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The +972 podcast is your direct line to the journalists, thinkers, and activists struggling for justice in Israel-Palestine.+972 Magazine is the only English-language media outlet run by Palestinian and Israeli journalists, delivering fifteen years of fearless reporting and analysis between the river and the sea.

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What's at stake for Palestinian citizens in Israel's election?
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Palestinian voters could decide Israel’s election, yet their representatives remain excluded from political power. Historian Leena Dallasheh joins The +972 Podcast to explore the limits of Palestinian citizenship, the roots of today’s political divisions, and why the struggle to remain on one’s land has often demanded difficult compromises.

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‘We threw ourselves out of Gaza, but never really left’
10/07/2026

For the first six months of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, Palestinian journalist Mohammed Mhawish reported from the ground for +972 Magazine and other outlets. In April 2024, he and his family fled Gaza, but he continued documenting what was happening to his home from afar.  

In this episode of The +972 podcast, exactly three years after the Hamas-led Oct 7 attack on southern Israel and the beginning of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, Mhawhish reflects on survival and exile, the burden carried by Palestinian journalists, and what it means to remember Gaza as a place of culture beyond the war and d...


The making of Israel's Palestinian mafias
09/24/2026

An epidemic of criminal violence is devastating Palestinian communities inside Israel, with this year’s death toll reaching 168 at the time of recording. But the numbers tell only part of the story: Mafia networks have penetrated almost every aspect of life — from local governance to education, welfare, banking, and waste collection. 

On this episode of The +972 Podcast, anthropologist Eilat Maoz examines how this epidemic of organized crime became so deeply entrenched in Palestinian society amid economic liberalization, social fragmentation, and state repression at the turn of the century. Drawing on examples of Palestinian cities in Is...


How Israel wields international law as a license to kill
09/10/2026

In the wake of Israel’s obliteration of Gaza, it is easy to conclude that international law has failed. But Israeli scholar Neve Gordon argues that the problem runs deeper: states can wield the language and principles of international law not only to evade accountability, but to justify mass violence itself. On this episode of The +972 Podcast, Gordon traces how Israel has used legal concepts to construct a rationale for its assault on Gaza, how human rights advocacy has shifted from political struggle toward an increasingly professionalized field of lawyers and experts, and how the language of human ri...


What happens to Palestinians in Israeli prisons?
08/28/2026

Israel’s abuse of Palestinian prisoners and detainees has reached new heights since October 7, particularly for those arrested in Gaza. But what does this incarceration regime actually look like? Human rights lawyer Sahar Francis knows it better than most. She has spent decades advocating for Palestinian prisoners, and she tells +972 that the past three years are the worst she’s ever seen — even though conditions before the war had long been characterized by arbitrary cruelty. She describes how Israel has weaponized the legal system to hold detainees in inhumane conditions without charge or trial, and calls for international pressu...


Israel’s genocidal government is dissolving. Its legacy is here to stay
08/17/2026

As Israel prepares for elections on Oct. 27, the past four years demand a reckoning: what has prolonged far-right rule changed in law, policy, and political culture? And what does it reveal about the ability of Israeli institutions and civil society to protect rights during a time of acute crisis? Noa Sattath, Executive Director of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) — one of the country's oldest and most prominent civil and human rights organizations — offers a behind the scenes look at what it means to fight for rights through institutions that have been complicit in horrific state viol...


Inside Meta’s war on Palestinian content
07/30/2026

In 2011, social media helped topple dictators. Today, platforms deprioritize political content across the board. But for Palestinians, the problem goes deeper than algorithms — it's systematic. A new report from 7amleh, the Arab Center for Social Media Advancement, documents more than 3,000 cases of Meta restricting Palestinian content over five years. 7amleh's executive director Nadim Nashif joins us to break down the mechanisms behind this digital erasure — and why Meta is just the clearest example of a digital ecosystem stacked against Palestinians.

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Israel stole Rashid Khalidi’s land. The U.S. is building an embassy on it
07/16/2026

On July 1, Israel and the United States signed an agreement to build a permanent U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem on confiscated Palestinian property. Among the descendants of the Palestinian families who own the site is historian Rashid Khalidi. He details his family’s nearly 30 year legal battle against the planned embassy — and reflects on whether the hundred-year war on Palestine may finally be entering a new chapter, given historic shifts in global public opinion. 


