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"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft.

How the Patriots can adjust ON THE FLY with lineman hurting
#394
Yesterday at 11:54 PM

Phil Perry is back with a brand-new episode of The Next Pats Podcast! This week, Phil discusses how the Patriots' can adjust with an injured offensive line, and Taylor Kyles (CLNS) joins the show to discuss the Patriots' MNF matchup vs. the Giants. Finally, Phil answers your Thanksgiving week mailbag questions!

2:00: How can the Patriots adjust protect Drake Maye with an injured offensive line?

07:00: Taylor Kyles (CLNS) joins the show to discuss the Patriots matchup vs. the Giants on MNF

9:00: Challenge the Giants' pass rush presents.

16:00: Why teams are using man...


Why Drake Maye has been so MIND-BOGGLINGLY accurate
#393
Last Thursday at 8:57 PM

Phil Perry breaks down JUST how accurate Drake Maye has been this season and discusses what’s led to his success this season. Later, we catch up with Austin Hooper to talk about his “My Cause, My Cleats” charity campaign, and of course hit you with some college players to keep an eye on as potential Patriots.  

1:30-Drake Maye says his competitiveness has led to better accuracy this season 

8:00-Austin Hooper on how mix of veterans and young guys have benefited the Patriots

12:00-Hooper talks “My Cause My Cleats” charity campaign

17:00-Who's Next?! And mailb...


Inside Foxboro: Devin McCourty on Super Bowl hopes and new era buzz
#392
11/14/2025

There is plenty of BUZZ surrounding the New England Patriots following their win over the Jets on Thursday night. Who better to talk to, than a former Patriot who was there calling the game? Devin McCourty talks with Phil Perry about how LEGIT the Patriots are, and whether a Super Bowl could be in their future. Later, Phil Perry breaks down his stock watch and answers your mailbag questions.

3:00-Devin McCourty on the buzz around Foxboro when calling the game last night

10:00-McCourty praises Drake Maye’s ability to stay calm

12:30-How would De...


Scheme tweaks that have fueled Drake Maye’s SPECIAL season
#391
11/06/2025

Phil Perry chats with Shawn Syed of Sumersports to get his take on what Josh McDaniels has done to get the most from Drake Maye. Is the Patriots’ offensive production sustainable?  Later, Phil tells you which college players are great Patriots fits, and answers questions from the mailbag. 

1:00-Patriots-Buccaneers preview

5:00-Benefits of Patriots running 12 personnel

16:00-Is the Patriots offensive production sustainable? 

19:00-Who's Next?!

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NFL Insider: How Patriots can CAPITALIZE on Drake Maye’s rise at trade deadline
#390
10/30/2025

Phil Perry talks with James Palmer to get a national perspective of Drake Maye and the New England Patriots’ hot start to the season. How sustainable is the pace the Patriots are on? What moves could the Patriots make at the trade deadline? Later, Phil tells you “Who’s Next?!” and highlights a couple college standouts and answers your mailbag questions. 

1:30-Drake Maye & Kayson Boutte: One of the most explosive duos in the NFL?

4:00-James Palmer on the national perspective of Drake Maye?

9:00-"Trick or Treat” what will happen at the NFL trade deadlin...


James White explains why the Patriots will NOT give up on TreVeyon Henderson
#389
10/23/2025

How do the Patriots get TreVeyon Henderson more involved? Phil Perry talks with Patriots legend James White to get his take on why we should have patience with the rookie. Later, we break down potential future Patriots, and give Will Campbell the credit he deserves.

1:00-Drake Maye now third-best odds to win 2025 NFL MVP 

4:30-James White: Fun to watch Maye exceed expectations

6:30-How do the Patriots get TreVeyon Henderson more involved?

16:00-Who’s Next: Possible future Patriots in the NCAA

22:00-Giving Will Campbell the credit he deserves

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Dianna Russini talks Drake Maye’s SURGE and how Patriots can ADD at trade deadline
#388
10/16/2025

The Patriots are in first place in the AFC East and looking to get a win down in Tennessee! Phil Perry talks with NFL Insider Dianna Russini about the national buzz surrounding Drake Maye’s incredible development and massive SURGE. They also discuss Mike Vrabel's return to Nashville, and which potential trade targets the Patriots should pursue before the deadline.

