That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Part 33” (Season 20, Episode 14), investigate the Mary Winkler case involving the 2006 shooting of her husband, and interview the fascinating Amy Rutberg.

SOURCES:
ABC News 1
ABC News 2
Wikipedia - Mary Winkler
NBC News
CBS News
The New York Times

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Emotional and Psychological Abuse - WomensLaw.org

Next week’s episode will be “At Midnight in Manhattan” (Season 21, Episode 5).

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This week, Kara and Liza recap “Gimmick” (Season 27, Episode 18), discuss the grotesque sex trafficking and sexual abuse cases involving WWE co-founder Vince McMahon, and interview the delightful Jesse La Flair.

SOURCES:
NBC News 1
NBC News 2
Axios
ABC 7 Chicago
Lawsuit Information Center
LGBTQ Nation
DiCello Levitt
POST Wrestling
Courthouse News Service 1
Courthouse News Service 2
ESPN
CNBC

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Mr. McMahon - Netflix Docuseries

Next week’s episode will be “Part 33" (Season 20, Episode 14). 

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Today, Liza and Kara cover the episode “The Long Arm of the Witness” (Season 22, Episode 6), discuss the controversial Senate confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, and interview the fantastic Josh Stamberg (Drop Dead Diva, WandaVision).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The Washington Post
Wikipedia - Brett Kavanaugh
PBS
Time

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One Way Back by Christine Blasey Ford

Next week’s episode will be “Gimmick” (Season 27, Episode 18). 

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Complicated” (Season 19, Episode 5), discuss the confounding death of Kacie Aleece Peterson, and interview the wonderful actor and coffee shop friend of Liza, Kellie Overbey.

SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
6ABC
New York Post
CNN
Kitsap Sun
Echovita

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A is For

Next week’s episode will be “The Long Arm of the Witness” (Season 22, Episode 6).

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Personal Fouls” (Season 13, Episode 2), investigate the crimes of real-life basketball coach and pedophile Ernest Lorch, and interview the legendary Dan Lauria (The Wonder Years).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
ESPN
Sportico
Rolling Stone
New York Daily News

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The Predator in the Church Basement

Next week’s episode will be “Complicated” (Season 19, Episode 5).

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This week, Kara and Liza recap “Spectacle” (Season 12, Episode 16) and discuss the unbelievable kidnapping of Delimar Vera.

SOURCES:
KHQ
Northwest Public Broadcasting
The Spokesman-Review
Idaho Press
HubPages
The New York Times
The Chicago Tribune
CNN
NBC News
The Guardian
Fox News
The Philadelphia Inquirer

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Cold Case Foundation

Next week’s episode will be “Personal Fouls" (Season 13, Episode 2). 

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Today, Kara and Liza cover the episode “I Thought You Were on My Side” (Season 23, Episode 3), discuss the multiple Ron Jeremy sexual assault cases, and interview the wonderful Danielle Moné Truitt (Law & Order: Organized Crime).

SOURCES:
QNS
NBC New York
New York Daily News
New York Post
Department of Justice
PBS
NPR
NBC Los Angeles
Fox 10 Phoenix
Tampa Bay Times
The New York Times

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Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press

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This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “In the Wind” (Season 27, Episode 1), discuss the horrific murderer/ landlord Kim Kyu-soo, and interview the incredible immigration lawyer and podcaster Michael Foote. Michael is the host of the Exactly Right podcast ‘Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast’ and on this episode he sheds some light on the ongoing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement crisis.

SOURCES:
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Deportation in the second Trump administration
The Guardian
BBC 1
BBC 2
BBC 3
BBC 4
The Independent

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Burning With Rage Forever” (Season 23, Episode 11), investigate the Roblox child predator controversies, and interview the phenomenal Christian Navarro (13 Reasons Why).

SOURCES:
The Daily Telegraph 1
The Daily Telegraph 2
ABC News 1
ABC News 2
NBC News 1
NBC News 2
CBS News
Wikipedia - Child safety on Roblox
The New York Times
ENOUGH ABUSE
Lifehacker

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Breck Foundation
Roblox Isn't a Game

Next week’s episode will be “In the Wind” (Season 27, Episode 1).

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This week, Kara and Liza recap “Facing Demons” (Season 20, Episode 16), discuss the former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert's sexual abuse cases, and interview the incredible William Sadler.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Dennis Hastert
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
PBS 1
PBS 2
PBS 3
DuPage County Bar Association
ABC7 1
ABC7 2
Daily Mail
New York Post
NBC News

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Sexual Violence and the Coach–Athlete Relationship

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Today, Liza and Kara celebrate their 300th episode by recapping “Bang” (Season 12, Episode 22), discussing the wild Keith MacDonald (a.k.a. "Love Rat Dad") case, and interviewing the iconic John Stamos.

