The Next Pats Podcast - A Patriots Podcast

The Patriots might be off for the start of summer, but 'Next Pats' is still going strong! Phil Perry breaks down his rankings for the 25 MOST IMPORTANT Patriots heading into the 2026 season before welcoming in Texas A&M offensive line coach Adam Cushing to break down rookie tackle Dametrious Crownover.

0:00- Phil ranks his 25 most important Patriots for the 2026 season

55:55- Phil welcomes in Texas A&M offensive line coach Adam Cushing to discuss Patriots rookie offensive lineman Dametrious Crownover

58:45- Cushing shares why Crownover's mental toughness makes him a late-round 'st...

Phil Perry opens up the notebook and shares his five major takeaways from the Patriots’ three minicamp practices to close out the offseason program ahead of training camp next month.

0:00- Takeaway #1: Drake Maye looks ready to take a Year 3 leap at quarterback

13:20- Takeaway #2: The bromance is forming between Drake Maye and A.J. Brown

20:25- Takeaway #3: No competitive reps from Christian Gonzalez during minicamp

30:00- Takeaway #4: Plans are taking shape along the offensive line

34:40- Takeaway #5: The two positions of need for the team ahead of t...

Jeff McLane of the The Philadelphia Inquirer joins Phil Perry to break down what A.J. Brown could bring to New England, whether the Patriots gave up too much to get him and how his partnership with Drake Maye might develop. Plus, Phil explains how Brown could fit into the Patriots’ offense and answers your mailbag questions.

1:00 - Jeff McLane shares insight into what Brown will bring and what the compensation discussions might have looked like

16:00 - Did the Patriots overpay for A.J. Brown?

29:00 - How will Josh McDaniels use A.J. Br...

Phil Perry welcomes in Mike Giardi to break down this week’s Patriots OTA’s, what we should take from the absence of Christian Gonzalez and Kayshon Boutte, and whether the A.J. Brown trade is the done-deal we thought it was. Then, the guys debate Phil’s initial 53-man roster ahead of minicamp.

00:00- Giardi shares his biggest takeaways from OTA’s this week

6:30- What to make of Christian Gonzalez’s continued absence

16:00- The latest reports surrounding A.J. Brown

21:00- How did Drake Maye look at OTA’s?<...

Join Phil Perry as he breaks down all 32 starting quarterbacks ahead of the 2026 season. Who are this years biggest risers and fallers? Also, Phil digs into his Mailbag, and Kevin Byard explains how he gets so many interceptions

06:00 - The A-List QBs

17:30 - The Alien Tier QBs

24:30 - The Imperfect, but We're glad to have you! QBs

28:50 - Don't Love it, But we have hope ! QB's

34:10 - You're on the clock! QBs

39:20 - Have to see it QBs

42:10 - Makes you nervous QBs

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In this episode, we get to know the Patriots' newest LB, the 55th overall pick in the 2026 NFL Draft, Gabe Jacas. Phil Perry talks with Illinois HC Bret Bielema about Jacas’ “desire to be great,” then catches up with former Patriot James White—who spent time coaching at Illinois—about why Mike Vrabel and the Patriots will love Jacas' fit in this defense.

00:00 Getting to know Patriots LB Gabe Jacas

03:00 Illinois HC Bret Bielema on Jacas’ “desire to be great”

07:00 James White calls Jacas an “old school, rare breed of football player”

10:30 Which former...

Is Eli Raridon the most fascinating draft pick by the Patriots this year? Phil Perry talks with Notre Dame OC/TE Coach Mike Denbrock to get a detailed scouting report on the 95th pick in the 2026 NFL Draft. Later, he discusses how the Patriots could use Raridon and possibly use the Rams’ 13-personnel blueprint. 

00:00 Is Eli Raridon the most fascinating draft pick?

03:15 Notre Dame’s Mike Denbrock on Raridon’s upside

04:00 Why a great TE is a rookie QB's best friend

08:00 NFL player comparisons for Raridon

11:00 How Raridon fits the Pat...

Tom Curran, Phil Perry, and Albert Breer react to the Patriots’ moves on Day 2 of the NFL Draft, including the decision to trade up for Gabe Jacas, selecting tight end Eli Raridon in the third round and what Day 3 could look like without Mike Vrabel.

