The Open Nesters
We are the Open Nesters. We are the Baby Boomers and Gen X’ers who reject the traditional roles that our parents played and the empty nest syndrome. We defy the stigma of ageism, ailing health, empty retirement and a passionless sex life. Together we explore the journey of re-discovering and reinventing our lives as our grown children leave the nest. We hear about the sides of people that have been left unexplored during a long-term marriage. The mysteries, fantasies and unmet desires and needs are laid wide open at this juncture in their lives. Their empty-nesting chapter in life is...
Sex and Laughter (S5 | E204)

Sex and Laughter with Joyce Saltman
(Season 5 | Episode 204)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, I explore the joy and laughter that come with the journey of aging and the phenomenon of open nesting. Conversing with my dear friend and mentor, Joyce Saltman, we dive deep into the many aspects of what it means to embrace life after our children have flown the coop. Joyce, an inspiring figure who seamlessly blends wit and wisdom, shares her experiences and insights from her life, including her personal adventures in dating, relationships, and the challenges...
Resilient Hearts, Perfect Match (S5 | E203)

Resilient Hearts, Perfect Match (S5 | E203)
The Open Nesters Podcast
Darcy and Gary
In this eye-opening two-part episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve into the transformative journey of our guests, Darcy and Gary, who have successfully navigated the complexities of grief, love, and personal growth in the open nesting phase of their lives. As they share their powerful stories, we explore how they have redefined what it means to edge into new beginnings, emphasizing that being an open nester is about embracing life’s possibilities rather than feeling empty.
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The Strap On: We Discuss (S5 | E202)

Buckle Up and Strap On (S5 | E202)
The Open Nesters Podcast
Two Sex Educators, One Goal – Give Us All The Opportunity to Expand Our Sexual Horizons
In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, Amir and Tessa introduce the concept of “open nesting,” redefining the experience of becoming an empty nester as an opportunity to embrace new adventures, relationships, and passions in the third act of life. They dive deep into the topic of sexuality and personal growth, bringing back an exciting encore from Season 2 featuring sex educators Reed Mahalko and Allison Moon...
Joy Among My Tears (S5 | E201)
Joy Among My Tears (S5 | E201)
with Guest: Audrey Carlson
The Journey of Healing Through Loss
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve deep into the incredible journey of resilience and growth through immense tragedy with our guest, Audrey Carlson. A mother, grandmother, and a source of inspiration, Audrey shares her poignant story of navigating profound loss while cultivating a life filled with gratitude and purpose. We explore the concept of open nesting—embracing the freedom and opportunities that come in the later stages of life rather than vi...
Not Your Grandmother’s Monogamy (S5 | E200)

Not Your Grandma’s Monogamy (S5 | E200)
The Open Nesters Podcast
Dr. Tammy Nelson | Not Your Grandmother’s Monogamy
[Tessa] In this episode, we revisit a compelling conversation with Dr. Tammy Nelson, a prominent sex therapist and author of “Open Monogamy.” I had the distinct pleasure of discussing the dynamic landscape of relationships, particularly the concepts of polyamory and open relationships, and how they can lead to deeper happiness and fulfillment for some individuals, especially women. Dr. Nelson provides insightful perspectives on the evolving definitions of monogamy and emphasizes that non-monogamous arrangements are not...
Aging and Dating with Amir (S5 | E199)

