CFO 4.0 Podcast

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By: Hannah Munro

Welcome to CFO 4.0, where we explore the dynamic landscape of Financial Leadership in the era of Technology 4.0. I'm your host, Hannah Munro, Managing Director of itas, a pioneering Financial Transformation consultancy. In this podcast series, we unravel the intricate connection between cutting-edge technologies and the financial domain. It's more than just adopting tools; it's about cultivating the skills necessary to navigate and spearhead the transformative journey within Finance.  CFO 4.0 embodies the archetype of the Financial Leader in the future — a fusion of strategic visionaries and tech-savvy innovators. As the CFO role swiftly evolves from a mere cost controller to a strat...

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OKRs Explained: How to Turn Strategy into Action with Evan Campbell | CFO 4.0 Podcast 292
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OKRs Explained: How to Turn Strategy into Action with Evan Campbell | CFO 4.0 Podcast 292


Hannah Munro is joined by returning guest Evan Campbell, author of Adapt to Win, to explore how OKRs can help organisations turn strategy into action and connect long-term objectives with the work teams are doing every day.


Evan explains how OKRs differ from KPIs, why effective strategy deployment depends on focus and alignment, and how organisations can avoid the common mistakes that turn OKRs into another performance management exercise.


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291. Technology Doesn't Transform Organisations. People Do with Ilana Esterrich
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10/27/2026

This week on CFO 4.0 returning guest Ilana Esterrich joins Hannah Munro to challenge traditional thinking around ROI and introduce a more meaningful measure of success: return on change. Together, they explore why adoption, attention and organisational behaviour play a crucial role in whether transformation delivers lasting value.


In this episode, you'll learn:

Why traditional ROI calculations often fail to tell the full story.What "return on change" means and why leaders should measure it alongside ROI. How attention audits can uncover low-value work and hidden inefficiencies.The importance of deciding what work will...


290. CFO Revisited | The Unconventional CFO with Jeremy Foster
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10/13/2026

In this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro talks with Jeremy Foster, now CFO at Kasasa and formerly CFO of Talroo, to explore why some of the most effective finance leaders don't fit the traditional CFO mould.

Jeremy shares his unconventional journey to the CFO seat and explains how stepping beyond conventional finance thinking can help organisations move faster, make better decisions, and support sustainable growth.


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Jeremy's unconventional path to becoming a CFOWhy modern CFOs need to think beyond traditional financeBuilding agile, high-performing finance teamsApproaches to...


289. CFO 4.0 Revisited | Top Tips on Finding and Getting your Perfect FD/CFO Role with Andrew MacAskill
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09/29/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0 Revisited, Hannah Munro is joined by Andrew MacAskill, Founder of Executive Career Jump and a finance professional dedicated to helping senior leaders accelerate their careers. Together, they explore what organisations are really looking for in CFOs, how finance professionals can position themselves for new opportunities, and the practical steps finance leaders can take to future-proof their careers.


In this episode, you'll discover:

What organisations look for when hiring CFOs and finance leadersHow to identify the right company and role for your skills, ambitions, and valuesWays to stand out...


288. Strategic Investment: How CFOs Can Turn Vision into Results with Evan Campbell
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09/22/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0, Hannah Munro speaks with Evan Campbell, author of Adapt to Win, about the often-overlooked gap between strategy and execution. From allocating resources effectively to prioritising the right initiatives and measuring success, Evan shares practical insights for finance leaders looking to maximise returns on strategic investments. The discussion explores how CFOs can create alignment across the business, improve decision-making, and drive lasting competitive advantage.


Key topics include:

Connecting strategy to investment decisionsPortfolio management techniques for modern finance teamsAvoiding common pitfalls in strategic executionCreating accountability across the organisationMaking better decisions...


287. The Fractional CFO Files: The Trusted Advisor with Adrian Message
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09/15/2026

In this episode of The Fractional CFO Files, Hannah Munro is joined by Adrian Message from The CFO Centre to explore what truly defines a successful fractional CFO. Drawing on years of experience supporting businesses through growth, change and uncertainty, Adrian shares why trust, adaptability and strong relationships often matter more than technical expertise alone.


