The Investors First Podcast
The award* winning Investors First Podcast is a service of CFA Society Orlando. Subject matter experts from our Society interview Founders, Chief Executive Officer's, Chief Investment Strategists, Fed Presidents and more to discuss timely and relevant topics in finance. Our mission is to educate investors and investment professionals in Florida, the Americas and beyond, with a focus on making you a more informed investor and/or advisor. *The CFA Institute awarded CFA Society Orlando the 2020 Impact and Innovation Award for the Investor's First Podcast. Previous guests include Patrick O'Shaugnessy, Liz Ann Sonders, Barry Ritholtz, Federal Reserve Bank President Raphael Bostic...
Andrew Granato, J.D., Ph.D. & Pranjal Drall – Private Equity, Insurance, and Who Pays When Insurers Fail
Insurance companies sit at an increasingly important intersection of investing, private credit, and financial stability. Andrew Granato and Pranjal Drall have been studying how the growing involvement of private-equity firms in insurance is changing insurer balance sheets and potentially shifting risks among policyholders, other insurers, and taxpayers. Andrew Granato is an Assistant Professor at the University of Texas School of Law and holds a J.D. and Ph.D. in Financial Economics from Yale, previously serving as a Senior Associate Economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, while Pranjal Drall is a J.D.-Ph.D. candidate in...
Roger Bayston, CFA – Tokenization of Traditional Assets
Today's guest on the Investors First Podcast is Roger Bayston, CFA. Roger has been with Franklin Templeton since 1991 and has spent more than three decades in the investment industry. Roger holds an undergraduate degree from University of Virginia, and an MBA from UCLA. He is also a CFA Charterholder. Based in Alamo, California, Roger discusses Franklin Templeton's global operations and the firm's growing digital-asset and blockchain capabilities.
In this episode, we discuss Franklin Templeton's early exploration of blockchain technology and how that work evolved into tokenized money-market funds and a broader digital-asset platform. Roger discusses Bitcoin as...
David Booth, Dimensional Fund Advisors – The Outsider Who Changed Investing
David Booth is one of the most influential figures in modern investing. As the co-founder and Executive Chairman of Dimensional Fund Advisors, he helped bridge the gap between academic finance and real-world portfolio management, transforming decades of research into practical investment solutions for advisors and investors around the world.
In this episode, David joins us as he approaches his 80th birthday, celebrates Dimensional's 45th anniversary and more than $1 trillion in assets under management, and prepares for the release of his new book, Stay Calm. We discuss the origins of evidence-based investing, the development of the CRSP database...
The Physical Economy: Where AI Meets Value Investing
In today's episode, we welcome Don Wordell, CFA, Chief Investment Officer of Ceredex Value Advisors, an institutional asset manager specializing in value-oriented domestic small, mid and large cap equity strategies. Don has been with the firm since 1996, starting with Ceredex's predecessor firm as a research analyst covering value equity strategies. He became portfolio manager of the Mid-Cap Value Equity strategy in 2001 and portfolio manager of the Small Cap Value Equity strategy in 2023. Don earned a B.S. in finance and an M.B.A from the University of Central Florida. He has been a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA®) charterholder s...
Ari Rubin, Flock Homes – Exchange Fund for Residential Rental Properties
In today's episode, we sit down with Ari Rubin, Founder & CEO of Flock Homes, for a deep dive into tax‑efficient exits for residential real estate through 721 exchanges into the Flock Homes fund.
Ari was born in Brooklyn, Harvard undergrad, served in the Israeli military, and attended (then left, like many successful entrepreneurs in the Bay area) Stanford University to build Flock full‑time. Based on his background and our offline conversations, it sounds like he is just getting started with some big ideas.
Today's discussion frames the core problem facing mom‑and‑pop landlords: concentr...
The PE Guy, Unfiltered (Mostly)
In today's episode, we welcome the PE Guy, whose real name is Johnny Hilbrant Partridge. The PE Guy character was started in early 2025 after capitulating from years of ridiculous travel and lifestyle stories from folks in finance, but particularly, private equity. He is certainly making his rounds in the CFA community, and we quickly realized he would be a great guest on our podcast (due to his role in PE, Private Equity, as the PE Guy often says in his skits).
