The Whole Church Podcast

The episode foregrounds the Curian Network's initiative to reconceive ordination by offering credentialing and communal accompaniment to ministers who have been marginalized or constrained by conventional denominational systems. Joshua Noel conducts the interview with Jill Elizabeth and Jonathan Foster, and he elicits from them an exposition of the network's rhizomatic, relational polity, its underlying commitment to "uncontrolling love," and its practical protocols such as psychological evaluation, background checks, and reference verification. Jill conveys how the network cultivates microcommunities and pastoral care across secular and liturgical settings, while Jonathan articulates the pragmatic mechanics of application, endorsement, and the provisional timelines...

They state that J.R.R. Tolkien translated the Book of Jonah for the 1966 Jerusalem Bible, though his Jonah text was not carried into the later New Jerusalem Bible. Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell interview Nick Polk of Tolkien Pop about Tolkien’s work on that translation project. They outline how the Jerusalem Bible began as a French scholarly effort and how the New Jerusalem Bible later retranslated from Hebrew sources. Nick explains Tolkien’s background as a philologist and his work with Old English and the Oxford English Dictionary, and how that led to his being asked to tran...

They interview Jamey Jones of Rainsville Church Pew Company about the process of building and selling pews to local churches. Joshua Noel and T. J. Blackwell interrogate the artisanal and industrial methodologies by which he explicates design decisions, material selection, upholstery, and the finishing techniques that confer durability and aesthetic coherence upon sanctuary furnishings. He delineates how denominational predilections, budgetary parameters, and pragmatic concerns such as anchoring, acoustics, and modularity shape both bespoke commissions and extensive restoration projects. They examine the logistical continuum from site assessment and CAD layouts to production sequencing, delivery, and the twenty-five year structural warranty...

Friendship and companionship give purpose to labor and sustain people in work and grief. We discuss why we have missed a few weeks of the podcast, and we catch back up with Will Rose on how his Sabbatical went! Pastor Will draws on Ecclesiastes to argue that two are better than one and that friendship enriches vocation and productivity. He describes his sabbatical, its rest and reflection, and the way discernment guides where he spends his energy. Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell probe practical church logistics, volunteer roles, and the unseen work that keeps worship and community life functioning...

Joshua Noel and TJ, Tiberius Juan, Blackwell interview Pastor Ryan Green about the intricate process of preparing and orchestrating a weekly Children's Church service, emphasizing the paramount importance of intentionality and creativity in engaging young minds. He articulates that the foundation of effective ministry lies in the preparation, which not only includes meticulous planning but also the cultivation of a heartfelt connection with the children. This episode further explores how the church community can foster a supportive environment that encourages children to form meaningful relationships with God and one another. Through anecdotes and insights, Pastor Green shares his experiences...

Joshua Noel engages in a profound dialogue with Will Burton-Edwards, a representative from Cornel Zimmer Organ Builders, as they delve into the intricate process of constructing pipe organs. The conversation elucidates how these magnificent instruments are not merely functional but are vital to the worship experience, fostering a sense of unity among congregants. Burton-Edwards articulates the historical significance of pipe organs and their enduring relevance in contemporary worship settings. The discussion further explores the acoustic considerations involved in organ design and the profound impact of music on communal faith practices. Ultimately, this episode of The Whole Church Podcast reveals...

The salient point of this episode revolves around the intricate processes and personal experiences associated with church building projects, as articulated by Pastor Kenny Hibbard and Bishop Kenneth Baker. During our discourse, we delve into the multifaceted nature of these endeavors, exploring the challenges, misconceptions, and overlooked blessings inherent in the construction of church facilities. The conversation is enriched by insights from both leaders, who reflect on their respective journeys in establishing places of worship that serve as community hubs. Their narratives provide profound reflections on the spiritual significance of church buildings and the essential role they play in...

In this inaugural episode of the Holy Logistics series on The Whole Church Podcast, we engage in an illuminating dialogue with John Noel, a part-time evangelist affiliated with the Church of God of Prophecy. The discussion centers primarily on the intricate and multifaceted process of sermon preparation and delivery, emphasizing the essentiality of both spiritual guidance and rigorous study. John elucidates how prayer and scriptural mastery are pivotal in crafting messages that resonate deeply with congregations, aiming to inspire both spiritual growth and communal unity. Furthermore, he shares personal insights from his extensive experience in evangelism, highlighting the dynamics...

