DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling

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By: Bret Fisher

Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show with co-host Nirmal Mehta. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Swarm, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, platform engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info available at https://podcast.bretfisher.com

Backup S3, Google Drive, iCloud, Notion with Plakar
#192
Yesterday at 10:48 PM

Bret is joined by the founders of Plakar - Julien Mangeard and Gilles Chehade - to nerd out over backup engineering. The kind where you're building your own file formats and cryptographic layers, not just wiring up cron jobs. We get into how Plakar deduplicates and encrypts at the source so your cloud provider never sees your keys. Also, their snapshot model has no chain dependencies, which means you can delete any backup without breaking the others. We had a fun hour of backup horror stories, ransomware pragmatism, where I'm lobbying hard for a Docker volume integration.

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Your Images are Out of Date (probably) - The Silent Rebuilds problem
#191
03/04/2026

Container base images (like Official Docker Hub images) are often updated without new tag versions. I call this Silent Rebuilds. There's no way to know this happens without image digest-checking automation like Dependabot and Renovate with specific settings. Failure to keep up-to-date is a prime source of vulnerabilities that can lead to serious security breaches. Automate the updates!

Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/z_ahbsSc4Fo

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AI Wins and Misses for 2025
#190
02/17/2026

I'm joined by Nirmal Mehta of AWS and Viktor Farcic from Upbound, to go through our 2025 year in review. We look into the AI tools that consumed us this year, from CLI agents to terminal emulators, IDEs, AI browsers - what worked, what flopped, what's worth your time and money, and what we think isn't!

Check out the video podcast version here:
https://youtu.be/mnagfUsh5bc

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Find Your K8s Happy Path with RawKode Academy
#189
01/23/2026

I talk with David Flanagan, aka Rawkode, about his new opinionated Tech Matrix that helps you navigate the overwhelming CNCF landscape. https://rawkode.academy/technology/matrix

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Move K8s Stateful Pods Between Nodes
#188
10/09/2025

Bret is joined by Philip Andrews and Dan Muret of Cast AI to discuss pod live migration between nodes in a Kubernetes cluster.

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Cast AI dynamically moves your pod to a different node without downtime or data l...


Swarm 2030. Let's Go!
#187
08/20/2025

Bret discusses exciting news about Swarm being maintained until 2030.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾


In this episode, I give an update on the future of Docker Swarm, the renewed long-term support and ongoing development from Mirantis. The news should be reassuring for yo...


Is Docker Building the Best AI Stack?
#186
08/12/2025

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Michael Irwin to discuss Docker's comprehensive AI toolkit, covering everything from local model deployment to cloud-based container orchestration across multiple interconnected tools and services.

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We run through almost the entire Docker...


Could AI End Human QA?
#185
07/29/2025

Bret is joined by Andrew Tunall, the President and Chief Product Officer at Embrace, to discuss his prediction that we’ll all start shipping non-QA'd code (buggier code in production) and QA will need to be replaced with better observability.

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AI Agents Running Containers
#184
07/01/2025

The Daytona founders - Ivan Burazin and Vedran Jukic - discuss their pivot to an AI agent cloud.
We dig into the new infrastructure requirements of developing agents that need their own sandboxes to operate in.

A year ago, we had them on to talk about Daytona giving us remote development environments for humans, and they have now pivoted the company to focusing on providing cloud hosting environments for AI agents to operate.

I suspect this is something we're all gonna eventually need to tackle as we work to automate more of our software...


Heroku + MCP = The Fastest Way to Run AI Agents in the Cloud
#183
06/06/2025

Julián Duque from Heroku joins me to explain and demo their new AI platform.

Check out the video podcast version here https://youtu.be/BGqlLZHdRDs

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Is AI ready for DevOps?
#182
06/04/2025

Launching our new Podcast: https://agenticdevops.fm
Bret and Nirmal are at KubeCon London and record their ideas about how AI Agents will change DevOps, platform engineering, SRE, automation, troubleshooting, and more.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

Creators & Guests

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What you missed at KubeCon
#181
05/24/2025

At KubeCon EU 2025 in London, Nirmal and I discussed the important (and not-so-important) things you might have missed.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

There's also a video version of this show on YouTube.

Creators & Guests

Cristi Cotovan - Editor...