 

2:15- Dianna Russini weighs in on Mike Vrabel returning to Tennessee
5:45- What's the national buzz around Drake Maye?
8:20- Who could the Patriots target at the trade deadline?
11:40- Dianna explains why...


How Drake Maye's EYES explain his improvement this season
#387
10/09/2025

Phil Perry welcomes in Rob Ninkovich to get his thoughts on Drake Maye’s impressive start to Year 2, Mike Vrabel’s leadership style and whether he thinks this team is for real. Then, Phil shares which college players to keep an eye on this weekend and opens up the mailbag to answer your questions!

 

1:00- Phil breaks down why Drake Maye has been even more impressive than you realize through five weeks

3:30- Rob Ninkovich shares whether or not he thinks the Patriots are a playoff team

5:50- How would you gamep...


How sustainable is Drake Maye’s SCORCHING Year 2 start?
#386
10/02/2025

Drake Maye and the offensive line have been stellar up to this point, but is it sustainable? Phil Perry talks with Steve Steve Palazzolo about that and much more! Later, we tell you who to watch this weekend in college football and answer your mailbag questions. 

 

1:00- Is Drake Maye’s level of play sustainable? 
3:30- Seeing the results of the Patriots setting Drake Maye up for success 
7:00- Will other teams start scheming to slow down Stefon Diggs? 
6:30- Which NFL QB is the best comp to Drake Maye? 
10:00- Impressi...


Kurt Warner explains how the Patriots can take Drake Maye’s game to the NEXT LEVEL
#385
09/26/2025

Phil Perry talks with Kurt Warner to get his advice on what the Patriots can do to maximize Drake Maye’s potential. Later, Phil gives you “Who’s Next?” and highlights three college football players to watch this weekend, and answers your questions from the Next Pats Mailbag.

3:30-What is Kurt Warner’s favorite part of Drake Maye’s game?

9:00-How can Josh McDaniels set Drake Maye up for success?

12:30-How do the Patriots make “big plays” on offense?

18:00-Who's Next?!: College players to keep an eye on this weekend

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Why Drake Maye’s start to his career is EERILY SIMILAR to Josh Allen’s
#384
09/18/2025

Phil Perry talks with Tyler Dunne of GoLongTD.com about his three-part series on the Chicago Bears, “House of dysfunction.” Will the Bears regret not looking into drafting Drake Maye? Later, Phil discusses “Who’s next?!” and gives you three college players to watch this weekend and answers your mailbag questions.  

4:00 -Tyler details his three-part series on Chicago Bears, “House of dysfunction” 5:30 - Will Chicago regret passing on Drake Maye? 12:30 - Why Drake Maye’s start to his career is EERILY SIMILAR to Josh Allen’s 15:30 - Who's Next?! 21:00 - Next Pats mailbag 

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Why Drake Maye CAN handle the Josh McDaniels’ offense
#383
09/11/2025

A lot of questions this week surrounding whether there is “too much” on Drake Maye’s plate. So who better to ask than former Patriots QB and BFF of the podcast, Matt Cassel?! Cassel breaks down the expectations of a QB in the New England system, and discusses what the Patriots can do to set up Drake for success in Week 2.

1:00 - Drake Maye says there is not too much on his plate 

2:00 - Matt Cassel details expectations for Drake Maye in the Patriots offense 

9:00 - How can the Patriots set up Drake for succ...


Dante Scarnecchia dives deep on how the Patriots can get the MOST out of Will Campbell
#382
09/04/2025

Phil Perry talks with former Patriots offensive line coach, Dante Scarnecchia, to get his thoughts on the Patriots starting two rookies on the offensive line. How can the Patriots set their OL up for success this season? What’s Dante’s first impressions of Will Campbell? Later, Phil answers your questions and shares a few college players to keep an eye on this season.

