and Bob's MisesU Lecture on MMT: Mises.org/HAP552c


How Future Supply Moves Today's Prices
#551
05/22/2026

This week, Bob walks through three thought experiments to show how expectations of future supply changes ripple into present prices and production decisions in ways that purely mechanical monetary frameworks like MV=PQ can't capture.

Related:

How Can Mining Asteroids in the Future Make Us Richer Today?: Mises.org/HAP551aBob's 2008 Article on Oil Prices: Mises.org/HAP551b

Celebrate Murray Rothbard's 100th birthday with a free copy of Anatomy of the State. Get yours at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Why Socialism Fails: From Mises's 1920 Article to Today
#550
05/19/2026

Bob sits down with Dr. Jonathan Newman to discuss his Mises Academy course for homeschooling families based on Lessons for the Young Economist, using it as a starting point to walk through the full Austrian case against socialism.

Related:

The Mises Academy: Mises.org/HAP550aDr. Newman's Course, Lessons for the Young Economist: Mises.org/HAP550bBob's Lessons for the Young Economist: Mises.org/HAP550cBob's Lessons for the Young Economist Teacher's Manual: Mises.org/HAP550dDr. Newman's Article, "Star Trek Is Wrong: There Will Always Be Scarcity": Mises.org/HAP550e

Celebrate Murray Rothbard's 100...


Making Sense of the Trump Administration's "Hail Mary" on Iran
#549
05/15/2026

Bob argues that many Austro-libertarians (himself included, initially) have been too quick to dismiss the Trump administration's foreign and economic policy as mere incompetence or corruption, without grasping the strategic logic behind it. His thesis: the U.S. national security establishment sees China's rise as an existential threat and believes the window to act is closing fast, making the current flurry of aggressive moves less like random chaos and more like a desperate Hail Mary pass.

Related:

The Charts and Graphs Mentioned in this Episode: Mises.org/HAP549aThe Bob Murphy Show, "LEAKED: Trump's Secret Strategy B...


Responding to Geochartalism: Did Mosler Complete Menger?
#548
05/04/2026

Bob responds to a new working paper from the Geo-chartalism project, which claims to offer a complete theory of the price level by combining insights from Menger, Cantillon, and Warren Mosler. Bob argues that the paper overlooks a crucial prior contribution: Mises' regression theorem, developed in The Theory of Money and Credit, which already solved the circularity problem in monetary theory that the paper claims required Mosler to resolve. Along the way, Bob also explains chartalism, Georgism, and Mises's explanation of the absolute price level.

Related:

Bob's Paper Critiquing Kevin Carson's Studies in Mutualist Political Economy...


Robert Aro on the Fed's Reverse Repo Trick
#547
04/27/2026

Bob sits down with researcher Robert Aro to review his recent Mises.org article on why the widely anticipated post-QT crash never materialized. They trace the answer back to the Fed's reverse repo facility, which quietly injected trillions back into the financial system even as the official balance sheet was shrinking, and what the depletion of that buffer might mean for what comes next.

Related:

Robert's Power & Market Post, "Why the Crash Was Delayed": Mises.org/HAP547aBob’s Article, “The Inverted Yield Curve and Recession”: Mises.org/HAP547b

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Luke Gromen on the Strait of Hormuz and Supply Chain Collapse
#546
04/21/2026

Bob sits down with macro researcher Luke Gromen of Forest for the Trees to discuss the cascading supply chain consequences of a closed Strait of Hormuz. They also touch on why gold is already supplanting the dollar as the world's premier reserve asset, and what the surge in U.S. gold exports over the past five months tells us about where the global monetary order is heading.

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Bob Responds to Randall Wray on Sectoral Balances
#545
04/10/2026

After his recent Zero Hedge debate with MMT co-founder Randall Wray, Bob takes a deep dive into the sectoral balance approach. He explains why the MMT argument is technically a tautology, how it's deeply misleading, and why the private sector doesn't need government deficits to save, invest, and accumulate real wealth.

Related:

Is Paying Down Government Debt Bad for the Economy?: Mises.org/HAP545aBob's Article, "Does History Show Government Debt Paydown Causes a Crash?": Mises.org/HAP545b

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free...


