The Harden Up Podcast

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By: Matt Harden

"The Harden Up Podcast" brings you into the world of high-performance training and adventure through the expert lens of Matt Harden—a former USMC Infantry Squad Leader, veteran SWAT Team Leader, and founder of OpTempo Training Group. Each episode delivers compelling conversations with leading specialists across tactical operations, athletic development, overlanding expeditions, and extreme sports.Matt's military and law enforcement background provides the perfect foundation for extracting practical wisdom from his guests, offering listeners actionable strategies they can implement immediately. Whether you're a tactical professional, outdoor enthusiast, or simply someone looking to elevate your performance and push beyond comfort zones, th...

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Ep 68: Jeff Lehman of San Bernadino County S.A.R.
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Into the Unknown: Search & Rescue, Risk, and Decision-Making          Under Pressure with Jeff Lehman


When someone is lost, injured, or trapped in unforgiving terrain, who comes to the rescue? And what does it take to operate when the environment itself is working against you?

In this episode of the Harden Up Podcast, Matt sits down with Jeff Lehman, a 30-year veteran of the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Cave and Technical Rescue Team and California Region Chair of the Mountain Rescue Association.

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Ep 67: Josh Saunders- BJJ Champion & Coach
09/11/2026

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In this episode, I sit down with Josh Saunders, one of Australia's premier Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competitors and a two-time ADCC Asia & Oceania Trials Champion. What's remarkable about Josh's story isn't just where he is today—it's how quickly he got there. After spending nearly two decades playing rugby league, Josh didn't begin training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu until the age of 23. Less than four years later, he earned his black belt, becoming the fastest person in Australian history to achieve that milestone.

We discuss the mindset behind accelerated learning, the sacrifices re...


Ep 66: Mark Aguilar- LAPD S.I.S. Veteran
06/30/2026

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Life After the Badge: Mark Aguilar on Retirement, Leadership & the Future of Policing

Mark Aguilar returns to the podcast following his retirement after an exceptional 31-year career with the Los Angeles Police Department, culminating in an assignment to the department's elite Special Investigations Unit.

In this follow-up conversation, we move beyond the tactical stories and dive into the realities of life after law enforcement. Mark shares what retirement has been like, the challenge of finding purpose after decades in a high-tempo profession, and the importance of building...


Ep 65: JD Tremblay of Hungry Warrior Academy
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05/29/2026

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In this episode of The Harden Up Podcast, Matt sits down with JD Tremblay — Director of High Performance & Mental Resilience Advisor at Hungry Warrior Academy.

JD’s background spans military service, elite ultra-endurance competition, and high-performance coaching focused on helping people operate under pressure while building real mental resilience. This conversation goes beyond surface-level “mindset” talk and dives into the realities of stress, suffering, burnout, identity, and what actually creates durable discipline.

Matt and JD discuss:

Why pressure exposure mattersThe connection between endurance athletes and tactical operatorsMen’s mental hea...


Ep 64: Training Expectations & Low-Light Work
04/30/2026

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Episode Summary

Training isn’t a checkbox—it’s your foundation.

In this episode, we break down why tactical training is critical not just for performance in the field, but for legal accountability after the fact. Using key case law, including Graham v. Connor, City of Canton v. Harris, Popow v. City of Margate, and Zuchel v. City and County of Denver, we highlight how training—or the lack of it—has directly impacted outcomes for officers and agencies.

We also take a hard look at the environmen...


Ep 63: Florian Oberst- German Army Officer & Lowa Global Product Manager
03/25/2026

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Episode 63: From Alpine Warfare to Elite Footwear: Florian Oberst on Performance in the Mountains.

In this episode, I sit down with Florian Oberst—a German Army Reserve Captain, former mountain infantry soldier, and Global Product Manager at LOWA. Florian’s background is rooted in high mountain military operations, where he trained and operated in extreme alpine environments, building a deep understanding of what true performance demands in the field.

After his military service, Florian studied sports and medical technology with a focus on biomechanics and equi...


Ep 62: Lucas Bode- Professional Hunting Guide
02/28/2026

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Episode 62: Elk, Elevation & Ethics: Inside the World of a Backcountry Hunting Guide with Lucas Bode

In this episode, I sit down with Lucas Bode, a professional hunting guide with nearly 20 years of backcountry experience. Lucas started as a self-taught, DIY mountain hunter and built his career the old-fashioned way — through in-the-field experience and hard-earned lessons in unforgiving terrain.