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Phil Perry, Tom Curran, Albert Breer, and Tom Giles react to the Patriots trading up to draft OT Caleb Lomu out of Utah. They break down what they like about the move, what Lomu brings to the team and what it could mean for Will Campbell’s future. Plus, they cover the latest on Mike Vrabel and what the next two days could hold for New England.

00:00 Reaction to drafting Caleb Lomu

08:00 The latest with Mike Vrabel

12:15 Eagles clearly moving on from AJ Brown?

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Albert Breer joins Phil Perry to break down their final predictions for what the New England Patriots could do in the NFL Draft. They discuss the possibility of the Patriots trading out of the first round, which offensive tackles could be available early and some off-the-radar options. Plus, Phil talks about Mike Vrabel addressing the Dianna Russini photos. 

0:00 - Discussing Mike Vrabel’s comments on Dianna Russini photos 

9:00 - What are the odds the Patriots don’t pick on Day 1 of the draft? 

13:00 - Which tackle is most likely to be available for the Pat...

Phil Perry is joined by Todd McShay of The Ringer to break down the Patriots’ draft outlook, including whether they can land multiple starters, a potential first-round run on offensive tackles and Phil’s top RB fits for New England.

00:00 -Can the Patriots find a few starters in this year’s draft?
09:00  Why there could be a first-round push for offensive tackles
22:00  Breaking down the best RB fits for the Patriots

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Phil Perry is joined by Emory Hunt of CBS Sports to break down his 2026 Draft Guide and identify the best late-round value picks for the New England Patriots. Plus, Phil dives into the mailbag to answer your latest questions.

00:00 YouTube Live: Crowd-sourced Mock Draft (April 15, 2PM)

03:30 Emory Hunt on his 2026 draft guide
08:30 Day 3 sleepers: Edge rushers for the Patriots
13:45 Under-the-radar WRs being slept on
17:50 Adding depth at LB in the later rounds
24:30 Next Pats mailbag 

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Phil Perry talks with Fran Duffy to break down this year's "Tier Busters" in the upcoming draft. They break down the Patriots specific needs, and who may be available at their current draft positions. Also, Phil Perry breaks down the looming potential trade of A.J. Brown, and how he may affect that Pats plans in this year's draft.

00:00 Setting the table / Coaches Meetings wrap-up

11:15  Welcome Fran Duffy

16:38 Busting Draft Tiers: Edge Rushers

22:45 Busting Draft Tiers: Tackles

29:50 Busting Draft Tiers: Tight Ends

34:10 Busting Draft Tiers: Wide Receivers 

Phil Perry talks with Mike Renner to discuss three scenarios for the Patriots first three picks in the NFL Draft. What’s the best case scenario for the Patriots? WR with the first pick? Or should the address the Edge or Tackle position first? 

00:00 Setting the table for the pod

08:30 Renner on the value of the Patriots first-round pick

10:30 Scenario 1: Patriots take WR with first pick

20:00 Scenario 2: Patriots take Tackle 

27:30 Scenario 3: Patriots take Edge defender 

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Phil Perry catches you up on the latest Patriots news and breaks down his selection for New England at No. 31 in his most recent Mock Draft 3.0. Later, he answers your mailbag questions and talks with Trevor Sikkema about finding potential Stefon Diggs replacements in the NFL Draft.

00:00 Catching up on the latest Patriots news

03:00 How the Jaylen Waddle trade impacts A.J. Brown’s price

13:00 Phil Perry’s NFL Mock Draft 3.0

26:30 Mailbag questions

55:30 Trevor Sikkema on finding Diggs replacements in the draft

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Phil Perry explains why moving on from Diggs is the right move for the Patriots and discusses some possible WR options for the team next season. Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson join to provide a step-by-step offseason plan for the Patriots.

00:00 Why moving on from Diggs is the right move 

06:00 Ranking the WR options for the Patriots 

13:00 Steve Palazzolo on building around Drake Maye 

20:00 This WR would be a GREAT fit at no. 31 

24:00 Sam Monson’s offseason plan for the Patriots

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Phil Perry sits down with JP Finlay to break down what went wrong for the Commanders in 2025 and what lessons the Patriots can take from Washington’s recent offseason strategy. Later, Phil breaks down some winners and losers from the NFL Combine. 

