Between Sundays™
Church services mostly happen on the weekends. And that's all well and good but we spend most of our time between Sundays. Welcome to a podcast for normal people by normal people that dives into conversations and stories happening in and around Grace Church. 3 staff members host this weekly podcast and process weekend sermons, interview interesting people, and shoot the proverbial breeze every week. This is Between Sundays™!
What does it really mean to be made in the image of God?
What does it really mean to be made in the image of God?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry kick off the “Made in the Image” series in Genesis 1. Barry explains how ancient statues of gods and kings help us understand that we are God’s living representatives on earth. We wrestle with how the image of God applies to someone losing themselves to dementia, why even the people we struggle to love still bear God’s image, and how this truth can shape the way we treat our neighbors in a divided election season.
Have Christians Quietly Closed Their Windows?
What does it look like to keep your windows open in a world pressuring you to close them?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry wrap up the “Faithful in a Foreign Land” series with Daniel in the lion’s den. Barry shares about his trip to war-torn Ukraine with Mission to Ukraine. We explore why Daniel praying “as usual” is the heart of the story, how God works where human systems fail, and whether American Christians today are more tempted to bow to false idols or quietly close our own windows.
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Even If He Doesn’t: Faith in the Fire
Would you still trust God if He didn’t rescue you from the fire?In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Jeff continue the “Faithful in a Foreign Land” series with Daniel 3 and the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Maron shares how creating a life map revealed God’s quiet preparation and faithfulness through both the good and hard seasons of her life, and how God had been forming these three young men long before they faced the furnace. We discuss why Daniel and his friends suffered exile for their nation’s corporate sin despite their own faithfulness, and why jealou...
Influence, Platform, or Entertainment?
Are you trying to influence people for Jesus, or just trying to build a platform?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Milton continue the “Faithful in a Foreign Land” series in Daniel 2, exploring what it means to be influencers in a foreign land who point to Jesus instead of ourselves. We discuss why part of Daniel was written in Aramaic, the common language of Babylon, and why Daniel chose to stay and serve a king who was losing his mind. We wrestle with how to discern when God calls us to stay and when He calls us to g...
Living as Exiles: Faith in a Foreign Land
How do you stay faithful in a culture that keeps asking you to blend in?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry kick off the "Daniel" series, exploring what it means to live as exiles in a land that isn't our home. Drawing from Daniel 1, we discuss why Daniel and his friends served the Babylonian king, learned his language, and even accepted new names, yet drew a firm line at eating from the king's table. We unpack the ancient practice of royal hostages and Jeremiah 29's surprising call to seek the peace and prosperity of Babylon. We...
You Can't Parent Alone
What happens to the picture you had for your kids when they grow into someone completely different?
In this episode Tyler, Tim, Amy, and Maron wrap up the "Parenting" series with a roundtable conversation drawn from every stage of parenting: young kids, teenagers, adult children, and aging parents. Tim opens up about a year of injuries and how 51 years of marriage prepared him and Jennifer to care for each other. We talk about turning into our parents and what we chose to carry forward or leave behind. We explore the moment kids begin slipping out of your...
The Village Your Teenager Needs More Than Your Control
What if your teenager's faith depends more on five other adults than it does on your parenting? In this episode Maron teaches on parenting teenagers, sharing research that shows teenagers are far more likely to maintain faith into adulthood when they have five mentors beyond their parents invested in their lives. We explore why you can have either control or growth with teenagers, but not both. Maron shares honest stories about parenting out of generational fear and learning to build a village instead of a fortress. We discover how Paul subverts the authoritarian father-of-the-household system by calling parents to...
Clothing Yourself With Christ as a Parent
What does it mean to model Christ better than you instruct your children?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry kick off the "Parenting" series, exploring the foundation that matters more than any technique. Drawing from Colossians 3, the hosts emphasize that identity in Christ comes before instruction—and your own faith journey is the load-bearing wall of parenting. We discuss why modern parenting techniques (from attachment parenting to free-range parenting) matter far less than becoming someone your kids can actually see living out Christ's character. We explore Paul's metaphor of "clothing yourself" with virtues like patience and co...
Gratitude Without Answers
How do we practice gratitude when our circumstances haven't changed and pain is still unresolved?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry wrap up the "Remember" series on Psalm 107, exploring why gratitude must be practiced as a discipline, not just a feeling. We discover how the psalm shifts from past-tense rescue stories to present-tense descriptions of God's character, anchoring our thanksgiving in God's unfailing love (khesed) rather than our circumstances. We explore the power of corporate gratitude—how hearing others' stories of faith helps us maintain a posture of thankfulness during our own unresolved storms. We also an...
