The Starting Messy Podcast

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In this episode, Misty cracks open something that took her a year to understand — the work was never about moving through the bad stuff. It was about learning how to feel safe in the good stuff. So many of the stylists she works with think they need fixing. They’re booked out, they’re great at what they do, they’re hitting every success mark society told them to hit. And underneath it? An outside skin. A mask. A real version of themselves that doesn’t feel like enough.

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In this episode, Misty sits down with her friend and returning guest Spencer Stout @spencerlaineartistry— colorist, boundary-setter, and the woman who proves that saying no to the wrong clients is actually a business strategy. But today they're not talking about hair. They're talking about the thing that changed both of their lives: going to a retreat when it scared the hell out of them.

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In this solo episode, Misty gets real about the exhausting cycle that keeps hairstylists and salon owners stuck — chasing the next goal in hopes it delivers the peace they’re craving — and why that strategy keeps backfiring. Then she breaks down the exact practices she uses to give her overworked brain a genuine break — no crystals required.

This one’s for the logistical thinkers, the overachievers, the stylists who are so used to being “on” that the idea of sitting still sounds more stressful than the chaos itself. Misty shares five su...

What happens when two former party girls — both hairstylists, both moms, both done playing small — sit down and get real? You get this episode.

Misty is joined by Kat, known as The Anti-Hairdresser, for one of those conversations that goes absolutely everywhere — and somehow lands exactly where it needs to. Kat is a UK-based color technician, educator, and social media coach for hairdresser moms who have been in the industry for 20+ years. She's also 16 months sober, neurodivergent, and completely done pretending to be anyone other than herself.

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In this episode, Misty sits down with Annie Fisher: salon owner, career stylist, and author of Love Is in the Hair: A Journey of Setbacks, Scissors, and Self-Worth. These two met for the very first time on this podcast, and it felt like two business besties finally finding each other.

Annie opens up about what it actually means to call yourself a career stylist (not "just a stylist"), how she navigated becoming a young mom while building a beauty career, why she opened her first salon in 2013 — and what led her to finally write the book she al...

What happens when a hairstylist gets tired of feeling tied down — and decides to do something about it? Leisha did not just change her schedule. She sold her house, moved into an RV with her husband, two dogs, and a cat, drove to a city where she knew nobody, and started walking into salons with a stack of papers and an idea nobody had ever heard of.

That idea? Traveling Hairstylist — a first-of-its-kind service where stylists can hire a professional to come to their space, care for their clients, and cover 100% of their booth rent while they're on m...

In this episode, I’m the guest on the Out of Step Podcast with my friend and coach Andrew Carruthers , and we go deep on something I know so many of you hairstylists and salon owners feel but rarely talk about: the invisible boxes we build around ourselves, and what it actually costs us to stay inside them.

We talk about what happened in 2020 when everything that I thought made me “Me” was suddenly taken away — and what I found when I finally had to just sit with myself. We talk about the wild shift from being behind t...

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If you've been feeling like you're doing all the right things — taking the courses, going to the shows, following the educators — and still feel like something's missing, this episode is for you.

Misty is talking directly to the stylist or salon owner who has already built something worth loving, but finds themselves buried under everyone else's opinions about how to grow it. The problem isn't that you need more strategy. The problem is you have too many voices in your head and not enough quiet to hear...

If you've been wondering whether your AI use is helping or quietly hurting your business — this episode is the one you didn't know you needed.

Misty sits down with her longtime friend, branding and marketing educator Jodie Brown, for a candid, no-shame conversation about how we're using AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude — and what we might be losing in the process. Jodie is a 15-year hairstylist-turned-online-business-owner who now works with beauty educators and creative entrepreneurs on branding, content strategy, and finding clients without chasing virality. She is a fundamentals girly — and this conversation reflects that.

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In this solo episode, Misty gets honest about the one thing that separates the burnt-out in-demand stylist from the happy, peaceful, in-demand stylist: the inner work that happens before you ever walk through the salon door.

This isn’t about a new booking system or a price increase strategy. This is about YOU. Because the calm atmosphere, the clear communication, the client retention, the boundaries that hold — none of it starts at your station. It starts with who you are outside of it.

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In this raw and honest episode, Misty breaks down the dark side of self-awareness that nobody talks about: how awareness without action stops being a growth tool and starts becoming your identity. If you've ever caught yourself saying "I know I need to raise my prices," "I know I need to set boundaries," "I know I need to look at my numbers" — and then done absolutely nothing about it — this episode is for you.

Misty walks you through the three-step shift from awareness → acceptance → choice, and why skipping the middle s...

Do you ever feel lonely — not the "I'm home alone" kind of loneliness, but the deeper kind? The kind where you're surrounded by people but can't find anyone who gets your ambitions, your struggles, or your desire to grow?

In this episode, Misty Jayne gets real about the funk she found herself in last year — and what she did to pull herself out of it. Whether you're a hairstylist in a suite feeling isolated, a salon owner craving deeper conversations, or a beauty professional who's ready to stop scrolling and start connecting, this episode is for you.