SOURCES:
Daily Mail
Daily Mirror
WomensLaw.org
1800RESPECT
CTV News

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Food Bank for New York City

Next week’s episode will be “Facing Demons” (Season 20, Episode 16). 

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Guardians and Gladiators” (Season 22, Episode 1), discuss the infuriating Central Park birdwatching incident, and interview the lovely Stephen Wallem (Nurse Jackie).

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
The New York Times 6
The New York Times 7
Newsweek
CNN

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Better Living Through Birding

Next week’s episode will be “Bang” (Season 12, Episode 22).

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Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Weak” (Season 6, Episode 9) and investigate the horrific crimes of Chicago mass murderer Richard Speck.

SOURCES:
The Pennsylvania Gazette
Wikipedia - Troy Graves
The Marshall Project
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Wikipedia - Richard Speck
Chicago History Museum
Time
CBS News

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Women’s Law Project

Next week’s episode will be “Guardians and Gladiators” (Season 22, Episode 1).

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This week, Kara and Liza recap “Welcome to the Pedo Motel” (Season 22, Episode 10), discuss the infuriatingly tragic Ahmaud Arbery case, and interview the delightful Victoria Lily Robertson.

SOURCES:
CNN
The Guardian 1
The Guardian 2
U.S. Department of Justice
The Florida Times-Union
ACLU Georgia
CBS News
The New York Times
A&E
FBI
The Seattle Times

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National Reentry Resource Center

Next week’s episode will be “Weak" (Season 6, Episode 9). 

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Today, Liza and Kara tackle the episode “Child's Welfare” (Season 13, Episode 16), discuss the truly horrific kidnapping of Jaycee Dugard, and interview the wonderful Michael Weston (aka Simon, Olivia Benson’s brother). 

SOURCES:
CBS News
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
Wikipedia - Kidnapping of Jaycee Dugard
ABC News 1
ABC News 2
The Mercury News
20/20
People

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A Stolen Life: A Memoir by Jaycee Dugard

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Swimming With The Sharks” (Season 21, Episode 15) and discuss the infuriating Seemona Sumasar and Jerry Ramrattan case. Plus, they interview the incredibly talented Radha Mitchell.

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
CNN
ABC 7 1
ABC 7 2
ABC 7 3
6 ABC
CBS News
Oxygen
The New York Post

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Teacher Wish Lists

Next week’s episode will be “Child's Welfare” (Season 13, Episode 16).

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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “Assumptions” (Season 20, Episode 23), investigate the January 2019 confrontation at the Lincoln Memorial, and chat with the brilliant Nazneen Contractor.

SOURCES:
CNN 1
CNN 2
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
The Guardian
NPR
ABC News
First Amendment Watch 1
First Amendment Watch 2
Politico

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Combatants for Peace

Next week’s episode will be “Swimming With the Sharks” (Season 21, Episode 15).

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This week, Liza and Kara recap “Star-Struck Victims” (Season 17, Episode 16). They discuss the dozens of horrific rape allegations against Bill Cosby. And to cleanse the palate, they chat with the wonderful Craig Bierko.

SOURCES:
CNN
Action News 5
Yahoo
The Hollywood Reporter
Wikipedia - Bill Cosby sexual assault cases
Philadelphia Magazine
The Daily Beast
USA Today
The New York Times

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‘I’m No Longer Afraid’: 35 Women Tell Their Stories About Being Assaulted by Bill Cosby, and the Culture That Wouldn’t Listen

Today, Liza and Kara tackle the classic SVU episode “Savant” (Season 9, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre crimes of wife-murderer Jonathan Nyce.

SOURCES:
The New York Times
NBC News
The Reporter
NBC Philadelphia
American Veterinary Medical Association
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
Forensic Files Now

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Help Nelson and Ariel Through ICE Detention Crisis

Next week’s episode will be “Star-Struck Victims” (Season 17, Episode 16). 

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Murdered at a Bad Address” (Season 21, Episode 6) and discuss the scandal surrounding corrupt cop Louis N. Scarcella. Plus, they interview the wonderful Happy Anderson.

SOURCES:
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
The New York Times 3
The New York Times 4
The New York Times 5
Wikipedia - Louis Scarcella
KTLA
ABC 7
CBS News
6ABC
Courthouse News Service
The Innocence Center
The San Diego Union-Tribune

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The Frederick Doug...