2:45-Dante Scarnecchia on the Patriots starting 2 rookies on the offensive line

6:45-Dante love the “motor” of Will Campbell

12:30-Dante's advice for Campbell taking it to the next level in the NFL<...


Best-kept SECRET in Patriots rookie class
#381
08/29/2025

The Patriots’ best-kept secret in their rookie class is an undrafted free agent, but it’s not Efton Chism. Spoiler alert, it’s Elijah Ponder, a 6’3”, 260lb linebacker with insane combine numbers. Phil Perry says it’s a mystery he wasn’t drafted. Listen to an exclusive interview with Ponder, and Phil shares why exactly he likes the rookie so much.

Not only that, but Phil also answers a handful of mailbag questions at the end of the show.

1:04 - Why Elijah Ponder earned a spot on Patriots 53-man roster

3:00 - Elijah Ponder by the numbers...


Patriots camp superlatives: Drake Maye, TreVeyon Henderson LEADING THE WAY
#380
08/22/2025

Best player? Most surprising? Phil Perry hands out his superlatives for Patriots training camp. Many young and new players dominate the categories. Plus, with cut-down day just days away, Phil discusses his 53-man roster projection. Finally, you hear from Matthew Berry about all things fantasy football related to the Patriots. Are there any players actually worth picking up this season?

1:01 - Patriots camp superlatives

1:25 - Best player

2:56 - Most surprising player

3:51 - Most disappointing player

5:28 - Biggest takeaway

9:34 - Best free agent signing

12:26 - Rookie...


How Drake Maye showed REAL GROWTH during Vikings joint practices
#379
08/15/2025

Phil Perry breaks down Day 2 of the joint practice with the Vikings. He discusses the offense’s struggles, highlights a bright spot in Drake Maye, and provides reacts to the latest on Stefon Diggs.

1:00 Breaking down Day 2 of joint practices in Minnesota

14:00 Stock Watch after two days with the Vikings

18:00 - What's going on with Stefon Diggs?

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Why Pop Douglas was able to LIGHT IT UP against the Commanders
#378
08/07/2025

Phil Perry is back with a new Next Pats Podcast. Phil is sharing his takeaways from the Patriots' joint practice vs. the Commanders, how DeMario Douglas will be utilized in Josh McDaniels' offense, and how Mack Hollins is quickly emerging after being on PUP. Later, Phil answers your mailbag questions!

01:00: The Patriots 'belonged' during joint practice with Commanders.

05:00: Why Phil believes Pop Douglas will be the main receiver for the Patriots in 2025

9:55: We hear from Pop Douglas, how being tired of losing is motivating him in 2025 and the impact of Josh McDaniels

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Why Kyle Williams is earning drake Maye's TRUST, plus a 1-on-1 with Morgan Moses
#377
07/31/2025

Phil Perry shares his main takeaways from Day 8 of training camp practice for the New England Patriots before welcoming in offensive tackle Morgan Moses for an exclusive 1-on-1 interview.

 

1:30- Phil shares what’s impressed him the most about Drake Maye so far in camp

3:20- Kyle Williams is already showing his resiliency and ability to bounce back from bad plays

5:40- Offensive line update

7:35- Morgan Moses on his first camp with the Patriots and working with the team’s rookie linemen

15:20- Phil previews his poten...


Patriots rookie class ALREADY opening eyes in camp
#376
07/24/2025

Phil Perry is back with another episode of the Next Pats Podcast! In this episode, Phil breaks down what he's seen through the first two days of Patriots training camp, whose stock is up, whose stock is down, plus an exclusive interview with Hunter Henry.  

3:00 - Where young Patriots sit in their respective pecking orders, how Drake Maye looks through first two practices in Josh McDaniels' offense

8:45 - Not a great two days for the 2024 draft class, including the absence of Ja'Lynn Polk.

11:30 - TreVeyon Henderson and Kyle Williams' stock is up


Why Terry McLaurin would make the PERFECT Patriot
#375
07/18/2025

Phil Perry welcomes in JP Finlay of NBC4 Sports Washington to get his thoughts on what's going on between the Washington Commanders and wide receiver Terry McLaurin, before sharing his camp battles to watch and opening up the mailbag to answer your questions!