We cover Johnny's start with the Ellen DeGeneres show, then his sudden fame as a Soul...
Mike Pyle, BlackRock – White House to Wall Street, An Allocator's Perspective
In today's episode, we welcome back Mike Pyle of BlackRock. Mike is a senior leader within BlackRock and a key member of the BlackRock Investment Institute (BII), where he helps shape the firm's global macro views and portfolio construction frameworks. Mike has a law degree from Yale and a bachelor's degree from Dartmouth.
Mike brings a unique perspective to markets, having served in the Obama White House before joining BlackRock as their Global Chief Investment Strategist, followed by another stint at the White House with the Biden-Harris Administration and back to BlackRock in 2024. While in government, he...
Danny Jenkins, ThreatLocker – Zero Trust Cybersecurity
In today's episode, we have Danny Jenkins, who is the CEO and Co-Founder of ThreatLocker, a rapidly growing cybersecurity firm focused on Zero Trust endpoint protection. With over 20 years in cybersecurity and a background in ethical hacking, Danny is unique in that he dropped out of school when he was 15 years old and has an unconventional resume. Danny has built multiple security companies and is widely recognized for his hands-on, real-world approach to stopping ransomware and cyber threats before they happen.
After witnessing firsthand how devastating cyberattacks can be, he became a leading advocate for the Zero...
Brent Sullivan, Tax Alpha Insider – Tribology of Tax Alpha
We are excited to welcome a friend of the show, Brent Sullivan of The Tax Alpha Insider. We discuss all things Tax Alpha as the investment puzzle is different when it comes to taxable investors. I have been fortunate to have known Brent since the very beginnings of his Tax Alpha Insider Newsletter, a highly successful, focused publication in the wealth management space. I often say that he could become the Michael Kitces of Tax Alpha. Brent is also behind the first Tax Alpha Conference, Basis Northwest, in Seattle on May 28th and 29th, which I will be attending.<...
Joe Davis, Vanguard – An Economist Crossing the T
We are excited to welcome Joe Davis for this episode, currently Vanguard's Global Chief Economist and Global Head of the Investment Strategy Group. Many of you likely know various iterations of the Vanguard story, but most of the professionals I know do not know how big a research team they have. Joe has a big influence on the company because he is also chairs the firm's Strategic Asset Allocation Committee. Ok, that was exhausting listing all of his titles, he is a busy person. Before that, he was still busy; he earned his M.A. and Ph.D at Du...
Rick Rieder, BlackRock – Rieder, Riting & Rithmetic
To kick off year 7 of the Investors First Podcast, we interviewed Rick Rieder of BlackRock, currently Chief Investment Officer of Global Fixed Income, Head of the Fundamental Fixed Income business, and Head of the Global Allocation Investment Team. After earning a BBA in Finance from Emory University and later an MBA from The Wharton School. He started his career as an Analyst at SunTrust, briefly joining E.F. Hutton's training program, and then spending nearly two decades at Lehman Brothers trading before joining BlackRock.
In this episode, we start where his interest in finance began with analyzing...
Kevin Shea, CFA, BNY Mellon – AI: Investment Implications & Lessons from Late 90's
Kevin Shea is a Director/Senior Equity Strategist at BNY Mellon, where he focuses on individual security analysis, market structure, and emerging technologies—most notably artificial intelligence. Raised in a blue-collar household in Boston, Kevin learned the value of investing early and carried that discipline through Penn State University and into his professional life. He earned the CFA charter while beginning his career at Merrill Lynch Investment Management, eventually joining BNY Mellon's Equity Advisory Group, a team dedicated to helping wealth clients navigate complex equity markets and fast-moving innovation cycles.
In this episode, Kevin joins Steve Curley an...
