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By: Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu

Which night creams will make you look well-rested, is quitting coffee really worth the headache, can emptying your closet really bring you joy, and wtf is a gratitude practice, anyway? Co-hosts Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu explore these kinds of questions, with a big helping of humor and self-awareness. Together with weekly guests, they navigate what it means to care for ourselves as we get older — and hopefully wiser. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mini-Ep 484: When Your Vitamin C Serum Smells Like Soy Sauce
Today at 9:00 AM

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about their shampoo bar recs, what to do when your soft pants start to pill, and when to replace your Vitamin C serum. They also take on a tough existential question, so stick around.


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Episode 393: The Horrors Persist But I Have My Little Crafts with Elinor Cleghorn
Last Monday at 9:00 AM

Feminist cultural historian, researcher, and the author of A Woman’s Work: Reclaiming the Radical History of Mothering, Elinor Cleghorn, joins the show to discuss how to understand women’s lives when history is written by men, the records of historical women fighting for the right to have choices, and what her vision of a radical future on mothering looks like.  


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Mini-Ep 483: Soft Pants and Korean Skincare
03/11/2026

Listeners call in to ask about Elise’s favorite Korean skincare brands. Plus, they discuss non-pilly soft pants, tooth whitening routines, traveling with liquids, and more.  


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Episode 392: Probably Should Have Foam Rolled with Elaine Low
03/09/2026

Elaine Low, staff writer at The Ankler and a recreational tennis friend, joins the show to chat about whether award shows like The Oscars still matter, the way technology is rapidly changing Hollywood, and the advice she hears again and again.


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign...


Mini-Ep 482: Grow Where You’re Planted
03/04/2026

Doree reports on the playdate that started the decluttering and Elise gets to meet Rob’s high school friends. Then they hear from listeners who ask for advice on plants for a container garden and how to get started with a skincare routine. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and...


Episode 391: Just Try Stuff with Charlene Kaye
03/02/2026

Musician and comedian Charlene Kaye joins the show to talk about the sibling rivalry that led to her career choice, what she loves about analyzing pop songs, why she’s in Labiahead (her all-female Radiohead cover band), and her advice for people who want to explore their creative side.


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Mini-Ep 481: Weather Worry Vindication
02/25/2026

Doree is justified in her weather worries and Elise discusses some potential weather-related travel interruptions. They also hear from listeners about shows to watch, exercises for during IVF, and some Trader Joe’s beauty recs.


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the fr...


Episode 390: Red Lipstick Is a Neutral with Rachel Goodwin
02/23/2026

Rachel Goodwin is back with more great product recs and makeup wisdom from years of experience. Doree and Elise ask her listener questions about everything from the best blush for freckles and a tinted moisturizer to finding the right red lip, and how to transition a cat eye on an aging eye. They also discuss what Rachel is seeing in beauty trends and where she hopes makeup trends are headed. 


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Mini-Ep 480: Special Requests + Prod Recs
02/18/2026

Listeners call in with a request to hear more Doree’s Hotel, plus thoughts on going back to school as an adult and some great prod recs. 


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Episode 389: Strategy, Spirituality, and Space with Hillary Power
02/16/2026

Longtime friend of Doree and business doula Hillary Power joins the show to discuss what a business doula does, the connection between spirituality and business strategy, and the curious, quiet power of a women’s circle. Plus, Doree and Elise chat about the party full of Rob’s exes and the new book by Doree’s agent that they wish they’d had at the start of their careers.


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Mini-Ep 479: From Teeth to Toes
02/11/2026

Listeners call in with questions about how to handle teeth staining and IVF, and more recs from the community for comfy pants! Elise also shares an Oscar update, and Doree deals with a roof replacement.


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Episode 388: Lasting Change Within Us with Maya Shankar
02/09/2026

Dr. Maya Shankar, host of A Slight Change of Plans and author of the new book, The Other Side of Change, joins the show to discuss why change is so scary to us, how navigating it can lead to understanding yourself better, and how your identity should be based in a “why” not a “what.” 


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Mini-Ep 478: Change Your Mind, Change Your Life
02/04/2026

Doree prepares for her next tennis tournament in the desert and Elise marvels at the people she can meet when she works outside the house. Then, they hear from listeners about snoring solutions, the comfiest comfy pants, and the next “big thing” in life. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podca...


Episode 387: Romance On The Brain with Maurene Goo
02/02/2026

Repeat guest Maurene Goo is back on the show to share her secret to a well-styled closet, her transition from writing YA to adult romance with her new release One and Only, and the wild ride it’s been supporting her husband Chris Applehans (director of KPop Demon Hunters) through awards season. 