 

1:00- Phil shares his thoughts on the contract dispute between Terry McLaurin and the Commanders and what it could mean for the Patriots

6:55- JP Finlay joins to share his thoughts on how likely it is that McLaurin could become available and why he thinks Washington is hesitant to extend the...


How much more does Drake Maye need for an ELITE surrounding cast?
#374
07/01/2025

Phil Perry dives deep into NFL pass protection, ranking every team's offensive line. But where do the New England Patriots stand when it comes to protecting Drake Maye? Have they truly done enough to give him the clean pocket he needs to succeed? Find out where the Patriots rank league-wide and what it means for Maye's development.

4:00-Ranking the offensive lines around the NFL

8:30-Which category do the Patriots fall under?

13:30-Phil's full breakdown of the Patriots’ overall ranks

16:30-Overall rankings, which team protected their QB the best?

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Why Josh McDaniels and Drake Maye will PRODUCE in 2025
#373
06/24/2025

Phil Perry continues his "Three P's" series - playmakers, play-callers, and protection. In this episode, he breaks down the play-callers, and where Josh McDaniels ranks among offensive play-callers in the league. Phil also breaks down how McDaniels can get Drake Maye and the Pats to exceed expectations.  

03:30: Josh McDaniels is the most interesting person to watch at 1 Patriot Place this season

11:00: If Drake Maye can handle everything Josh McDaniels throws at him, the offense could be better than expected  

18:00: Don't be surprised if DeMario Douglas is used more under McDaniels this season

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Playmaker rankings: What are REALISTIC expectations for Stefon Diggs?
#372
06/20/2025

Phil Perry kicks off his "Three P's" series - playmakers, playcallers, and protection. He starts with a deep dive into playmakers, ranking the top talent across the league and analyzing where the Patriots stack up. Plus, Phil answers your mailbag questions. 

1:00 - Overall thoughts on Patriots' group of weapons 

20:00 - Playmaker rankings 

53:00 - Answering your mailbag questions

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Why Drake Maye thinks he's HITTING HIS STRIDE in the new Patriots offense
#371
06/13/2025

Phil Perry is wrapping up what he saw from Patriots minicamp, giving us his 'way too early' 52-man roster projection and wrapping up with his latest mailbag!

02:00 - Takeaways from Patriots minicamp - offense improves but still a lot of work to do to get to where they want to be in the regular season

09:30 - No-huddle period miscommunication between Stefon Diggs, Hunter Henry and Drake Maye

11:55 - Phil is concerned about the interior offensive line

15:48 - Patriots secondary looked NASTY! Christian Gonzalez the MVP of minicamp

23:30 - Drake...


Kyle Williams WORK ETHIC already impressing Patriots: Who to watch out for at minicamp
#370
06/06/2025

Phil Perry is back with a new episode of the Next Pats Podcast. Phil discusses Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers, 8 things to look out for during Patriots minicamp next week, and takes your questions with a new mailbag!

2:15: Aaron Rodgers to the Pittsburgh Steelers - what it means for the Patriots and what NFL evaluators are saying about him

7:45: 8 things to look out for at Patriots mini camp next week, including a deep dive into Stefon Diggs and Rookie Kyle Williams

18:00: We hear from receivers coach Todd Downing and get his thoughts about...


Taking you INSIDE Patriots OTAs: How does Drake Maye look?
#369
05/30/2025

Phil's tackling all your mailbag questions this week, covering everything from Drake Maye’s demeanor at OTAs to how the Patriots might approach the Stefon Diggs situation. He also dives into whether growing pains could linger into the start of the season and wraps it all up with a breakdown of his latest quarterback rankings 

4:00-Examining Drake Maye’s demeanor at OTAs 

16:00 - Should we expect growing pains to carry over into the season? 

28:30 - How will the Patriots handle the Diggs situation? 