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Why ‘ungrounding’ is the defining feature of Israel’s genocide
06/25/2026

Since October 2023, much of Gaza has been reduced to rubble. But architect and Forensic Architecture founder Eyal Weizman argues that destruction alone does not capture what is taking place. Drawing on his new book, “Ungrounding: The Architecture of Genocide,” he describes a process that goes beyond erasure: the “rubbing out of any trace of existence” aimed at expelling the Palestinian population and permanently preventing their return.

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The cost of a failed Palestinian leadership
06/11/2026

The global movement for Palestinian justice has achieved real gains — in international courts, in diplomatic shifts, in a transformation of public opinion. Yet the official Palestinian leadership remains deeply fractured, ill-equipped to meet the moment. Omar Rahman, fellow at the Middle East Council on Global Affairs, makes the case that the Palestinian leadership crisis is a national emergency: those in power prioritize their own survival over any coherent response to Israel’s genocide, leaving Palestinians without a national vision and strategy at the moment they need it most.


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How Israeli classrooms indoctrinate Jewish supremacy
05/28/2026

For generations, Jewish-Israeli children have been brought up in an education system where Palestinians rarely appear as Palestinians. Instead, they are "Arabs," “enemies,” and a "demographic threat" — or, in the words of scholar Nurit Peled-Elhanan, "a problem to be solved." A professor of language and education at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Peled-Elhanan has spent years documenting how Israeli textbooks erase Palestinian life, mobilize Holocaust memory to produce existential fear, and present occupation and ethnic hierarchy as natural facts of life. As Israel's genocide in Gaza lays bare the consequences of decades of dehumanization, she reflects on what this s...


Remembering the Nakba of urban Palestine
05/14/2026

Jaffa was once a cosmopolitan port city deeply connected to the Arab world. Then, within a few years after 1948, it was transformed: most of its Palestinian population was expelled, its institutions seized and repurposed, and the few residents who remained were confined to a ghetto, often in houses that were not their own, under laws designed to make that dispossession permanent. Abed Abou Shhadeh, a community organizer and researcher, comes from one of the few families that never left. Today, he is raising his children in the city his great-grandfather refused to flee. Abou Shhadeh traces how the...


The disappeared of Gaza
04/16/2026

In April 2024, a sixteen-year-old boy named Hassan Al-Qatta rode his bicycle out of his neighborhood in Gaza and never came back. He is not confirmed dead. He is not confirmed alive. He has simply disappeared. Hassan is one of an estimated 9,000 to 15,000 people missing in Gaza. Journalist Mahmoud Mushtaha spent eight months reporting on what that number actually means.

This investigation was produced by the Palestine Reporting Lab, a project of Just Vision. The investigation was published last month in partnership with WIRED and published in Arabic on Raseef22.


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How Israel sells militarism at home and abroad
03/27/2026

How has Israeli society become so deeply militarized, and what does that mean for how “security” is defined? Sahar Vardi, a veteran anti-militarist activist and researcher, traces how militarization shapes everyday life, drives policy, and exports arms and doctrines of control far beyond Israel's borders — and asks who profits, who pays, and why we accept this as inevitable.


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Israel’s arms sales are surging. So why are its weapons expos smaller than ever?

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Israel's Iran paradox
03/12/2026

Israel spent 30 years depicting the Iranian regime as an existential threat, and now it is trying to eliminate it. But if the regime falls, which enemy will it choose next? Meron Rapoport joins us under Tel Aviv sirens to talk about the war's real goals, what it means for Israel’s relations with the Palestinians, and why “victory” may only set the stage for an even bigger challenge.


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Where is the PA as Israel annexes the West Bank?
02/26/2026

For more than half a century, Israel’s occupation of the West Bank was framed as temporary, even as realities on the ground told a different story. Now, legal experts say recent government measures have pushed Israel into de facto annexation. In the face of these moves, and in the shadow of the genocide in Gaza, the Palestinian Authority has never looked so weak. Longtime Palestinian affairs journalist Dalia Hatuqa unpacks what all of this means and how it is playing out on the ground.


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Documenting the settler takeover of the West Bank
02/12/2026

Across the occupied West Bank, Palestinian communities are being expelled at an alarming pace. Violent settler attacks are increasingly routine—and often ignored by authorities and much of the Israeli media. For the past two decades, Oren Ziv has documented these communities’ struggles to stay on their land when much of the Israeli press would not. In this episode, he shares how the constant threat of expulsion—whether from coordinated settler attacks, state policies, or both—reshapes lives, and explores what acts of dissent against this new status quo can realistically achieve.