Perth Tolle, Life & Liberty Indexes: Perth Tolle's EM Freedom Factor
In this episode of the Investors First Podcast, we sit down with Perth Tolle, founder of the Freedom 100 Emerging Markets Index (FRDM), now over $1.6B in assets. We explore her vision for how personal and economic freedom can shape global investment outcomes. Perth shares her journey from growing up in Beijing to moving to the U.S. at age nine, her early career as a Fidelity advisor, and how those experiences ultimately inspired her differentiated approach to emerging-markets investing.
We discuss how she constructs and maintains the FRDM Index, the impact of excluding authoritarian regimes like China...
Marty Bicknell, Mariner – A Private Wealth Shipwright in Kansas
Marty Bicknell is the CEO and founder of Mariner, a nationally recognized wealth advisory firm providing comprehensive financial solutions to individuals, families, and institutions. Under his leadership since founding the firm in 2006, Mariner has grown from a small startup into one of the largest registered investment advisory (RIA) firms in the United States, with over $500 billion in assets under advisement. With a strong emphasis on client-first service, innovation, and culture, Marty has cultivated a business model that prioritizes holistic financial planning, investment management, and long-term relationship-building. Mariner has been ranked as a top 5 RIA by Barron's from 2016-2024. Beyond...
Matt Orosz, Trinity Family Builders – Current State of Housing & Homebuilders
Today's guest is Matt Orosz. Matt Orosz is Co-President of Trinity Family Builders, launched in March 2024 by the Orosz brothers in Central Florida. He oversees marketing, sales, land acquisition & operations. Before starting Trinity Family Builders, he co-founded Royal Oak Homes (2011) and Hanover Family Builders (2017), both high-growth companies that were sold—Royal Oak in 2014 and Hanover in 2022 (to Land & Sea Homes, a publicly traded entity). He holds a bachelor's degree from Villanova and an MBA from Rollins College.
In today's episode, we discussed:
· Matt's curiosity, passion for homebuilding, & background in the industrial side of CRE
Coaching, Creating Your Own Window & Capital Allocation: Chris Hyzy's Playbook
Today's guest is Chris Hyzy. Chris is Managing Director and Chief Investment Officer supporting Bank of America Private Bank and Merrill Lynch (within Bank of America Corporation). He leads investment strategy, asset allocation, equity and fixed income management, due diligence, and wealth planning guidance.
Previously, he was CIO and Chief Investment Strategist for the Private Bank at Bank of America. Before that, he held senior investment roles at Citigroup Private Bank, including CIO for Latin America and chair of the Global Investment Themes Committee. He also led investment strategy teams at Merrill earlier in his car...
Alejandra Grindal, Ned Davis Research – Tariff Lesson with Prof. Grindal
Today's guest is Alejandra Grindal. Alejandra serves as the Chief Economist for Ned Davis Research. Based in Florida and a graduate (undergraduate and Master's) of Florida State University, we were pleased to host a true Floridian for this episode. We recently hosted Alejandra for our Annual Dinner for CFA Society Orlando and did such a great job, we wanted to have her on the podcast. She joined Ned Davis in 2006 and has been quoted in national media, including Barron's, WSJ, CNBC, and TIME, and is a guest on CNBC, and Bloomberg TV. Prior to Ned Davis, she served as...
Mike Thrasher, Modus - Family Office 101
In this episode, the discussion centered around the complexities and dynamics of family offices. Topics covered included the growing number of single-family offices, especially in North America, the typical asset size that justifies establishing a family office, and the transition to multifamily offices to manage costs and expand services. The conversation touched on investment management within family offices, the mystique and challenges of maintaining privacy, and the psychological factors, including family dynamics and governance. We also highlighted trends such as technological advancements, charitable involvement, and interest in unique investments like art and collectibles. Furthermore, the discussion emphasized the importance of journalism...
Herb Greenberg – Red Flags
For our third episode of year six of the podcast, we welcome Herb Greenberg to the Investors First Podcast. Herb's career is incredible, with time as a journalist at major news outlets ranging from the Chicago Tribune and San Francisco Chronicle, to the WSJ, and also time at The Street and CNBC. It should be noted that he was born and raised in Florida and attended the University of Miami. Herb's energy and curiosity are up there with anyone we have interviewed in the history of this podcast.