49:00 - Phil breaks down his QB rankings

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NOBODY PANIC about Drake Maye’s interceptions; getting to know rookie Craig Woodson
#368
05/21/2025

Phil Perry empties his notebook with his biggest takeaways from Patriots OTAs on Tuesday. Later, Phil talks with Cal’s head coach Justin Wilcox to get to know more about Craig Woodson.

 

4:00-Let's not panic about Drake Maye throwing 4 interceptions

11:00-How much will be on Maye’s plate under a Josh McDaniels’ offense?

15:30-The offensive variety we saw from McDaniels

18:30-First impressions of the rookies 

28:00-Justin Wilcox interview

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Why a STEER WRESTLING rookie could grab a Patriots roster spot
#367
05/12/2025

An undrafted free agent RB who used to be a steer-wrestler and turned down NIL money to stay a captain at UC Davis?!? Phil Perry talks with UC Davis head coach, Tim Plough, to get more insight on Lan Larison.

 

2:00-Perry's first impressions of Lan Larison at rookie mini-camp 

6:30-Tim Plough on the football character of Larison

11:00-Plough on where the Patriots can use Lan 

21:00-Lan turned down NIL money to stay with his team

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Rookie Camp Takeaways: Mike Vrabel is a MACHINE
#366
05/09/2025

Phil Perry opens up the notebook and shares his main takeaways from the Patriots' first day of rookie minicamp.

 

2:20- Phil reacts to defensive coordinator Terrell Williams not being at practice due to a "traumatic" health scare

4:40- Who was, and wasn't, in attendance for the rookies on Friday?

8:20- Takeaway 1: Mike Vrabel's hands-on coaching approach continues to impress and entertain

12:10- Takeaway 2: Will Campbell was at left tackle -- and ONLY at left tackle on Friday

16:30- Takeaway 3: Josh McDaniels was loud and clearly excited to b...


Could Efton Chism III be Cooper Kupp 2.0 for the Patriots?
#365
05/07/2025

Phil Perry talks with Aaron Best, Head coach at Eastern Washington University, to get his scouting report on Efton Chism III. How similar is his game to former EWU Eagle Cooper Kupp? Later, Phil breaks down his ‘most improved’ players on the Patriots’ roster heading into next season. 

1:00-The scouting report on Efton Chism III

6:30-Coach Aaron Best on the football character of Chism

12:00-Could Chism be Cooper Kupp 2.0?

26:30-’Most improved’ players on the Patriots’ roster

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Patriots got a STEAL! James White thinks TreVeyon Henderson is a "Home Run" pick
#364
05/01/2025

Phil Perry talks with James White to get his reaction to the Patriots drafting TreVeyon Henderson in the 2025 NFL Draft. James explains why this was a “home run” pick for the Patriots, and breaks down what he likes about Henderson’s game. 

6:00-James White calls TreVeyon Henderson a “home run” pick

8:00-Biggest challenge for Henderson to learn Josh McDaniels offense

12:30-White breaks down highlights from Henderson

19:00-Analyzing Henderson's impressive pass protection 

 

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Grading the Patriots’ 2025 NFL Draft: How this HAUL could get them into the playoffs
#363
04/30/2025

Phil Perry gives his draft grades for the Patriots’ 2025 Draft; which players can impact the team next season?  Later, Tyler Dunne joins to give a Buffalo Bills perspective on how the Patriots roster is shaping up...and whether they are the next-best team in the AFC East.

3:00-Phil gives his report card for the Patriots’ draft

14:30-Tyler Dunne on the state of the Buffalo Bills

29:00-What should Patriots fan expect from Mack Hollins?

37:00-Josh Allen/Drake Maye rookie season comparison

41:00-Can the Patriots make the playoffs this season?

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2025 NFL Draft Wrap Up: Patriots smash the value button on Day 3
#362
04/27/2025

Tom Curran and Phil Perry give their complete recap of the Patriots’ 2025 NFL Draft. How well did the Patriots execute a game plan to address all their roster needs?