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'Israel is using organized crime to control Palestinian citizens'
01/22/2026

As violent organized crime and police violence reshape everyday life in Palestinian communities in Israel, and as another election approaches, MK Aida Touma-Suleiman reflects on a decade inside the Knesset –– and on the moment she decided she could no longer stay. In a conversation about feminist leadership, political exhaustion, and the limits of trying to fight from within  the Israeli system built to exclude Palestinians, Touma-Suleiman  leaves us to ask: where can the struggle move  when institutional politics can’t deliver justice?


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Marwan Barghouti's long walk to Palestine's freedom
01/08/2026

Over 9,000 Palestinians are currently being held in Israeli prisons and military detention centers. While the majority of their names will be unfamiliar to most, the name of one Palestinian prisoner stands out above all others: Marwan Barghouti. Decades behind bars haven’t dimmed his influence—thanks, in part, to his family’s tireless advocacy. His son Arab Barghouti shares how Marwan’s life embodies both the ordinary struggles of countless Palestinians and the extraordinary impact of one man’s unwavering vision for his people.

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Who's afraid of Palestinian Christianity?
12/18/2025

This time of year, Palestinian Christians are often invoked in media and political discourse as emblems of faith, coexistence, and hope, while the political conditions shaping their lives — including military occupation, genocide, and forced displacement — are ignored. Palestinian theologian and lecturer John Munayer sheds light on the Palestinian Christian experience, from Israeli efforts to separate them from the Arab and Palestinian national movements, to the role of Christian leadership and institutions in legitimizing their subjugation. Arguing that religion and politics cannot be disentangled, he explains why Palestinian liberation theology offers not only a framework for resistance but a challenge to t...


Uncovering the inner workings of an AI genocide
12/04/2025

Investigative journalist Yuval Abraham takes us inside his reporting on the systems driving Israel’s mass killing in Gaza over the past two years. He discusses the core challenges and ethical dilemmas of uncovering state-backed atrocities, and why the stories revealed so far are just the tip of the iceberg. Abraham highlights the need to hold powerful institutions, like Israel’s military accountable rather than focusing only on individual perpetrators, offering a deeper look at the mechanisms that produce and conceal systemic violence.

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Israel emptied half of Gaza. What’s next?
11/21/2025

Over a month into the ceasefire, Gaza’s future remains in the hands of Western powers — with Palestinians largely excluded. Gazan political analyst Muhammad Shehada provides an in-depth look at the diplomatic and geopolitical strategies at play, the ongoing realities of displacement and deprivation inside the Strip, and what this moment might mean for Palestinians’ political horizons.

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What happened to the Palestinian popular struggle?
11/06/2025

In the occupied West Bank today, life looks completely different than it did just two years ago — with unprecedented levels of state-backed settler violence, arbitrary arrests, new road closures, and mounting economic pressure. But resistance, too, is changing. Veteran activist Munther Amira connects this moment to earlier chapters of the Palestinian struggle and reflects on what it means to keep resisting when survival itself has become the fight.


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From the Cemetery of the Living: A Plea for the Rights of Palestinian Detainees
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Reckoning or reverting? Israeli society after the ceasefire
10/23/2025

Two years after October 7, Israeli public opinion remains shaped by fear, grief, and a siege mentality. But could the fragile ceasefire mark a turning point — or will Israel slip back into an “October 6 way of thinking,” ignoring the root causes of the violence and paving the way for future wars? Political analyst, public opinion researcher, and A Land For All member Dahlia Scheindlin joins us to discuss how Israeli attitudes toward the war on Gaza have evolved, whether there’s any possibility of a public reckoning, and what it would take to begin a process of genuine political transformation between...


Rethinking Palestinian public opinion
10/09/2025

How do Palestinians conceive of liberation and hope today, after decades of disillusion, and beyond the narrow language of statehood? In this bleak moment, what forms of governance, sovereignty, or resistance still feel possible?

Zayne Abudaka argues that understanding Palestinian public opinion requires a new approach to polling — one that doesn’t flatten or distort Palestinian perspectives. A co-founder and senior fellow at the Institute for Social and Economic Progress in Ramallah, Abudaka leads the Institute’s polling efforts in the West Bank and Gaza, adapting methods throughout the war to rea...


