The Mineral Rights Podcast: Mineral Rights | Royalties | Oil and Gas | Matt Sands
Welcome to The Mineral Rights Podcast! I'm here to help you to make the most out of your oil and gas mineral rights and royalty interests. From the latest mineral rights news to featured guests, get the knowledge and resources you need to manage your minerals and royalties.
MRP 300: Land Investing Secrets with Jessey Kwong

In this episode, the co-founder of Pebble REI and host of "Land Investing Business Secrets" podcast reveals how his platform now serves both land investors and mineral rights companies. Discover the striking parallels between these two real estate niches, from direct mail campaigns to county records research.
Jessey shares his unconventional start (including closing his first deal on the toilet via Facebook Marketplace), real success metrics, and how technology is streamlining property acquisition workflows. Whether you're curious about surface rights or looking for alternative real estate investments that share DNA with mineral rights, this conversation bridges two...
MRP 299: Mineral Rights News September 2025

This episode covers several critical developments affecting mineral rights owners, from post-production deductions from royalty checks in North Dakotato Wyoming's controversial proposal for reclaiming abandoned mineral rights. We also discuss the recent Cactus Water Services Texas Supreme Court ruling on produced water ownership and how it provides clarity around hydrocarbons contained in produced water while leaving questions unanswered related to lithium and other valuable minerals. All this and more! As always, links to the articles discussed can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 298: Sneak Preview of the 2025 NARO National Convention

In this episode, we provide an exclusive sneak peek of the upcoming National Association of Royalty Owners (NARO) National Convention in Oklahoma City from September 30 to October 3, 2025. This year's event at the Omni Hotel promises to be a comprehensive educational experiences for mineral and royalty owners, featuring sessions on mineral valuation, advanced lease negotiation strategies, and emerging legal issues like pore space rights.
This annual gathering offers mineral and royalty owners an unparalleled opportunity to accelerate their knowledge, network with fellow owners from across the country, and gain direct access to the industry's top legal minds and...
MRP 297: Will the One Big Beautiful Bill Act Boost the Value of your Minerals?

In this episode, we break down the sweeping changes in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBA) and what they mean for mineral and royalty owners. While this behemoth 940-page legislation touches on a lot of different areas, we focused on the provisions that could directly or indirectly impact our listeners.
It's no surprise that this bill represents a complete reversal from the previous administration's energy policies; it creates what may be the most favorable environment for oil and gas development that we've seen in decades. From mandatory quarterly federal lease sales to restored tax advantages for...
MRP 296: Listener Questions August 2025

In this episode, we tackle eight detailed questions from mineral rights owners across the country, including Stephen, Tracy, Kathy, Caesura, Linda, Julie, Nancy, and Tim. The episode covers complex topics ranging from pooling versus allocation wells in Texas, when minerals are at their peak value, to strategies for avoiding common scams targeting mineral rights owners. We provide practical, actionable advice for both seasoned and new mineral rights owners navigating everything from lease negotiations to tax implications of inherited properties.
As always, the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.<...
MRP 295: Mineral Rights News August 2025

In this episode we discuss the latest oil & gas and mineral rights news for August of 2025. From an oil market characterized by uncertainty and volatility, the latest outlook for precious metals, and what the future holds for fossil fuels (you might be surprised by the answer), we explore how geopolitical tensions and economic uncertainty are creating ripple effects throughout the energy sector. As always, we wrap up with the latest drilling rig count and a discussion on where things might head next.
Links to the articles and resources mentioned can be found in the show notes at min...
MRP 294: Are Your Royalties Safe Online? Cybersecurity Tips for Mineral Owners