The discourse presented in this episode centers on the profound insights of Jason G. Green, the esteemed author of "Too Precious To Lose: A Memoir of Family, Community, and Possibility." Central to our conversation is the exploration of how Green's upbringing in a historically rich community informs his understanding of unity amidst diversity, particularly in the contemporary landscape marked by division. We delve into the transformative power of storytelling, as Green recounts the invaluable lessons imparted by his grandmother and the broader context of his community's resilience. His experiences, including his tenure as a Special Assistant to President Obama...

Rev. Robin T. Jennings elucidates the profound intersection of Celtic Christianity and the contemporary spiritual journey in his latest literary contribution, "Expressions of the Soul: Celtic Christianity and Life with God." This episode serves as a platform for an engaging dialogue that explores how the ancient practices and beliefs of Celtic Christians can inform and enrich modern faith experiences. Jennings articulates the significance of the soul's expressions and the communal aspects inherent in Celtic spirituality, urging listeners to contemplate the transformative potential of these traditions. Furthermore, he emphasizes the importance of fostering relationships, such as the concept of Anam...

Joshua Noel engages in a profound dialogue with Christian Ashley, delving into the intricate and often painful subject of Church Hurt. The conversation unfolds with Christian recounting his personal experiences of disillusionment within the church, yet emphasizes his unwavering commitment to a more conservative Christian tradition. This episode serves as a poignant exploration of how individuals can grapple with their faith amidst adversity, illustrating that the journey through hurt can lead to a more resilient belief system. We further examine the complexities of maintaining faith in a community that may harbor imperfections, asserting that personal convictions can remain steadfast...

This episode of The Whole Church Podcast elucidates the intricate relationship between evangelism and missiology, as led by TJ Blackwell. With esteemed participants including Pastor Will Rose, Christian Ashley, Michael Morelli, and Aaron Simmons, the discussion navigates through the complexities of church mission work and the diverse methodologies employed within this domain. The dialogue emphasizes the necessity of understanding the needs of the community while proclaiming the gospel, highlighting that effective evangelism transcends mere numbers and engages deeply with individuals' lived experiences. The speakers explore various theological perspectives, including the implications of doctrinal beliefs on outreach efforts, fostering a...

Chantal Morales McKinney's new book, "Following Jesus Beyond Church Walls: A Catalyst for Your Spiritual Growth," serves as a profound exploration of the intersection between personal trauma and spiritual resilience. Within this engaging dialogue, I converse with Chantal about her experiences and insights as a mystic Christian and visionary, emphasizing the importance of spiritual growth outside traditional church structures. We delve into the impact of church-related harm and the necessity for transparency and accountability within faith communities. Chantal elucidates how individuals can maintain their faith in Christ, even when disillusioned by institutional failures. Ultimately, this episode advocates for a...

The upcoming sabbatical of Pastor Will Rose serves as a focal point for this engaging dialogue on The Whole Church Podcast, wherein we explore the profound significance of rest within the Church and its potential to facilitate greater unity among congregations. In our conversation, we delve into the biblical and theological underpinnings of sabbaticals, drawing connections to the restorative nature of rest as exemplified in the scriptures. Will articulates how intentional cycles of rest not only rejuvenate the individual pastor but also empower the congregation to cultivate a shared responsibility for the church community. Through this insightful discourse, we...

The discourse centers on a critical examination of Albert Mohler's concept of theological triage, which delineates various levels of theological concern and subsequently informs our understanding of church unity. Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell engage with Tripp Fuller to explore the implications of such a framework in contemporary ecclesial contexts. They delve into how differences in theological perspectives can impact the perception of unity within the church, prompting inquiries into the nature of fellowship among believers with divergent views. Furthermore, the conversation seeks to define the parameters of church unity, whether through essential doctrines or more nuanced theological disagreements...

The forthcoming episode features an incisive dialogue with Dr. Rev. Leah Robinson, an esteemed scholar and author, who shares her insights regarding her upcoming book, "Born Perfect or Boy Erased: A Journey with Survivors of Conversion Therapy." At the forefront of our discussion is the critical examination of conversion therapy, illuminating its harrowing implications for individuals, particularly within the LGBTQ+ community. Dr. Robinson, whose academic tenure spans several prestigious institutions, brings her expertise in practical theology to bear on this pressing issue, advocating for a deeper understanding of the detrimental effects of such practices. Throughout the episode, we engage...