1:00- Patriots draft for value in the first five rounds
11:10- Breaking down the roster fits for each of the team's draft picks
32:30- Which pick made you wince the most?
36:00- What was your favorite pick?
37:15- Live reaction to the Patriots drafting a long snapper (Phil was not happy)
42:45- What happened with Sheddeur Sanders?
51:20- Live reaction to the Patr...


INSTANT REACTION to NFL Draft Day 2: Patriots offense gets a lot more athletic and explosive!
#361
04/26/2025

A best-of selection from NBC Sports Boston’s ‘On the Clock’ coverage of night two of the 2025 NFL Draft, featuring Tom Curran, Phil Perry and Albert Breer reacting to the Patriots’ round two and three picks.

 

1:00- Tom and Phil offer instant reaction and analysis to the Patriots’ second-round pick, TreVeyon Henderson, running back out of Ohio State

11:40- Former NFL QB Matt Cassel breaks down what he saw from Henderson in college

13:15- Tom and Phil welcome in Albert Breer to react to the Henderson pick and whether or not this means...


INSTANT REACTION to the Pats drafting LSU left tackle Will Campbell 4th overall
#360
04/25/2025

A best-of selection from NBC Sports Boston’s ‘On the Clock’ coverage of night one of the 2025 NFL Draft, featuring Tom Curran, Phil Perry, Albert Breer, Brian Hoyer, BC Eagles head coach Bill O’Brien, and more!

 

1:00- Tom Curran, Phil Perry, Brian Hoyer and Albert Breer join Tom Giles to offer instant reaction and analysis to the selection

12:00- Mike Vrabel and Will Campbell speak following the pick

13:20- Bill O’Brien joins to break down the pick and why he thinks Campbell will be a success in New England

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FINAL predictions for the Patriots’ draft with Albert Breer
#359
04/23/2025

Phil Perry breaks down the BEST FITS for the Patriots in the draft when it comes to WR and Edge. Later, Albert Breer joins to give his predictions for the first round of the NFL Draft, and gives a ‘wildcard’ pick the Patriots could take. 

3:30-Phil's best fits at WR in the draft for the Patriots

12:00-Best fits at Edge in the draft

18:30-Albert Breer gives his predictions for the first round of the draft

27:00-What would be the ‘wildcard’ pick for the Patriots?

34:00-Where do the Patriots target WR help?<...


The Next Pats Podcast: LIVE Patriots Mock Draft Edition
#358
04/17/2025

Phil Perry did a LIVE Patriots Mock Draft on Wednesday. Fans could vote for the player the Patriots should take in each round of the upcoming 2025 NFL Draft. Check out the video version on the NBC Sports Boston YouTube page.

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Uncovering late-round draft GEMS for the Patriots
#357
04/09/2025

Who will be the best options on Day 2 and 3 of the NFL Draft?  Phil Perry talks with Emory Hunt of CBS Sports to get his take on some of the best kept secrets in the draft.

2:00-Phil Perry’s favorite options for Day 2 and 3 

20:30-Emory Hunt breaks down the best Day 2 and 3 LT options for the Patriots

27:30-How can the Patriots get WR help later in the draft? 

34:30-Breaking down the best RB options

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Patriots give Drake Maye CORNERSTONE pieces in new seven-round mock draft
#356
04/02/2025

Phil Perry breaks down his Patriots seven-round mock draft 6.0. Later, Cynthia Frelund joins to talk about why the Patriots should be taking calls for the No. 4 pick. 

2:00- Phil's seven-round mock draft 6.0

8:00-Patriots trade back, then back up!

25:30-Best fits at RB for the Patriots

36:00-Conversation with Cynthia Frelund

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Why Stefon Diggs will give the Patriots the JOLT they need
#355
03/26/2025

Phil Perry is joined by WEEI’s Jon Lyons to react to the Patriots signing Stefon Diggs. What does this mean for their draft strategy? They also rank their top 5 free-agent signings so far.

2:00-Reaction to the Stefon Diggs signing

19:00-Latest Draft news

27:00-Can Diggs be the Patriots’ No. 1 WR?

34:45-Does Diggs signing take Travis Hunter off the board?

45:00-Ranking the top 5 free-agent acquisitions so far

 

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