In today's episode, we cover a wide range of topics, s...
John Bowman, CAIA Association – Alternative Investing in 2035
For our second episode of year six of the podcast, we welcome my friend John Bowman to the podcast. I can't say enough positive things about what John is doing with the CAIA Association (as well as his predecessor Bill Kelly), both of whom put investors first, which is what this podcast is all about. John stepped in as CEO at the beginning of 2025 and we thought it would be great to hear his vision for where alternative investing is headed over the next decade. John is a speaker, writer, commentator and frequently keynoting industry conferences and has been...
Tom Lee, Fundstrat – 2025 Market Outlook
To kick off year six of the Investors First Podcast, today's guest is Tom Lee. Tom is the Managing Partner and Head of Research at Fundstrat Global Advisors, with over 25 years of experience in equity research. Formerly J.P. Morgan's Chief Equity Strategist, he is a top-ranked strategist and you will frequently find him on CNBC. Lee holds a BS in Economics from the Wharton School and is a CFA charter holder.
In this episode, we discuss where the S&P 500 will end up in 2025 and areas of the market Tom likes in 2025. Tom discusses bitcoin...
Rob Arnott, Research Affiliates – Getting Dumped, AI, & Expected Returns
Today's guest is Rob Arnott, Founder and Chairman of Research Affiliates, where he actively contributes to research, portfolio management, product innovation, business strategy, and client relations. He co-manages several funds, including the PIMCO All Asset and RAE™ funds. Throughout his career, Rob has challenged conventional financial wisdom and pioneered strategies such as tactical asset allocation, global tactical asset allocation, tax-advantaged equity management, and the Fundamental Index™ approach. Before founding Research Affiliates in 2002, Rob was chair of First Quadrant, LP, global equity strategist at Salomon Brothers, and CEO of TSA Capital Management. He has published over 150 articles and won numerous awar...
Marlena Lee, PhD – Fama, Factors & Women in Finance
Today's guest is Marlena Lee. Marlena is Dimensional Fund Advisor's (DFA) Global Head of Investment Solutions, leading a team focused on investment thought leadership and client education. She is also a member of DFA's Investment Research Committee. Founded in 1981, DFA is a global asset management firm with ~$800B in assets under management, known for successfully applying academic research to practical investing. Prior to her time at DFA, Marlena served as Co-Head of Research, directing the firm's global research agenda. Marlena was a teaching assistant for Nobel laureate Eugene Fama at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. She holds a PhD an...
Marko Papic – GeoMacro Lens on U.S. Election, China Policy, & Markets
Today's guest is Marko Papic, Marko leads BCA Research's BCA Access and developed GeoMacro Research, the first discretionary macro-geopolitical investment strategy in finance. He connects clients with a broad expert network and custom research, having founded BCA's Geopolitical Strategy service. His book, Geopolitical Alpha, presents a framework for predicting investment outcomes. Previously, Marko was a Partner and Chief Strategist at Clocktower Group, advising institutional investors. His work is included in the CAIA curriculum and The Palgrave Handbook of Contemporary Geopolitics. Starting as a Senior Analyst at Stratfor, he has lectured at Stanford and Georgetown. Marko holds advanced degrees from the Uni...
Jeremy Schwartz, CFA – Currency Hedging, Legacy of Professor Siegel & Innovation in ETF's
Today's guest is Jeremy Schwartz, CFA, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree. Before Jeremy started at WisdomTree in 2005, he was a head research assistant for Professor Jeremy Siegel and became his co-author on the sixth edition of the book Stocks for the Long Run. He received his B.S. in economics from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and hosts the Wharton Business Radio program Behind the Markets on SiriusXM 132. Jeremy is a CFA charter holder and is a member of CFA Society Philadelphia.
In this episode, we start by covering Jeremy's charter holder story...
