Wise Men Say
The longest-running Sunderland AFC podcast, established in 2013. Up to three shows a week including previews, reaction shows, live shows and feature-length episodes with quality articles live on wisemensay.co.ukTwitterFacebook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Bonus Pod: Expert Opinions on Diarra and Reinildo

Stephen catches up with Cyril Olives from L'Equipe and Jeremy Beren from That Atleti Pod to talk about Habib Diarra and Reinildo Mandava respectively.
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Wise Men Say Meet Peter Reid - Part 2

The second part of our wide-ranging chat with former Sunderland manager Peter Reid as we discuss his seven-year reign in charge of the Black Cats, including two promotions, our two best top-flight finishes in a generation and a heartbreaking play-off defeat.
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Wise Men Say Meet Peter Reid - Part 1

We meet up with former Sunderland manager Peter Reid and discuss his seven-year reign in charge of the Black Cats, including two promotions, our two best top-flight finishes in a generation and a heartbreaking play-off defeat.
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WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Terry Butcher

Think Terry Butcher.
Blood and bandages, Italia 90, Glasgow Rangers and their English invasion, Bobby Robson's Ipswich. He also played for and managed the lads - and, in 2019, he spoke to us as part of our Meet the Managers series.
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WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Malcolm Crosby

We've delved back into the archives to bring you the second in the Meet the Manager series - today, it's Malcolm Crosby's turn.
Malcolm speaks to us about his early career, how he ended up at his home town team and all about that fantastic 1992 FA Cup run.
This podcast was first released in 2018.
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WMS REPLAY: Meet the Managers - Denis Smith

We've delved into the archives to bring you the first in the Meet the Manager series where we speak to Denis Smith.
Denis talks us through his early years, how he came to be Sunderland manager, how he got Sunderland on the up again after relegation to the third tier for the first time in the club's history, that famous Newcastle Play-Off victory, our season in the top flight and that incredible day against Man City at Maine Road.
This podcast was first released in 2018.
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Discussing The Impact of Peter Reid

Stephen, Gareth and Andy Dawson look back at the generational impact that Peter Reid made to the club.
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MONDAY POD: Who can make the step up to the Premier League?

Stephen Goldsmith, Gareth Barker and Richard Easterbrook talk about the positions Sunderland will need to strengthen as they look forward to their return to the Premier League!
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Monday (Tuesday) Show: Actual Match Stuff W/Frankie Francis

Stephen and Gareth bring you the Monday Pod on a Tuesday. Lots of Wembley hysteria is still ongoing but here's some actual crack about the match. WMS alumni Frankie Francis returns.
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The WMS Wembley Diaries

The Wise Men Say team recorded their thoughts across a memorable weekend for Sunderland AFC, from setting off to London, heading to Trafalgar Square, pre-match feelings from the supporters we bumped into - and all of the celebrations across the capital afterwards.
Almost every current WMS member - plus some familiar faces - contributed to this in some way - probably the first time we've all been on a podcast together at the same time!
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REACTION: Sheffield United 1-2 Sunderland - Play-Off Final

WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE!!!
Eleanor McCabe presents from WMS' spiritual home in the capital, the Marquis Cornwallis, as Sunderland secured their return to the top flight after an eight-year absence with a barely-believable last-minute victory against Sheffield United at Wembley Stadium.
Eleanor is joined by Richard Easterbrook, Jonny Lambert and lots of others as we celebrate a momentous occasion.
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PREVIEW: Wembley Preview Part Two

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe, Jimmy Reay and special guest Matthew Keeling as excitement continues to build for Sunderland's Championship play-off final at Wembley Stadium. Tonight, the team talk about Regis Le Bris' selection decisions and what threat Sheffield United pose on Saturday.
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MONDAY SHOW: Wembley Preview Part One

Stephen and Gareth are joined by Andy Dawson to bring you the first of two pods where the WMS gang talk about Saturday. Oh and Rick pops his head in too.
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Post-Coventry Chat w/Rory Fallow

Stephen Goldsmith is joined by Richard Easterbrook and special guest, Sunderland AFC match announcer - and former Wise Men Say presenter - Rory Fallow.
The lads look back on the Coventry match in a little bit more detail while Rory answers your listener questions.
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REACTION: Sunderland 1-1 Coventry (AET, 3-2 on aggregate)

Eleanor and Mick bring you their reaction on one of the greatest nights the Stadium of Light has ever seen as Sunderland score in the last minute of extra-time to seal an aggregate victory over Coventry City - and with it their passage to the Championship play-off final at Wembley Stadium!
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PREVIEW SHOW: Sunderland and Coventry Round 2

How are your nerves? Sunderland proved lots of people wrong in the first leg but this tie is nowhere near done yet. Stephen, Gareth and Eleanor discuss the massive game on Tuesday.
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REACTION: Play-Offs - Coventry 1-2 Sunderland

Stephen and Mick react to the win over Coventry.
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PREVIEW SHOW: Coventry (A) Play-Offs, 1st Leg