Why God Allows Suffering: Wrestling With Psalm 107
When disaster strikes, do we ask why or do we ask who?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry tackle the fourth story in Psalm 107 about sailors in a storm, amid the context of the historic flooding devastating central Indiana. We explore why ancient people feared the sea as chaos, wrestle with whether God causes or allows suffering, and discover the critical shift from asking "why is this happening?" to asking "who is with me in it?" We discuss how our modern, individualistic worldview shapes our questions about suffering, explore what unfailing love (hesed) means when paired...
Gratitude for Redemption from Your Mistakes
What does gratitude look like when you're redeemed from your own mistakes?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into week two of the "Remember" series with Maron's sermon on Psalm 107. We explore the psychological concept of benefit appraisal—gratitude through comparison—and how looking back at where God has brought us builds resilience. Maron focuses on the prisoners and fools in Psalm 107, people suffering from their own choices, and how God rescues them with the same unfailing love as those suffering from circumstances. We unpack the shepherd's imagery: the rod protecting us from external enemies (sham...
What to Do When You're in the Wilderness
What if gratitude literally rewires your brain away from anxiety and toward trust in God?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry launch the new four-week "Remember" series based on Psalm 107, exploring how practicing gratitude transforms us. We dive into the neuroscience of neuroplasticity and how our brains change based on our thoughts and habits. We look at the first story in Psalm 107 about wanderers in the wilderness, exploring why gratitude for God's character matters more than gratitude for our circumstances. We wrestle with hard questions: how can we be grateful when facing depression, chronic pain, or...
How Gratitude Rewires Your Brain | Series Setup
How can practicing gratitude rewire our brains away from anxiety and toward trust in God?
In this solo episode, Barry previews the upcoming gratitude series based on Psalm 107. We explore the neuroscience of how our brains are shaped by our habits and thoughts, and why practicing gratitude is like exercise for our faith. We dive into four scenarios in Psalm 107 where God delivers people in different circumstances—wanderers, prisoners, the sick, and sailors—and how sharing these stories in community builds collective trust and counteracts the anxiety-inducing narratives of social media and doom-scrolling. Head into Sunday prepared by r...
Is Baptism Just a Symbol?
What if we hold baptism practice loosely but baptism theology tightly?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry unpack the history, theology, and practice of baptism. We explore why Christians baptize once while Jewish mikvah required repeated washing, what Jesus' baptism actually meant, and the difference between infant and adult baptism. Barry digs into whether baptism is merely symbolic or something more transformative, connecting it to Old Testament concepts like the Red Sea and exploring debates about baptism for the dead. We wrestle with questions like: can you be a Christian without baptism? What does it mean...
Is Power Evil?
Is power evil, or is it how we use it that matters?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive deep into power and dominion from Genesis to Revelation. We unpack the difference between dominion and stewardship, explore how Jesus demonstrates self-giving love as the model for power, and wrestle with how the church historically aligned with empires instead of following Jesus's teachings. We also address listener questions about Jesus as a warrior in Revelation, when force is justified, and the painful reality of power abuse. Each host shares their personal relationship with power, control, and surrender.<...
Why Do We Crave Beauty?
Why do our souls crave beauty, and what is it pointing us toward?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into beauty from the "What If It's True?" series. We explore why humans yearn for beauty, trace beauty from the Garden of Eden to the tabernacle to Jesus as the new creation, and wrestle with the evolutionary vs. theological explanations for why we appreciate beauty. We discuss counterfeit beauty as an idol, how transcendent moments of beauty lift us from our lowest points, the need for sacred spaces, and practical ways to pursue beauty through intentional...
What Is True Freedom?
What is the difference between believing in Jesus and actually living as His disciple?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry sit down with guest Amy Christie to unpack her sermon on freedom from John 8. We dig into why true freedom isn't doing whatever you want but rather abiding in Jesus. We explore the difference between being a believer and being a disciple, why sin is like a powerful current rather than just a bad habit, and how community and accountability help us walk in freedom. We also wrestle with whether the church has lost the plot...
Is Jesus a Bouncer or a Savior?
What if "I am the way, the truth, and the life" means something completely different than we thought?
In this episode Tyler, Barry, and Maron dive into week five of "What If It's True?" exploring truth. Barry unpacks John 14:6, flipping the script on how we often read it. Jesus isn't a bouncer keeping people out but rather the one who left the mansion to find us in the wasteland. We bust the "mansion in the sky" myth, explore God deepfakes and misconceptions about God's character, connect Isaiah 59 to today's world, and discover that truth is a relational...
Humans Are Wired for Spirituality
What if humans are biologically wired for spirituality, and what does Jesus offer at the well?