Mineral and royalty owners face unique cybersecurity risks that most people never consider. From fraudulent emails requesting banking changes to sophisticated scams targeting royalty payments, cybercriminals increasingly view mineral owners as attractive targets due to their regular income streams and valuable assets. In this essential episode, we break down the most common digital threats facing mineral owners and provide straightforward, non-technical strategies to protect your personal information, financial accounts, and royalty payments. Whether you're tech-savvy or prefer to keep things simple, you'll discover practical steps you can implement immediately to safeguard your mineral income and personal data from online...
MRP 293: Why Your Royalty Checks Keep Dropping (And How to Predict What's Next)

In this technical but accessible episode, we demystify Decline Curve Analysis (DCA), the proven scientific method that oil companies have used for 80 years to predict how much oil and gas a well will produce over its lifetime. This episode is essential listening for mineral owners who want to understand how their future royalty payments are calculated and why their checks start high and then decline over time. Be sure to listen as I tell you how you can learn to forecast your future royalty payments yourself (and when you have your minerals valued you will understand the process that i...
MRP 292: Listener Questions July 2025

In this episode, we tackle questions submitted by Jean, Cole, Stuart, Melissa, Greg, Janet, C.J., and Lowell ranging from finding updated unit descriptions in Texas to organizing digital records and planning for the next generation. The episode provides practical guidance on navigating state regulatory websites, understanding the differences between production and sales volumes, establishing tax basis for mineral sales, and preventing mineral rights fragmentation through proper estate planning.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 291: Mineral Rights News July 2025

In this month’s mineral rights news episode, we cover significant developments affecting mineral and royalty owners across the United States including a new USGS report on untapped oil under federal lands, recent Arkansas lithium royalty decisions, recent geopolitical impacts on oil markets, and shifting drilling patterns across major U.S. basins!
As always links to the articles and resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 290: Listener Questions June 2025

In this month's listener Q&A episode, we tackle seven diverse questions covering inheritance challenges, tax strategies, emerging lithium opportunities, and practical lease evaluation. Be sure to listen to hear actionable guidance for mineral owners navigating complex situations, from dealing with inherited properties to understanding the difference between pooling and allocation wells. As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 289: The Essential Learning Guide for Mineral Owners

https://mineralrightspodcast.com/mrp-289-the-essential-learning-guide-for-mineral-owners/Managing mineral rights and royalties can feel overwhelming, especially when you're first starting out or have recently inherited these assets. The oil and gas industry operates with its own complex language of technical terms and acronyms that can make even seasoned professionals feel lost at times. However, with the right educational foundation and knowing where to find reliable information, mineral owners can successfully navigate this landscape and make informed decisions about their valuable assets. This episode provides a curated guide to the most valuable learning resources available today, from beginner-friendly organizations to advanced technical...
MRP 288: Our Favorite Tools for Managing Your Minerals in 2025

In this episode, we share our favorite tools and resources for managing mineral rights and royalties effectively. As we have discussed in the past, there are four key phases to getting a handle on your minerals: knowing what you own, understanding different types of oil and gas interests, locating your property and researching activity, and determining value. Mineral and royalty management is a step-by-step journey where different tools become relevant at different times so we talk about the essential tools that we recommend for each step in your mineral management journey.
Be sure to bookmark the show no...
MRP 287: Mineral Rights News June 2025

In this episode of the Mineral Rights Podcast, I cover significant developments affecting mineral and royalty owners across the United States. The episode examines North Dakota's recent legislation establishing royalty rates for rare earth minerals, analyzes the implications of the new US-Ukraine critical minerals agreement on US mineral owners, highlights a major USGS resource assessment in Wyoming, and provides the latest drilling activity updates.
As always, links to the articles mentioned and additional resources can be found at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 286: The Best Kept Secret in Mineral Rights: NARO Executive Director Jon Corkern on Why You Don't Have to Go It Alone

Jon Corkern serves as Executive Director of the National Association of Royalty Owners (NARO), bringing a unique combination of nonprofit management expertise and personal mineral ownership experience to the role. His path to NARO began not through an oil and gas industry background, but as a mineral rights owner who found himself overwhelmed by lease offers and complex paperwork related to his mineral interests. Like many NARO members, Corkern initially had no idea how to evaluate whether offers were fair or what steps he should take to protect his interests. Through his connection with past NARO president David Smith, h...
MRP 285: The Mineral Owner's Guide to Division Orders