Michael Mauboussin – Market Concentration, Buybacks & Luck vs. Skill
In this episode, we have the pleasure of hosting Michael Mauboussin, Michael is a highly respected figure in finance, celebrated for his deep insights into decision-making, behavioral economics, and investing. Michael is currently the Head of Consilient Research at Counterpoint Global (part of Morgan Stanley Investment Management). He also serves as an adjunct professor of finance teaching Security Analysis at Columbia Business School (since 1993), teaching essentially the same class that Ben Graham started teaching in 1920. Michael is chairman emeritus of the board of trustees of the Santa Fe Institute, a leading center for multi-disciplinary research in complex systems theory. M...
Ali Hamed – Contrarian Early-Stage Investing
Today we host Ali Hamed, a Co-Founder and Partner at CoVenture and a prominent figure in venture capital and alternative investments. With a background in finance and technology, Ali brings strategic insights to early-stage investing. Hamed's track record of success and commitment to fostering entrepreneurship make him a key player in shaping the startup ecosystem. (concise bio courtesy of ChatGPT).
In today's episode, we start with Ali's origin story, starting with his time as a baseball player and agriculture major at Cornell, and what led to him eventually saying the internet was his major in c...
Dr. Meir Statman – A Diversified Measure of Wealth
Today we host Dr. Meir Statman, somebody who was extremely productive during the pandemic, which included completing his new book A Wealth of Well Being. For those familiar with his behavioral finance research, Meir needs no introduction. For the rest of you listening, Meir has devoted his entire career to behavioral finance and making better investment decisions. We were fortunate to have the opportunity to host Meir for an event before the pandemic, but this is the first time he has been on our podcast.
Meir received his Ph.D. from Columbia University and his B...
Sion Evans, VenCap – Exponential Outliers: The Power Law's Role in VC
Our guest today is Sion Evans, CFA, Senior Investment Manager at VenCap, one of the longest-established investment management and advisory firms active in the VC industry today. They've made over 500 commitments to venture capital funds in the US, Europe, China and India.
In today's episode, Sion gives a masterclass on what the data says about venture capital. We spend a lot of time on the importance of capturing the fund returners, why power laws drive venture returns, and what the global VC & startup landscape looks like today.
Our co-hosts today are Fran...
Vikram Mansharamani on Developments to Watch Over the Next Five Years
Our returning guest today is Vikram Mansharamani, a global trend-watcher who shows people how to anticipate the future, manage risk and spot opportunities.
In today's episode, Vikram updates us on what's been a busy three years since he first came on the podcast. We discuss his senatorial campaign in New Hampshire, his unfortunate split at Harvard, and then get into his new book, The Making of a Generalist. He gives a brief overview of the book and then apply his generalist lens to talk about his annual blog post that shares global developments he's keeping a...
Howard Marks - Investing During a Regime Change from CFA Charter #3,700
Today we host Howard Marks of Oaktree Capital Management. For most of us in the investment community, Howard needs no introduction. He is somebody we have looked forward to hosting for quite some time and I couldn't think of anybody better to kick off year five of the Investors First Podcast. We could go on and on about his track record, whether it be his time at the University of Pennsylvania or the University of Chicago, his firm's investment performance, or his various professional achievements, but we must note that Howard is a fellow CFA charter holder (circa 1975).
Daffy's Adam Nash on Disrupting DAF's (Donor Advised Funds)
Our guest today is Adam Nash, the co-founder & CEO of Daffy.org, a modern platform and community for charitable giving that allows you to sign up for your donor-advised fund. Adam has served as an executive, angel investor, and advisor to some of the most successful technology companies to come out of Silicon Valley, including Dropbox, LinkedIn, eBay, and Apple. Adam also served as President & CEO of Wealthfront.
In today's episode, Adam explains why his time at Wealthfront gave him the idea to launch Daffy (which stands for donor-advised fund for you). We walk through th...
Aswath Damodaran: Unmasking ESG
Today we host Professor Aswath Damodaran, where we speak about how Aswath gained his love for teaching and how it led to him becoming an expert in valuation. The episode quickly veered into a sharp critique of the shortcomings of ESG investing. We also discuss market efficiency as it relates to active vs. passive investing, his story approach to individual companies, the future of education, career advice for finance professionals and more.
Our hosts today are Steve Curley, CFA & guest host Chris Cannon, CFA (Chief Investment Officer, FirsTrust).