Changing Aging
(The Open Nesters Podcast Season 5 | Episode 199)
Changing Aging
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, Amir takes the reins to share his personal journey regarding aging and dating as he reflects on turning 70. He expresses both excitement and a touch of nervousness at the prospect of hosting an episode solo for the first time. With Tessa, the usual guide and producer, cheering him on, Amir dives deep into the emotional landscape of aging, unveiling his transition from fearing his age to embracing it.
As Amir recounts...
Changing Aging (S5 | E198)
Changing Aging
(The Open Nesters Podcast Season 5 | Episode 198)
Changing Aging
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive deep into the transformative journey of redefining what it means to be an open nester, guided by the insights of Dr. Bill Thomas and his daughter Jude Thomas. We explore the multifaceted dimensions of aging, tackling the misconception that this stage of life is marked solely by decline. Instead, we present it as an opportunity for growth, adventure, and enrichment in every aspect of life, including relationships, spirituality, and creativity.
<...Dating, Ghosted and Opening after 60 (S5 | E197)
Dating, Ghosted and Opening after 60 (S5 | E197)
[Tessa]
This episode features an enlightening conversation with Shakti Sundari, who shares her transformative experiences as a single mother and her journey into self-discovery and conscious dating. Living in Glastonbury, UK, Shakti brings a unique perspective on parenting, relationships, and personal growth after dedicating over twenty years to teaching sexual and spiritual awakening for women. As her children have grown into young adults, she embraces her transition into a new phase of life, emphasizing that the empty nest is not a void but a space of endless...
“Open Nest”: Redefining Love After Children Leave Home (S5 | E196)

“Open Nest”: Redefining Love After Children Leave Home (S5 | E196)
[Tessa]
As children leave the home, parents often find themselves at a new life stage, ripe for rediscovering themselves and their relationships. This is the essence of being an “open nester,” a mindset that embraces new adventures and possibilities in love, intimacy, and connection. Sumati Sparks, our guide, highlights the importance of releasing outdated beliefs and societal programming. She encourages a deeper understanding of personal desires and the freedom that can come with exploring consensual non-monogamy. Sumati carefully distinguishes between open rel...
Bella Brooks: How Divorce Led to Self-Discovery and Open Relationships (S5 | E195)

Bella Brooks: How Divorce Led to Self-Discovery and Open Relationships (S5 | E195)
[Tessa]
In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve into the transformative journey of open nesting and the richness of personal relationships with Bella Brooks, a sexuality educator and intimacy coach. Bella shares her compelling story of rediscovery following her divorce in 2017, which became a pivotal moment that propelled her into exploring her identity as a part-time empty nester. This experience opened a new chapter in her life, leading her to embrace polyamory and to learn how to navigate relationships...
How to Celebrate Your Hot Flashes (S5 | E194)

How to Celebrate Your Hot Flashes (S5 | E194)
Beyond the Hot Flashes: Embracing the “Open Nester” Life Through Menopause and Beyond
[Tessa]
Welcome back, Open Nesters! Tessa here, and I’m thrilled to take you on a journey revisiting one of our most impactful episodes to date: Episode 33, where we dove deep into the often-misunderstood world of menopause. This conversation was truly special, and it resonated with so many of you, so I felt it was essential to bring some of those powerful insights back to the forefront.
Our in...
Best Sex Ever After Menopause (S5 | E193)

Best Sex Ever After Menopause (S5 | E193)
with Dr. Carol Remz
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive into the transformative journey of aging gracefully while embracing our sexuality and vitality. As open nesters, we explore the notion that life is full of possibilities beyond the constraints of a traditional empty nest. Our guest, Dr. Carol Remz, an inspiring 80-year-old author, shares her rich insights from her critically acclaimed book, “The Best Sex Ever After Menopause.” We discuss the myriad ways women can reclaim their sensuality after significant life changes such...
Pat Whitty on Finding Purpose at Any Age (S5 | E192)

Finding Purpose at Any Age (S5 | E192)
with Pat Whitty
[Tessa] In this episode of the Open Nester podcast, we revisit a heartfelt conversation with Pat Whitty, a cherished voice from the Modern Elder Academy, who shares profound insights accumulated over his 78-year journey. Pat emphasizes the importance of slowing down amidst the chaos of life, allowing for deep reflection on connection, meaning, purpose, and legacy, which he believes are essentials for continual growth at any age.
2:53 Coaching and Personal Development 5:48 Transitioning into Chapter Four 12:48 Mindset and Self-Discovery 25:31 Nature and Metaphors for Life 39:54...From Empty to Open: Reimagining Family Bonds in the Nesting Transition (S5 | E191)

