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Most multifamily investors are sitting on the sidelines right now wondering if the market is broken. Eric Strom and Eric Nordstrom think the opposite and they have 19 years of data to back it up. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with the co founders of Iron Ridge Capital, two of the most experienced multifamily syndicators in the country, who paused acquisitions entirely from January 2022 to May 2025 because nothing made sense and are now actively buying again at significant discounts. They break down exactly what the multifamily market looks like right now...

Most real estate investors are building a portfolio the same way buy, rehab, refinance, and watch their equity get trapped behind the walls of a mortgage while they pay heavy front-loaded interest for years.

Pat Grace built $65 million in rental properties across 200 single family assets doing it completely differently and he does not have a single traditional mortgage. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Pat Grace, who discovered a banking strategy used widely in Australia that is almost completely unknown in the United States, and used it to...

Most real estate investors think you need a bank, perfect credit, or a pile of cash to do deals. Chris Prefontaine has been proving that wrong for decades and he survived the 2008 crash to build one of the fastest growing real estate companies in America three years running on the Inc. 5000 list. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Chris Prefontaine, founder of Smart Real Estate Coach and author of the 3 Paydays book series, to break down exactly how creative financing and terms deals work in today's market, why subject-to and...

Most real estate investors know how to build in a bull market. Very few know what to do when that market turns against them. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits back down with Brandon Rockstar Rooks a capital raiser who spent a decade building a $100 million land entitlement business in the southeast, working with some of the biggest national builders in the country and who hit major headwinds when the market shifted in late 2024. Brandon shares exactly what happened, why he is not embarrassed to say he is on his third reinvention...

Most real estate investors have had a deal fall apart at the title company  not because the deal was bad, but because the title company did not know how to handle it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Ash Selle, founder of Phoenix Closing and a 25-year title and escrow veteran who has handled tens of thousands of transactions across 7 states. Ash Selle breaks down exactly how investor-friendly title works, how to close hairy and complicated deals that other title companies won't touch, what really happens inside a title company w...

Most real estate educators tell you to master one market and stay in it forever. Neil Bawa thinks that is wrong and lazy. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the Mad Scientist of Multifamily, a former data scientist and tech company founder who has built a portfolio of over 4,000 apartment units across 7 states with $400 million under management and 1,150 active investors. Neil breaks down why his data-driven approach to real estate outperforms gut instinct every single time, how he sold out a 237-unit apartment syndication in four...

Most business owners and real estate professionals are grinding for clients, chasing leads, and wondering why deals don't come to them when the real problem is that nobody knows who they are or what they stand for. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Dana Flanagan, known as the Authority Architect, a 25-year real estate veteran with hundreds of millions in commercial and global real estate who recruited 70 agents in 90 days, not by cold calling, but by building the kind of authority and credibility that makes people come to you. Dana...

Most real estate investors are so focused on houses they have completely overlooked one of the simplest and most scalable paths to seven figures in this industry. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Caleb Milobsky, a 27-year-old land wholesaler who transitioned from flipping houses to flipping land  and built a business doing over $2 million a year in the process. Caleb breaks down exactly why land has fewer variables than houses, how he sources deals across 15 states using SMS outreach, why his spreads are larger than anything he made wholesaling houses, a...

Most people in real estate have never heard of mineral rights investing and most people who have heard of John Fernando's story still don't believe it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with John Fernando, who went from homelessness, drug addiction, and couch surfing to raising over a billion dollars in capital through oil and gas mineral rights. John walks through the exact mindset shift that changed everything for him, how he discovered the mineral rights space when almost nobody else was in it, why mineral rights are one of the...

There are over 100 million lawsuits filed every single year in the United States and you are seven times more likely to face a lawsuit than to get into a car accident. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Hillel Presser, asset protection attorney, six-time author, and advisor who has protected over $11 billion in assets for celebrities, athletes, and business owners across the country. Hillel breaks down the single most powerful wealth protection principle the ultra-wealthy use, own nothing and control everything and exactly how to set up LLCs, trusts, and protective...

Most real estate investors know the fortune is in the follow-up but nobody on their team is actually getting deep enough into the pipeline to find it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Bill Beck, 15-year real estate veteran, wholesaler, and co-founder of Hey Rafi, an AI-powered follow-up tool built specifically for real estate investors. Bill breaks down how AI is transforming lead follow-up from a human bottleneck into a fully automated system that runs 24 hours a day, why most teams are only scratching the surface of their existing lead...

