Behavior Gap Radio
Greetings, Carl here. This podcast is super simple, it's me wandering through the world noticing things about how to align my use of capital (time and money) with what is actually important to me. -Carl
1483 | That's Morally Reprehensible... Where Is the Line?
In this episode, Carl examines a surprising emotional reaction he had while hearing about an extravagant luxury home—and what that reaction might be trying to tell him. Instead of dismissing the feeling or judging it, he gets curious about it, using it as another example of his growing belief that feelings are data. It’s a candid exploration of envy, anger, values, and the stories we tell ourselves about money, wealth, and what a good life looks like.
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1482 | Risk? Pay Attention to Feelings
In this episode, Carl continues his exploration of the idea that feelings are data with a bold claim: When it comes to risk, feelings aren’t incidental—they’re central. Too often, emotions are treated as noise that gets in the way of good decision-making. Carl argues the opposite. When we’re facing uncertainty, fear, excitement, hesitation, and intuition may contain critical information about what matters to us and how we perceive risk. It’s a thoughtful look at why understanding our feelings may be just as important as understanding the numbers.
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1481 | Clarity Is Not Judgment
In this episode, Carl explores a paradox he’s noticed in some of the most important decisions of his life: While he loves receiving strong, opinionated advice, the people who have helped him most often didn’t tell him what to do at all. Instead, they created the space for him to discover his own answer. Reflecting on decision-making, wisdom, and even spiritual maturity, Carl considers the difference between giving answers and helping someone find their path—and why the latter may be far more valuable, even when it feels frustrating in the moment.
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1480 | More or Enough?
In this episode, Carl reflects on a powerful idea from E. F. Schumacher and the subtle stories we tell ourselves about consumption. Drawing on Schumacher’s concept of “Buddhist economics,” he explores how modern culture has gradually transformed consumption from a means to an end—from a tool that serves a meaningful life into a goal in itself. It’s a thoughtful invitation to reconsider what consumption is actually for and whether we’ve mistaken the vehicle for the destination.
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1479 | Sometimes the Body Knows First
In this episode, Carl returns to his exploration of the idea that feelings are data, taking a closer look at a belief he’s carried for years: The body often knows something before the mind can explain it. As he digs into the research behind that intuition, he reflects on the subtle signals we experience physically and what they might reveal about decisions, relationships, and the choices we make around money. It’s an exploration of the connection between awareness, intuition, and the possibility that our bodies may be offering information long before our conscious minds catch up.
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1478 | You Already Know
In this episode, Carl explores the surprising information hidden inside resistance. Inspired by a conversation at a recent retreat, he reflects on the difference between asking, “What am I going to do next?” and asking, “What am I resisting?” Instead of treating resistance as something to overcome, Carl wonders whether it might be a valuable signal—pointing toward something important, unresolved, or worth exploring. It’s a thoughtful look at curiosity, self-awareness, and what our reluctance might be trying to teach us.
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1477 | Feelings Function as Information
In this episode, Carl continues his exploration of the idea that feelings are data by introducing the concept of “affect as information.” Drawing from established research, he examines how we constantly use our emotions as a source of information when making decisions—often without realizing it. Rather than treating feelings as something separate from rational thinking, Carl explores how they may be an essential part of how humans navigate uncertainty, assess situations, and make sense of the world, especially when it comes to money and the choices that matter most.
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1476 | Without Feeling, Thinking Gets Worse
In this episode, Carl lays out the first claim in a growing body of work he’s developing around a simple but provocative idea: Feelings are data. Not just emotions to be managed or ignored, but early-stage information that often arrives before words, analysis, or conscious thought. Carl explores how feelings can signal what matters, what feels safe or threatening, and where our values are being honored or violated—making the case that they deserve a place alongside facts and spreadsheets in the way we make decisions about money and life.
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1475 | Feelings Are at the Center
In this episode, Carl begins a deeper exploration of a simple but often overlooked idea: Feelings are data. Challenging the common assumption that emotions are somehow less valuable than spreadsheets, analysis, or technical expertise, he starts building a case that our feelings deserve a legitimate place in decision-making. Drawing from research, experience, and years of conversations around money, Carl explores what might change if we treated emotions not as distractions from the truth, but as information worth paying attention to.