From Empty to Open: Reimagining Family Bonds in the Nesting Transition
with Zev Aaron (S5 | E191)
[Tessa] Zev Aaron, Transformational Coach, brings such a profound understanding to family life. Being the youngest of a big, blended family, he got a front-row seat to the whole “empty nest” journey even before it was his turn. He watched his parents navigate it as the last of his siblings left, and that really shaped his perspective. From a special education teacher to a Yale researcher, his path led him to become this amazing family coach. He’s not a...
My Adult Child Won’t Talk to Me: Finding Hope and a Path Forward (S5 | E190)

My Adult Child Won’t Talk to Me:
Finding Hope and a Path Forward (S5 | E190)
[Tessa] In this episode, we delve deeply into the sensitive topic of parent-child estrangement with Dr. Joshua Coleman, an established expert in the field and the author of the impactful book, *Rules of Estrangement: Why Adult Children Cut Ties and How to Heal the Conflict*. Joined by Jonathan Pellett, a filmmaker and a father who has personally experienced the pain of estrangement with his daughter, we explore the complex emotions surrounding this issue. Dr. Coleman reflects on his ow...
Radical Living & the Big Ass Calendar: Marni Batista on Open Nesting, Intentional Living, and Midlife Reinvention (S5 | E189)

Radical Living & the Big Ass Calendar: Marni Batista on Open Nesting, Intentional Living, and Midlife Reinvention
Open Nesters Podcast Episode (S5 | E189)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, I had the pleasure of welcoming back Marni Batista, who has recently released her insightful book on radical living and personal growth. Our conversation delved into the transformative concept of open nesting—a mindset shift that encourages embracing new adventures and relationships as we transition into this next phase of life. Our discussion highlighted how this period can be an opportunity for rediscovery, fo...
Awakening the Feminine (S5 | E188)

Awakening the Feminine: Moira Cormack on Tantra, Motherhood & Empowerment after 50
Open Nesters Podcast Episode (S5 | E188)
[Tessa] Moira Cormack, a passionate advocate for womanhood and personal evolution, shares her transformative journey in an engaging conversation recorded at the Open Nesters podcast.
Set against the picturesque backdrop of Moira’s Edinburgh, Scotland, the interview delves deep into our guest’s experiences as a mother of four daughters and her exploration of femininity, personal empowerment, and the practice of Tantra. From her early days of motherhood—raising twins as a young woman who had just m...
Reinventing Life After 50: Maria Leonard Olsen on Resilience, Sobriety, and Embracing Change – Open Nesters Podcast Episode (S5 | E187)

Reinventing Life After 50: Maria Leonard Olsen on Resilience, Sobriety, and Embracing Change
Open Nesters Podcast Episode (S5 | E187)
[Tessa] In this episode of the Open Nesters podcast, we engage in an enlightening discussion with Maria Leonard Olsen, a dynamic figure whose journey of transformation resonates powerfully with those navigating life’s challenges, especially after 50. Maria, a litigator and author of the book “50 After 50: Reframing the Next Chapter of Your Life,” shares her story of resilience and reinvention following significant life changes, including a divorce, sobriety, and the transition of becoming an empty nester.
Mari...
The Grace of Growing Older: Embracing Elderhood and Sacred Time
The Grace of Growing Older: Embracing Elderhood and Sacred Time (S5 | E186)
with Rabbi Dayle A. Friedman
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, I had the privilege of hosting Rabbi Dayle Friedman, whose rich spiritual insights on aging and the transition into open nesting resonate deeply with those seeking meaning in this new stage of life. Rabbi Friedman, an experienced rabbi and spiritual director, shares her journey, exploring the profound opportunities for connection, reflection, and personal growth that accompany the aging process.
Learn more about Rabbi Dayle A. Friedman...
Rediscovering Desire: A Conversation with Sex Educator Pamela Madsen (S5 | E185)