00:00 How the Commanders serve as a cautionary tale for the Pats

04:30 Will upcoming contracts for Maye and Gonzalez impact spending?

06:00 JP Finlay on what the Patriots can learn from Washington’s approach   

12:00 Is signing Maxx Crosby a bad idea for the Patriots?

16:30 Winners and losers from the...

Could the Patriots actually pull off a blockbuster move for A.J. Brown? Phil Perry sits down with NBC Sports Philadelphia’s Dave Zangaro to break down the reality of the situation. They dissect the trade rumors, analyze the steep price tag, and discuss why the Eagles aren't hitting the panic button just yet.

00:00 Eagles acknowledge they will take calls on A.J. Brown

9:30 Mike Vrabel on his relationship with Brown

11:00 Dave Zangaro on whether A.J. Brown gets dealt this offseason

14:00 What’s the cost for A.J. Brown?

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Phil Perry reports the latest Patriots news and rumors from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. What did we learn about the Patriots' offseason needs from Eliot Wolf? Later, The Athletic's Dane Brugler breaks down the best "Vrabel guys" in this draft class.

00:00 The latest from the NFL Combine

1:30 Signs pointing to Patriots adding on defense this offseason 

4:00 Pass-rush options for the Patriots

8:30 Do the Patriots NEED a #1 WR?

12:00 Dane Brugler on the depth of the draft 

15:00 Finding Vrabel guys in the draft 

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Phil Perry breaks down his latest mock draft where he has the Patriot adding ‘real juice at receiver for Drake Maye.’ Later, he talks with Connor Rogers and Daniel Jeremiah to preview the upcoming NFL combine. 

0:00 Phil Perry’s most recent mock draft

24:30 Connor Rogers best options for Patriots at 31 

27:00 Key players to watch at the Combine

32:00 The upside of KC Concepcion

42:00 Daniel Jeremiah on why he mocks Zion Young to Patriots

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The pain from the Patriots Super Bowl loss is there, but Phil Perry brings you a reason to smile....it’s NEXT PATS season. Phil does a deep dive on his five-point plan for the Patriots to UPGRADE their roster this offseason. 

00:00 Vrabel on how the Super Bowl can be a valuable learning experience

5:00 What kind of people are the Patriots looking for?

12:00 Five-point plan for the Patriots offseason

25:00 Next Pats mailbag

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Super Bowl week is in full swing. Phil Perry is on the ground in Santa Clara, previewing the Patriots-Seahawks matchup and which quarterback will lead their team to a Super Bowl win. Plus, Phil sits down with The Athletic’s Dianna Russini and SumerSports’ Mike Mayock to discuss the Patriots’ successful offseason, the franchise's future and the outlook for Drake Maye and Sam Darnold

00:00 - Which QB will drive their team to a Super Bowl win? 

09:00 - Dianna Russini on Maxx Crosby, the Patriots' future and people doubting the team 

16:00 - Mike Mayo...

Who’s better to talk to about the upcoming BATTLE in the trenches than former Patriots OL coach Dante Scarnecchia? Phil Perry talks to him about the keys to the matchup, and then breaks down the Seattle defense and answers your mailbag questions.

00:00 The latest on Drake Maye’s shoulder

2:30 Dante Scarnecchia reacts to Pats making the Super Bowl

4:00 Biggest challenge for coaching staff

18:00 Who’s Next?!: The Seahawks defense

23:00 Next Pats mailbag

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The Patriots are one win away from punching their ticket to the Super Bowl. What are the biggest keys to getting a win in Denver? Phil Perry talks with former Patriot Rob Ninkovich to get his breakdown of the AFC Championship. 

00:00 Taking care of the football is a KEY on Sunday 

4:00 Rob Ninkovich says don’t sleep on the backup 

9:00 Ninkovich on playing for Sean Payton 

14:30 What areas can Will Campbell improve on for Sunday? 