Cantillon Effects and the Politics of Money Creation
#544
04/02/2026

This week, Bob explains Cantillon effects: the insight that new money doesn't raise all prices equally or simultaneously, but flows through the economy in a sequence that benefits early recipients at the expense of everyone else. Then, he shows why this phenomenon is the foundation on which the entire Austrian theory of the business cycle is built.

Related:

Richard Cantillon, An Essay on Economic Theory: Mises.org/HAP544a

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Can AI Solve the Socialist Calculation Problem?
#543
03/27/2026

Bob untangles two arguments that even Austrian economists sometimes conflate: Mises' calculation problem and Hayek's knowledge problem. Then, he explains why the distinction matters, especially in light of recent claims that AI and modern computing could finally make central planning viable.

Related:

Bob's Article, "Socialism: The Calculation Problem Is Not the Knowledge Problem": Mises.org/HAP543a

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Visualizing The Boom-Bust Cycle with Roger Garrison
#542
03/21/2026

In memory of Roger Garrison, Bob walks through Garrison's famous capital-based macroeconomics diagrams, showing how they translate the Mises-Hayek theory of the boom-bust cycle into the language of modern macroeconomics.

Related:

Roger Garrison, The Austrian Theory of the Business Cycle: Mises.org/HAP542aRoger Garrison, Austrian Macroeconomics: A Diagrammatical Exposition: Mises.org/HAP542bThe Diagrams Referenced in the Podcast: Mises.org/HAP542cDr. Garrison's PowerPoints: Mises.org/HAP542d

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Rothbard at 100: Five Economic Insights That Still Matter
#541
03/13/2026

In commemoration of Murray Rothbard’s 100th birthday, Bob shares five “greatest hits” from Rothbard’s economics, covering deficits vs. inflation, monopoly theory, excess capacity, the time structure of production, and his reconstruction of utility and welfare economics.

Related:

Rothbard, Making Economic Sense: Mises.org/HAP541aRothbard, "Toward a Reconstruction of Utility and Welfare Economics": Mises.org/HAP541bRothbard, Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market: Mises.org/HAP541cBob's Study Guide to Man, Economy, and State with Power and Market: Mises.org/HAP541d

Join the Mises Institute on Saturday, April 25 in San Diego, C...


Banning Congress, Not Markets: The Insider Trading Dilemma
#540
03/03/2026

Bob uses Trump’s call to ban congressional insider trading as a springboard to explain why, from an Austro-libertarian perspective, insider trading and speculation could help markets work, while still justifying special rules for government employees.

Related:

Bob's Article "Is Insider Trading Really a Crime?": Mises.org/HAP540aThe Social Function of Stock Speculators: Mises.org/HAP540bThe Social Function of Futures Markets: Mises.org/HAP540cThe Social Function of Call and Put Options: Mises.org/HAP540d

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at...


Milei Defends Capitalism and Austrian Economics at the WEF
#539
02/24/2026

This week, Bob walks through Javier Milei’s 2026 address to the World Economic Forum, explaining the Austrian and neoclassical ideas behind Milei’s defense of capitalism—from Rothbard and Kirzner to Pareto efficiency and the welfare theorems.

Related:

Bob's Breakdown of The Intra-Austrian Debate over Milei: Mises.org/HAP539a

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


California’s Billionaire Tax and State-to-State Flight
#538
02/17/2026

Bob lays out California’s proposed 5% wealth tax on billionaires, using it to explain why taxes on wealth are especially destructive, how different tax structures change incentives, and what recent migration data says about people voting with their feet.

Related:

Data on 2020–2024 State-to-State Migration: Mises.org/HAP538a"Where Americans Choose to Move and Where They Leave": Mises.org/HAP538b

Politicians don’t build prosperity. Entrepreneurs do. Join Keith Smith, Caitlin Long, Ryan McMaken, Per Bylund, and Timothy Terrell for our first event of 2026: Mises.org/OKCHA

The Mises Institute is giving away 1...


Dr. Keith Smith on the Health Insurance Cartel
#537
02/11/2026

Bob talks with Dr. Keith Smith of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma about how posting cash prices, walking away from government money, and working with self-funded employers created an alternative to the cartel of big hospitals and insurers.

