The Mockingcast
The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast of Mockingbird Ministries. In each episode, hosts RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl survey the cultural landscape looking for grace (and its absence), playing out in unexpected and compelling ways. We take our name from the mockingbird and its peculiar habit of repeating the song it's heard--which we seek to do when it comes to the Good News. In other words, any mockery is purely incidental(!). You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com. Audio production provided by TJ Hester. Video production by Chad Blevins.
Episode 301: Old Spice for the Soul
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk sugary misconceptions, body odor obliviousness, and forgotten grace. Also, Sarah elicits a memorable wink, while Dave doesn't look back in anger.
Click here to read Olga Khazan's article in The Atlantic, "A Halloween Myth That Can Finally Die." Click here to read "Do I Have Something in My Teeth?" by Sam Bush on Mbird. Click here to read "Living in Community Is Where Self Illusions Go to Die" by Elizabeth Oldfield on Aeon. Click here to read Lydia Sohn's "The Grace We Seek But Have Forgotten" in the NY Times.Episode 300: The Mockingcast Turns 300!
In this special landmark episode, RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk celebrity forgiveness, unskilled prayer, and ordinary overcorrections. They also read a bunch of heartening listener messages, in the process uncovering a secret Mcast shrine in a Canadian bookstore. Fast-forward to the 34 minute mark to bypass the (self-)celebratory content.
Click here to support Mockingbird financially. Please note: all monthly donors receive a complimentary subscription to our print magazine. Click here to sign up for our 20th Anniversary NYC Conference on April 15-17, 2027. Click here to read the interview with RJ Heijmen on Mbird about the nuts and bolts...Episode 299: Disrespect the Vegetables
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk hidden greens, panic-inducing protocols, blame games, and funeral trends. Email [email protected] with any favorite stories or episodes, and we'll read it aloud on episode 300.
Heads-up for those with kids in the car: there is a brief mention of the Cornell case at the beginning of the cast. Fast forward to the 4:10 mark if you'd like to skip.
Click here to Ashlie Stevens piece in Salon, "Hide Your Vegetables. You're an Adult" Click here to read Rebecca Onion's review of Huberman's Protocols in Slate Click here to read "...Episode 298: We Don't Have the Black Death But We Do Have iPhones
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk relational losses, medieval mental health, and robot apocalypses. Also, Sarah holds onto a worthless heirloom, while RJ comes clean about the desert fathers.
Click here to watch the video of the statistic reported by Nick and Robin Gough Click here for more infomation, or to pre-register for Mockingbird's upcoming conference in Minnesota (Oct 2&3) Click here to read Katherine Harvey's article about Medieval Mental Health on Aeon Click here to read "The Death of Shame Is Tearing Us Apart" by Jay Caspian Kang in The New Yorker Click here to read the...Episode 297: The Holiness of a Substitute Science Teacher
In the season premiere, RJ, Sarah and Dave talk departed Dolly, fossilized trilobites, and the Uni-Context. Also, Sarah says goodbye to some champagne flutes, while Bob Dylan makes a cameo.
Click here for more details, or to pre-register, for our upcoming conference in Minnesota (10/2&3). Click here to read Sarah's "When Jesus Tells a Boob Joke" Click here to read Ethan Richardson's tribute to Wendell Berry. And here to read Ryan Tinetti's. Click here to read Robert Lynch's "What an Eighth Grader Who Drew a Penis on My 510-Million-Year-Old Fossil Taught Me About Status" Click here to read Derek...Episode 296: The Curb That the Builders Rejected
In their season finale, RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Costco skaters, commodified religion, and the God who isn't supposed-to-be. Also, Dave doubles down on hotdogmaxxing while Sarah's remembers jncos.Â
Click here to respond to the opening appeal Click here to read "What I Learned about Loss While Skateboarding at Costco" by Conor Dougherty in The NY Times Click here to read Freya India's substack about "The Commodification of Christianity" To download The Mockingapp click here for Apple and here for Android Click here to read NBW's sermon "Creatures from the God Lagoon"Â
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Episode 295: The Blessing of Being Forgotten
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk forced cheeriness, prediction addiction, satisficing breakthroughs, and the grammar of grace. Also, Sarah visits the mothership while Dave maximizes hot dogs.