In this episode, you'll learn:


How fractional CFOs adapt their approach to meet the unique needs of each business and build trusted relationships with founders and leadership teams.Why emotional intelligence, honesty and difficult conversations...


286. The New CFO: What Does It Really Take to Step Up Into the CFO Role? with Nicola Horton
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09/08/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0, host Hannah Munro is joined by Nicola Horton, Principal at the CFO Centre, to explore what it really takes to step up into the CFO seat and thrive once you're there

Nicola draws on her own journey from financial controller to CFO, including leading a business turnaround in her first CFO role, as well as nine years spent coaching finance leaders through that same transition - sharing practical lessons on everything from building the right team to nurturing bank relationships that take years to earn trust.


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285. CFO 4.0 Revisited: The essential mindsets you need to be successful in your new CFO role with Ash Noah
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09/01/2026

This week we're revisiting Hannah Munro's conversation with Ash Noah, VP & Managing Director of Learning, Education and Development at AICPA & CIMA, on the mindset shifts CFOs need to close the gap between what finance delivers and what the business actually needs.


This episode covers:


Why finance is hitting 90% on governance but only 40% on business guidance — and how to close that gapBuilding a value creation mindset by understanding your business model, not just costs and profitsWhy an analytics mindset and a "digital first" approach are now essential, not optionalHow agile methodology an...


284. Finding your Rodman: The quiet specialists holding your company together with Jack McCullough
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08/25/2026

Jack McCullough, President of the CFO Leadership Council, is back on CFO 4.0 to sit with Hannah to talk about the idea that every organisation has quiet specialists - rarely high on the org chart, rarely natural leaders who are so irreplaceable that losing them would do more damage than losing a member of the C-suite.

Jack introduces his new book "The Rodman Paradox". Borrowing his title from NBA legend Dennis Rodman (a specialist who never scored much but became, by some measures, the greatest winner in basketball history)


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283.The Fractional CFO Files: How CFOs get Sales, Ops & Products on the same page with Roger Castle
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08/18/2026

Roger Castle is a fractional Finance Director and CFO with The CFO Centre. In this episode, Roger joins Hannah to unpack what it really takes to lead through change, from persuading a fast-growing team to accept its first-ever cost cuts, to helping SME owners turn vague ambitions into concrete, achievable growth plans. Roger shares the practical realities of working as a fractional CFO across multiple clients at once, and the mindset shift required to move from corporate scale to hands-on SME finance.

 

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Leading a workforce through its fi...


282. CFO Revisited: Start-up CFO to COO - Funding, Scaling and Recruiting in a start-up world with Sabrina Castiglione
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08/11/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0 Revisited, we're looking back at Hannah Munro's conversation with Sabrina Castiglione at the time, Chief Operating Officer at Pento, and now CFO at Omnea.

Sabrina's path into finance leadership is anything but conventional. She studied chemistry at university, spent years in financial services, then made the leap into startups as CFO at Tassie before stepping into the COO seat at Pento.


In this session, Hannah and Sabrina cover:


How a business's needs shift as it moves from Seed to Series A and beyondWhat...


281. CFO Stories | The UK's Youngest CFO on Building Trust, Not Just Teams with Sophia Levell FCCA
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08/04/2026

In this episode of CFO Stories, Hannah is joined by Sophia Levell FCCA, CFO of Access Fertility and one of the youngest CFOs in the UK. Sophia shares the fast-tracked path that got her there and what she's learned since.


In this episode, we cover:

Why she dropped out of college to start her ACCA journey earlyThe mentor-shaped transition from finance operator to strategic CFOHiring for complementary skills, not personality Building trust with the C-suite through constant, unfiltered communicationSophia's advice for anyone stepping into their first CFO role


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280. CFOs CFO | How to Delegate Like a CFO: Strengths, Ownership & Fractional Support with Sara Daw
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07/28/2026

In this episode of the CFO 4.0 Podcast, host Hannah Munro is joined by returning guest Sara Daw, CEO of The CFO Centre Group, to explore how CFOs can build the right team around them from smart delegation to bringing in a fractional "CFO's CFO" for M&A, systems work, or steady-ship support.