In this episode Barry, Tyler, Maron, and guest Dave unpack his sermon on John 4 and Jesus and the woman at the well. We explore the fascinating idea that humans are biologically wired for transcendent spiritual experiences, discuss the nine universal questions every human asks, and dive deep into what Jesus meant by "living water" (Zao). We also explore the Jerusalem vs. Mount Gerizim debate, use the left brain vs. right brain framework to understand faith, and discover how Jesus models respectful...
My Kingdom Is Not of This World
What if our longing for justice points to a kingdom not of this world?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and guest Marin dive into week three of "What If It's True?" exploring our human longing for justice. We unpack what Jesus meant by "my kingdom is not of this world," discuss why injustice still persists if Jesus came to heal it, and explore Pilate's question "What is truth?"
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The Love We're Searching For
What if Jesus is both the love we're searching for and the love actively searching for us?
In this episode Tyler, Barry, and Maron dive into week two of "What If It's True?" exploring our deepest human longing: love. Maron unpacks her Mother's Day sermon on how Jesus washed his disciples' feet, including Judas, as a stunning example of radical, upside-down grace. We get real about why receiving love is harder than giving it, explore what it means that we're all "born looking for someone looking for us," and discuss how Christians often distort Jesus's image.
<...What If Our Deepest Longings Are True?
What if our deepest human longings point us to something true about God?
In this episode Tyler, Barry, and Maron kick off an eight-week series "What If It's True?" exploring seven universal human longings like justice, love, and freedom. We dive into John 3:16 deeper than you've ever heard it, to unpack the story of Nicodemus, and explore why saying "I could be wrong" in faith conversations is a great posture to have.
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What Are Citizens of Heaven?
What does it mean to be citizens of heaven living on Earth right now?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into Philippians and what it means to be citizens of heaven while still living here. We explore how Christians are called to be living embassies and portals that make Jesus visible to the world, connecting back to humanity's original purpose in Genesis.
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What Does Fear and Trembling Mean?
What does "fear and trembling" mean, and how do we shine as light in a dark world?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into Philippians 2 and what it means to be the light of the world. We explore the real meaning of "fear and trembling," why Paul calls the church to avoid complaining and arguing, and how a simple inflatable slide at a Ukrainian disability camp beautifully illustrates our calling to create moments of holiness.
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<...Partners in the Gospel | Between Sundays | Ep 307
What does it mean to be partners in the gospel, and who is your "one"?
In this episode Maron, Tyler, and Barry kick off the Reimagine series based on Philippians, exploring what it means to be partners in the gospel both relationally and physically. We unpack Philippians 1:6 and God's work in us, discuss Grace Church's mission to invest in "our ones," and wrestle with trusting God to complete His work in others. Plus, hear about Maron's new rescue puppy Mordecai Rigby and Barry's mead-making success.
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<...Who Is the Son of Man?
Who is the Son of Man, and why does Jesus' true identity matter? In this episode Barry, Maron (aka "Rambo Jesus"), and Dave dive into Jesus' identity as the Son of Man during Holy Week. We explore why religious leaders felt threatened by Jesus, why the disciples were confused about his mission, and what the Old Testament title "Son of Man" from Daniel really means.
What Is the Cup in Gethsemane?
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What is the cup Jesus prayed about in Gethsemane, and why does God allow free will?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into Jesus' prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane, unpacking what the "cup" of God's wrath means and why Jesus chose to drink it. We explore the echoes of Eden, why we still sin after Jesus' sacrifice, and how God's love includes allowing consequences. Plus, hear about Barry's food forest and mead-making, swingset replacements, and reflections on sanctification as a lifelong journey.
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When Following Jesus Means Losing
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What does it mean to lose in order to win in Jesus' upside-down kingdom?
In this episode Maron, Tyler, Barry, and Milton celebrate birthdays and dive into Peter's denial and what it means to follow Jesus when the kingdom looks nothing like worldly success. We explore how Jesus redefines winning by losing, the disorienting nature of the upside-down kingdom, and what it looks like to deny ourselves rather than deny Christ. Plus, hear about D&D mishaps, birthday gifts, Milton's disability advocacy podcast, and honest reflections on sacrifice and forgiveness.
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What does Jesus' upside-down coronation teach us about following him when expectations aren't met?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Milton dive into Easter themes, exploring Jesus' coronation on the cross and what it means to follow him when our expectations clash with God's plan. We wrestle with disappointment, unmet hopes, and the radical call to embrace God's upside-down kingdom. Plus, hear about Maron's trip to Dollywood where her niece stars as young Dolly Parton. Don't forget to subscribe as we continue through the Easter season!
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Who Are the Least of These?