Rediscovering Desire: A Conversation with Sex Educator Pamela Madsen (S5 | E185)
[Tessa] In this episode of Open Nesters, we celebrate the fifth anniversary of our podcast with a revisit to one of our most impactful episodes featuring Pamela Madsen, a notable author and educator known for her work in sensuality and personal growth. I have the privilege of having Pamela share her insights into the liberating journey of embracing our somatic truth as we age, which is particularly resonant for women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s who find themselves navigating transitions in both body and...
Rediscovering Purpose: How Adventure Travel Helped This Empty Nester Heal, Grow, and Thrive (S5 | E184)

Rediscovering Purpose: How Adventure Travel Helped This Empty Nester Heal, Grow, and Thrive (S5 | E184)
with Stacey Funt
[Tessa] This episode features an enlightening conversation with Stacey Funt, a physician, radiologist, and adventure traveler who offers deep insights into navigating the transition of becoming an open nester. Stacey shares her personal journey, which includes embracing the unexpected challenges that come with this life stage, particularly the grief following the loss of family members and the departure of her children to college. As a new empty nester, she begins to confront her own mortality, a...
THE RADIO VAGABOND (FULL EPISODE – S5 | E183)

THE RADIO VAGABOND (FULL EPISODE – S5 | E183)
with Palle Bo
THE RADIO VAGABOND – EPISODE 205
[Tessa] While Amir and I are busy at work making more Open Nester Podcast episodes for you, we are thrilled to share this episode from The Radio Vagabond.
The Radio Vagabond is a travel podcast created and hosted by Danish radio producer Palle Bo. In 2016, at the age of 50, Bo made the life-changing decision to sell his house, car, and nearly all his possessions to become a full-time digital nomad, with the ambitious goal of visiting ever...
AN END TO ARGUING (S5 | E182)

AN END TO ARGUING (S5 | E182)
with Linda and Charlie Bloom
In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve into the transformative journey of couples as they transition from traditional empty nesting to a more expansive and vibrant phase, which we call open nesting. I’m excited to introduce Linda and Charlie Bloom, seasoned social workers, educators, and authors with a wealth of experience in nurturing deeper relationships. Married since 1972, they bring to our discussion profound insights gleaned from their enduring bond and extensive professional background.
AN END TO ARGUING
Love Relationship & Sexuality Sampler

Love Relationship & Sexuality Sampler
[Tessa] In this sampler episode of Open Nesters, Tessa and Amir explore how couples can rekindle intimacy and redefine relationships as children leave home, sharing strategies and real-life insights for navigating this transformative phase. It’s a Love Relationship & Sexuality Sampler.
Relationships, Love and Sexuality
In this special sampler episode of the Open Nesters podcast, we take a reflective journey through our four seasons, focusing on the most impactful themes that resonate with our listeners — relationships, love, and sexuality. As Tessa and Amir, we dive into the...
“Embracing Aging: Ashton Applewhite on Fighting Ageism, Wisdom, and the Joys of Act III

“Embracing Aging: Ashton Applewhite on Fighting Ageism, Wisdom, and the Joys of Act III
An Open Nesters Encore Presentation
In this episode, Amir and I reflect on the conclusion of Season One and the upcoming content that delves deeper into key topics surrounding aging. The focus here pivots to the enlightening conversation with Ashton Applewhite, an advocate against ageism and author of “This Chair Rocks: A Manifesto Against Ageism.”
“Embracing Aging: Ashton Applewhite on Fighting Ageism, Wisdom, and the Joys of Act III
Deepen Your Relationships with AI
Deepen Your Relationships with AI
An Introduction to the Bonds App (S5 | E181)
Deepen Your Relationships with AI
In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive into the transformative concept of “open nesting,” which invites listeners to embrace new adventures, relationships, and passions during this exciting life stage. We challenge the notion of being an empty nester, celebrating instead the rich possibilities that come with reimagining our lives as our children transition into adulthood. As the conversation unfolds, I introduce Daphna and Lior, founders of an innovative new app...
Loving Without Boundaries with Kitty Chambliss