In this episode:


Why delegation should focus on outcomes, not tasksHow to build a team that plays to individual strengthsWhat to do when a delegated task goes wrongThe emerging "CFO's CFO" model and when to use itGround rules...


279. How AI, Demographics and Change Are Reshaping Finance Careers with Clive Webb
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07/21/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0, Hannah Munro is joined by Clive Webb, Head of Business Management at ACCA, to discuss ACCA's report Career Paths Reimagined exploring how careers in finance are being reshaped by AI, demographics, and shifting expectations of work, and what CFOs need to do now to prepare their teams for the future.


In this episode, they cover:

The eight key drivers reshaping careers in accountancy and financeWhy the UK's ageing population and declining birth rate mean we'll all need to work longerHow AI and automation are shifting organisations from a "...


278. CFO 4.0 Revisited | Driving Change in Finance: Unleashing the Power of Transformational Leadership with Ilana Esterrich
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07/14/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0 Revisited, we're looking back at episode 134, where Hannah Munro was joined by Ilana Esterrich, then CFO at Planned Parenthood, now CFO & Strategic Advisor for a rich conversation on sustainable transformational leadership.

Ilana shares her wealth of knowledge and experience in driving successful organisational transformations, highlighting the critical role change management plays in achieving lasting results.


In this episode, we cover:


The significance of people skills in driving successful changeHow to communicate the "why" effectively and align it with individual motivationsCreating a sense of...


277. First 100 Days as a CFO: The Career Strategies Every New CFO Needs to Know with John Lees
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07/07/2026

In this episode of CFO 4.0, Hannah Monro sits down with John Lees career strategist, coach, and author to unpack the real work behind a successful CFO transition.


John shares why your first 100 days actually begin long before day one, how to balance appearing confident with genuine curiosity, and the art of "checking in" with peers, stakeholders, and even the person on the security desk. He also digs into the people dynamics that make or break a new role: spotting enablers, navigating blockers, understanding personality at the top, and building trust across the C-suite fast.<...


276. The Hidden Tax: How Emotion Shapes Your Financial Decisions with Lesley Thomas
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06/30/2026

Financial decisions are rarely as rational as we think. In this episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Lesley Thomas, Founder of the Money Confidence Academy, to explore the hidden psychology driving the choices CFOs and finance leaders make every day.


In this episode, we cover:


Why financial decisions are driven more by emotion than data The role your childhood relationship with money plays in your leadership style todayHow to separate personal identity from the decisions your role demands you makeWhy avoiding difficult conversations creates a "hidden tax" on your organisation's...


275. Why culture beats technology in transformation with Tomas Hollingsworth
06/23/2026

CFO 4.0 is back! In this unmissable relaunch episode, Hannah Munro sits down with Tomas Hollington, Director of Technology at BW Workplace Experts, to pull back the curtain on what it really takes to lead change in a fast-growing, technology-driven business — and trust us, it's not what you'd expect.


What’s covered in this episode

 Why culture and trust are the real foundations of successful change  How to manage the pace of innovation without overwhelming the business  Practical ways to prioritise ideas and avoid “change for the sake of change”  The role of leadership programmes in d...


274. CFO 4.0 Revisited | CFO Stories: How to become a data-driven CFO with Glenn Hopper
06/16/2026

When we first released this conversation, it was our 100th episode, a milestone that felt worth marking with something special. Now, 174 episodes later, it's clear why this one deserved a revisit.


Host Hannah Munro is joined by Glenn Hopper, Author of Deep Finance and now Managing Director at VAi Consulting for a discussion that's only grown more relevant with time. With over 15 years of experience in the CFO seat, Glenn brings a grounded, practical perspective on what it really means to build a data-driven finance function, whether you're leading a startup or a global...