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Tyler, Amy, and Barry dive into Matthew 25's sheep and goats parable, exploring what it really looks like to see and serve the marginalized. We wrestle with compassion fatigue, privilege, and the uncomfortable truth about sins of omission—being judged not just for what we do, but for what we fail to do. Barry shares his powerful story of experiencing homelessness in New York City for four days and what it taught him about human dignity. Plus, hear about basketball dad confessions, D&D adventures, and practical ways to show kindness in everyday moments.
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Whitewashed Tombs | Ep. 301
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How do we respond when Jesus calls out religious hypocrisy and urges us to repent?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry process the recent loss of beloved church member William, sharing memories of his joyful spirit and wrestling with grief. We dive into the challenging teachings of Matthew 23, where Jesus confronts the Pharisees' hypocrisy and calls God's people to repentance. We explore what it means to represent God's kingdom with mercy and justice, why legalism misses the heart of the law, and how prophetic confrontation can come from a pla...
Love Your Enemies
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What does it really mean to love your neighbor and even your enemies?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Amy dive into Jesus' greatest commandments, exploring the tricky business of loving our enemies and what it actually looks like to love your neighbor as yourself. We wrestle with boundaries and forgiveness, the difference between loving someone and being their doormat. Plus, hear about puppy fever, tough weeks, and honest reflections on spiritual growth.
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Servant Leadership Explained
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What does servant leadership really look like in Jesus' upside-down kingdom?
In this episode Tyler, Barry and Maron (sans headphones!) dive into Matthew 20 and Jesus' radical approach to power and greatness. We explore what it means to be a servant leader, what greatness really means in the upside-down kingdom, and how to spot genuine servant leadership in the church and world. Plus, hear about family road trips, surprise hippie parties, Tyler's D&D adventures as a dungeon master, Super Bowl snacks, and Lord of the Rings parenting moments.
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Finding Hope in Chaos | Ep 298
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How does the Spirit of Life bring renewal and hope, even in chaos and grief?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry wrap up the When God Lives in You series by diving into the Spirit of Life and God's greening power that brings renewal to all creation. We explore the concept of Veriditas, connect Tom Bombadil to the Spirit's playfulness, wrestle with finding joy amidst grief, and discover what it means to be resurrection people living between creation's groaning and new creation's hope.
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What Does Unity Really Cost?
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What does spiritual unity really cost, and how do we steward it in the church?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry welcome Aussie pastor Ken Kamau for a conversation about unity in the Spirit and what it takes to build it across cultures and churches. Ken shares his journey from Nairobi to Sydney, creative ministry strategies like free weddings, and his work revitalizing multicultural churches in Australia. We explore what spiritual unity requires—pride, comfort, exclusivity—and why unity is something we steward, not manufacture. Plus, hear about G...
Discover Your Spiritual Gifts | Ep. 296
Title: Discover Your Spiritual Gifts
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What are spiritual gifts, and how does the Holy Spirit equip us to build up the church?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry dive into the wild world of spiritual gifts, unpacking how the Holy Spirit equips everyone—not just "professional Christians"—with unique gifts to serve the church. We explore what spiritual gifts actually are, how to discover yours, and why they matter for building up the body of Christ. Plus, hear stories about heated coats, mead-making, Maron's epic spiritu...
Making Space for the Spirit | Ep 295
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What does it mean to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and how do we make space for God's presence?
In this episode Tyler, Maron, and Barry kick off 2026 and the new sermon series When God Lives in You by diving into the mystery of the Holy Spirit. We explore what it means to be truly indwelt by God, the difference between God's omnipresence and His indwelling presence, and how to cultivate awareness of the Spirit in everyday life. Plus, hear about Christmas highlights and New Year's resolutions. Check out the...
Between Sundays Wrapped | 2025 Year in Review
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What were the biggest lessons God taught us in 2025?
In this year-in-review episode, Tyler hosts as we replay some of the most memorable moments and major themes and series from 2025. We revisit what it means to count it all joy even in suffering, praying for "our ones" from the Reimagine series, the spiritual practice of prayer in our lives, how to fight for covenant faithfulness in marriage, taking first steps against injustice, avoiding syncretism and putting Christ above all else, and learning from Peter's failures and faith. It's a celebration of God's fai...
Who is the greatest in the Kingdom?
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What Does It Take To Go From the Stage to Leading Behind the Scenes? | Wizard of Oz
Special Grace Church Theatre Podcast | Wizard of Oz Pod 🎯 IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode our director, Amy Christie, sits down with Curtis Honeycutt, longtime Grace Theatre performer and current assistant director. Curtis shares his journey from the stage to leadership, reflecting on memorable shows, the reality of casting decisions, and what keeps him returning to Grace Theatre year after year (spoiler: it's the people). Hear about backstage camaraderie, the challenges of directing vs. performing, and why community matters more than the spotlight. Whether you're a cast member, crew, or just love theater, this conversation offers an honest look at wha...