Docker Model Runner
#180
04/21/2025

Docker launched "Docker Model Runner" to run LLMs through llama.cpp with a single "docker model" command. In this episode Bret details examples and some useful use cases for using this way to run LLMs. He breaks down the internals. How it works, when you should use it or not use it; and, how to get started using Open WebUI for a private ChatGPT-like experience.

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What's Coming in 2025?
#179
03/26/2025

This episode is about what I'm seeing and what I'm doing right now, and then for the rest of the year. There are three parts. First, I talk about what's about to happen for me for the next few weeks re going to London for KubeCon. Then what I'm planning to change in this podcast, as well as my other content on YouTube for the rest of the year. And lastly, I talk about some industry trends that I'm seeing that will force me, I think, to change the format of this show. I recorded the episode on March 22, 2025.<...


Docker Build the best way with Docker Bake
#178
03/24/2025

The Docker Bake Build tool just went general availability, and I'm excited about what this means for creating reproducible builds and automation that can run anywhere. In this video I'm gonna break down some of the features, the benefits and walk through some examples.

In this episode I explain why docker buildx bake exists, what it can do, and I walk through multiple examples of Bake files and how it's better than docker build image and docker compose build. I also touch on BuildKit and Docker's GitHub Actions.

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Is Swarm at EOL?
#177
02/06/2025

I've been a big fan of Swarm since it was launched over a decade ago and I've made multiple courses on it that still sell. But, we recently got some news out of Mirantis that might be bad news. So I talked about it last week on my live stream.


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Best of Cloud Native 2024
#176
01/10/2025

Bret and Nirmal reunite for their traditional annual Holiday Special episode of breaking down the most significant developments in cloud native from 2024 and sharing predictions for 2025.

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Aikido: Is a Single DevSecOps Tool Possible?
#175
12/27/2024

Or watch the video version on YouTube. Bret is joined by Willem Delbare and Roeland Delrue to discuss Aikido, a security tool consolidation platform designed specifically for smaller teams and solo DevOps practitioners.

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The discussion explores how Aikido...


DevOps Cert Prep using AI, with the KodeKloud Team
#174
12/13/2024

Bret is joined by Mumshad Mannambeth and Vijin Palazhi of KodeKloud for Q&A on what we should be studying and certifying for in 2025.
 

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾


This episode is chalked full of information. We talked about the CNCF Kubestr...


KubeCon Engineering Takeaways
#173
11/29/2024

Bret and Nirmal recorded this special offline episode at KubeCon North America in Salt Lake City. We hung out at the AWS booth to break down the major trends and developments from the conference. 

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The event drew a recor...


Personal AI with Ken Collins
#172
11/15/2024

Bret and Nirmal Mehta are joined by Ken Collins to dig into using AI for more than coding, and if we can build an AI assistant that knows us.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

They touch on a lot of tools and platfo...


State of Kubernetes UIs
#171
10/18/2024

Bret explores the spectrum of user interfaces and tools available for managing Kubernetes clusters as of Autumn 2024.

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This solo episode touches on both paid and open-source options, looking at their features, benefits, and drawbacks. Key tools covered includ...


Inspektor Gadget
#170
09/20/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Chris Kühl and Jose Blanquicet, the maintainers of Inspektor Gadget, the new eBPF-focused multitool, to see what it's all about.

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Inspektor Gadget, aims to solve some serious problems with managing Linux k...


MLOps for DevOps People
#169
09/06/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Maria Vechtomova, a MLOps Tech Lead and co-founder of Marvelous MLOps, to discuss the obvious and not-so obvious differences between a MLOps Engineer and traditional DevOps jobs.

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Maria is here to discus...


Traefik 3.0: What's New?
#168
08/23/2024

Bret and Nirmal were joined by Emile Vauge, CTO of Traefik Labs to talk all about Traefik 3.0.

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We talk about what's new in Traefik 3, 2.x to 3.0 migrations, Kubernetes Gateway API, WebAssembly (Cloud Native Wasm), HTTP3, Tailscale, OpenTelemetry, and mu...


Debug Containers with Mintoolkit
#167
08/09/2024

Bret is joined by DockerSlim (now mintoolkit) founder Kyle Quest, to show off how to slim down your existing images with various options.

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The slimming down includes distroless images like Chainguard Images and Nix. We also look at usi...