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Mini-Ep 477: A Few Good Pants Recs
01/28/2026

Doree and Elise hear from listeners about relaxing solutions to bacne and some very good advice on travel pants. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the free tier on Patreon!


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Episode 386: Asking Better Questions with Tonya Mosley
01/26/2026

Emmy award-winning journalist and the co-host of Fresh Air Tonya Mosley joins the show to discuss how intrinsic storytelling is to her life, the way leaning into our authentic selves makes for better work, and her pop culture recs of the moment. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and s...


Mini-Ep 476: From Butt-ne to Back-ne
01/21/2026

Doree and Elise answer questions about backne, airport joggers, and snoring, and listeners weigh in on how to break up with your therapist, hair loss treatments, and content creators with tangible skills.


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the free tier on...


Episode 385: So Many Podcast Recs with Lauren Passell
01/19/2026

Lauren Passell, the founder of Tink Media and author of Podcast the Newsletter, joins the show to recommend your next podcast listens from casual chat shows (like this one!) to true crime and everything in between. She also shares her thoughts on where podcasts are going and what she’s really digging in podcasts lately. 


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Mini-Ep 475: Breaking Up With Your Therapist Is Hard to Do
01/14/2026

Doree and Elise catch up on the state of the world and how they’re handling it. Then, they jump into listener voicemails about breaking up with your therapist who works in the same building, adult hobbies, and deciding whether to have more children.


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Po...


Episode 384: Righteous Anger and Weaponized Incompetence with Laura Danger
01/12/2026

No More Mediocre author Laura Danger joins Doree and Elise to discuss what equality in a partnership really looks like and granting yourself permission to feel righteous anger. They also chat about what a reimagined future could look like with a community-centered mindset.  


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Mini-Ep 474: The Big Questions
01/07/2026

Doree shares how her trip to Mexico went and Elise prepares to go to New York with her family. Then, they hear from listeners about the philosophical question of having children and advice on how to co-parent as a newly divorced parent.


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and...


Episode 383: The Joy of Adult Hobbies with Anne Helen Petersen | Culture Study Cross-Over Episode
01/05/2026

Doree and Elise are on a cross-over episode with Anne Helen Petersen’s Culture Study podcast! They chat about finding hobbies as an adult, what counts as a hobby, and how to logistically find a good hobby.


Listen to Culture Study for more episodes about “the culture that surrounds you.”


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Replay - Episode 340: How to Invest In Your Friendships with Rhaina Cohen
12/29/2025

We're taking a holiday break but, we'll be back next week. Please enjoy this timeless rerun from our friendship month earlier this year!

Elise prepares for her birthday weekend in Mexico City and Doree witnesses the perils of rain in LA! Then, they invite Rhaina Cohen, author of The Other Significant Others, on to discuss why prioritizing friendship doesn’t mean being anti-marriage, the power of “just ask” in building your relationship with new and old friends, the balance of showing up for and leaning on your friends, and how to more actively invest in existi...


Replay - Episode 351: Do Something, Somewhere, Soon with Stacey Abrams
12/24/2025

We're taking a break for the holidays, but please enjoy this well-loved episode with Stacey Abrams!


The unstoppable author and voting rights activist Stacey Abrams joins Doree and Elise to share her magnetic charisma and talk through the importance of pairing empathy with action, what it looks like to commit to the craft of imagination, and how to overcome fear in your daily life.


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Episode 382: Come Away Corrupted with Dr. Meghan Sullivan
12/22/2025

We want you to come away from this episode corrupted, in the best way, thanks to our guest Dr. Meghan Sullivan, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame. She joins Doree and Elise to discuss how to live “The Good Life,” and they get into everything from the beginning of democracy and the role philosophy played (and continues to play) in it, to virtue ethics and its relationship to work-life balance. She also gets existential with us about flourishing, happiness, and the vexing question about whether to have children.


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Mini-Ep 473: Holiday Traditions and Gift Giving
12/17/2025

Doree and Elise answer listener questions about their holiday traditions and what they’re gift giving. Plus, they get advice for the caller worried about officiating a friend’s wedding, and hear a listener’s reflections on the meaning of happiness.


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Episode 381: Learning a New Life with Jen Hatmaker
12/15/2025

Jen Hatmaker is back after living a lot of life since she was on Forever35 more than 5 years ago! She discusses her new book (Awake: A Memoir) about her life after her divorce, and looks back at her previous book (Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire), which came out just before she learned her husband of 26 years cheated on her. They touch on the relationship she and her kids have with religion and faith today, learning personal finance for the first time as a divorcee, and how she’s left the evangelical world behind. 


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Mini-Ep 472: Grape Popcorn and The Hairy Questions
12/10/2025

Listeners call in asking about advice for public speaking when you’re nervous, how to promote hair growth on your head, and figuring out how to have a happy life. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the free tier on Patreon!