The central theme of this episode pivots around Dr. Thomas J. Oord's groundbreaking work, "A Systematic Theology of Love, Vol. 1." In this enlightening discourse, we delve into the profound implications of positioning love as the foundational element of theology, a radical departure from traditional paradigms that often prioritize power or divine omnipotence. Dr. Oord elucidates the necessity of love in understanding the nature of God and our relationship with the divine, asserting that love must permeate theological discourse. We further explore the accessibility of his writing, aiming to engage a diverse audience while maintaining the complexity inherent in systematic...

Rev. Dr. Sarah Hinlicky Wilson joins us to elucidate her extensive work in fostering greater Church Unity across diverse global contexts. Through her profound insights, we explore the critical necessity of speaking truthfully to one another, a practice she asserts is vital for the vitality of the Church in our contemporary, tumultuous culture. Dr. Wilson reflects on her experiences as a pastor in Japan, highlighting the unique challenges faced by Christians in a predominantly non-Christian society, and emphasizes the importance of local ecumenical relationships over abstract theological dialogues. As she articulates the imperative of grounding our ecclesiastical identities in...

Edmund's missteps in "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" spark a fascinating discussion about whether his actions nudged Aslan into a different direction. In this laid-back Easter special of Systematic Geekology, host Joshua Noel welcomes back former hosts Joe Dea and Brandon Knight for a spirited chat about Narnia. They dive into the complexities of character motivations, particularly how Edmund's betrayal and eventual redemption might have influenced the great lion himself. The trio explores deeper themes of sin, responsibility, and the mystical magic of the Narnian world, all while throwing in some clever banter and cheeky humor. Buckle...

Dr. James McGrath, an esteemed scholar and returning guest, engages in a profound dialogue with Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell regarding his latest literary endeavor, "Beyond Deconstruction: Building a More Expansive Faith." Central to this discourse is the exploration of faith reconstruction following the experience of deconstruction, a journey that many individuals navigate in contemporary religious contexts. Dr. McGrath elucidates the necessity of recognizing that faith can transcend rigid doctrinal confines, advocating for a more inclusive and expansive understanding of Christian belief. As he articulates his personal journey, he emphasizes the importance of humility and openness in fostering genuine...

The discourse at hand delves into the intricate dynamics of church unity as illuminated by the multifaceted narratives of the gaming franchise "Mass Effect." The esteemed hosts, Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell, engage in a profound dialogue with Christian Ashley, wherein they explore the vital lessons that can be gleaned from the game's thematic elements. The central thesis posits that, akin to the diverse races within the "Mass Effect" universe, the Church must strive for unity amidst its inherent differences. This episode elucidates how the principles of collaboration, mutual respect, and understanding can facilitate a more harmonious ecclesiastical environment...

We explore the profound implications of loving without hypocrisy, detesting evil, and clinging to good, as articulated in the Scriptures. The necessity of embodying love within our relationships and honoring one another emerges as pivotal, especially in the context of contemporary societal challenges. Furthermore, we engage in a critical examination of how the church ought to navigate its engagement with political structures while remaining steadfast in its commitment to justice and mercy. Through this discussion, we aim to foster an understanding of how our faith can inform and transform our interactions within both ecclesiastical and societal spheres.

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In this enlightening discourse, Mike Morelli posits that the Church's pursuit of unity necessitates a reevaluation of doctrinal priorities, emphasizing the importance of love and ethical engagement as central tenets. Drawing on Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, he asserts that true Christian doctrine should not merely delineate boundaries of inclusion and exclusion, but rather cultivate practices that reflect divine love and compassion. Morelli challenges both traditional and contemporary understandings of dogma, advocating for a return to foundational principles that unite rather than divide. He also highlights the necessity of addressing the practical implications of theology in fostering relationships, particularly...

The essence of this podcast episode resides in the profound discussion surrounding the intersection of faith and science, particularly as it pertains to the theory of evolution. Joshua and TJ interview Jim Stump, Vice President at BioLogos, whose expertise in both philosophy and science illuminates the dialogue on how evolutionary understanding can enhance one’s faith rather than undermine it. Stump articulates the significance of recognizing Christ's centrality in creation, which serves as a foundation for fostering unity among Christians amidst diverse interpretations of scripture and scientific findings. Throughout our conversation, we explore the implications of evolution for theological co...