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Devastating Story” (Season 16, Episode 18), investigate the retracted "A Rape on Campus" article published in Rolling Stone magazine, and chat with the delightful Ally Ioannides.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - 2007 De Anza College rape investigation
The Guardian
ABC 7 News
Wikipedia - A Rape on Campus
Washington Post
BBC
NPR 1
NPR 2
Rolling Stone
WTVR

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End Rape on Campus

Next week’s episode will be “Murdered at a Bad Address” (Season 21, Episode 6).

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This week, Kara and Liza recap a two-part episode, “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 2 & 21). They discuss the real-life racially motivated murder by Adam Purinton. And to cap off the episode, they interview the fabulous Poorna Jagannathan.

SOURCES:
PBS
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
AL.com
Center for Immigration Studies

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The Shoulder to Shoulder Campaign

Next week’s episode will be “Devastating Story" (Season 16, Episode 18). 

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Today, Liza and Kara tackle the disturbing episode “Angels” (Season 4, Episode 6), NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), and the horrific real-life work of psychologist and sexologist Helmut Kentler.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Helmut Kentler
The New Yorker

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The German Experiment That Placed Foster Children with Pedophiles by Rachel Aviv

Next week’s episode will be “American Dream” & “Sanctuary” (Season 18, Episodes 20 & 21). 

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This week, Kara and Liza break down the SVU episode, “Motherly Love” (Season 18, Episode 10) and discuss the upsetting crimes of pedophile teacher Pamela Joan Rogers. Plus, they interview the delightful Sarah Wynter. 

SOURCES:
CBS News 1
CBS News 2
NBC New York
ABC 7 New York
Spectrum News New York 1
New York Daily News 1
New York Daily News 2
Tennessee Sex Offender Registry
The Court Of Appeals Of Tennessee At Nashville
NBC News
New York Post

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12 Signs of Narcissistic Abuse Syndrome (and How t...

Today, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode “Venom” (Season 7, Episode 18), investigate the historic Raymond Levi Cobb case, and chat with the legendary Joe Grifasi.

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
Office of the Solicitor General - U.S. Department of Justice
Vanishing Act: The Hunt for Margaret and Cory Ray
Wikipedia - Texas v. Cobb

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DSA-LA Voter Guide

Next week’s episode will be “Motherly Love” (Season 18, Episode 10).

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This week, Kara and Liza recap the episode “Bound” (Season 5, Episode 23) and discuss two different murderers - Dorothea Puente (a.k.a. "The Death House Landlady") and Charles Cullen (a.k.a. "The Killer Nurse")

SOURCES:
World’s Most Evil Killers
CNN
The New York Times

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Capturing the Killer Nurse

Next week’s episode will be “Venom" (Season 7, Episode 18). 

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Today, Liza and Kara tackle the episode “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4) and the real-life issue of increasing numbers of youth sexual non-fatal (and fatal) strangulation cases. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the amazing Zak Orth.

SOURCES:
BBC 1
BBC 2
Psychology Today 1
Psychology Today 2
News Medical
Alliance for HOPE International

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How to talk to kids about porn

Next week’s episode will be “Bound” (Season 5, Episode 23). 

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This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Mea Culpa” (Season 20, Episode 9) and discuss the infamous murder of Stanford White by Harry Kendall Thaw following the rape of Evelyn Nesbit. Plus, they interview the wonderful George Newbern. 

SOURCES:
BBC
The New York Times
Wikipedia - Evelyn Nesbit
Library of Congress
Avenue Magazine

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The Tragic Life of Evelyn Nesbit: The Murder That Shocked America

Next week’s episode will be “Constricted” (Season 26, Episode 4).

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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the SVU episode “Recall” (Season 8, Episode 3) and investigate the horrific crimes and lack of justice involved with the case of serial rapist Melvin Carter (a.k.a. "The College Terrace Rapist").

SOURCES:
CNN
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Orlando Sentinel
WIS News 10
The Seattle Times
Long Beach Press-Telegram
The Mercury News
The New York Times
SFGATE
13WHAM ABC Rochester
Division of Criminal Justice Services - New York State
Country of Livingston, New York
The Daily News

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This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13) and discuss the case involving Jamill Jones fatally one-punching Sandor Szabo.

SOURCES:
The New York State Senate 1
The New York State Senate 2
True Crime News
PIX11 News
ESPN
People
The News & Observer
Los Angeles Times
The New York Times

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YWCA USA

Next week’s episode will be “Recall" (Season 8, Episode 3). 