Stephen, Gareth and Mick preview the 1st leg of our play-off tie against Coventry.
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MONDAY SHOW: Play-Off Bonanza

We got views and perspectives from the rest of the sides in this season's play-offs. We spoke to David from Forever Bristol City, Chad from The Red Half of Sheffield, and Simon from That Cov Pod.
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LIVE REACTION: Sunderland 0-1 QPR with Julio Arca

Stephen Goldsmith and Richard Easterbrook were live at The Fire Station after the QPR defeat and were joined by Sunderland legend Julio Arca! The lads discuss the final-day defeat to the Rs, look back at the season just concluded and share their play-off thoughts. There's also a good chat with Julio about his playing days at the Stadium of Light.
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WMS Meets Paul Hardyman

Okay, so we've actually spoken to him before but it was yonks ago. With it being play-off season (again) why not speak to a prevalent character from the 1990 semi-final against them lot?
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PREVIEW: QPR (H)

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Eleanor McCabe as they look ahead to Sunderland's final game of the regular season against QPR. They also look at the permutations around the final two play-off places beneath the Black Cats and reminisce about some previous end-of-season encounters.
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MONDAY SHOW: Oxford United 2-0 Sunderland

Stephen and Gareth are joined by We Are Sunderland's James Hunter to discuss our fourth defeat on the bounce.
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PREVIEW: Oxford United (A)

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay as the lads look ahead to Sunderland's first trip to Oxford in three years.
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REVIEW/PREVIEW: Easter Defeats and Oxford Preview with Phil Smith

Eleanor McCabe is joined by WMS contributor Jon Lambert and The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith to discuss the Easter fixtures and look ahead to the Oxford trip.
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PREVIEW: Sunderland's Easter Fixtures

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Jimmy Reay and We Are Sunderland's James Hunter ahead of Sunderland's Easter weekend fixtures, firstly at Bristol City on Good Friday and back home against Blackburn Rovers on Monday. There's also Bristol City insight from Bristol Live's Dan Carter.
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MONDAY SHOW: More on Sunderland's Situation with Phil Smith

Stephen and Gareth are joined by Phil Smith from the Sunderland Echo. They discuss the defeat to Swansea and the overall scenario Sunderland find themselves in.
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REACTION: Sunderland 0-1 Swansea City

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Michael Lough and Richard Easterbrook as Sunderland fall to a 1-0 defeat at home to Swansea City.
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PREVIEW: Sunderland v Swansea City

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Gareth Barker and Michael Lough as the lads react to Sunderland's 0-0 draw with Norwich, while previewing the visit of Swansea City!
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MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland Beat West Brom, Norwich Next

Stephen and Eleanor are joined by WMS alumni, Chris Weatherspoon, now at The Athletic. They look back at the 1-0 win at The Hawthorns and ahead to a trip to Norwich. Norwich perspective from Jack Wright from My Football Writer.
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PREVIEW SHOW: Sunderland V WBA, Au Revoir Watson

Gareth and Eleanor react to the news of Tommy Watson departing this summer and preview the trip to The Hawthorns.
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MONDAY SHOW: Sunderland beating Millwall and Midfielders at Right Back

Stephen and Rick look back at the win against Millwall. They also discuss the age-old Sunderland tradition of playing central midfielders at right back.
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REACTION: Sunderland 1-0 Millwall

Eleanor McCabe and Michael Lough bring you the reaction as Sunderland beat Millwall 1-0 at the Stadium of Light!
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PREVIEW SHOW: Sunderland face Millwall

After an arse-kicking at Coventry, The Lads face Millwall at home to try and get things back on track. Stephen is joined by Mick and Jim to go over it all.
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MONDAY SHOW: Coventry 3-0 Sunderland

Gareth Barker and Mick Lough discuss Sunderland's defeat at Coventry.
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PREVIEW: Coventry City v Sunderland

Richard Easterbrook and Jimmy Reay look back over Sunderland's 1-1 draw with Preston North End, while they preview the Black Cats' trip to Coventry City. Stephen Goldsmith catches up with Simon from That Cov Pod for the Sky Blues' perspective.
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MONDAY SHOW: Lee Howey on Sunderland beating Cardiff, Previews Preston

Stephen and Gareth are joined by former Sunderland Striker/Defender Lee Howey to discuss the Cardiff win and preview the visit of Preston. We also hear more on Preston from Lancashire Post reporter George Hodgson.
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REACTION: Sunderland 2-1 Cardiff City

Eleanor McCabe is joined by Richard Easterbrook to look back over Sunderland's 2-1 win over Cardiff City at the Stadium of Light
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PREVIEW: Sunderland v Cardiff City

Richard Easterbrook is joined by Michael Lough and Jimmy Reay as the lads look ahead to Sunderland's match against Cardiff City at the Stadium of Light.
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MONDAY SHOW: Sheff Wed 1-2 Sunderland

Stephen and Gareth discuss the 2-1 win at Hillsborough. Friday Night delights.
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