The persecution of Christians around the globe remains a pressing issue that merits our attention and action. In this engaging dialogue, TJ Blackwell interviews Andrew Croft from Open Doors Canada, who elucidates the profound implications of standing in solidarity with our persecuted brethren. By caring for those who face adversity for their faith, we foster a deeper sense of Church unity, transcending denominational divides. Croft shares poignant narratives, including those of individuals who, despite facing grave dangers, are committed to spreading the message of Christ. This conversation not only highlights the importance of awareness surrounding global persecution but also...

"Ecclesiology on the Rocks" serves as a pivotal intersection of discourse between The Whole Church Podcast and Theology on the Rocks, marking the latter's inclusion within the Anazao Podcasts Network. In this episode, Joshua Noel chats with Dr. Rev Leah Robinson and Dr. Kristy Whaley about the distinctiveness of 'Theology on the Rocks' in relation to the other podcasts within the network. Central to the conversation is an exploration of how their theological discussions can foster unity amidst diverse perspectives. The trio delves into the implications of their shared faith experiences, as well as the challenges and joys that...

The discussion centers on the premise that fun is not merely an ancillary aspect of ministry but a fundamental component that can significantly enhance church unity. Pastor Lance Skipper articulates the notion that embracing joy within ministry fosters a more inviting atmosphere, encouraging connections among congregants. The dialogue explores the various manifestations of joy in ministry, emphasizing that a lighthearted approach can facilitate deeper relationships and understanding among church members. By reflecting on personal experiences and community interactions, we highlight the transformative power of fun and its potential to break down barriers that may exist within the church. Ultimately...

Music serves as a profound and transformative element within the animated series, "Adventure Time", illustrating its significance in storytelling and character development. As we delve into this discourse, we will explore the various ways in which music not only enhances the narrative but also fosters a sense of community among the audience. Throughout our exploration, we will acknowledge the contributions of notable creators, such as Rebecca Sugar and Ashley Eriksson, whose musical compositions resonate deeply with the show's themes of friendship, loss, and resilience. Our conversation will highlight specific episodes where music plays a pivotal role, facilitating moments of...

In this insightful episode of The Whole Church Podcast, we reestablish our annual tradition by welcoming Eric Nevins, the esteemed founder of the Christian Podcasters Association and host of the renowned "Halfway There" podcast. Our conversation primarily revolves around the current state of Christian podcasts, delving into the transformations and trends that have emerged over the past year in this rapidly evolving medium. Eric and our hosts, Joshua Noel and TJ Blackwell, engage in a thoughtful discourse, sharing their reflections on various podcasts that have captivated their attention, igniting interest and fostering dialogue among listeners. The episode serves as...

The discussion in this episode centers on the transformative work of Future Church, as articulated by our esteemed guests, Russ Petrus, Olivia Hastie, and Martha Ligas. They elucidate how Future Church endeavors to amplify marginalized voices within the Catholic Church, thereby promoting inclusivity and fostering a spirit of ecumenicism. The conversation delves into the pivotal changes that Future Church has initiated, particularly regarding the roles of women and the LGBTQ community within ecclesiastical structures. Furthermore, we explore how these efforts resonate with the broader themes of unity and reform across various Christian denominations. The insights shared by our guests...

The discussion centers on the evolution of our theological perspectives over the years, particularly the transformative insights we have garnered through our engagement with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord and others like him. We explore the shifts in our understanding of fundamental concepts such as the essence of God, humanity, and love, as well as the implications of these changes on our faith communities. Dr. Oord's contributions, particularly his work in Open and Relational Theology and insights from his forthcoming book, "A Systematic Theology of Love," serve as a backdrop for this enlightening dialogue.

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The foremost focus of this podcast episode is a thorough discussion among Joshua Noel, Christian Ashley, and Brandon Knight, regarding their individual podcasts under the Anazao Podcasts Network and their reflections on the events of 2025. They delve into their respective projects, articulating the significant developments and content that have engaged their audiences throughout the past year. As they explore their aspirations and goals for 2026, the conversation unveils an array of upcoming projects and thematic directions, promising an engaging year ahead for listeners. Each host articulates personal anecdotes and insights, fostering a sense of community and shared experience within the...

