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What if everything you believe about why you are the way you are is only half the story? In this episode, Joel and Jim take on the most common explanation people give for their own personality: I am this way because of what happened to me. It is not wrong, they argue. It is incomplete. Personality forms from a mix of what you were born with, the environment you interacted with, and what you keep building in response.

From there the conversation opens up into why so much growth work quietly fails, the difference between healing and...

Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman explore the Enneagram’s three centers of intelligence: Head, Heart, and Body. They discuss the function of each center, what happens when it is overused, what it costs us when it is missing, and what becomes possible through integration. Head thinks. Heart connects. Body acts.

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In this episode, Jim and Joel return after a break to explain the deeper work happening behind the scenes at The Art of Growth. They revisit the foundations of the Enneagram, clarifying what they mean by “type” through three key components: core motivation, schema, and expression.

They also introduce a major shift in their current work: moving beyond the idea of nine types with separate instinctual subtypes and toward a more integrated model of 54 types, where each Enneagram type is inseparable from its instinctual stack. Along the way, they discuss why some older Enneagram descriptions no l...

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Join us as we explore the intersection of the Enneagram and ancient wisdom with Belinda. Discover how ancient practices and the Enneagram's insights into personality can guide us toward deeper self-awareness and connection with the natural world. Belinda shares her journey and practical rituals that help cultivate presence and balance in our lives. Tune in for a conversation that bridges modern understanding with timeless wisdom.

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In this episode of The Art of Growth, Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman sit down once again with therapist Michelle Pruett to explore “faux wisdom” in the therapy world—those phrases, concepts, and quick fixes that sound good but miss the heart of true healing. Together, they unpack how readiness, resistance, and relational depth play vital roles in transformation. They also revisit the importance of calibrated support and challenge, the misuse of trauma language, and how timing matters more than advice.

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