Billion dollar solar companies like Titan, SunPower, and SunNova collapsed almost overnight and most real estate investors and agents have no idea what that means for their deals. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Hung Nguyen, founder of Detach Reset Solar, who discovered one of the most overlooked niches in the entire real estate and home services space. Hung built a business around a single problem that nobody was solving, removing, storing, and reinstalling solar panels so roofing contractors could do their work and turned it into a blue ocean...

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Most people have been told the same thing their entire life, put your money in a 401k, invest in the stock market, follow the 4% rule, and hope you don't outlive your money. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Zach Richards, co-founder of REI Capital and private lender to real estate investors, to break down why savvy investors are moving money out of volatile markets and into real estate-backed private lending, how hard money lenders are failing borrowers at the worst...

Most real estate investors are stuck choosing between flipping for income and holding for wealth but 30-year industry veteran Aaron Chapman says you don't have to choose. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with Aaron Chapman, mortgage expert, real estate investor, and author, to break down how to run a flipping business and a holding portfolio simultaneously without coming out of pocket, how to use family trusts to protect and pass down real estate wealth across generations, and why the foundation you build your business on matters more than how fast...

In this episode, I sit down for the third time with the legendary Grant Cardone — real estate mogul, founder of Cardone Capital, and creator of the 10X movement — and this one is the most raw and strategic conversation we've ever had. Grant breaks down his brand-new Real Estate + Bitcoin hybrid fund model, explaining exactly why he's fusing institutional-quality multifamily properties with Bitcoin on the same balance sheet, and why REITs — despite managing hundreds of billions — simply cannot replicate what he's doing. We also get into the origin story of the 10X Growth Conference, why he's shutting it down and pivoting...

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Most real estate investors are leaving massive tax savings on the table and they don't even know it. In this episode of The M.O.R.E. Show, Justin Colby sits down with tax strategist and real estate investor Karlton Dennis to break down how the tax code can legally reduce what you owe to near zero, why gas stations are one of the most overlooked investment vehicles for depreciation, and how cost segregation and bonus depreciation are the tools wealthy investors use that most people never hear about.<...

In this episode, I sat down with 10-year mortgage industry veteran Sal Rizzolo, Branch Manager at New American Funding, to unpack what's really happening on the front lines of lending right now. We talked about how AI is rapidly automating cookie-cutter loans — and how companies like Freedom Mortgage and Better Mortgage are already racing to cut human loan officers out of the equation. But instead of treating that as a death sentence, Sal breaks down exactly how he and his team are future-proofing themselves by mastering the 203K renovation loan — an FHA product that lets buyers purchase and renovate a ho...

In this episode, I sit down with my guy Matt Porcaro — the founder of The 203K Way — who breaks down one of the most underutilized financing strategies in all of real estate: the FHA 203K renovation loan. Matt shares how he turned a $9,500 down payment into over $180,000 in equity in just eight months by purchasing a run-down Long Island duplex, wrapping the renovation costs directly into his mortgage, and living in one unit while the tenant in the other essentially covered his housing costs. We go deep on how this loan works for first-time buyers, existing homeowners who want to r...

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In this episode of The MORE Show, I sit down once again with my good friend and business partner Adam Williams, Founder and CEO of Elevest Capital, for a raw and real conversation about what it truly takes to build lasting wealth through real estate. I open up about one of the most pa...

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In this very first episode of The M.O.R.E. Show — which stands for Maximizing Opportunities in Real Estate — I'm sitting down with my business partner Adam Williams to share why I made the decision to walk away from The Science of Flipping after 13 years and thousands of episodes, and what we're building together with timeformore.com. Adam and I have a combined 40 years in real estate, and we've seen the market from every angle — flips, multifamily, commercial — and what we kept coming back to is a massive gap in the space: people have access to education, but almost n...

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In this episode, I sat down with Isabelle Guarino—aka the Boss Lady of Senior Living—to pull back the curtain on one of the most under-talked-about wealth-building strategies out there: residential assisted living (RAL). If you’re like me, deep in the real estate game but never touched senior housing, this episode is going to blow your mind. Isabel breaks down how you can create $10K, $20K, even $40K/month cash flow with one single-family home—without being a caregiver or medical profe...

Today I sits down with cost segregation expert Jeff Hiatt to reveal a powerful tax-saving strategy every real estate investor should know. With over 25 years of experience and 25,000+ cost seg studies completed, Jeff has helped clients save billions by accelerating depreciation and keeping more cash in their pockets.

We discuss how cost segregation works, who it benefits most, and how even small property owners can take advantage of it. From single-family homes to multi-unit apartments and commercial buildings, learn how this strategy can help you reduce or even eliminate your tax bill. Plus, Jeff explains bonus depreciation...

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In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sit down with land investing expert Robin Seib to break down one of the most overlooked and scalable strategies in real estate today: land flipping.