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1474 | Financial Planning Begins With Feeling
In this episode, Carl explores a provocative idea: What if financial planning is less about thinking and knowing, and more about feeling? Drawing on conversations from retreats and The Collective, he reflects on the possibility that our bodies often recognize truth before our minds can explain it. Whether it’s fear, excitement, resistance, or alignment, Carl argues that paying attention to what we feel may be one of the most overlooked skills in helping people build a healthier relationship with money and make better decisions about their lives.
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1473 | A Partner, Not a Path
In this episode, Carl reflects on what people are really looking for when facing an uncertain future. More often than not, it’s not a perfect plan, a case study, or a detailed roadmap. It’s a companion—someone willing to walk alongside them through uncertainty with wisdom, presence, and care. Carl explores the limits of prediction, the reality of not knowing what comes next, and why the most valuable role an advisor, friend, or partner can play is not providing certainty, but offering steady companionship on the journey.
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1472 | The Time to Awareness
In this episode, Carl explores a simple sketch that captures a powerful idea about personal growth: the relationship between stimulus, response, and awareness. Early on, our reactions can feel automatic, with no space between what happens and how we respond. But over time, awareness begins to show up—first after the fact, then closer and closer to the moment itself. Carl reflects on how real change often starts not by controlling our reactions, but by simply noticing them, and how cultivating that awareness can gradually create more space, choice, and freedom in our lives.
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1471 | Rough Stone Rolling
In this episode, Carl explores the idea of public work as a spiritual practice and reflects on the uncomfortable emotions that surface when we compare ourselves to others. After seeing someone launch a project similar to one he’d been thinking about for years, Carl examines his own reactions: jealousy, insecurity, ego, and the stories we quickly tell ourselves. He shares why building a business, making art, and doing work in public can become powerful opportunities for self-awareness, growth, and refinement, if we’re willing to pay attention to what gets stirred up along the way.
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1470 | Peeling Back the Layers
In this episode, Carl reflects on the difficult and deeply personal work of unwinding the stories we’ve inherited about success, work, relationships, achievement, and identity. He explores how many of our financial decisions are shaped by assumptions we never consciously chose, and why real financial planning often means slowly peeling back those layers to discover what actually matters to us. It’s a thoughtful conversation about alignment, self-awareness, and the lifelong process of becoming more fully ourselves.
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1469 | How Could I Possibly Say No to This?
In this episode, Carl explores the rare moments in life when an opportunity feels so deeply aligned that the question becomes, “How could I possibly say no to this?” Using the example of getting into a dream school like Juilliard, he reflects on regret minimization, the difference between making the “right” decision and making a decision right, and the mysterious way life sometimes rearranges itself after we commit to something meaningful. It’s a thoughtful conversation about risk, dreams, uncertainty, and the courage to say yes.
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1468 | Anxiety vs. Insight
In this episode, Carl explores one of the hardest questions that comes with making meaningful life decisions: How do you tell the difference between anxiety and insight? Reflecting on career changes, relationships, financial decisions, and the messy middle of personal growth, he examines the different textures of fear, urgency, clarity, and alignment. It’s a thoughtful exploration of slowing down, listening carefully, and learning to recognize whether we’re spinning in circles or moving toward something true.
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1467 | What to Do With Obsession?
In this episode, Carl reflects on a quote from Howard Thurman that has shaped his thinking for years: “Don’t ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive and go do it.” He explores the tension between building a life around demand versus building one around aliveness, and the complicated reality that often follows when what makes us come alive doesn’t fit neatly into stability, responsibility, or conventional success. It’s a thoughtful exploration of ambition, freedom, roots, creativity, and the difficult question of what it actually means to “go do it.”
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1466 | Fear-Based Selling
In this episode, Carl reflects on a recent conversation with Michael Kitces about fear-based selling and the surprising world of “disturb tracks” designed to create urgency and anxiety. Carl explores why tactics built on fear, complexity, and pressure may “work” in the short term, but ultimately erode trust and connection. It’s a thoughtful conversation about values-based selling, long-term relationships, and the kind of work Carl actually wants to do in the world.
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1465 | How to Deal With Overwhelm
In this episode, Carl reflects on what it feels like to live in a world where the list of things that matter seems impossibly large, while the list of things we can actually control feels painfully small. Revisiting one of his earliest sketches, he explores the overlap between concern and agency, and why focusing on the small, local things we can actually do may be one of the most grounding responses to overwhelm, uncertainty, and modern life.