In this episode of the Mineral Rights Podcast, we provide a comprehensive checklist for mineral owners on handling division orders. From what division orders are, how to verify your decimal interest is correct, when to get professional help, and best practices for documentation. This essential guide helps ensure you get paid correctly from the start so you can protect your interests when a new well begins producing.
As always, the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 284: Listener Questions - May 2025

In this episode, we tackle a diverse set of listener questions submitted by Jim, Greg, Shelly, Sean, Denny, and Christie. Questions range from hedging strategies against oil price fluctuations to taxation of royalties held in suspense, resolving payment discrepancies, tracking down mineral ownership documentation, and managing working interests.
As always links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 283: Mineral Rights News May 2025

In this month’s news, we discuss moves by the Trump administration to accelerate energy project approvals and development of critical minerals like lithium, latest Arkansas lithium developments, how the industry is responding to falling oil prices and economic uncertainty from tariffs. Meanwhile, natural gas prices remain stable, providing some security for royalty owners during a period of oil price volatility, and we give an update on the current drilling activity across major U.S. basins!
As always, links to the articles discussed can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 282: Listener Questions - April 2025

In this month’s episode, we answer listener questions submitted by Jonathan, Stephen, Lisa, Michael, Nancy, James, and Greg. From interpreting well production tests, cost of mineral rights valuations, emerging lithium opportunities in Pennsylvania, concerns about missing royalty payments after an operator bankruptcy, understanding why your well was shut in, timing mineral sales around the election and lithium rights in leases, and filing mineral deeds after a surface property sale.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 281: Mineral Rights News April 2025

In this month’s mineral rights news episode, we analyze the unexpected OPEC announcement of plans to raise output by 411,000 barrels per day starting in May 2025 coupled with tariffs that sent oil prices tumbling 7%. We also examine how the Trump administration's new tariff policies are reshaping global energy markets, particularly for LNG exports, and discuss the implications of secondary tariffs targeting countries importing Venezuelan oil. Plus, we review the latest rig count data showing a potential shift toward natural gas production in several key basins.
As always, links to the articles discussed can be found in the sho...
MRP 280: Listener Questions - March 2025

In this month’s episode, we answer a diverse set of listener questions submitted by Nathan, Darion, Holly, Richard, Julie, Joe, and Margaret. Questions range from valuing mineral rights portfolios across multiple states to verifying division orders, keeping mineral interests within families, researching active leases, buying minerals and royalties, and the complexities of Texas Relinquishment Act lands.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 279: Mineral Rights News March 2025

In this month’s news, we discuss how the energy landscape is being dramatically reshaped by policy decisions from the Trump administration, including the repeal of methane regulations, new tariffs on energy imports, and sanctions affecting Venezuelan crude. These changes come as OPEC+ begins unwinding production cuts, creating a complex mix of supply pressures that could affect both oil and gas prices. While oil has dropped to around $66 per barrel, natural gas prices have strengthened considerably. For mineral owners, these developments create both challenges and opportunities—tariffs on foreign crude could stimulate domestic production in certain regions, and we give...
MRP 278: Rare Earth Minerals and Opportunities for Property Owners

Rare earth minerals or elements might sound exotic, but they're increasingly vital to modern life and global geopolitics. As the United States seeks new sources of these critical materials—including a potential deal with Ukraine that's making headlines—mineral rights owners across America need to understand what this means for their properties.
We cover three main topics:
What rare earth elements are and why they've become so valuable in the modern economy
The geopolitics of rare earths, including the developing U.S.-Ukraine minerals deal and what it means for domestic mining
H...
MRP 277: Listener Questions - February 2025