Now guiding for Montana Trophy Outfitters in southwest Montana, Lucas specializes in elk hunting — both archery and rifle — while also leading hunts for antelope, bear, mule deer, and wh...


Ep 61: James Fairfield of Point Blank Enterprises
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01/30/2026

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In this episode, I’m joined by James Fairfield, a retired police lieutenant with over 30 years in law enforcement and a deep operational background in SWAT, use-of-force instruction, and tactical leadership. James now serves as the Director of Training for the world’s largest body armor manufacturer, where he brings real-world experience to the development and delivery of protective solutions for those on the front lines.

We dive into the realities behind soft and hard armor—from design and testing to field application—and explore what mos...


Ep 60: Jason- Police Instructor & Plain Clothes Officer
11/07/2025

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In this episode, I’m joined by Jason, a 13-year law enforcement veteran serving in the greater Atlanta area. With years of experience on one of Georgia’s busiest full-time SWAT teams, Jason has worked as both an assaulter and a sniper—taking part in high-risk search warrants, barricaded subjects, and hostage rescue operations.

We dive into the mindset and tactics behind precision urban sniper work, plainclothes interdictions, and the realities of undercover support missions involving narcotics, human trafficking, and ICAC. Now serving as a department instructor, Jason shares how he...


Ep 59: Paul Holle- of Idaho Rescue Training
09/30/2025

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In this episode, I’m joined by Paul Holle—a wilderness medicine instructor, mountain athlete, and the founder of Idaho Rescue Training. Paul’s work and passion have taken him to 18 countries, climbing some of the world’s most iconic peaks and leading wilderness medicine courses in remote, high-stakes environments.

We dive into his journey from the Colorado Rockies to the mountains of Nepal, how he built a wilderness training company from the ground up, and what it takes to teach life-saving skills in some of the most unf...


Ep 58: Chad Bianco- Riverside Co. Sheriff, Governor Candidate
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08/28/2025

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In this episode, Matt sits down with Sheriff Chad Bianco, a 30-year law enforcement veteran and the current Sheriff of Riverside County—one of the largest sheriff’s departments in the nation. They explore his personal journey through the ranks, from patrol deputy to leading a department with over 3,600 personnel and a billion-dollar budget.

Sheriff Bianco shares his unfiltered perspective on how policing in California has changed over the last two decades, the impact of state legislation on frontline officers, and what he sees as the root causes of risi...


Ep 57: Matt Harden- Guest appearance on the Like a Man podcast
07/31/2025

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In this episode of Like a Man, I had the opportunity to sit down and talk about a journey that’s shaped who I am today—starting with my time in the U.S. Marine Corps, through college, and into a career in law enforcement and SWAT operations.

We covered a lot of ground, including:

My path through military service and into police workWhat SWAT selection and training really looks likeLessons from leading in high-stakes tactical environmentsTools, mindset shifts, and habits that help you perform under pressureThe power of discipline, team...


Ep 56: Ryan- Success Strategies for the Academy and FTO
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07/01/2025

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Success Strategies for the Academy and Beyond with Ryan Marion

In this episode of the Harden Up Podcast, Matt sits down with longtime friend and former colleague Ryan Marion — a law enforcement veteran with over 17 years of experience. From patrol and school resource officer to SWAT team leader, FTO, and academy recruit training officer, Ryan has worn many hats in the profession.

Together, they break down what it really takes to succeed in the police academy and sustain a high-performing career on the job. Whether you're preparing to...


Ep 55: Jennifer Vollbrecht- USMC Crew Chief and Entrepreneur
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05/28/2025

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In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Jennifer Vollbrecht, a former U.S. Marine Corps helicopter crew chief and door gunner who has transformed her experience in the military into a thriving career in project leadership and consulting. As the President and CEO of J. Vollbrecht Consulting, she leads teams delivering high-impact projects for the Department of Defense and Department of Energy, with a strong presence at national laboratory facilities.

Jennifer shares insights from her 15+ years managing complex capital asset projects, her approach to leadership, and how her...