What happens when the business blueprint isn’t enough? In this raw and honest conversation, Misty Jayne sits down with seven-figure entrepreneur, published author, and salon owner Kelly Cahen to talk about the pivot that changes everything — not just in your business, but in how you see yourself.

Kelly built two thriving hair salons and spent years coaching other salon owners on systems, financials, and management. But she kept hitting the same wall: her clients had all the tools and still weren’t moving. Why? Because the real entry point to business success isn’t strategy — it’s self-leade...

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If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who loves personal development, this episode might feel like a little bit of a wake-up call.

In this episode , Misty is sharing the perspective that took her years to understand: personal growth isn’t about controlling everything. It’s about learning how to respond differently when they show up.

In this episode Misty sits down with Chrystal Graves Founder of Liquid AI Salon Assistant (TRY IT HERE FOR FREE & tell it Misty sent you) to talk about decision fatigue in the beauty industry and why mental burnout has less to do with long days… and more to do with constant decision-making.

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If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who wants more time, peace, money, or boundaries… but keeps circling the same decision, this episode is for you.

In this episode, Misty dives into something she’s noticed after six years of coaching hairstylists and creative entrepreneurs:

The difference between wanting change and actually choosing change.

From filling out coaching applications and ghosting…

To saying you’ll raise your prices but never sending the text…

To talking about cutting back your sc...

If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who is fully booked but secretly exhausted… this one is for you.

In this episode, Misty shares the story of one of her first Master Your Mess clients, a successful stylist and salon owner who didn’t need more clients… she needed her life back.

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Have you ever known what you wanted to do… and still asked five people for their opinion before making a decision?

In this episode, Misty dives into one of the most unexpected—but powerful—outcomes she sees in her coaching work with hairstylists and salon owners: self-trust.

What started as just money coaching turned into something much deeper. Again and again, clients reflected back the same thing:

“I learned how to trust myself.”

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What happens when a former undercover police decoy becomes a salon owner, educator, and global business mentor?

In this episode, Misty Jayne sits down with Alison Rodriguez, co-founder of two successful salons and creator of Mastermynd Beauty, to talk about growth, reinvention, and building a sustainable career in the beauty industry.

Alison shares her unconventional journey—from working undercover with law enforcement as a teenager to opening and scaling multiple salons, training over 100 stylists, and eventually stepping into education, events, and global mentorship for salon owners and hairstylists.

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What if the key to better clients, higher retention, and less burnout behind the chair wasn’t more skill… but better alignment?

In this episode, Misty sits down with Kati Whitledge, founder of Maya and Host of Beyond The Technique Podcast, to talk about why who you work with matters just as much as what you do.

This conversation goes beyond marketing and tech. It’s about building a career you don’t want to escape from, attracting clients who respect you, and creating success that actually feels good.

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In this episode of the Starting Messy Podcast, Misty sits down with Aryn Detres, founder of The Left Brain Group, to unpack the overconsumption problem in the hair industry—and why more education isn’t always the answer.

If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who’s taken all the classes, saved all the screenshots, and still feels stuck… this episode is for you.

In this episode, Misty Jayne joins Jodie Brown, the host of the Hairstylist Rising Podcast to break down one of the most misunderstood topics in the beauty industry: the real difference between coaching, mentoring, education, and consulting and why more information isn’t always the answer.

This conversation is for hairstylists and salon owners who feel stuck despite being talented, booked out, and knowledgeable. We talk about why overlearning can become a form of avoidance, how fear and identity play a bigger role than skill gaps, and when it’s time to stop searching for answers and star...

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In this episode, Misty Jayne breaks down why life coaching can be one of the most supportive tools for hairstylists and salon owners—especially those who are booked out, successful on paper, but feeling burned out, overwhelmed, or disconnected behind the scenes.

This isn’t about business strategy, marketing tactics, or raising your prices for the 47th time.

It’s about separating who you are from what you do, regulating your nervous system, setting boundaries without guilt, and understanding why money stress is often about...

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As the year wraps up, Misty gets honest about the work she’s been doing behind the scenes for years—and what she’s finally owning out loud in 2026.

In this episode, Misty shares why so many hairstylists and salon owners think they have a money problem… when in reality, money is often just the symptom. Underneath it?

Self-doubt. Overthinking. Fear of being seen. Fear of choosing the “wrong” path. And the exhaustion that comes from being the strong one everyone relies on.

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Misty breaks down why those negative thoughts feel so real, even when they aren’t, and how your brain is literally wired to cling to familiar stories, not true ones.

This conversation is especially for hairstylists and salon owners who:

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Misty sits down with Carly Zanoni @the.blonde.cronicles, the educator and stylist behind The Blonde Chronicles University, to talk about what hairstylists really want to know: how to start before you're ready, how to grow without losing yourself, and how to build something meaningful even when everything feels messy.