Click here to read about Starbucks notes in The Boston Globe. Click here to read Joshua Rothman's essay "Do We Think Too Much About the Future?" in The New Yorker. Click here to read "The Blessing of Being Forgotten" by John Pennylegion on Mbird. Click here to read about The Nobel-Prize Winning Psychologist Who Thought He Found the Secret to Happiness in The NY Times. Click here to read Trygve...Episode 294: Who Do You Think You Are Miss Astorbutt?
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk casinofication, sketch comedy, main character energy, and self-transcendence. Also, RJ yearns to be too small to fail, while Sarah learns her son used to be a light bulb.
Click here to listen to the recordings for our recent conference in New York City Click here to register for the 20th Anniversary NYC Conference (4/15-17/2027) Click here to read Russell Moore's newsletter "Against the Casinofication of the Church" Click here to read the NY Times interview with Bob Odenkirk Click here to read Megan Garber's piece in the Atlantic about The New...Episode 293: The Secret Vault of Thomas Kinkade
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk underachieving parents, hype aversion, and the impassability of God. Also, Dave reconsiders Iron Maiden while Sarah has a run-in at the farmer's market.
Click here for more information about this week's Mockingbird Conference in New York City (4/23-25).
Click here for more information about our Fall Conference in Minneapolis (10/2-3).
Click here to read "Parents, Consider Underachieving" by Rachel Feintzeig in The NY Times.
Click here to read about The People Who Shun Super Popular Pop Culture by Anna Holmes in The Atlantic.
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In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk starting a band, the tyranny of metrics, meaning fatigue, and the second most honest day of the (church) year. Also, Dave uncovers an animated conspiracy while Sarah bumps into an alternate timeline.
Click here for more information about the upcoming Mbird Conference in NYC (4/23-25), including RJ's pre-conference church renewal seminar. For inquiries about scholarships, email [email protected]. Click here to read "Start a Band, Even If You're Terrible" by Hugo Lindgren. Click here to read (or listen to) Derek Thompson's interview with C. Thi Nguyen about How Metrics Make...Episode 291: Happiness Weighs an Extra Twenty Pounds
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk affective forecasting, fantasy literature, workplace mattering, and collapsed demands. Also, a punk rocker gets a miracle bus ticket, and the ice monster comes for our kids.
Click here to register for the Spring Mbird Conference in NYC (4/23-25) Click here to listen to Sarah's sermon "I Like Your Dancing", delivered at RJ's church. Click here to read "Most of Us Are Bad at Predicting What Will Make Us Happy" by Ruston Dodd on The Athletic. Click here to read Francis Spufford's defense of fantasy in The Guardian. Click here to read...Episode 290: Sanctuary of the Pitiful Heart
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk face functions, last breaths, cringe churches, and Monkey Jesus. Also, Sarah runs into a teenage witch while RJ survives an iguanapocalypse. This episode is dedicated to the memory of Derek Sweatman.
Click here to register for the upcoming NYC Mockingbird conference (4/23-25). Click here to read "Is the Backlash to Facial Conformity Finally Upon Us?" by Valerie Monroe in Allure. Click here to read "Ash Wednesday Asks Nothing" by Jacob Lupfer in Commonweal. Click here to read "A Church of Cringe" by Todd Brewer on Mbird. Click here to read the...Episode 289: Throw Parties, Give Gifts, Tell Stories
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Lieutenant Dan season, holy inconvenience, millennial oversocialization, and playful faith. Also, Sarah buys a rebellious sweatshirt while RJ comes to terms with his inner delivery boy.