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1464 | Selling the Feeling
In this episode, Carl explores what it really means to help people change. Building on yesterday’s idea that the market for feeling something is much larger than the market for becoming it, he reflects on the delicate work of helping clients move from awareness to identity to action. It’s a thoughtful look at financial advice, behavior change, and the quiet, human work of helping someone become the kind of person they want to be.
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1463 | The Market for Feeling
In this episode, Carl explores the surprisingly large gap between feeling productive, being seen as productive, and actually doing meaningful work. He reflects on how easy it is to confuse organizing, planning, researching, or publicly announcing our intentions with the vulnerable act of creating something real. It’s a thoughtful look at identity, risk, and the subtle ways we avoid uncertainty while still convincing ourselves we’re making progress.
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1462 | Confessions of a Market Illiterate
In this episode, Carl shares a moment of clarity after being told he wasn’t a fit for a market-focused podcast—and why that turned out to be exactly right. He explores the important difference between markets and investing, and why chasing daily commentary isn’t the same as doing the real work of aligning money with a meaningful life. It’s a reflection on knowing what game you’re playing, letting go of noise, and focusing on the kind of thinking that actually helps people make better decisions over time.
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1461 | Money and the Arc of Morality
In this episode, Carl reflects on a powerful idea inspired by Martin Luther King Jr.: The arc of the moral universe bends toward justice—but what about our own personal arc? He explores how money and power can quietly influence our decisions, sometimes pulling us away from what we say we believe. Rather than judging others, Carl turns the lens inward, asking where we might bend our own standards under pressure—and how to notice those moments before they shape who we become.
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1460 | I Finally Got Fired!
In this episode, Carl shares a surprising personal story about being “fired” from his own financial planning meetings—and why he was secretly thrilled about it. That experience leads to a deeper question: What if the so-called “disengaged” partner isn’t a problem to fix, but simply someone who's playing to their strengths? Carl challenges a common assumption in financial planning and explores a different approach—one rooted in trust, clear communication, and letting people focus on what they’re actually good at.
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1259 | You're speaking a different language
1458 | Kindness Is the Point
In this episode, Carl reflects on the deeper purpose behind his work and a simple realization that keeps guiding him: Money is the entry point, but kindness is the point. While conversations often start with money, they quickly reveal what really matters—how we spend our time, energy, and attention, and what we want to build in the world. Carl shares why he continues to use money as the doorway, even though the real work has always been about love, connection, and being human.
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1457 | Compound Kindness
In this episode, Carl shares a personal story about a decision to step away from social media noise and focus on one-to-one connection—and the surprising long-term impact it’s had. What started as replying thoughtfully to emails turned into years of meaningful moments with people who never forgot being seen and heard. Carl reflects on a simple idea: Kindness compounds. Not in an abstract way, but in real relationships, trust, and unexpected returns over time—while the opposite carries a cost that shows up when you least expect it.
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1456 | Finance Borrowed It From Life
In this episode, Carl explores the deeper meaning of compounding—not just as a financial concept, but as a universal life principle. Drawing from wisdom across cultures and centuries, he reflects on how the most valuable things in life—health, relationships, skills, and creativity—are built slowly through consistent, repeated effort. Instead of chasing shortcuts, Carl makes the case for investing your time, energy, and attention into things that grow over time and letting them compound into something meaningful.
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1455 | Oh… You Think This Is About Money
In this episode, Carl shares a story from a trip to Chamonix that challenged his assumptions about money, value, and how the world works. After a failed attempt to order eggs outside of breakfast hours, he’s reminded that not everything is about paying more to get what you want—sometimes it’s about craft, culture, and a completely different way of seeing things. Carl reflects on how travel and new environments can expand our perspective on money and life, and why those moments of friction might be some of the most valuable experiences we have.
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1454 | Being Scared Is OK
In this episode, Carl talks openly about the rise in economic anxiety and what to do when fear shows up. Instead of rushing to answers or hiding behind data, he makes a simple point: It’s normal to feel scared when things are uncertain. The real first step isn’t solving the problem, it’s creating space to talk about it honestly—with empathy, not dismissal. Whether you’re the one feeling the fear or the one others turn to for guidance, Carl explores how making room for that emotion can lead to better, more grounded decisions about what to do next...