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Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15) and the confounding Tracy Roberson case. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the iconic Carolyn McCormick.

SOURCES:
NBC News
ABC News
ABC7 Amarillo
Court Of Appeals Second District Of Texas Fort Worth
Fort Worth Star-Telegram

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The Mental Health Coalition

Next week’s episode will be “Redemption in Her Corner” (Season 21, Episode 13). 

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This week, Liza and Kara break down the SVU episode, “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20) and discuss the real-life story of prolific sperm donor Ben Seisler. Plus, they interview the delightful Eric Close.

SOURCES:
Daily Mail
Salon
Wikipedia - Genetic sexual attraction
Wikipedia - Westermarck effect
ABC7
Time
Center for Genetics and Society

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Families Rising

Next week’s episode will be “Deadly Ambition” (Season 14, Episode 15).

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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the hockey-related episode “Great Expectations” (Season 18, Episode 11) and investigate the case of Thomas Junta murdering another hockey Dad at a children’s pickup game. Plus, they chat with the wonderful Lincoln Melcher.

SOURCES:
The New York Times
CNN
NBC Sports
Telegram & Gazette
CBS News

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Hockey Diversity Alliance

Next week’s episode will be “Father Dearest” (Season 13, Episode 20).

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This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22) and discuss the predatory history of the infamous film director Woody Allen. Plus, they have a wonderful conversation with the magnificent Bradley Whitford.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Woody Allen sexual abuse allegation
Vanity Fair 1
Vanity Fair 2
Vanity Fair 3
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
mosesfarrow.blogspot.com
Vulture
Los Angeles Times
Wikipedia - Roman Polanski

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My Father, Woody Allen, and the Danger of Questions Unasked

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Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12) and the disturbing real-life murder of teenager Kirsten Costas. Plus, they have a lovely chat with the wonderful Aya Cash (The Boys, You're the Worst).

SOURCES:
Los Angeles Times
The New York Times
Time
United Press International

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SAMHSA’s National Helpline

Next week’s episode will be “Reasonable Doubt” (Season 15, Episode 22). 

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This week, Liza and Kara go way back to season one to cover the episode, “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6). They also discuss the date rape case of Katie Koestner and her ongoing legacy. Plus, they interview the talented Lothaire Bluteau.

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - Murder of Jeanne Clery
Wikipedia - Katie Koestner
Time 1
Time 2
katiekoestner.com
The Flat Hat
BBC
The Daily Item

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Take Back the Night

Next week’s episode will be “Hothouse” (Season 10, Episode 12).

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Today, Kara and Liza discuss the episode “Cold” (Season 9, Episode 19) and investigate the case of Gerard Schaefer a.k.a. "The Killer Cop." Plus, they chat with the prolific writer of this very SVU episode, the amazing Judith McCreary.

SOURCES:
ABC 13
The New York Times
Tampa Bay Times
Vidocq Society
Police1
CBS News
MinnPost
KIRO 7
Medium

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Vidocq Society

Next week’s episode will be “Sophomore Jinx” (Season 1, Episode 6).

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In this episode, Liza and Kara recap “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). Plus, they discuss the phenomenon of To Catch a Predator and the prolific serial killer Gary Ridgway a.k.a. "The Green River Killer."

SOURCES:
Wikipedia - To Catch a Predator
Wikipedia - Gary Ridgway
ABC News
The Washington Post
all that’s interesting
The New York Times
People

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Predators (2025)

Next week’s episode will be “Cold" (Season 9, Episode 19). 

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Today, Kara and Liza tackle the episode “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16). Plus, they discuss the disgusting crimes perpetrated by Nathan Sutherland at the Hacienda HealthCare facility.

SOURCES:
Vice
NBC News
ABC World News
The Arizona Republic
The Independent
Slate
Wikipedia - Hacienda HealthCare sexual abuse case

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How Sexual Assault First Aid Revolutionizes Prevention

Next week’s episode will be “Pursuit” (Season 12, Episode 17). 

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This week, Kara and Liza cover the episode,“Responsible” (Season 8, Episode 18), discuss the case of sexual predator and former teacher Debra Lafave, and interview the wonderful Leven Rambin.

SOURCES:
ABC News
CNN
The Guardian
The Today Show
NBC News
Bradenton Herald
People 1
People 2
Tampa Bay Times
WLTX19

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FindTreatment.gov

Next week’s episode will be “Let Me Bring Pardon” (Season 26, Episode 16).

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