In this month’s episode, we answer a diverse set of questions submitted by Julie, Tom, Dan, Nicole, Melissa, Erik, and Gary. From how to address post production costs that were improperly deducted by a previous operator, to pooling and what happens if another landowner refuses to lease their minerals, to how to notify your operator about a change in ownership. We answer these questions and more and address some common challenges mineral owners face when managing their interests.
Many of the questions in this episode are covered in my Mineral Management Basics onl...
MRP 276: Mineral Rights News February 2025

In this episode of The Mineral Rights Podcast, we explore several major developments affecting mineral and royalty owners in early 2025. The appointment of Kathleen Sgamma to head the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) signals potential changes in federal land management that could benefit mineral owners, particularly those with interests adjacent to federal lands. The episode also covers OPEC's production decisions, significant developments in domestic lithium production, and current drilling activity across major U.S. basins and our updated outlook for 2025.
As always, links to the articles discussed can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 275: What the Trump Executive Orders Mean for Your Minerals

In this episode, we explore the sweeping executive orders recently signed by President Trump that signal a significant shift in domestic energy policy. The new administration has declared a "National Energy Emergency" and introduced the "Unleashing American Energy" executive order, marking a dramatic change from previous policies by prioritizing traditional energy production. While these changes primarily impact federal lands, they could have broader implications for all mineral and royalty owners through their effects on energy markets, particularly natural gas prices and LNG exports.
Shout out to Greg (and others) for asking for our take on the change...
MRP 274: Protect Your Legacy: Smart Estate Document Storage

In this episode, we tackle a crucial but often overlooked aspect of estate planning: how to properly store and organize your important documents. We pay special attention to the unique needs of mineral rights and royalty interest owners, whose estate planning often involves additional layers of complexity.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
Be sure to download my free Estate Planning Document Storage Checklist which outlines the essential Estate Planning Documents and how to store them using the three-tier storage system...
MRP 273: Listener Questions - January 2025

In this month's episode, we answer a diverse set of questions submitted by Anna, Robbie, @dnk4559 (via YouTube), Edith, Karen, Tracy, and Brad. The discussion covers important topics including property tax protests in Texas, surface rights conflicts in Oklahoma, inheritance issues with division orders, how to calculate your decimal interest, royalty payment calculations in Louisiana, and working interest complications.
Many of the questions in this episode are addressed in my Mineral Management Basics online course, from how to read a legal description, how to perform a title search, and how to identify nearby oil and gas activity...
MRP 272: Taking Over Mineral Management

In this episode, we discuss the process of taking over mineral rights management from a professional mineral manager. From why you might consider self-management, the essential steps for making the transition, and how to set up effective management systems, we cover what you should know. We also share practical tips for staying educated about industry trends and planning for future generations. Whether you're considering taking over management of your minerals or just want to better understand what your current mineral manager should be doing, this episode provides valuable insights for all mineral and royalty owners.
As always, t...
MRP 271: Mineral Rights News January 2025

In this episode we discuss major developments that could shape the energy industry in 2025: a pivotal Supreme Court case that could expand oil transportation from Utah's Uinta Basin, major oil companies maintaining financial discipline despite political pressure to increase drilling, the Permian Basin's growing natural gas challenges, and ExxonMobil's innovative plan to power AI data centers with natural gas. And as always we wrap with a look at the latest drilling rig count.
As always, links to the articles discussed can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 270: Listener Questions - December 2024