Loving Without Boundaries
with Kitty Chambliss (S5 | E180)
In this episode of Loving Without Boundaries, hosted by Kitty Chambliss, Tessa and Amir from the Open Nesters podcast return for an enlightening reunion after four years since their last appearance. Their previous discussion focused on their burgeoning journey into polyamory, and now, they reflect on how their understanding and experience have deepened over time. With the passage of four years filled with growth, exploration, and profound transformations in their relationships, Tessa and Amir share the lessons they’ve gleaned and the ways their pr...
Revealing Pleasure – The P.A.R.N. Approach to Play and Intimacy with Steve and Shane

Revealing Pleasure – The P.A.R.N. Approach to Play and Intimacy
with Steve and Shane (S5 | E179)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive deep into the concept of “open nesting,” a refreshing take on the empty nest phase of life. Instead of viewing the absence of children as a void, we explore how it can lead to an abundance of new experiences, connections, and personal growth. Amir and I had the pleasure of welcoming back Shane Kulman, one of our favorite guests from Season One, who is join...
Authentic Aging & Sensuality After Empty Nest | Maria DiSalvo Interview (S5 | E177)

Authentic Aging & Sensuality After Empty Nest
Maria DiSalvo Interview (S5 | E177)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive into the vibrant life of Maria DiSalvo, whose journey exemplifies the essence of being an open nester.
With her children grown and launched into their own lives, Maria embodies the philosophy of embracing new adventures, relationships, and passions that come with this transformative stage. Our conversation serves as an engaging introduction to our Love and Sexuality Month, exploring the personal and societal narratives surrounding intimacy and self-discovery.
<...Reflections on Transcendence and Growth (S5 | E176)

Reflections on Transcendence and Growth
with Tessa
(Season 5 | Episode 176)
[Tessa] Welcome welcome 2025. Such a year this is going to be for us all!!!
In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, I dive into the concept of open nesting, redefining this phase of life as not merely an empty nest but a vibrant stage filled with new adventures, relationships, and revitalized passions. I share a few reflections on the recent challenges faced by many, particularly due to the devastating fires in California, and emphasize the importance of addressing fundamental human...
Tessa and Amir Season 5 (S5 | E175)

Tessa and Amir Season 5
(Season 5 | Episode 175)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we continue to reimagine open nesting as we reflect on our journey into Season 5.
Open nesting, a mindset that embraces new adventures, relationships, and passions, rather than viewing an empty nest as a loss.
Join us, Tessa and Amir, as we explore how we have navigated the past year, celebrating the milestones and the insightful conversations that have enriched our lives.
As we wind down Season 4 and look ahead to 2025, we share the...
Thin Threads Where Creativity Meets Risk with Kevin Frest (S4 | E174)

Thin Threads Where Creativity Meets Risk
with Kevin Frest
(Season 4 | Episode 174)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we have an enlightening conversation with Kevin Frest, a leading publisher, agent and photographer. Kevins’ career is extremely interesting. In Kevin’s own words:
I came from Gary, Indiana. I had to go somewhere so I chose San Francisco thinking I might end up in New York. I started this whole international publishing company….
The big takeaway for me is seize the day, do it, and don’t wait and...
Kids, Identity and Thanksgiving (S3 | E143)
Kids, Identity and Thanksgiving
with Tessa and Amir
(Season 3 | Episode 143)
[TESSA] On the surface it is a joyous American celebration. Thanksgiving. Yet dangers lurk in this annual gathering of family around the table.
Today we spend some time working through the relationships we have with our older children. When the ties are strained or even broken Thanksgiving can be a dark holiday. In our wonderfully open society, it could be that kids come out at Thanksgiving. Or we learn that they are exploring new sexual and relationship paths that we...
The Emotional Path with Dr. Dawson Church (S4 | E173)