Politicians don’t build prosperity. Entrepreneurs do. Join Keith Smith, Caitlin Long, Ryan McMaken, Per Bylund, and Timothy Terrell for our first event of 2026: Mises.org/OKCHA

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Is Bitcoin Fiat Money?
#536
02/05/2026

Bob applies Mises’ taxonomy of money and the regression theorem to Bitcoin, asking whether it should be classified as commodity or fiat money and whether Austrian theory really rules out Bitcoin ever becoming money.

Related:

Mises's The Theory of Money and Credit: Mises.org/HAP536aBob's Study Guide to The Theory of Money and Credit: Mises.org/HAP536bBob's Primer on Bitcoin: Mises.org/HAP536c

Politicians don’t build prosperity. Entrepreneurs do. Join Keith Smith, Caitlin Long, Ryan McMaken, Per Bylund, and Timothy Terrell for our first event of 2026: Mises.org/HAHC

The...


Gold Exports, Trade Deficits, and Tariffs
#535
01/24/2026

Bob responds to James Rickards’ recent tweet on record U.S. gold exports driving an improved trade balance, walking through the official data on non-monetary gold, Trump-era tariff uncertainty, and the broader question of what chronic trade deficits really mean in a post-gold-standard world. 

Related:

The Charts Used in this Episode: Mises.org/HAP535aBob's Recent Talk on Trade Deficits: Mises.org/HAP535bBob's Econlib Article on Oil Prices: Mises.org/HAP535c

Politicians don’t build prosperity. Entrepreneurs do. Join Keith Smith, Caitlin Long, Ryan McMaken, Per Bylund, and Timothy Terrell for our first event...


Billionaires, Workers, and the Exploitation Theory
#534
01/18/2026

Bob revisits Böhm-Bawerk’s critique of the exploitation theory of interest to answer modern claims that billionaires like Elon Musk must have “stolen” their wealth from workers who supposedly create 100 percent of a firm’s value.

Related:

Böhm-Bawerk’s Critique of the Exploitation Theory of Interest: Mises.org/HAP534aBöhm-Bawerk’s Karl Marx and the Close of His System: Mises.org/HAP534b

Politicians don’t build prosperity. Entrepreneurs do. Join Keith Smith, Caitlin Long, Ryan McMaken, Per Bylund, and Timothy Terrell for our first event of 2026: Mises.org/HAHC

The Mises Institu...


Dr. Peter Klein on International Law and “Might Makes Right”
#533
01/15/2026

Bob talks with Dr. Peter Klein about the recent U.S. operation in Venezuela and the social-media backlash against “international law,” using it as a springboard to clarify what law is, how it can exist without a world government, and why Austrians care about polycentric legal orders.

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Roger Farmer Gives a Tour of Macroeconomics
#532
01/02/2026

This week, Bob talks with macroeconomist Roger Farmer—who places himself “between Keynes and Hayek”—about how twentieth-century macroeconomics evolved. They discuss how overlapping generations and search theory change the story on unemployment and asset prices, and where Professor Farmer thinks both neoclassicals and MMT advocates go wrong. Farmer contrasts the old “rocking horse” vision of the economy with his preferred “windy boat” metaphor, where the economy can drift for long periods, and variables like unemployment behave more like random walks than quick returns to a single steady state.

Related:

Professor Farmer's Article, "How New Keynesian Economics Betray...


Three Economic Fallacies: Holidays, Billionaires, and WWII
#531
12/29/2025

Bob uses three recent controversies–Richard Murphy’s “Christmas all year” claim, Elon Musk’s net worth, and Ron DeSantis on the Great Depression–to clear up common economic fallacies about work, wealth, and wartime spending.

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Eric Weinstein’s Challenge to Mainstream Mathematical Economics
#530
12/16/2025

Bob uses clips from his recent interview with Eric Weinstein to explain why Weinstein thinks gauge theory can fix how economists measure the cost of living, unify competing price indices, and handle changing preferences over time, and why Austrians shouldn’t dismiss him as a crank. He summarizes Eric’s claim that standard mathematical economics relies on the simplest kind of derivative, explaining how much of modern economic modeling is using the wrong math.

Related: 

Bob's Interview with Eric Weinstein on the InFi Podcast: Mises.org/HAP530a

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Ha...