273. CFO 4.0 Revisited | CFO Stories: A CFO's Guide to Navigating Risk with Isaac Strulowitz
06/09/2026

This week on the CFO 4.0 Revisited series, host Hannah Munro is joined by Isaac Strulowitz, Alternative Investments CFO, who offers his unique perspective on risk management, providing valuable insights into how CFOs can protect their firms against unforeseen challenges, a conversation that remains as timely and essential as ever.


In this episode, we cover:


Isaac's first-hand account of navigating the SVB collapse and the proactive steps his team took to protect investor capital.Risk management strategies that have proven effective, such as creating redundancies, maintaining a robust disaster recovery plan...


272. CFO 4.0 Revisited: From Start-up to Scaleup, a CFO's Guide to Navigating Growth with Sylvia Ionita
06/02/2026

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Originally released as episode 144 of the CFO 4.0 Podcast, this episode is part of our CFO 4.0 Revisited series — bringing back some of our most valuable conversations for a new listen.

Hannah Munro is joined by Sylvia Ionita, Finance Executive at LFG Solutions LLC, who at the time of recording was CFO at waterdrop. With hands-on experience scaling start-ups, Sylvia brings sharp, practical wisdom on what it really takes to grow a business from the ground up — the highs, the hard lessons, and everything in between.

In this episode, we cover:

Ho...


271. CFO 4.0 Revisited: The Future of Finance: Cultivating Skills & Adapting to Change with Oliver Deacon
05/26/2026

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For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Oliver Deacon, Executive Coach and Founder of Oliver Deacon Coaching, to explore what the future of finance leadership really looks like over the next five years.

As finance teams continue to face rapid technological change, increasing pressure to deliver insight, and evolving expectations from the wider business, technical expertise alone is no longer enough. Oliver shares why the most successful finance leaders of the future will be those who combine commercial thinking, emotional intelligence, adaptability, and strong leadership skills alongside technical...


270. CFO 4.0 Revisited: The Balancing Act: Risks, Ethics, and the Lessons Learnt from Failing with Shaun Hayes
05/19/2026

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For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Shaun Hayes, author of The Gray Choice, to explore the realities of leadership, resilience, and decision-making in high-pressure environments. 

What’s covered in this episode

 Why taking calculated risks is essential for long-term success  Lessons learned from major setbacks and how to recover stronger  The importance of building a trusted circle of advisors and mentors  Why happiness and fulfilment do not always come from constant growth  The role discipline and standards play in financial leadership  Insights from Shaun’s book The Gray Choice...


269. CFO 4.0 Revisited: Accelerating your impact as a CFO with coaching with Catherine Clark
04/28/2026

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For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Catherine Clark, Lead CFO Mentor at GrowCFO and Director of Cristallum Limited, for a grounded and practical conversation on the power of mentoring in modern finance leadership.

As the role of the CFO continues to evolve beyond technical expertise, the need for strong communication, self-awareness, and leadership capability has never been greater. Catherine draws on her extensive experience to explore how mentoring provides finance leaders with something often missing in their day-to-day roles, a trusted space to step back, reflect, and...


268. CFO 4.0 Revisited: Integration, automation and finding your niche with Cécile Parker
04/21/2026

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For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Cécile Parker, Group CFO at Vital Energi Utilities, to explore how finance leaders can play a far more integrated and influential role across the business.

Cécile shares her journey to CFO and offers a clear view on how the function must evolve. This is not about finance sitting on the sidelines. It is about stepping forward, embedding into operations, and driving meaningful change across people, processes and sustainability.

 What’s covered in this episode

 Why fi...


267. CFO 4.0 Revisited: How to make your next digital transformation project a success with Mark Lockton-Goddard
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04/14/2026

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In this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Mark Lockton‑Goddard, now Founder & CEO at embracent, to explore what successful digital transformation really looks like for finance teams.

With over 25 years’ experience across global organisations, Mark shares practical insight into how CFOs can approach transformation decisions, gain buy‑in from their teams, and avoid common pitfalls when introducing new technology and processes.

Relaunched ahead of the new financial year, this episode is a timely listen for finance leaders reviewing how prepared their finance functi...