In this enlightening episode, we engage in a profound dialogue with Dr. Chris Hanson, author of "Open and Relational Parenting: Loving Parents Reflecting a Loving God." Central to our discussion is the concept that parenting, when infused with principles of open and relational theology, can reflect the loving nature of God. Dr. Hanson elucidates how traditional parenting models often conflict with contemporary psychological insights, advocating for a nurturing approach that promotes responsiveness to children's needs. Throughout the conversation, we explore the intersection of faith and parenting, emphasizing the importance of empathy and collaborative decision-making within families. This episode serves...

The discourse presented herein delves into the intricate tapestry of Christmas traditions as observed across various strands of the Christian faith. Central to our dialogue is the exploration of how these traditions have evolved, as well as their significance in contemporary society. Our esteemed guests, Father Jonathan Resmini, Pastor Dr. Peter Beck, and Professor Chris Moreland, each representing distinct theological perspectives, contribute their insights on the historical context and contemporary practices surrounding Christmas celebrations. As we traverse the past, present, and future of these traditions, we aim to elucidate the shared values that unite us amidst our diverse practices. <...

"Your Matter Matters" is an innovative podcast series developed in collaboration with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) and the Anazao Podcast Network, spearheaded by Pastors Will Rose and Thomas Johnston. This series aspires to facilitate meaningful conversations about the intersection of faith and science, providing an educational platform for small groups and churches to engage with contemporary scientific topics that resonate with the faithful community. During the interview, we delve into the motivation behind this initiative, exploring the necessity of addressing challenging questions within a theological context, particularly in a world increasingly dominated by scientific discourse. The...

In our concluding episode of the Whole Church Science Fair series, we reflect upon the profound insights garnered from our extensive discussions over the past several weeks. The salient point of our discourse centers on the harmonious coexistence of faith and science, a relationship that transcends mere compatibility and delves into the intricacies of understanding our world through both lenses. We deliberate on the integration of scientific inquiry with spiritual beliefs, examining how these dialogues can foster unity within the church community. Throughout this journey, we have engaged with diverse perspectives, each contributing to a richer narrative about our...

In this penultimate installment of our Whole Church Science Fair series, we engage in a profound dialogue with Dr. Jamie Probin, a distinguished professor at Charleston Southern University, whose academic pursuits encompass applied mathematics and theoretical physics, with a particular focus on cosmology. Central to our discourse is the Big Bang theory, which Dr. Probin articulates not as an adversary to Christian apologetics, but rather as a salient ally that complements the Christian narrative of creation. Through our conversation, we explore the harmonious relationship between scientific inquiry and faith, particularly how the Big Bang aligns with scriptural understandings of...

Neural Relational Integration emerges as a pivotal theme in our discourse, underscoring how an enriched understanding of our gut and heart brains can significantly enhance communication within faith communities. In this continuation of the Whole Church Science Fair miniseries, we engage with Dr. Shaleen Kendrick, whose expertise in neuroscience and psychology offers profound insights into the intersection of faith and the human experience. Throughout the conversation, we delve into the existence of our three brains—head, heart, and gut—examining how each contributes to our relational dynamics and spiritual lives. By focusing on the intricacies of these neural networks, we e...

Rachel Jordan joins us for a compelling exploration of the intricate relationship between faith and science, as articulated in her book "If the Ocean Has a Soul: A Marine Biologist's Pursuit of Truth through Deep Waters of Faith and Science." This episode of "The Whole Church Science Fair" delves into the profound interconnectedness of creation, emphasizing that humans are not merely observers but co-creators with Christ. We engage in a thoughtful dialogue about the beauty and complexities of marine life, drawing parallels to our spiritual journeys and the importance of understanding our environment. Rachel shares her personal experiences and...

The salient point of this podcast episode is the exploration of the microbiome and its implications for our understanding of faith, as discussed by Dr. John Pohl. In this enlightening conversation, I, Joshua Noel, engage with Dr. Pohl to uncover how the intricate world of bacteria within us can reflect and enrich our spiritual lives. We delve into the interconnectedness of all life forms, drawing parallels between the health of our microbiome and the communal nature of the Church, as illustrated in scripture, particularly in Paul's epistle to the Corinthians. Dr. Pohl articulates how our collective existence, much like...