The Intra-Austrian Debate over Milei and the Central Bank
#529
12/08/2025

This week, Bob walks through two related debates: Hoppe’s criticism of Argentina's President Milei for not immediately closing Argentina’s central bank, and the follow-up exchange between Guido HĂŒlsmann and Philipp Bagus on Mises.org over dollarization and the peso. Along the way, he reviews Mises’s distinctions among commodity, credit, and fiat money, the concepts of money substitutes and fiduciary media, and the interesting structure of Argentina’s short-term central bank debt

Guido HĂŒlsmann and Philipp Bagus' Debate on Mises.org: Mises.org/HAP529aThe Human Action Podcast Episode with NicolĂĄs Cachanosky: Mises.org/HAP529b...


The Great Depression: An Austrian Reply to WIRED
#527
11/28/2025

Bob walks through a recent WIRED video on “the economics behind the Great Depression,” correcting its claims on lax regulation, Hoover’s alleged inaction, the role of the Fed and the gold standard, and the notion that World War II ended the slump.

Bob's Article, "The Depression You’ve Never Heard Of: 1920-1921": Mises.org/HAP528aBob's Talk, "Contrasting Views of the Great Depression": Mises.org/HAP528bThe WIRED Video, "Economics Professor Answers Great Depression Questions": Mises.org/HAP528c

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises...


Interest Is Not the Marginal Product of Capital
#527
11/23/2025

Bob revisits capital and interest theory to show why the textbook result “interest = MPK” only holds in a one-good world, and why in actual markets the interest rate emerges from time, prices, and capital valuation—not raw productivity.

Bob and Alberto Bisin Discuss the Use of Mathematics in Economics: Mises.org/HAP527aBob's Dissertation, "Unanticipated Intertemporal Change in Theories of Interest": Mises.org/HAP527b

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


What Makes Economics Scientific?
#526
11/17/2025

Prompted by an online debate about whether economics belongs with the hard sciences, Bob reviews common defenses of mainstream practice and explains why they don’t settle the scientific status of the field. He outlines the Mises–Rothbard view: economics as praxeology (logic of action), closer to geometry than laboratory testing, with core insights on opportunity cost, incentives, prices, money, and policy constraints that don’t depend on forecasting the exact timing of crashes.

Understanding Money Mechanics: Mises.org/HAP526aBob's Mises Daily Article, "Economists Can Be Hilarious": Mises.org/HAP526bHoppe's Economic Science and the Austrian Method: Mises...


Rethinking "Sticky Prices" and Monetary Disequilibrium
#524
11/12/2025

Dr. Jonathan Newman joins the Human Action Podcast to discuss his recent QJAE article disputing the claim that 'sticky prices' prevent markets from clearing--i.e., when the quantity supplied equals the quantity demanded. Dr. Newman applies Mises’s “plain state of rest” to show that each voluntary exchange equates quantities supplied and demanded, so observed “stickiness” doesn’t imply non-clearing markets.

"There Ain't No Such Thing as a Sticky Price": Mises.org/HAP525a

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Is Paying Down Government Debt Bad for the Economy?
#524
11/02/2025

Is paying down the federal debt a recession trigger? Bob takes on the MMT claim and checks the record, citing US debt payoffs, Canada’s 1990s reforms, and ECB case studies. Conclusion: real wealth beats accounting tricks and paydowns aren’t a mechanical path to recession.

Read More on Fiscal Austerity: Mises.org/HAP524aThe Upside-Down World of MMT: Mises.org/HAP524bDo Balanced Budgets Cause Depressions?: Mises.org/HAP524c

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


How Congress Should Reform the Fed
#523
10/30/2025

Alex Pollock joins the Human Action Podcast to explain his recent Congressional testimony on the Fed’s growing insolvency and mandate overreach. The Fed now admits to $243 billion in operating losses and nearly $1 trillion in mark-to-market losses, leaving it with negative capital of about $197 billion. Pollock explains how the central bank transformed itself into “the biggest 1980s-style savings and loan in history” — funding short while buying long, and bleeding cash as interest rates rose.

Read the Congressional Testimony: Mises.org/HAP523aRead More from Alex Pollock: Mises.org/HAP523b

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Yes, Tariffs Reduce Imports, but They Also Reduce Exports
#522
10/22/2025

In this episode of the Human Action Podcast, Bob unpacks Lerner’s Symmetry Theorem—the classic result that, under tight conditions, an import tariff is equivalent to an export tax. He applies the framework to recent 100% China‑tariff headlines, explaining why the dollar might strengthen in theory yet sometimes weakens in practice once retaliation and policy signaling are factored in.