Please enjoy the epi...
Phil Hayes, Berman Hopkins: Everything Everywhere All At Once w/ The ESOP Guy
Today we host Phil Hayes, The ESOP Guy, where we speak about how Phil went from banker to Managing Partner of a large regional accounting firm (as a non-CPA) to now becoming an expert in ESOP's.
In today's episode, we speak about exit strategies in general, where ESOP's fit, the mechanics of ESOP transactions and the tax advantages of this structure. We then bounce around and discuss everything all at once ranging from 1042 exchanges with qualified replacement property, to whether this is a good deal for BOTH the owners and the employees and much more.
...Peter Atwater – Diversifying by Sentiment
Our guest today is Peter Atwater, President of Financial Insyghts and an adjunct professor at William & Mary and the University of Delaware. He studies the impact of changing confidence on consumer decision-making, using his research to advise investors, business leaders, and policymakers. In 2023, he released the book, The Confidence Map: Charting a Path from Chaos to Clarity.
In today's episode, Peter walks through some of the key topics in the world today, including the dominance of U.S. stocks, the rise of grifters in the past few years, why he coined the term K-Shape Recovery in...
KC Joyner - Fantasy Football Draft Prep Using Peter Zeihan's Geopolitical Framework
Our guest today is Orlando's own fantasy football expert, KC Joyner. KC used to work for ESPN and now runs his own website called The Football Scientist. We've had lots of amazing podcast guests since we started in March 2020, but since last year's episode with KC was the second most downloaded episode of any episode we've had, we had to invite him back on.
In today's episode, KC explains how another past podcast guest Peter Zeihan's geopolitical framework applies to fantasy football. We cover a range of topics to get you prepped for your draft, an...
NewEdge Wealth's Cameron Dawson on the State of the Markets
Our guest today is Cameron Dawson, Chief Investment Officer of NewEdge Wealth. Cameron is a Florida native, Rollins college graduate and former board member of the CFA Society of Orlando.
In today's episode, Cameron talks about her overall view of the markets. She touches on value, emerging markets, alternatives, and why she's keeping a close eye on the Bank of Japan going forward.
Our co-hosts today are Chris Cannon, CFA, and myself, Colby Donovan, CFA. Please enjoy the episode.
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David Lau, DPL & Dr. Wade Pfau, RISA: Insurance, Annuities & The Outsourced Chief Insurance Officer
Our guests today are David Lau and Wade Pfau. These two individuals have been collaborating for quite some time to solve retirement income puzzles for investors. David has been doing it with DPL, bridging the gap between low cost insurance and Fee Only wealth management firms. On the other hand, Wade has been approaching retirement solutions from the academic lens with rigorous research.
In today's episode, we discuss the potential blind spot in Fee-Only wealth management firms as it relates to insurance and annuities, whether insurance and investments should be comingled and the concept of th...
Wes Gray, Alpha Architect: Build Your Own ETF, Advanced Tax Strategies & a New T-Bill Alternative
In today's episode, we host Wes Gray, CEO of Alpha Architect. Founded in 2010, Alpha Architect is a research focused quant firm that put themselves on the map offering value and momentum factor exposures, but it doesn't stop there. Wes and his group have evolved to offer advanced tax strategies in the form of ETF's, separately managed accounts (SMA's), and ETF white-labeled services. Wes has an incredible bio that starts with humble beginnings growing up on a ranch. He later becomes a Captain in the US Marine Corps followed by earning his MBA & PhD studying under Nobel Prize Winner Eugene...
Jan van Eck, VanEck: Back to School, A Lesson in Financial History
Today we host Jan van Eck for the second time on the Investors First Podcast. Jan is the CEO of VanEck, a global asset manager with over $57 billion in assets under management, including ETF's, mutual funds, SMA's, UCITS and more. Since our first recording with Jan in April 2020, Jan took the initiative to create a financial history course at VanEck during the pandemic. Jan is a brilliant investment professional with a passion for financial history. Beyond VanEck's work as a pioneer in the asset management business, we wanted to highlight the great work he is doing (beyond managing money...