19:30 Who’s next and mailbag questions 

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Joe Buck will be on the call this Sunday when the Patriots face off against the Texans. Phil Perry catches up with Joe to discuss what he saw last week while calling the Texans game and gets his opinion on which legendary QB he compares Drake Maye to. Later, Phil previews the CFB Championship game and answers your mailbag questions.

00:00 Patriots host Texans on Sunday

1:30 Joe Buck on his relationship with New England sports fans

6:00 Buck compares Maye to an all-time great

9:00 Buck’s Patriots-Texans preview

16:30 Players to keep an...

The Patriots are set to face the Chargers this Sunday night. Phil Perry breaks down why the Patriots’ run game will be KEY to getting a win. Later, Phil talks with Tony Dungy to get his thoughts on the job Mike Vrabel has done in New England and to preview the Sunday Night Football matchup.

0:00 Why the Patriots’ run game will be key vs Chargers

8:00 Tony Dungy credits Vrabel for changing culture in New England
11:00 Will other teams look for defensive coaches?
15:30 Tony Dungy: Patience will be the key for Drake Maye against Char...

The odds have shifted in Drake Maye’s favor to win the NFL MVP over Matthew Stafford. Phil Perry breaks down the numbers and chats with Mike Sando from The Athletic to get his take on the criteria voters prioritize when deciding the award. Later, Phil highlights some potential Patriots from the NCAA and answers your mailbag questions.

00:00 What the stats say about the MVP race

7:30 Mike Sando weighs in on MVP debate

8:30 What do voters look for when selecting an MVP?

19:00 Who’s Next?! And mailbag questions

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Phil Perry talks with Brian Hoyer to get his thoughts and insight on the offense Josh McDaniels runs, and how it differs from other styles around the NFL. What has been the key to Drake Maye thriving in this offense?

00:00 Getting to know the different offensive systems in the NFL
7:00 Why has Drake Maye been able to execute what Josh McDaniels wants
11:30 Why don’t other teams want to teach QBs to read coverage?
20:00 how many QBs run a hybrid combination concept?
24:00 Hoyer goes to the whiteboard to break down the X’s and...

Did the Bills provide a blueprint on how to slow down Drake Maye and the Patriots offense? How will the Ravens scheme for Sunday? Phil Perry breaks down all that, and talks with Kayshon Boutte about how he can help Drake Maye against man coverage.

0:00 What we learned from loss to the Bills

1:00 Will the Ravens replicate what Bills did to stifle the Patriots offense?

7:30 Kayshon Boutte 1-on-1

14:00 Who’s Next?!

20:00 Next Pats mailbag

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Phil Perry welcomes Tyler Dunne of GoLongFootball.com to preview this week’s huge matchup between the Patriots and the Buffalo Bills. They discuss whether Drake Maye is already approaching Josh Allen’s quarterback tier and what it could mean if the Bills once again fall short of the Super Bowl. Then, Phil highlights two college players to watch during this year’s bowl season and opens the mailbag to answer your questions.

4:20- Tyler Dunne explains why Drake Maye has already caught up to Josh Allen’s level as a QB

6:20- How are B...

The Patriots head into the bye week with an 11-2 record, but how can they improve with their week off? Phil Perry breaks down the areas of focus for the team. Later, Dane Brugler checks in with his latest 2026 NFL mock draft and discusses some options for the Patriots next season. 

1:00-Are the Patriots motivated by the “nobody believed in us”?

4:30-Why haven’t teams been able to slow down Drake Maye?

12:30-Will there be tweaks coming to the Patriots rushing attack?

18:00-Dane Brugler talks 2026 NFL Draft

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Phil Perry is back with a brand-new episode of The Next Pats Podcast! This week, Phil discusses how the Patriots can adjust with an injured offensive line, and Taylor Kyles (CLNS) joins the show to discuss the Patriots' MNF matchup vs. the Giants. Finally, Phil answers your Thanksgiving week mailbag questions!

2:00: How can the Patriots adjust protect Drake Maye with an injured offensive line?

07:00: Taylor Kyles (CLNS) joins the show to discuss the Patriots matchup vs. the Giants on MNF

9:00: Challenge the Giants' pass rush presents.