The Human Action Podcast on Trump's Tariff Strategy: Mises.org/HAP522a The Lerner Symmetry Theorem: Mises.org/HAP522b

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mis...


AI, Automation, and the Human Advantage
#521
10/13/2025

This week, Bob tackles growing concerns about artificial intelligence, automation, and mass unemployment. Using the principles of marginal productivity and comparative advantage, he shows how the standard economic arguments still apply—even in the age of ChatGPT and robotics. Responding directly to viral tweets from Matt Walsh, Bob dismantles the popular belief that AI will inevitably destroy human labor markets. He explains why highly skilled labor has always coexisted with less-skilled workers and why new technologies, despite their disruptive effects, tend to improve standards of living for everyone over time.

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The Importance of Time in Explaining Asset Bubbles
#520
10/06/2025

Jonathan Newman returns to join Bob in a critique of Eliezer Yudkowsky’s viral theory of investment bubbles. Yudkowsky states that the bad investment during bubbles should be felt before the bubble pops, not after. They argue that his perspective—while clever—fails to consider the Austrian insights on capital structure, time preference, and the business cycle. They use analogies from apple trees to magic mushrooms to show why Austrian economics provides the clearest explanation for booms, busts, and the pain that follows.

Eliezer Yudkowsky's Theory on Investment Bubbles: Mises.org/HAP520aBob's Article "Correcting Yudkowsky on the Boom"...


Menger's Barter Theory of the Origin of Money Is Still Standing
#519
09/30/2025

Professor Georgy Ganev joins Bob to explain that, contrary to the claims of David Graeber and the MMTers, the barter origin of money has not been refuted. The anthropological evidence is consistent with the Mengerian story, and Mises' regression theorem remains the only coherent explanation for money's value. 

Professor Ganev's Paper, "Has the barter theory of the origins of money been rejected?": Mises.org/HAP519a

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree


Are Private Equity Firms Really Driving Home Prices?
#518
09/21/2025

In this solo episode, Bob challenges the populist narrative that private equity ownership of homes is the main driver of rising housing costs. He explains the actual role of speculators in stabilizing markets, compares housing to used car dealerships, and critiques proposals like Henry George’s land tax. Bob also points to zoning restrictions and the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet as the real culprits behind skyrocketing prices.

The Social Function of Stock Speculators: Mises.org/HAP518aRothbard's Treatise, Man, Economy, and State: Mises.org/HAP518bBob's Study Guide to Man, Economy, and State: Mises.org/HAP518c

Th...


Inflation’s Impact on Marriage and Children
#517
09/18/2025

Bob talks with economist Jeff Degner about his new book Inflation and the Family. Drawing inspiration from Guido HĂŒlsmann’s The Ethics of Money Production, Professor Degner shows how central bank policies and interest rate manipulation create ripple effects beyond prices and GDP. From marriage formation to fertility decisions and divorce trends, he explains how inflation fosters short-termism, debt culture, and moral hazard within households.

Join Jeff Degner and other Mises faculty on November 1st for our first student-only event at Cornerstone University in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Find out more at Mises.org/Cornerstone25

Inflation and...


Why the Fed Isn’t Really Independent
#516
09/07/2025

This week, Bob takes on the hot-button debate over Federal Reserve “independence” in light of Trump’s moves against Fed Governor Lisa Cook. He explains why the Fed has never truly been independent, drawing on the Treasury-Fed Accord of 1951 and the institution’s long history of serving political power.  Recalling Elizabeth Warren’s attacks on Jay Powell to insider trading scandals among Fed officials, Bob exposes the hypocrisy of politicians and media figures who cry about independence only when it suits them. He also highlights how the Fed’s structure—unanimous FOMC votes, backroom bailouts, and secrecy over bank rescues—makes i...


Peter Klein on Hayek for the 21st Century
#515
09/01/2025

Bob is joined by Dr. Peter Klein to take a look at the Mises Institute's new book, Hayek for the 21st Century. The discussion highlights Hayek’s insights on tacit knowledge, why markets outperform central planners, the dangers of political power, and how monetary freedom could stop inflation. Along the way, Bob and Peter connect these timeless ideas to today’s debates over technology, government control, and economic liberty. 

The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Hayek for the 21st Century. Get your free copy at Mises.org/HAPodFree