Click here to watch the toddler yacht rock Dave and Sarah mention Click here to order a copy of the Beauty Issue of The Mockingbird Magazine Click here to register for the NYC Mbird Conference (4/23-25) Click here to read "Lieutenant Dan Season" by Matt Lindeman on Mbird Click here to read "The Ugly Side of the Truth" by Gretchen Ronnevik Click here to read "...Episode 288: A Dog Named Lucifer
Last episode of the year, in which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Knives Out, self-checkout lines, optional futures, and how not to hate Christmas. Also, Sarah gets a Zippo while heaven and earth meet at an unlikely funeral.
Click here to read Dave's review of Knives Out: Wake Up Dead Man on Mbird Click here to read Valerie Trapp's piece in The Atlantic on "The One Line Americans (Weirdly) Choose to Wait In" Click here to "From Option to Obligation" by Paul Skallas in the Lindy Newsletter Click here to read Sarah's "No More Flaccid Christmas Stockings" on...Episode 287: All the Blessed Interruptions
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk advent calendars, perfectionist musicians, interrupting mothers, and the Batman effect. The gang also takes a field trip to an acute mental health ward across the pond.
Click here to respond to the opening appeal. Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "Advent Calendars Are Totally Out of Control" in The Atlantic. Click here to read "The Quest for Perfection Is Stunting Our Society" by Jonathan Biss in The NY Times. Click here to read "Can You Stop?" by Heather Havrilesky on Ask Polly Click here for the abstract of the study on...Episode 286: Miracle at the Body Shop
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk picky eaters, shameless monsters, wartime tragedies, and the uselessness of God. Also, RJ wets the bed (and never looks back).
Click here to listen to the recordings from the recent Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA. Click here to read "In Defense of Picking Eating" by Irina Dumistrescu on Serious Eats. Click here to read Belle Tindall's piece on Seen and Unseen, "We Needs a Sense of Shame -- But Need Mercy Even More." Click here for more details about the 2026 NYC Mbird Conference (4/23-25). Click here to read "The End of...Episode 285: A Beautiful Day to Yell at God
In which RJ, Sarah and Dave talk intentional everything, morbid curiosity, Methodist exorcists, and Hollywood epiphanies. Also, Sarah praises her favorite horror film, while the boys gush about Task.
Click here to register for our Fall Conference in Charlottesville, VA (11/14&15) Click here to read When Did Everything Become So âIntentionalâ? by Marie Solis in the NY Times Click here to read The Perks of Morbid Curiosity by Coltan Scrivener in The Atlantic Click here to read "Exponents of Falsehood" by Jason Micheli on Mbird Click here to listen to the Mcast episode Sarah mentions, "What Am I Gonna Do A...Episode 284: The Telephone of Life
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk painless tattoos, workaholic scripts, sloppy social media, and Japanese lifesavers. Also, Sarah gets down with a theater full of fifth graders before singing with church full of Norwegians. Closing music courtesy of Voice of Joy.
Click here for more details about -- or to register for -- the Fall Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (11/14&15). Click here to read in the Atlantic about how "People Are Getting Tattoos Under Anesthesia." Click here to watch the short film, Beneath the Ink. Click here to read "If I Work Harder, Will You Love Me?"...Episode 283: The Ol' Telling the Truth Trick
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk silent retreats, repentant writing, alien mercy, and Hallmark movies. Also, RJ goes Confucian while Dave spitballs a new kind of Dry January.
Click here to read Ben Brasch's article "Silent Retreats Are Surging in Popularity" in the Washington Post. Click here to read Lauren Jackson's newsletter on "The Pscyhological Value of Repentance" in the NY Times. Click here to read Sarah's "Grace in an Age of Vengeance" on Mbird. Click here to read Ashley Hales's interview with Elizabeth Bruenig in Christianity Today, "Alien Mercy." Click here to read Elizabeth Bruenig's lengthy...Episode 282: Do It Afraid
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk predatory advice-giving, suspicious mission statements, unloving algorithms, and atoning physicians. Also, Dave's son wins a big award.