Ep 54: Cory Nykoluk of 5.11 and First Tactical
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04/30/2025

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In this episode, we sit down with industrial design expert Cory Nykoluk, the innovative force behind some of the tactical gear industry's most revolutionary products. Cory shares his journey from being the first employee at First Tactical to his influential tenure as Design Director at 5.11 Tactical, where he created the iconic Rush 24 backpack that redefined tactical gear standards.

The conversation explores Cory's design philosophy of "Neat Clean Professional" and how it shaped entire product lines and brand identities. Listeners will gain insights into the creative process behind tactical equipment development, from...


Ep 53: Wells Jones: Navy Veteran and World Adventurer
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03/31/2025

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In this episode, we sit down with Wells Jones—a Navy veteran, former Antarctic pararescueman, actor, author, and world traveler. Wells shares his incredible journey from military service in some of the harshest environments on Earth to his time in front of the camera and an unforgettable expedition through the Middle East that became the foundation for his latest book.

We talk about:

His path to becoming a Navy pararescuemanWhat it's like operating in the extreme conditions of AntarcticaThe transition from military life to acting and storytellingLessons learned fr...


Ep 52: Maj Jason Attinger: USAF PJ & A-10 Pilot
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02/28/2025

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My guest today is a U.S. Air Force Major, whose remarkable career spans both special operations and combat aviation. He spent over a decade as a Pararescue specialist (PJ), leading high-profile rescue missions in Iraq and Afghanistan before becoming the Director of Training for the PJ program. Driven by his passion for flight, he transitioned to the cockpit of the A-10, logging over 760 hours of combat operations. Now an instructor pilot and Wings Plans Officer for the 124th Fighter Wing, my guest brings a wealth of experience and insight. Please enjoy this...


Ep 33: Mark Aguilar-Police Detective Veteran
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02/28/2025

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In this episode Matt talks with Mark Aguilar, a current Police detective working in a an elite tactical surveillance unit. Listen in as Mark recounts his 28-year law enforcement journey and the lessons learned along the way. From patrol in south central L.A. to celebrity personal security details and to the pinnacle of the tactical surveillance game, this episode runs the gamut. Enjoy!

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Ep 51: Matt Klein- NYPD Detective (Ret) and Battle Tribe Founder
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01/31/2025

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In this episode I welcome Army combat veteran Matt Klein to the show! Matt is a retired NYPD Forensic sketch artist who used his artistic gifts and abilities to help solve multiple high-profile homicide and assault investigations. After his time in the military and law enforcement, Matt founded his creative project Battle Tribe! His engaging artwork blends elements of military, L.E. and pop culture in multiple media styles. Please enjoy the show!

Matt Klein on Instagram: @mattrendar

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Ep 50: Rex Ingram- Police Chief
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12/30/2024

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In this episode I welcome our first Police Chief to the show, Chief Rex R. Ingram from the Caldwell Idaho police department. He has an extensive background from his 17 years at LAPD, where he worked on gang enforcement teams, a human trafficking task force, plainclothes operations, and patrol watch commander in some of LA’s toughest areas. He spoke candidly with me about leadership in policing, elevating LE performance and how administrators can support their officers. Please enjoy this conversation with Chief Rex R. Ingram!

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Ep 49: Mark Lang of Brinc Drones
10/31/2024

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In this episode Matt talks with a law enforcement SWAT veteran, Mark Lang. He served for 23 years on a full-time SWAT team, specializing in the sniper billet. Mark is the director of sniper training for Tac Flow Academy and teaches for TTPOA and NTOA. Mark now works for BRINC drones and advocates for the use of drones in SWAT and patrol operations. Listen in as Mark talks about SWAT culture, the use of technology in L.E. and the future integration of DFR. Please enjoy the show!

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Ep 48: CDR Bill Burwell- USCG Rescue Pilot
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09/09/2024

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In this episode Matt talks with an active duty United States Coast Guard search and rescue pilot, Commander Bill Burwell. He has served over 18 years with assignments as duty pilot, instructor pilot and chief of aviation operations. Listen in as Bill dives into the challenges of rotary-wing flying, hair-raising rescue missions, and extreme duty stations Please enjoy the show!