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Episode 380: Sometimes Less Is More: A Dermatologist Takes Your Questions with Dr. Jenny Wang
12/08/2025

Dr. Jenny Wang, Founder of SoCal Skin and Surgery (and Elise’s dermatologist!), joins the pod to answer listener questions about skincare and busts some of the recent trending cosmetic procedure myths. She digs into why your skin suddenly rejects products you’ve used for years, how to deal with blackheads (aka sebaceous filaments), the not-so-secret to anti-aging, the legitimacy of exosomes, and so much more! 


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Mini-Ep 471: Berries From The Earth
12/03/2025

Doree and Elise hear from listeners with a suggestion for how to celebrate your Forever35 birthday, ways to plan financially with —  and for — your aging parents, and dueling views on how to handle berries after they’ve come home from the store. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up...


Episode 379: The 2025 Gift Guide
12/01/2025

‘Tis the season for the Forever35 Gift Guide! Doree and Elise get into the jewelry, crafts, games, home, beauty, and work gifts for everyone on your list for the 2025 holiday season.


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the free tier on Patreon!

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Replay - Ep 449: These Are a Few of Our Favorite Microjoys
11/26/2025

We're taking a little break for Thanksgiving but here's a favorite mini-ep of ours from earlier this year. Happy Thanksgiving, and we'll be back Monday as usual!


Doree and Elise share their recent microjoys and their thoughts on the Wirecutter Trader Joe’s list. They also hear from listeners about tennis-themed fashion, more great hair oil recs, and a tea towel throwback (and discount code).


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Yo Quiero Dinero Drops In On Forever35
11/24/2025

We're back with another Pod Swap! This time with one of our guests from our Money Month series earlier this year: Jannese Torres of Yo Quiero Dinero with her episode How To Financially Plan For Motherhood. 


You can find her podcast Yo Quiero Dinero wherever you listen to podcasts!


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Jannese Torres takes you through her journey of stepping into motherhood while juggling entrepreneurship—and how she financially prepared for this life-changing chapter.


She breaks down the key steps she took to plan for maternity leave, build a mat...


Mini-Ep 470: Teach Me Your Frugal Ways
11/19/2025

In this grab bag mini-ep, listeners send in their commentary on aging parents, Australian pop-culture recs, and shift work. Plus, Doree and Elise talk about money-saving hacks and Elise discusses her teen modeling years. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the free t...


Episode 378: Don’t Leave Home Without Your Sunbrella with Mari Yamamoto
11/17/2025

Actor and writer Mari Yamamoto (Pachinko, Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, Rental Family) joins Doree and Elise to discuss her new film, Rental Family, and how it opens the conversation about the loneliness crisis in the digital age. Plus, they get into Mari and Elise’s time together in Tokyo, her deep commitment to the parasol as a sun shade, and why she went from being a reporter to being an actor multihyphenate. 


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Mini-Ep 469: Return of the MAC
11/12/2025

Doree and Elise share listener thoughts on Sephora finally carrying MAC products, senior care in America, and the prevalence of workplace burnout for women. 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at the free tier on Patreon!

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Episode 377: Teeing It Up with Hilary Lassoff
11/10/2025

We’ve got a golfer on the show! Hilary Lassoff, Founder of Bunker Club – a golf-centered social club for women, queers and underrepresented voices – joins the pod to talk about all things community, sports, and how coaching can change the way you feel about a sport with Doree and Elise. 


Plus, we did it! The Forever35 (aka YOUR) Giving Circle investments helped us make Virginia the country’s newest pro-democracy trifecta! Thank you to everyone who was able to donate! And thank you to everyone who voted, went door-knocking, or in any way engaged civically this election


Mini-Ep 468: When You “Don’t Fit”
11/05/2025

Doree and Elise reflect on how much the topic of parents getting older has resonated with listeners. Then listeners send in their thoughts on jobs and identity, tips for continuing to help your aging parents, and the strange lens we still view weight through in the U.S.


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Episode 376: Women, Texting, Talking with Kate Baer
11/03/2025

Poet and author Kate Baer returns to the pod four years later (almost to the day!) to discuss her latest collection, How About Now?, the ways she keeps intimacy alive within her friendships, and what she enjoys about living in the country.


Plus, Doree gives us the play-by-play on her recreational tennis team’s dramatic trip to National Championships in Scottsdale!



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Mini-Ep 467: We Can Relate
10/29/2025

Listeners share thoughts on our recent guest Vanessa Grigoriadis’ episode on aging parents, offer ideas for how to support a friend going through IVF, and advice for switching careers without spending a ton of money (and maybe even with the help of AI?). Plus, Doree has a triumphant tennis update! 


To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Fol...