Click here to read Russell Shaw's article in the Atlantic, "When Your Kidâs Best Friend Is a Great Big Problem." Click here to read the NY Times interview with Brene Brown. Click here to read NBW's "Sufficiently Suspicious" newsletter. Click here to read "Excuses, Excuses" by Sam Bush on Mbird. Click here to read "A Family Doctor's Search for Salvation" in the New Yorker.Episode 281: Fluffy Pens and Perfectionist Pain
In the season premiere, RJ, Sarah and Dave talk nightmare summers, tween retailers, ethical checklists, and the deadliest addiction of all. We also learn the whole point of Sarah.
Click here to read Dave's post on "Lessons from a (Miserable) Summer on Crutches". Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "What Claire's Once Gave Tween Girls" on The Atlantic. Click here to read "The Pain of Perfectionsism" by Leslie Jamison on The New Yorker. Click here to read "Bad Brains" by James Kimmel Jr on Slate. Click here to read "Jesus Doesn't Care When You Wake Up" by Todd...Bonus Episode: "The Hawaiian Shirt Guy at at Wedding" from Terrible Parables
Mockingcasters looking for something to listen to while the crew is on summner hiatus, look no further! We're cross-posting the first episode of the new season of our Terrible Parables podcast, "The Hawaiian Shirt Guy at a Wedding" in which long time Mockingbird contributors Cali Yee, Todd Brewer and Bryan Jarrell parse the parable of the Wedding Banquet that Jesus tells in Matthew 22:1-14.
Listen to more episodes of Terrible Parables on Spotify Listen to more episodes of Terrible Parables on Apple Click here to order a copy of the Law & Gospel issue of The Mockingbird MagazineEpisode 279: We Are All Nepo Babies
In their last episode before the summer hiatus, RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk afternoon pop-ins, cigarette nostalgia, do-gooder derogation, and rejected generations. Also, RJ watches Cobra Kai while Sarah's son (thankfully) opts not to take over the world.
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Click here to read Patricia Shannon's column, "Let's Bring Back the Lost Art of the Afternoon Visit" in Southern Living Click here to read Vox's Future Perfect newsletter about do-gooder derogation by Sigal Samuel Click here to read David Brooks' article "We Are the Most Rejected Generation"...Episode 278: Big Joe Breaks the Silence
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk marketing trauma, cultural decline, and the pluses and minuses of the silent treatment. Also, Sarah goes on a date to WalMart, while RJ tries real hard to be the shepherd.
Click here to read Ellen Cushing's article "The Brands Are Very Sorry About Your Trauma." Click here to read Is This the Worst-Ever Era of American Pop Culture? by Spencer Kornhaber. Click here to read "Deafening Silence" by Sam Bush on Mbird. Click here to read David Marchese's interview with Ocean Vuong in the NY Times.Episode 277: The Big Relief of a Good Dishwasher
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Pope Francis, dirty dishes, eternal life, and Dave's new book, The Big Relief. Also, RJ bleeds in the pulpit while Sarah takes us to the alley.
Click here to listen to (and watch) Gregory Porter sing "Take Me to the Alley". Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "There Are Two Types of Dishwasher People" in the Atlantic. Click here to read "The Work of Small Talk" from the Oliver Bateman Does the Work substack. Click here to order Dave's book, The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World. ...Episode 276: Love Has a Million Disguises (But Winning Is Simply Not One)
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk comic marriages, unruly kids, brainwashed Christians and Lenten props. Also, RJ recounts his favorite ever baptism while Sarah revises her opinion of frozen margaritas.
Click here to register for the NYC Conference. Click here to pre-register Dave's new book, The Big Relief. Click here to read Olga Khazan's article about "What Comedians Know About Staying Married". Click here to watch Conan O'Brien's acceptance speech for the Mark Twain Award. Click here to read "In Praise of Unruly Children in Church" by Phil Christman in The Christian Century. Click here to read "...Episode 275: Whereupon He Flipped Me the Bird
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk trend fatigue, athletic nepotism, and toxic preconditions. Also, RJ ponders South Korean babies while Sarah balks at a decision-making expert's decision.