16:00: Why teams are using man...

Phil Perry breaks down JUST how accurate Drake Maye has been this season and discusses what’s led to his success this season. Later, we catch up with Austin Hooper to talk about his “My Cause, My Cleats” charity campaign, and of course hit you with some college players to keep an eye on as potential Patriots.  

1:30-Drake Maye says his competitiveness has led to better accuracy this season 

8:00-Austin Hooper on how mix of veterans and young guys have benefited the Patriots

12:00-Hooper talks “My Cause My Cleats” charity campaign

17:00-Who's Next?! And mailb...

There is plenty of BUZZ surrounding the New England Patriots following their win over the Jets on Thursday night. Who better to talk to, than a former Patriot who was there calling the game? Devin McCourty talks with Phil Perry about how LEGIT the Patriots are, and whether a Super Bowl could be in their future. Later, Phil Perry breaks down his stock watch and answers your mailbag questions.

3:00-Devin McCourty on the buzz around Foxboro when calling the game last night

10:00-McCourty praises Drake Maye’s ability to stay calm

12:30-How would De...

Phil Perry chats with Shawn Syed of Sumersports to get his take on what Josh McDaniels has done to get the most from Drake Maye. Is the Patriots’ offensive production sustainable?  Later, Phil tells you which college players are great Patriots fits, and answers questions from the mailbag. 

1:00-Patriots-Buccaneers preview

5:00-Benefits of Patriots running 12 personnel

16:00-Is the Patriots offensive production sustainable? 

19:00-Who's Next?!

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Phil Perry talks with James Palmer to get a national perspective of Drake Maye and the New England Patriots’ hot start to the season. How sustainable is the pace the Patriots are on? What moves could the Patriots make at the trade deadline? Later, Phil tells you “Who’s Next?!” and highlights a couple college standouts and answers your mailbag questions. 

1:30-Drake Maye & Kayson Boutte: One of the most explosive duos in the NFL?

4:00-James Palmer on the national perspective of Drake Maye?

9:00-"Trick or Treat” what will happen at the NFL trade deadlin...

How do the Patriots get TreVeyon Henderson more involved? Phil Perry talks with Patriots legend James White to get his take on why we should have patience with the rookie. Later, we break down potential future Patriots, and give Will Campbell the credit he deserves.

1:00-Drake Maye now third-best odds to win 2025 NFL MVP 

4:30-James White: Fun to watch Maye exceed expectations

6:30-How do the Patriots get TreVeyon Henderson more involved?

16:00-Who’s Next: Possible future Patriots in the NCAA

22:00-Giving Will Campbell the credit he deserves

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The Patriots are in first place in the AFC East and looking to get a win down in Tennessee! Phil Perry talks with NFL Insider Dianna Russini about the national buzz surrounding Drake Maye’s incredible development and massive SURGE. They also discuss Mike Vrabel's return to Nashville, and which potential trade targets the Patriots should pursue before the deadline.

2:15- Dianna Russini weighs in on Mike Vrabel returning to Tennessee
5:45- What's the national buzz around Drake Maye?
8:20- Who could the Patriots target at the trade deadline?
11:40- Dianna explains why...

Phil Perry welcomes in Rob Ninkovich to get his thoughts on Drake Maye’s impressive start to Year 2, Mike Vrabel’s leadership style and whether he thinks this team is for real. Then, Phil shares which college players to keep an eye on this weekend and opens up the mailbag to answer your questions!

1:00- Phil breaks down why Drake Maye has been even more impressive than you realize through five weeks

3:30- Rob Ninkovich shares whether or not he thinks the Patriots are a playoff team

5:50- How would you gamep...

Drake Maye and the offensive line have been stellar up to this point, but is it sustainable? Phil Perry talks with Steve Steve Palazzolo about that and much more! Later, we tell you who to watch this weekend in college football and answer your mailbag questions. 

1:00- Is Drake Maye’s level of play sustainable? 
3:30- Seeing the results of the Patriots setting Drake Maye up for success 
7:00- Will other teams start scheming to slow down Stefon Diggs? 
6:30- Which NFL QB is the best comp to Drake Maye? 
10:00- Impressi...