Video of perilous rescue recounted by Bill in the episode:
https://www.dvidshub.net/video/640450/coast-guard-rescues-4-fishermen-60-miles-off-maine-coast

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EP 47: Standing Offhand on Police Snipers
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07/31/2024

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In this episode Matt talks with two guests, Jeff Chang - a police sniper/instructor and also a former Marine Corps sniper. Tyler Ellsworth is also a police sniper/instructor and owner/operator of Standing Offhand with co-owner Jeff. In this episode we discuss the Trump shooting incident, the police sniper mission, and selecting good candidates. Please enjoy the show!

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Social: @standing_offhand

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Ep 46: Mike Kelly- USCG Rescue Swimmer Instructor
05/31/2024

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In this episode Matt talks with an active duty United States Coast Guard rescue swimmer instructor.  Mike served as a rescue swimmer for ten years prior to being selected as an instructor at the aviation survival technician (AST) school- one of the most stressful environments in military training. Listen in as Mike breaks down the selection process, testing and ultimate success criteria to join the elite USCG AST ranks! Please enjoy the show!

Rescue swimmer career overview:
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Ep 45: Jason Clark of BeaverFit USA
04/26/2024

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In this episode Matt has an in-depth conversation with the Beaverfit USA director of training and education, Jason Clark. Jason is a combat Marine Corps veteran and former drill instructor. He later went on to work in the fitness industry and then as a strength and conditioning director for the Marie Corps HITT program. He also served on the advisory board for human performance at HQ Marine Corps. Please enjoy the show!

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IG: @beaverfitusa
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Ep 44: Dennis Medina of Armored Breach
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04/01/2024

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In this episode Matt speaks with the inventor and founder of the guardian breaching shield, Dennis Medina. The company Armored Breach was formed as Dennis worked as a full-time SWAT Officer and mechanical breaching expert. Listen in as Matt and Dennis discuss SWAT training, trends, and the value of ballistic shields in operations. Please enjoy the show!

Armored Breach and Dennis Medina:
IG: @armoredbreach
https://www.armoredbreach.com/

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Ep 43: Law Enforcement Counter Terrorism at DARC
02/29/2024

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In this episode Matt reviews his recent visit to the direct action resource center for the level two law enforcement counter terrorism course. Hear about his experience at the course, gear selection, and tips for your training visit. Please enjoy the show!

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Ep 42: Zack Sowers- USCG Rescue Swimmer
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12/29/2023

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In this episode Matt talks with an active duty United States Coast Guard rescue swimmer and learns more about their training and operations. AST Zack Sowers shares his insight into the difficult training pipeline to become an aviation survival technician (AST) and the moments of his first open ocean rescue, and his most recent save of six survivors. Please enjoy the show!

Recent ocean save link: https://themaritimepost.com/2023/12/carnival-vista-rescue-at-sea/
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Ep 41: Mike O'Neil of San Jose PD MERGE
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12/04/2023

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In this episode Matt talks with the team commander of San Jose Police Department's full-time SWAT team , MERGE. Listen in to Mike's story covering his extensive law enforcement career in a multitude of assignments. Mike now commands MERGE and discusses team dynamics, selection and training, and the challenges of leading a team. Please enjoy the show!


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Ep 40: Dave Weidner- Veteran Law Enforcement Firearms Trainer
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10/18/2023

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In this episode Matt has an in-depth conversation with Dave Weidner, a veteran Police Officer and trainer. Dave has a progressive ideology when it comes to firearms training and brings some of the nation's best trainers to his facility, where he supervises his agency firearms program. Dave is dedicated to providing cutting-edge training to his staff and deputies. Please enjoy the show!



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Ep 39: Yousef Sansour of Esoteric LLC- Part 2
09/07/2023

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Yousef Sansour, a law enforcement veteran, counter-terrorism expert, and USPSA grand master, returns to the show. In this episode Yousef and Matt discuss trainging ideologies, SWAT team operations and the hostage rescue course Yousef presents. Enjoy the show!

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Instagram: @esoteric_llc
https://esotericllc.com/


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EP 38: Pete Koch- Actor and Former NFL Defensive End
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07/31/2023

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In this episode Matt talks with former NFL defensive end Pete Koch about his athletic journey from high school, college, and the NFL. Pete dives deep into the mindset and attributes of the key coaches that fueled his success. Pete also shares his memorable experience filming the movie "Heartbreak Ridge" with Clint Eastwood and other active duty Recon Marines. Pete is now a successful personal fitness trainer that helps hundreds of everyday folks attain their fitness goals. Enjoy!