The Emotional Path
MIND SPIRIT MEDITATE with Dr. Dawson Church
(Season 4 | Episode 173)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we have an enlightening conversation with Dr. Dawson Church, a leading expert on the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and neuroscience. We delve into the rich themes surrounding the idea of open nesting, a mindset that encourages exploration and growth as we navigate what many refer to as the ’empty nest’ phase of life. Dr. Church introduces the concept of resilience, emphasizing how our later years can be filled with vitality, purpose, joy...
Aging and Eroticism (S4 | E172)

Aging and Eroticism
with Anne More
(Season 4 | Episode 172)
[Tessa] In this episode, we engage with Anne More, a returning guest whose insights on aging and eroticism resonate deeply with our journey as open nesters. We explore the concept of “open nesting”—a vibrant approach to life after children have left home.
This discussion is enriched by Anne’s expertise in boundaries, sensuality, and the celebration of aging. Our focus is not just on surviving this stage of life, but thriving by opening ourselves up to new possibilities in relationships, passions, and self...
Playing with the Unexpected with Laura & Izzy

Playing with the Unexpected
with Laura & Izzy
(Season 4 | Episode 171)
[Tessa] In this episode of the Open Nesters podcast we’re playing with the unexpected!
What a rich conversation with Laura and Izzy!! This is a dynamic couple who embody the evolving landscape of relationships after Laura’s children left the nest. The discussion dives deep into the challenges and triumphs of navigating life in Act 3, exploring themes of family obligations, autonomy, and the complexities of a non-traditional partnership.
Laura, previously married with two grown children and grandchildren, reflects on h...
Your Pleasurespan

Normalizing Sexuality, Aging and Menopause
What is Your Pleasurespan?
(Season 4 | Episode 170)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we dive deep into the vibrant world of open relationships with returning guests CJ, Linwood and their partner April. Our conversation explores the transformative experiences of modern relationships, particularly as they relate to the concept of “open nesting.” We are reminded that entering this new chapter of life offers not an end, but endless possibilities, exciting adventures, and rich connections.
EPISODE TIME-CODE
4:58 Building Trust in Relationships 15:10 The Concept of Plea...Mission & Minimalism Finding Freedom & Meaningful Connections

Finding Freedom & Meaningful Connections
Mission & Minimalism in the Empty Nest with Cameron Syke
(Season 4 | Episode 169)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, I sit down with Cameron Syke, a man whose journey through the complexities of relationships and personal growth perfectly embodies the spirit of the open nesting philosophy. We explore how this stage of life, often viewed through a lens of emptiness, can instead be a doorway to newfound adventures, friendships, and deeper life meanings. Cameron’s story is not only heartfelt; it holds valuable lessons about love, loss, an...
Body Wisdom Aging Sex & Self with Suzanne Noble

Body Wisdom Aging Sex & Self
with Suzanne Noble
(Season 4 | Episode 168)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we explore the transformative journey of embracing aging, sexuality, and new adventures with our guest, Suzanne Noble. Our conversation dives deep into the heart of what it means to be an “open nester,” a term that celebrates the possibilities that come with the children leaving home while rejecting the label of “empty nester.” I am thrilled to welcome Suzanne back as we discuss her insights on evolving relationships with passion and vitality in our late...
Self Expression in Open Love with Tessa & Amir

Self Expression in Open Love with Tessa & Amir
with Tessa & Amir
(Season 4 | Episode 167)
[Tessa] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we explore the concept of embracing an open life during our third act, challenging the traditional narrative of being an empty nester. Together, Amir and I delve into the thrilling possibilities of adventure, personal growth, and the deepening of relationships that come with this stage of life.
We discuss how redefining our identities can open our hearts and homes to new experiences, friendships, and even aspects of sensuality...