1453 | Enough Is Here
In this episode, Carl reflects on a simple but elusive idea inspired by Zen teaching: If you can’t find “enough” where you are, where do you expect to find it? He explores how easily we fall into the trap of believing satisfaction is just one step ahead—a bigger number, a future milestone—only to have the goalposts move again. What if enough isn’t something you reach, but something you decide? Carl invites you to sit with that question and consider what might change if you chose, right now, that enough is already here.
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1452 | Turns Out I Don't Like That
In this episode, Carl shares a slightly uncomfortable but honest reflection about giving yourself permission to like what you actually like—and to stop pretending otherwise. After declining an invitation to a high-profile economic talk, he explores how often we go along with things simply because we think we’re supposed to, from market forecasts to popular books to even skiing. Through a few relatable stories, Carl invites you to notice where you might be following expectations instead of your own interests—and what it might look like to quietly, kindly choose your own path instead.
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1451 | Flaws Are Human
In this episode, Carl explores a simple idea that keeps proving true: What you think is a flaw might actually be the thing that makes your work resonate. From his hand-drawn sketches to the raw, unedited format of Behavior Gap Radio, he reflects on how the very imperfections he once tried to fix became the most meaningful parts. In a world increasingly optimized to remove friction and polish everything smooth, Carl makes the case for leaning into what’s human, messy, and real—and why that may matter now more than ever.
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1450 | The Fever Has You
In this episode, Carl explores a surprising idea from Seneca: The real shortcut to riches isn’t earning more—it’s learning to want less. Drawing from Seneca’s writings and his own experience, Carl unpacks why more money rarely leads to a lasting feeling of “enough,” and how our desires quietly expand along with our income. This isn’t about rejecting money, but about asking a deeper question: How will you know when you have enough—and what happens if you never decide?
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1449 | Poisonous Snake
In this episode, Carl shares a timeless story often told in Buddhist traditions about a piece of gold mistaken for a “poisonous snake”—and what it reveals about our relationship with money. The story isn’t about wealth being good or bad, but about perception: the gap between what something looks like and what it actually does to us. Carl reflects on how easily we chase what glitters without seeing the full consequences, and invites you to slow down long enough to ask a simple but powerful question: Am I seeing what’s really there, or just what I want to se...
1448 | Keep Up With Who?
In this episode, Carl tackles the quiet but powerful force of comparison and how it distorts the way we see our own lives. From a conversation about vacations to global data that reframes what “wealth” actually means, he explores how easily we feel behind simply because of who we’re standing next to. The real issue isn’t what we have—it’s who we’re comparing ourselves to. Carl invites you to question that comparison set, because changing it might be one of the fastest ways to change how you experience your money and your life.
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1447 | When Things Don't Go Your Way
In this episode, Carl shares a powerful lesson from Olympic silver medalist Haley Batten about what happens when things don’t go your way—and how you respond. Reflecting on her race, where setbacks like a bad start and a flat tire could have ended everything, Carl explores the idea that resilience isn’t accidental—it’s practiced. From everyday frustrations to high-stakes moments, he invites you to consider how you might train your response, creating space between stimulus and reaction so, when things fall apart, you’re ready for it.
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1446 | Durable Confidence
In this episode, Carl shares a powerful idea from Olympic silver medalist Haley Batten: the practice of building “durable confidence.” Instead of relying on vague encouragement like “be confident,” Haley describes intentionally creating evidence you can trust—through journaling, tracking wins, and capturing moments that prove you can do hard things. Carl explores how this kind of grounded confidence becomes especially valuable when things get tough, offering a way to steady yourself when doubt creeps in.
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1445 | Money as Bridge or Barrier
In this episode, Carl reflects on a simple but powerful question: When does money bring us together and when does it pull us apart? Through a memorable exchange at a local farmers market, he explores the difference between transactions that feel human and connected versus those that are optimized, abstract, and distant. Same product, completely different experience. Carl invites you to notice where money becomes a bridge—deepening relationships and community—and where it quietly becomes a barrier, creating distance in the name of convenience.
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1444 | The Power You’re Dealing With
In this episode, Carl shares a dream that left him with a simple but haunting question: Do you understand the power you’re dealing with? Reflecting on themes found across philosophy, literature, and spiritual traditions, he explores the idea that money isn’t inherently good or bad—but it is powerful, and often more powerful than we admit. Through insights inspired by voices like Austin Kleon, Carl invites you to consider how money can quietly shift from servant to master, and why awareness—not avoidance—may be the most important first step in building a healthier relationship with it.
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