In this episode, we answer listener questions from Reuben, Robin, Lacey, Steve, James, George, and Elisabeth about figuring out if you are getting paid correctly, understanding what is going with your Texas property tax bills, getting paid interest on late royalty payments, transferring ownership of royalty interests and how to get paid, understanding why well gets shut-in and what that means, and how to find out how many acres you own in wells shown on your division orders, and more!
As always, you can find the show notes with links to the resources mentioned in this episode...
MRP 269: Understanding Royalty Based Loans - A Guide for Mineral Owners

https://mineralrightspodcast.com/mrp-269-understanding-royalty-based-loans-a-guide-for-mineral-owners/While borrowing against oil and gas royalties isn't widely discussed among mineral owners, it is an important financing option for those receiving regular royalty payments. This practice, known as Reserve Based Lending (RBL), has been common in the oil and gas industry for decades but is now becoming more accessible to individual royalty owners. Understanding how these loans work, their requirements, and their risks can help large mineral owners make informed decisions about leveraging their royalty income without having to sell their valuable mineral interests. We also discuss other options for borrowing against modest r...
MRP 268: Mineral Rights News December 2024

In this month’s news episode, we discuss two important cabinet picks that will have the biggest impact on mineral & royalty owners, the latest major oil & gas company to dip their toes into the Arkansas lithium boom, an update on the Arkansas lithium royalty rate application, and the latest rig count!
As always, you can find the links to the articles mentioned in this episode in the show notes which can be found at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 267: Will the New EPA Methane Tax Get Passed on to Royalty Owners?

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently finalized the Biden administration's new tax on methane emissions from oil and gas operations, raising important questions for royalty owners about potential impacts on their royalty payments in the form of additional post-production deductions. And while this rule may get overturned by the GOP majority in the house, in the meantime operators may still need to report emissions for 2024.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this week's episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 266: The Case for $12.50 Natural Gas

Natural gas currently trades at a massive discount to crude oil based on its energy content. While oil has been hovering at around $70 per barrel, natural gas trades at just over $3 per thousand cubic feet (mcf). We talk about how this pricing disconnect is creating opportunities as two major new demand sources emerge: AI data centers requiring reliable power and innovative gas-to-liquid technologies that can convert natural gas directly into gasoline and other fuels.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 265: Listener Questions – November 2024

In this episode, we answer listener questions from Candido, @kidcurry4107, and Kent about royalty deed scams and how to make sure a seller owns what they say they own, forced pooling and becoming a non-consenting mineral owner, how to download offset well data and perform due diligence on an investment, and how to determine interest on late payments.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 264: Mineral Rights News November 2024

In this month’s Mineral Rights News episode, we cover the launch of a tokenized mineral rights investment platform called "Elmnts" on the Solana protocol, the latest advancements in the Southwest Arkansas lithium project, what Trump winning the election could mean for the oil and gas markets, plus the rig count!
As always, links to the articles and resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com
MRP 263: What You Should Know About Fixed vs Floating NPRIs

When you grant a portion of your royalty right to someone without granting any of the other rights, you are granting what is called a Non-Participating Royalty Interest (NPRI). It does not “participate” in the ability to receive bonus payment or delay rentals, or the executive rights. A Non-Participating Royalty Interest or NPRI allows the owner to receive a portion of the royalty payments from any oil and gas that is sold but does not give them the right to lease the associated mineral rights. In this episode, we dive into the world of NPRI's and the difference between "floatin...
MRP 262: Listener Questions - October 2024

In this episode, we answer listener questions from Joyce, Steve, Bruce, Lydia, Sandra, Gary, and Sandra from strategies for minimizing taxes on royalty income, different ways to invest in mineral rights, including using 1031 exchanges, and guidance on calculating ownership interests and royalty payments. We also touch on the intricacies of negotiating oil and gas leases, tracking down mineral rights ownership, and managing inherited mineral interests.
As always, links to the resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com.
MRP 261: Mineral Rights News October 2024

https://mineralrightspodcast.com/mrp-261-mineral-rights-news-october-2024/In this month's news episode, we discuss two major stories about the Arkansas lithium extraction boom, a man is caught stealing royalties from a mineral owner, OPEC's forecast on the phasing out of oil, and the latest rig count!
As always, links to the articles and resources mentioned in this episode can be found in the show notes at mineralrightspodcast.com