266. CFO 4.0 Revisited: How technology can enable hybrid working for finance teams with Paul Lee
04/07/2026

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For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Paul Lee, Partner at Deloitte UK, to explore one of the most debated shifts in modern working life – the move to hybrid.

Drawing on his experience at Deloitte, Paul challenges the idea that there is a single “right” answer. Instead, he highlights the importance of asking better questions – around productivity, collaboration, employee expectations, and long-term business impact.

What’s covered in this episode

Working from home, hybrid, and returning to the office – how to assess the right approa...


265. CFO 4.0 Revisited: Navigating Financial Planning in a Dynamic Business Environment with James Owen
03/31/2026

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 For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by James Owen, Global CFO of the Profiles Division at Kantar, to explore how modern finance leaders are reshaping planning, forecasting, and decision-making in an increasingly data-driven world. 

What’s covered in this episode

Why market data is essential for meaningful performance benchmarkingHow to improve communication and understanding of financial insights across the businessThe role of Integrated Business Planning in driving better forecasts and decisionsWhy data science is becoming a core capability within finance teamsHow to assess finance talent beyond technical skil...


264. CFO 4.0 Revisited: A CFOs Guide to Writing Annual Reports That Your Investors Actually want to Read with Claire Bodanis
03/24/2026

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For this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by Claire Bodanis, Founder and Director of Falcon Windsor and one of the UK’s leading authorities on corporate reporting. Claire shares a practical and honest view of what it really takes to produce an annual report that cuts through the noise. 

What’s covered in this episode

• The biggest challenges organisations face when producing the annual report today
 • How to create a report that is engaging, clear and valuable to investors
 • Balancing regulatory requirements with meaningful co...


263. CFO 4.0 Revisited: Connecting the dots between data and insights through storytelling in finance with Brent Dykes
03/17/2026

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In this episode of CFO 4.0 Revisited, Hannah Munro reconnects with Brent Dykes, Founder and Chief Data Storyteller at AnalyticsHero, to explore one of the most important skills modern finance leaders must master – turning data into meaningful stories that drive action.

In this episode, we explore

What a Chief Data Storyteller actually doesBrent’s journey into analytics and the creation of AnalyticsHeroWhy data storytelling is becoming essential for finance leadersPractical frameworks for communicating insight across finance teamsHow to turn financial data into compelling, decision-driving storiesBrent’s top tips f...


262. CFO 4.0 Revisited: How Funding is Like Ice Cream with Martin Spiller
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03/10/2026

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In this CFO 4.0 Revisited episode, Hannah Munro is joined by experienced finance leader Martin Spiller to explore what funders are really looking for in a CFO.

From common funding mistakes to the differences between start-up and scale-up investment, Martin shares practical insight on securing funding, choosing the right partners and positioning your business for sustainable growth.

What funders look for in a CFOCommon mistakes when applying for fundingStart-up vs scale-up funding expectationsSeed, Series A and Series B funding explainedHow to find the right funding partnerTips for improving your chances of...


261. CFO 4.0 Revisited: Making the shift from CFO to Board with Fiona Hathorn, CEO of Women on Boards UK
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03/03/2026

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To mark the return of CFO 4.0 Revisited and celebrate International Women’s Week, we’re bringing back a powerful conversation that is just as relevant today as when it first aired. In Episode 77, Hannah Munro sits down with Fiona Hathorn, CEO of Women on Boards UK, to explore what it truly takes to step into the boardroom and succeed.

Board roles are often discussed but rarely explained in practical terms. Fiona cuts through the noise, sharing clear guidance on balancing cultural fit with constructive challenge, assessing whether a board opportunity is righ...


260. Financial Transformation Live: New Years Resolutions for Finance
02/03/2026

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In this special Financial Transformation Live episode, Hannah Munro sets out a clear, practical agenda for finance leaders who want 2026 to be the year transformation actually happens.

This session deliberately moves away from technology hype and focuses on the fundamentals that enable progress. Hannah makes the case that 2026 must be a people and process year, not a rushed race to automate. As the pace of change accelerates and AI becomes part of everyday working life, finance teams need the capacity, skills and foundations to respond, rather than...