Click here to register for the upcoming Mbird Conference in New York City (5/1-3) Click here to read Callie Holtermann's "Too Many Trends!" in The New York Times Click here to read about LeBron James and the Limits of Nepotism in The Atlantic Click here to read Oliver Burkeman's newsletter about "Toxic Preconditions" Click here to read "The Last Decision by the Worldâs Leading Thinker on Decisions" by Jason Zw...Episode 274: Donuts for Lent
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk gracious dermatology, religious resurgence, endemic narcissism, and alto harmonies. Also, Sarah sings some spirituals while RJ watches some cows.
Click here to read "Dr Pimple Popper Knows You Can't Look Away" by Eve Peyser Click here to read Ruth Graham's report on how Christianityâs Decline in U.S. Appears to Have Halted in the NY Times Click here to read Tony Robinson's post "Getting Over Ourselves" on Mbird Click here to read NBW's substack "Nobody Is Doing This Right (Except Me)" Click here to read "Singing Myself Back to Life" by...Episode 273: The Kingdom of God Comes to Death Row
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk relationship recessions, trustafarian guilt, providential nuns, and revitalized churches. Also, Sarah throws a Galentine's party for the ages.
Click here to order a copy of the Holy Spirit issue of The Mockingbird, or here to subscribe to the magazine Click here to register for our upcoming NYC Conference (5/1-3) Click here to read about America's 'Marriage Material' Shortage in The Atlantic Click here to read Elizabeth Callen's piece "Dying Alone?" on Mbird Click here to read New York Magazine's profile of "People With Parents With Money" Click here to read Lawrence...Episode 272: Running Toward the Ick
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk attention wars, inner critics, and middle school drama teachers. Also, RJ learns what HALT stands for, while Sarah gets her playdates mixed up.
Click here to learn more about (or order!) the Holy Spirit Issue of The Mockingbird Click here to watch_ The Turnaround_ Click here to read "You're Being Aliented From Your Attention" by Chris Hayes Click here to read Rhik Samadder's article about The Ick in The Guardian Click here for "People Lash Out When They're Sad" by Heather Havrilesky, via Ask Polly Click here to read The False...Episode 271: The Trapdoor of Grace
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk diminished partying, fearful motivations, radical saints, and the difference between spells and prayers. Also, Sarah shares what will happen when all the yards are finally mowed.
Click here for more details about our Spring Conference in NYC (5/1-3) Click here to pre-order Dave's new book, The Big Relief Click here to read Oshan Jarow's newsletter about mediation for Vox. Click here to read about Americans Need to Party More by Ellen Cushing in The Atlantic. Click here to read Elizabeth Kolbert's essay in The New Yorker, "Does One Emotion Rule All...Episode 270: Planes, Trains, and Miracles
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk peak reviewing, Martha Stewart's redemption, and Vietnamese recovery. Also, Spotify brings Dave full circle while Sarah uncovers a lost monologue from an 80s classic.
Click here to read "Whatever You Do, Don't Review This" by Eric Taub in the NY Times. Click here to read Belle Tindall's "What Spotify Wrapped Really Tells Us About Ourselves" on Seen & Unseen. Click here to read Elizabeth Bernstein's column on "The Micropolitics of Family Gift Giving" in the WSJ. Click here to read about "Martha Stewart and the Pursuit of Perfection" on Mbird, courtesy of...Episode 269: A Crisis of Gratitude
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk prepositional gratitude, backfiring fatalism, overgrown cemeteries, and lighthearted Advents. Also, RJ expounds on the benefits of bumblefat.
Click here to respond to the opening appeal and support Mockingbird this year-end!