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http://petekoch.com/
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EP 37: Kenny Stone of Soldiers on Singletrack
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05/31/2023

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In this episode Matt talks with Kenny Stone, an Army combat veteran and founder of the non-profit Soldiers on Singletrack (SOS). After multiple combat tours, Kenny returned home to civilian life and the associated loss of purpose and camaraderie. in search of therapy, Kenny dusted off his mountain bike and began seeing drastic mental and physical benefits from riding. He then founded SOS and created a community of fellow riders in search of healing and camaraderie. 

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Ep 36: Travis Gribble- SWAT Veteran and advocate
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04/28/2023

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In this episode Matt has an in-depth conversation with Travis Gribble, a fellow SWAT Officer, about LE life, training, and the personal toll of the job. The conversation dives deep into the psychological and emotional challenges of working the streets day in and day out. Travis also details his personal account of an incident that shocked the conscience of all on scene and took years to overcome. Travis now shares his story nationally to inspire other Officers to talk about and deal with their own struggles without fear of alienation. 

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Ep 35: Brad Frederick of Kinetic Concepts Group
03/30/2023

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In this episode Matt talks with Brad, a Marine Corps veteran, Police Officer and CEO of Kinetic Concepts Group. Brad has worked multiple assignments to include parol, SWAT, and plainclothes street teams. During his time on the job, Brad has identified multiple tactical problems Officers face and has found methods to address them. Listen to Matt and Brad as they dive deep into LE training trends and how quality instructors are making a difference.

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Ep 34: Mike Ott- Ballistic Shield Innovator
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02/09/2023

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In this episode Matt talks with Mike Ott, a Police veteran with years 18 years of experience. Mike held multiple assignments to include SWAT, firearms instructor and K9 handler. During this time Mike gained valuable knowledge and insight to the construction and use of ballistic shields. After his law enforcement career, Mike moved on to working directly with armor manufacturers such as First Choice and Point Blank Enterprise. Mike's experience enabled him to design and test multiple shield sizes and shapes to greatly enhance operator use.  Mike currently is the vice president of sales a...


Ep 32: Heather Brent- Blackhawk Crew Chief
12/12/2022

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In this episode Matt talks with Heather Brent, a former television new journalist and now Army Blackhawk helicopter crew chief. Listen in as they discuss the struggles of being a young, single mom, professional who later decides to switch careers. Hear Heather's story as she recounts the change from journalism to working with various non-profits and ultimately joining the Army reserve aviation program. Enjoy the show!

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Ep 31: Sal Hernandez- SWAT Cop and Tactical Games athlete
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10/20/2022

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In this episode Matt talks with Sal Hernandez, a law enforcement SWAT Officer and Tactical Games athlete. Listen in as they discuss the journey of becoming a SWAT Officer and the continual training that keeps teams sharp. Sal also recounts his deployment down to Uvalde as a supporting SWAT team. Sal is also an accomplished Tactical Games athlete, with more than 10 podium finishes in the elite men's division.  Enjoy the show!

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Instagram: @sh_mander
https://www.thetacticalgames.com/
https://www.floridaswat.org/swat-round-up



Ep 30: Yousef Sansour of Esoteric LLC
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09/23/2022

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In this episode Matt talks with Yousef Sansour, a law enforcement veteran, counter-terrorism expert, and USPSA grand master.  He spent years working with multiple government agencies on counter-terrorism missions after 9-11 while serving as a SWAT Officer. Over the 28+ years of his career he gained a vast amount of knowledge that he now passes on to current law enforcement professionals. Yousef now owns and operates the training organization Esoteric LLC. Enjoy the show!

Yousef Sansour
Instagram: @esoteric_llc
https://esotericllc.com/


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Ep 29: Chris on Active Shooter Response
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08/04/2022

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In this episode Matt talks with one of the OpTempo instructors about active shooter events. Listen in as Chris, a law enforcement active shooter subject matter expert, discusses the history of active shooter incidents, the evolution of the law enforcement response, and what you can do to be better prepared for the unthinkable.

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