Observability Cost-Savings and eBPF Goodness with Groundcover
#166
07/26/2024

Bret is joined by Shahar Azulay, Groundcover CEO and Co-Founder, to discuss their new approach to fully observe K8s and its workloads with a "hybrid observability architecture."

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

Groundcover is a new, cloud-native, eBPF-based platform that designed a new...


Flow State with VS Code AI
#165
07/12/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Continue.dev co-founder, Nate Sesti, to walk through an open source replacement for GitHub Copilot.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

Continue lets you use a set of open source and closed source LLMs in JetBrains and VSCode...


AWS Graviton: The Great Arm Migration
#164
06/28/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Michael Fischer of AWS to discuss why we should use Graviton, their arm64 compute with AWS-designed CPUs.

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Graviton is AWS' term for their custom ARM-based EC2 instances. We now have all major...


Local GenAI LLMs with Ollama and Docker
#163
06/14/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by friend of the show, Matt Williams, to learn how to run your own local ChatGPT clone and GitHub Copilot clone with Ollama and Docker's "GenAI Stack," to build apps on top of open source LLMs.

We've designed this conversation for tech people like myself, who are no strangers to using LLMs in web products like chat GPT, but are curious about running open source generative AI models locally and how they might set up their Docker environment to develop things on top of these open source LLMs.

🙌 My...


Kubernetes Observability with Site24x7
#162
05/31/2024

Bret is joined by Jasper Paul and Vinoth Kanagaraj, observability experts and Site24x7 Product Managers, to discuss achieving end-to-end visibility for applications on Kubernetes infrastructure. We answer questions on all things monitoring, OpenTelemetry, and KPIs for DevOps and SREs.

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K2D by Portainer
#161
05/17/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Neil Cresswell and Steven Kang from Portainer to look at K2D, a new project that enables us to leverage Kubernetes tooling to manage Docker containers on tiny devices at the far edge.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/wai...


Chainguard: Building Secure Container Images
#160
05/03/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Dan Lorenc from Chainguard to walk them through Chainguard's approach to building secure, minimal container images for popular open source software.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

They discuss why it is important to have secure and mi...


AWS Finch: The Minimal Local Container Solution
#159
04/19/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Phil Estes of AWS to show us the Finch project, which bundles the best open source tools for building and running containers locally. Now it runs on macOS and Windows WSL2.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

We'v...


Portainer for Kubernetes, Docker, Swarm, Edge, and IoT
#158
04/05/2024

Bret is joined by Neil Cresswell, CEO and co-founder of Portainer, to show us new features in Portainer and how it can manage, deploy, and orchestrate all your container workloads from a single Docker Engine, all the way to multi-cluster and IoT Kubernetes deployments.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the cou...


Open Source Codespaces with Daytona
#157
03/22/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Ivan Burazin and Chad Metcalf to debut Daytona, an open source "codespaces equivalent."

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

Daytona is a development environment manager designed to automate all the tedious steps a developer needs to perfor...


Postgres in Containers
#156
03/08/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Lukas Fittl of pganalyze to dive into Postgres in containers, in production, and in CI.

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Lukas is an expert and founder of pganalyze, and I invited him on the show to exp...


Best of DevOps 2023
#155
02/23/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Melissa McKay, Developer Advocate at JFrog and Docker Captain, to discuss the best and worst of 2023.

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We recorded this episode in December of 2023 where we talked through our favorite tools. Whethe...


Faster Dev Feedback and Previews with Livecycle
#154
02/09/2024

Bret is joined by Matan Mishan & Roy Razon of Livecycle to discuss developer platforms and how to improve developer collaboration and speeding up feedback and previews.

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We talk about the various delays encountered in pull requests due to...


Docker Recap of 2023
#153
01/26/2024

Bret and Nirmal are joined by Michael Irwin, DevRel at Docker, to talk about all the products and features Docker shipped in 2023, and what's coming in early 2024.

🙌 My next course is coming soon! I've opened the waitlist for those wanting to go deep in GitHub Actions for DevOps and AI automation. I'm so thrilled to announce this course. The waitlist allows you to quickly sign up for some content updates, discounts, and more as I finish building the course. https://www.bretfisher.com/waitlist🍾

Michael has been on this show many times as a Dock...