Click here to read Joshua Rothman's essay in The New Yorker, "Why Is Gratitude So Difficult?" Click here to read Bryan Jarrell's piece for Mbird on "Gold Medal Gratitude". Click here to read Jeneen Interlandi's NY Times op-ed, "We Tire Very Quickly of Being Told Everything's on Fire." Click here to read Cara Buckley's piece about the Rewilding of...Episode 268: Loving the Hell Out
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk post-election uncertainty, grieving non-grandparents, digital self-worth, and the bondage of the will. Also, Dave shares an important new use for q-tips.
Click here to read Adam Grant's op-ed in the NY Times, "If Youâre Sure How the Next Four Years Will Play Out, I Promise: Youâre Wrong". Click here to read Dave's post-election round-up on Mbird. Click here to read Catherine Pearson's article on "The Unspoken Grief of Never Becoming a Grandparent". Click here to read Thea Lim's essay in The Walrus, "The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age"...Episode 267: Redemption Is Better Than Perfection
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk vibes, clutter, high school bullies, and fortunate falls. Also, Sarah contemplates Elvis, while RJ comes to terms with his uncoolness.
Click here to read Kyle Edward Williams piece on Vibes in the Hedgehog Review. Click here to read Matt Alt's essay on The Joy of Clutter for Aeon. Click here Simeon Ellin's piece for Buzzfeed about Tracking Down the Girls Who Bullied Her As a Kid. Click here to read Will McDavid's post on Mbird, "Bridesmaids Revisited." Click here to read Karen Swallow Prior's newsletter about George Herbert's shape-poem "Easter Wings."Episode 266: Reintroducing the Mockingcast
Recorded in front of an audience in Tyler, TX, Sarah and Dave do their best to explain the What and Why of The Mockingcast. Think of it as a rare peek behind the curtain as well as a perfect jumping on point for new listeners. Also, Sarah spills some serious tea about a presidential funeral.
Episode 265: Why Me Lord?
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Michelin stars, friends with money, autonomy traps, and Kristofferson's conversion. Also, Sarah and Dave gush about their favorite poet-priest-prophet-musician-TacoBellObsessive Andy Squyres.
Click here to listen to The StoryMakers Podcast. Click here to read The Economist's report on The Curse of the Michelin Star. Click here to read about backfiring wellness iniatives. Click here to read Kristin Wong's article in the The NY Times about financial disparties within friendships. Click here to read James Wood's essay "The Autonomy Trap" in Plough. Click here to read Todd Brewer's "Why Does God Talk So...Episode 264: Rock Bottom Has a Basement
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk school drop-off insanity, mindful underparenting, Silicon Valley rationalism, and anorexic recovery. Also, Sarah listens to a parking lot confession, while RJ fails to keep up. This episode is lovingly dedicated to the memory of Everett Lees.
Click here to give to the Lees Family Trust. Click here to read about How School Drop-Off Became a Nightmare by Kendra Hurley. Click here to read Darby Saxbe' column in The NY Times, "Parents Should Ignore Their Children More Often." Click here to read Larry Ellison's remarks about AI Cameras Ensuring Good Behavior. Click...Episode 263: Estrangements and Encylopedias
In their first episode back, RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk peak loneliness, familial estrangement, and forgiven shoplifters. Also, our new logo/icon debuts, and a pair of Condons learn to surf.
Click here for more information about our upcoming event in Tyler, TX (Sept 27&28) Click here to read "Why Is the Loneliness Epidemic So Hard to Cure?" in the NY Times Magazine Click here to order a copy of the Home Issue of The Mockingbird Magazine Click here to read "Why So Many People Are Going âNo Contactâ with Their Parents" by Anna Russell in The New Yorker Clic...Bonus Episode: "Faith" from The Brothers Zahl
For Mockingcasters looking for something to listen to while the gang is on hiatus this summer, look no further! We hope you enjoy the first episode of the new season of Mbird's The Brothers Zahl podcast, "Faith".
Click here to subscribe or listen to more episodes on Spotify Click here to subscribe or listen to more episodes on Apple Click here to visit the The Brothers Zahl landing page on Fireside Click here to peruse the recommendations and references included in the episode