The only eyes on the ground
09/25/2025

More journalists have been killed in Gaza since October 7, 2023 than in any other conflict since the Committee to Protect Journalists began collecting data in 1992. According to the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate, Israel’s onslaught has killed 250 media workers to date. Yet despite facing conditions without parallel in the history of modern warfare, journalists in Gaza continue to bear witness. With Israel barring foreign reporters from entering the Strip for nearly two years now, Palestinian journalists have shouldered the entire burden of informing the world about the ongoing genocide, reporting on a story that is also their own.

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Israel's eternal war, from Gaza to Tehran
08/28/2025

It’s been nearly two years, and Israel’s genocide in Gaza shows no signs of abating. At the same time, Israel has further entrenched its control over Palestinians in the West Bank, and accelerated its persecution over Palestinian citizens of Israel, while expanding the war to Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, and Iran. Inside Israel, protests against the war among Jewish and Palestinian citizens are continuing to grow louder, but have not yet reached a tipping point. 

In this episode, Orly Noy connects the dots between the unfolding genocide in Gaza and Israeli actions and polic...


What happened to the Green Line?
09/16/2022

Last month, a controversy erupted in Israel when the Tel Aviv municipality, in time for the new school year, distributed maps to classrooms that showed the Green Line. Although the 1949 armistice lines that formed Israel's unofficial borders at the cessation of the 1948 war are internationally recognized, in Israel the Green Line is a contentious point, seen as incorrectly demarcating between "Israel proper" and the settlements in the occupied West Bank. Indeed, in sending the maps to schools, the Tel Aviv municipality flouted Education Ministry guidelines.

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The Jewish Comedian Calling Out Apartheid in Arabic
02/25/2022

Noam Shuster-Eliassi, an Israeli comedian based in south Tel Aviv, spent her childhood and early adulthood invested in a traditional model of coexistence between Israelis and Palestinians. Growing up in Neve Shalom-Wahat al-Salam, a mixed community in central Israel where Jews and Palestinains live together by choice, Shuster-Eliassi took to peace activism as a young adult, becoming part of dialogue groups and working with a UN subsidiary.

Yet she came to find this mode of activism inadequate, she told the +972 Podcast. "I got to a very extreme point where I couldn't deal anymore with how much we...


Excavating Israel's underground settlements
#35
01/13/2022

Archeology is presumed to be a neutral endeavor, a practice of excavation that merely uncovers clues about the past. But according to Israeli archeologist Yonathan Mizrahi, it's easy to frame archeological discoveries in a way that privileges one narrative or one history over another. That's very much what is happening in Israel-Palestine, and a lot of that is concentrated in East Jerusalem.

Until recently, Mizrahi served as the executive director of Emek Shaveh, an Israeli NGO that examines the interplay between archeology and the occupation. In his 15 years at the helm, he witnessed the increasing encroachment of...


The Role of Fiction in Palestinian Liberation
#34
11/09/2021

When Sahar Mustafah, a Palestinian-American author and teacher, heard about the 2015 murder of three Muslim students in North Carolina by their white neighbor, she turned to writing to process the attack and its ramifications.

"It was the kind of event that just rattled me to my core," says Mustafah, who is based in Chicago. "What compels someone that you know, a neighbor, to bring a gun to your door and shoot you in cold blood?"

That Mustafah's 2020 debut novel, “The Beauty of Your Face,” was timely is beyond doubt: it arrived in the final year of a...


Resisting Apartheid Behind Israel’s Prison Walls
#33
10/07/2021

Perhaps the most enthralling story in Israel-Palestine last month was the startling escape of six Palestinians from the notorious Gilboa prison, using simple tools like spoons to dig a tunnel out of their cells and on to freedom. Although the prisoners were re-captured several days later, their feat dominated Israeli news headlines and captured the Palestinian popular imagination.

To unpack the story, +972 editor Amjad Iraqi interviews attorney Abeer Baker, a Palestinian human rights lawyer based in Akka who represents Palestinian prisoners before Israeli courts, about the sweeping nature of Israel’s incarceration regime, the ways in which Is...


A Little Ice Cream Goes a Long Way
#32
07/29/2021

Earlier this month, American ice cream company Ben & Jerry’s announced that will stop selling their products in Israeli settlements located in the occupied West Bank.