Carly shares how she launched a digital education platform during shutdowns, why “doing it scared” is so important, and how simplifying your color placement (and your self-talk) can change everything behind the chair.

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In this episode, Misty gets vulnerable about what it really looks like to build a career in education and coaching as a hairstylist — beyond what Instagram shows you. She breaks down the messy middle, the insecurities, the backwards steps, and the slow-burn confidence that has shaped her journey over the past six years.

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Hairstylists, salon owners, independent educators, new coaches in the beauty industry, and anyone trying to figure out if they’re “behind” (spoiler: you’re not).

As hairstylists and salon owners, clients trust us with more than their hair — they trust us with their stories, emotions, and vulnerability. But being a true “safe space” doesn’t just happen. It’s a skill. And for many of us? It's a skill we were not taught.

In today’s episode, Misty breaks down four powerful communication shifts that transformed her from a reactive communicator into the grounded, emotionally-intelligent coach and leader she is today. Whether you're navigating heavy conversations with clients, building stronger relationships with your team, or improving communication at home — these skills will change how you...

In this conversation, Misty breaks down what consistency really looks like — not perfection, not hustle, not “do the most every day.” Real, sustainable consistency that builds trust with your clients, your audience, your business, and yourself.

Whether you’re behind the chair, growing your visibility, building a salon team, or trying to stick to your money plan… this episode gives you permission to show up imperfectly — and still create results.

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In this throwback episode Misty chats with Aly Mckinnon, a salon design and organizations coach who helps salon and suite owners nationwide to create the salon space of their dreams. Using aligned design and organizational systems she helps stylists to bring joy and ease into their day in the salon and help to attract their dream clientele.

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In this episode, Misty Jayne sits down with salon business coach Kelly Cahen to unpack the toxic trend of shame-based money coaching — and why guilt and “tough love” won’t fix your financial patterns.

If you’ve ever felt judged for having debt, using credit cards, or not saving “the right way,” this conversation will help you breathe again. Misty and Kelly talk about:

💸 Why traditional money advice often fails hairstylists and salon owners

💬 How shame keeps you stuck in scarcity

🧠 The mindset shifts that actually create financial confidence

💪 How to build a plan that f...

In this throwback episode, Misty sits down with one of her salon clients, Danielle Talley, to discuss what clients really think about price increases!

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This conversation bridges the worlds of yoga, wellness, and hairstyling — showing how confidence, boundaries, and emotional awareness shape success behind th...

In this throwback episode , Misty Jayne dives into a truth every hairstylist and salon owner needs to hear: you can’t be available, affordable, and skillful—you can only be two.

If you’ve ever felt overworked, underpaid, or constantly booked but still broke, this episode will help you figure out which category you fall into—and how to shift into the stylist you actually want to be.

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In this powerful throwback conversation, Misty Jayne sits down with Maddi Cook, the creator of Boss Your Salon, to talk about the real reason stylists struggle with pricing — and spoiler alert — it’s 90% mindset, 10% numbers.

They unpack why “charge your worth” is a misleading phrase, how people-pleasing keeps you undercharging, and why confidence comes after you take the scary step — not before. You’ll also learn:

In this episode, Misty Jayne welcomes Jen Alden, an in-home salon owner and stylist, who shares her transformative journey towards financial awareness and empowerment. Jen discusses her struggles with debt, the importance of open conversations about money, and the pivotal decisions she made in her business.

Are you a hairstylist or salon owner who’s tired of feeling stressed every time you look at your bank account? In this episode, there is a replay of Jodie Brown's: The Hairstylist Rising Podcast, where Misty Jayne shares how beauty professionals can start feeling empowered and confident with money—without the guilt, shame, or outdated budgeting advice.

If you’ve ever thought, “I make good money, but I’m still living paycheck to paycheck,” this conversation is for you.

In this episode, Misty Jayne breaks down the 5 biggest money myths that keep stylists financially stuck—like believing you just need to make more money, that budgeting means restriction, or that it’s “too late” to turn things around.

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Hairstylists and salon owners—does it feel like every time you start a budget, something knocks you off track? From broken tools to last-minute cancellations, it’s easy to believe “it’s always something.”

In this episode, Misty Jayne shares how a $20 parking ticket almost derailed her debt-free journey and the mindset shift that helped her pay off $48K in two years.

Perfect for hairstylists and salon owners ready to stop living paycheck to paycheck and finally create a money plan that works.

In this episode, Misty sits down with Corey Gray of Hairdustry to share his life-changing experience with Hair Aid in Cambodia. Corey opens up about teaching haircutting skills to people living in critical poverty, the power of community support, and how hairstylists can create ripple effects of impact far beyond the salon.

Whether you’re a hairstylist, salon owner, or beauty industry professional, this conversation will inspire you to see how your skills can change lives—not only behind the chair but across the globe.

Hairstylists, are you wasting energy on the wrong things? In this episode, Misty Jayne breaks down three triggers that keep stylists stuck: AI hair pictures, clients complaining about salon prices, and judging how other stylists run their business.