Robin went from burnout and running a construction company in Germany to building a U.S.-based land investing business that’s done over 1,300 deals and raised more t...

In this episode, I sit down with Mark Vincent Fansler, who went from carpenter to senior corporate executive, walked away from burnout, and built a vertically integrated commercial real estate empire operating across multiple states. We talk about the power of elite rooms, the vision he had at 17 that shaped his future, how one intentional conversation turned into a $120M opportunity, and why thinking bigger is the only way to win in business. This is a masterclass in community, commercial scale, and betting on yourself when no one else believes you deserve it.

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In this episode, I sat down with Bobby Kough, a West Point grad, former Army football player, and real estate operator who’s done over a thousand deals and is now running a direct-to-seller business pushing 300 deals a year. We broke down the “clear and reload” mindset he learned through sports psychology at West Point and how that reset tool translates perfectly to real estate when you’re getting rejected nonstop or taking hits on deals. Bobby shared how he started during COVID, how a quick early win gave him confidence, how one ugly “dumpster fire” house taught him the hard way...

In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sat down with Jason from MotivatedSellers.com, one of the top lead generation companies in the game. We got real about what it actually takes to convert a motivated seller lead—spoiler alert: it’s way more than a couple calls and a text. Jason breaks down why 27% of their leads close within a year, but 64% of those don’t go under contract until 90+ days after the lead comes in. We dive deep into real data, proper expectations, why follow-up is everything, and how you can stop blaming the leads and sta...

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In this episode, I sat down with Ari Page from Fund & Grow to break down how business owners and real estate investors are still accessing massive amounts of capital at 0% interest—even while rates keep climbing. We talked about how to use business credit cards the right way, how card stacking works, how to fund deals, payroll, marketing, and rehabs without touching your own cash, and why this strategy beats ha...

In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sit down with my good friend and business partner Adam Williams — a true real estate powerhouse who’s scaled from flipping hundreds of single-family homes to syndicating over 11,000 apartment units. Adam shares how a cockroach-filled childhood turned him off real estate — until a chance encounter pushed him to jump all in.

We break down why single-family rentals rarely build true wealth, why apartments are the ultimate cash-flow machine, and how syndications help everyday investors scale big without the headaches. Adam also drops powerful mindset lessons on clarity, purpose, and how t...

In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sat down with 33-year-old serial entrepreneur Alex Smereczniak, the founder of Franzy.com — what he calls the Zillow of franchising. Alex walked me through how franchising really works, why it’s far more accessible than people think, and how everyday entrepreneurs can build serious wealth through franchises, cash flow, and real estate. We talk about the hottest industries, the best opportunities, how to choose the right brand, and how the franchise + real-estate model can create multiple streams of income and even multi-million-dollar exits. This conversation opened my eyes to opportunities I di...

In this episode, I sit down with my longtime student and REI Live member Stacio, who recently made the bold decision to leave his government W2 engineering job and go all in on real estate investing. We dive into his journey from buying a few rentals over a decade to finally breaking through with a full-time virtual wholesale deal. He shares how he overcame fear, built daily habits, joined our community at REILive.co, and closed a deal that took months of consistent follow-up. This one’s for anyone who’s thinking about making the leap — the mindset, the action...

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In this episode of The Science of Flipping, Justin sits down with longtime REI Live member Joey Mack — an engineer who burned the boats, left his W-2 job, and built a portfolio managing over 130 units. Joey shares how he closed his first deal with no experience, why relationships outperform marketing, and the mindset that turned small wins into real wealth. They discuss imperfect action, follow-up systems, building a rental portfolio, and why “passive” income isn’t truly passive. If you’re ready to go from learning to earning, this episo...

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In this episode, I sat down with ADU expert Kevin Trinh, who’s built over 180 accessory dwelling units and is quietly dominating a niche that more real estate investors need to pay attention to. Kevin broke down exactly how to spot ADU potential, what cities allow this strategy, how to structure the financing, and the long-term wealth-buildi...

In this episode, I sit down with 24-year-old powerhouse Cameron Burke, and let me tell you — this guy is the real deal. With over $85M in retail sales, $8M+ in personal real estate holdings, and a team of 8 agents under his belt, Cameron has built a real estate empire using creative finance strategies — and he's just getting started. He opens up about his rough upbringing, how he started flipping cars and fridges in high school, and how his drive and hustle turned into a thriving business in Oklahoma City. We talk about everything from lease options, non-QM loans, and scal...

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In this episode, I sit down with Jayson Lowe of Ascendant Financial to uncover a wealth-building strategy that the rich have been using for decades—the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). We break down how banks are profiting off your money and why real estate investors and entrepreneurs should...