The company’s decision has sparked an uproar by Israeli politicians, from the far-right to the Zionist left. Along with cries of “antisemitism” and “economic terrorism,” the Israeli government has called on U.S. states to sanction the company through domestic laws that effectively punish any boycotts or divestments relating to Israel.

In the latest episode of The +972 Podcast, editors Edo Konrad and Amjad Iraqi discuss the significance of the company’...


The Israeli Researchers Unearthing Their Country's Dark Past
#31
06/29/2021

It was in the early days of the Akevot Institute for Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Research that one of the researchers stumbled upon a document that had disappeared since first being published in the mid-1980s. Dubbed the Immigration Document, the 18-page memo authored by an Israeli intelligence officer in 1948 lists the Palestinian villages and towns that had been depopulated by Israeli forces, as well as the ways they had been depopulated.

“It says, among other things that some 70 percent of Palestinian depopulation in Palestine, up to that point in early March of 1948, was due to activities by Jewish fo...


An Uprising for Palestinian Unity
#30
06/02/2021

In late May, Israeli police launched the largest nationwide crackdown against Palestinian citizens of Israel in decades. The campaign, known as Operation Law and Order, has led to the arrest of hundreds of Palestinians who participated in last month’s wave of protests, sparked by the imminent expulsion of Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah, the police raid of Al-Aqsa Mosque, and the war on Gaza.

The editors of +972 Magazine sat down at the height of the crackdown to discuss what led to this moment, the synchronization of the Palestinian struggle from the river to the sea, and ho...


A Night of Jewish Supremacist Violence in Jerusalem
#29
04/30/2021

In this episode, we interview +972 contributor Orly Noy about the shocking display of racism and brutality in Jerusalem last week, when hundreds of Israeli Jews, many of them young men, marched through the streets of the city chanting "Death to Arabs.” The march was organized by Lehava, a notorious extreme right wing organization, after several videos posted on TikTok showed Palestinians harassing ultra-Orthodox Jews.

Noy, who witnessed the violence that night, spoke about how Lehava preys on disempowered young Mizrahi and ultra-Orthodox Jews, how the Israeli and international media got the story wrong, and what kind of ho...


Will This Palestinian Matriarch Get to Keep Her Jerusalem Home?
#28
03/30/2021

As the coronavirus pandemic spread across the world this past year, home has become an especially important source of shelter and safety. While some governments have responded to pressure from activists and paused evictions, Palestinians in East Jerusalem still face uncertainty.

That's the case with the Sumarin family, who live just outside Jerusalem's Old City in the Palestinian village of Silwan. The Jewish National Fund and the Elad organization have long been promoting Jewish settlement in the area — often at the expense of the Palestinian residents. 

In April, after a decades-long legal battle, an Israeli cou...


Six Shots in Two Seconds: Investigating the Fatal Shooting of Ahmad Erekat
#27
02/26/2021

On June 23, 2020, Ahmad Erakat crashed into the Container checkpoint in the occupied West Bank. Border Police officers shot him six times in two seconds, claiming he had attempted a car-ramming attack. But a new forensic investigation undermines the authorities’ version of events.

At the request of the Erakat family, Forensic Architecture, a research agency that relies on spatial and media tools to investigate human rights violations, in collaboration with Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, examined the incident. The visual reconstruction was published this week, eight months after the crash.

The investigation sought to establish the ci...


Why is Netanyahu Suddenly Courting Palestinian Voters?
#26
01/29/2021

Israel is heading into its fourth election in less than two years, and with the COVID-19 pandemic, is facing rather uncharted territory. Like previous rounds, these elections are in many ways a referendum on Netanyahu. But there are bigger factors that could determine if the fourth contest will be different from the last.

+972 Magazine Editor-in-Chief Edo Konrad and Editor Amjad Iraqi sat down to talk about how the elections are pitting different strands of the Israeli right against each other for control of the government, and the reasons behind the disintegration of the Palestinian-led Joint List.

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How Palestine Advocates Are Gearing Up for the Post-Trump Era
#25
12/18/2020

There was palpable relief, and even joy, throughout the progressive movement when the U.S. presidential race was finally called for Joe Biden at the beginning of November. Four years of an administration that relentlessly attacked every minority group imaginable would finally be coming to an end, and with it, perhaps, a move away from constant firefighting.

Yet Biden's election was by no means welcomed by progressives as an unmitigated win. Beyond the unimaginable wreckage left behind by the Trump administration — damage that will likely outlast Biden's presidency — those in the movement are also clear-eyed about the limi...