259.CFO 4.0 Revisited: Soft Skills and the importance they have in Finance Teams with Howard Tunnicliffe
01/27/2026

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In this third episode of the CFO 4.0 Revisited series, Hannah Munro is joined by Howard Tunnicliffe, now FP&A Director at Busuu, to revisit a conversation that remains highly relevant for modern finance leaders.

Originally recorded when Howard was Head of Finance Subscriptions at The Economist, this episode tackles a topic that still separates good finance teams from great ones: soft skills. As finance continues to move beyond pure technical delivery, Howard shares practical insight into why behaviours, communication and judgement matter just as much as numbers.

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258. Pricing Without Guesswork: Using Behavioural Economics to Drive Better Decisions with Etinosa Agbonlahor
01/20/2026

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 In this episode of CFO 4.0, Hannah Munro is joined by Etinosa Agbonlahor, CEO of Decision Alpha, to break down why pricing causes so much anxiety and how finance leaders can take control of it in a structured, evidence-based way.

Together, they explore how behavioural economics, customer insight, and disciplined iteration can turn pricing from a reactive afterthought into a strategic advantage.

In this episode, they cover

Why pricing is the keystone of the business and what goes wrong when it is ignoredThe warning signs that your p...


257. The Readiness Challenge: What Project Readiness really looks like with Hannah Munro and Neil Lynchehaun
01/13/2026

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As a follow-up to their Financial Transformation Live discussions, Hannah Munro is joined by Neil Lynchehaun, Transformation and Delivery Manager at itas, to launch The Readiness Challenge series.

In part one, they take an honest look at what project readiness really means and why so many finance transformations struggle before they even begin. Drawing on real delivery experience, this episode focuses on the most common and underestimated blocker to success team capacity and capability.

 This episode covers: 

What project readiness really means before starting a...


256. 2025 Highlights: Transforming Finance Conversations with Today's Finance Leaders
01/06/2026

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In this special highlights episode of CFO 4.0, host Hannah Munro reflects on the most impactful conversations of 2025, bringing together lessons from CFOs, transformation leaders, and futurists. Drawing on insights from across the year, this episode explores what finance leaders have really learned as the role continues to evolve under pressure from growth, technology, and rising expectations.

In this episode, we reflect on

Why finance transformation fails when it is treated as a separate role rather than a day-to-day mindsetHow CFOs are learning to make faster, better...


255. PE Backed: How to survive and succeed as a CFO in Private Equity with Omar Choucair
12/16/2025

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In this episode, Hannah Munro sits down with Omar Choucair, CFO at Trintech, for a forthright look at life inside private equity. Omar offers a clear view of what the role truly demands and why it isn’t for the faint hearted. He discusses the expanded remit of today’s CFO, the operational intensity of PE-backed firms and the importance of pace, people and process when value creation is the end goal.

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 The sharp contrasts between public company and private equity expectationsWhat a PE-ready finance team...


254. First 100 Days as a CFO: From Diagnosis to Direction with Nicolas Raynaud FCCA
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12/09/2025

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In this episode of the CFO 4.0 Podcast, recorded in partnership with ACCA, Hannah Munro is joined by Nicolas Raynaud FCCA, CFO at the Science Museum Group. Nicolas shares a frank and practical view of what it really takes to settle into a new CFO role and why those early months demand clarity, curiosity and steady judgement.

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 Why the first 100 days start with understanding the organisation you’re joining, not diving into delivery How to diagnose whether you’re entering a growth phase, a turnar...


253. Data first, People first: The making of a modern finance function with Matthew Robinson
12/02/2025

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In this in-person conversation, Hannah Munro sits down with Matthew Robinson, Financial Controller at Zebra Pens, to explore the realities of running and transforming finance inside a small but ambitious business. 

This episode covers

Why small-business finance needs pragmatism, balance and the courage to let go of total control How Matt rebuilt finance around risk-based thinking, strong foundations and the ability to switch off at the end of the day The hard lessons of a difficult first implementation How Zebra Pens is moving towards 21st-century operations with integrated syst...