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#272: Part 2: From Seed to Unicorn - The Esusu Journey with Samir Goel

Join us on a special Brunch and Budget bonus episode as Dyalekt and Pam dive into the remarkable journey of Esusu, the company that evolved from digital sousus to a groundbreaking credit-building platform. In this two-part series, we bring you an exclusive interview with Samir Goel, the co-CEO of Esusu, who shares the story of their pivot and the mission to bridge the racial wealth gap.
Discover how Esusu leverages rental data to empower individuals in building credit, challenging the conventional credit system. Samir unveils the company's innovative approach, focusing on the b2b side to make...
#271: Part 1: From Seed to Unicorn - The Esusu Journey with Samir Goel

Join us on a special Brunch and Budget bonus episode as Dyalekt and Pam dive into the remarkable journey of Esusu, the company that evolved from digital sousus to a groundbreaking credit-building platform. In this two-part series, we bring you an exclusive interview with Samir Goel, the co-CEO of Esusu, who shares the story of their pivot and the mission to bridge the racial wealth gap.
Discover how Esusu leverages rental data to empower individuals in building credit, challenging the conventional credit system. Samir unveils the company's innovative approach, focusing on the b2b side to make...
#270 Bonus: Weird Finance - First Generation Wealth Building with Pamela Capalad, CFPÂŽ, AFCÂŽ

In this episode of Weird Finance, Paco talks to Pamela Capalad about the path to becoming a financial planner, building a financial literacy program for kids, the unique struggles first-generation folks have with navigating wealth building, her holistic approach to financial planning and Sea Change, a financial planning service specifically for people of color.
Pamela Capalad (@brunchandbudget) is a Certified Financial Planner⢠and Accredited Financial Counselor⢠and has been in financial services since 2008. She founded Brunch & Budget to help people who felt ashamed or embarrassed about money have a safe place to make real financial progress. Pam has...
#269 BONUS: Dyalekt featured on Caribbean Rhythms Radio HIP HOP FINFEST 2023

In this special episode, Dyalekt gets interviewed on Caribbean Rhythms Radio Network about Hip Hop FinFest 2023
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#268: Beyond Brunch: Get Shameless About Your Money

Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to Financial Legacy so you have clear action steps for what to do at every stage of...
#267: Money Can Buy Happiness Part 3 - Breaking The Shame Spiral

Featuring an interview with
Dedrick Asante-Mohammad the chief of membership policy and equity at NCRC
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NCRC Website
Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
...
#266: Money Can Buy Happiness Part 2 - What does happiness really feel like?

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You Can Buy HappinessÂ
By Dyalekt and Warren Britt
Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to Financial Lega...
#265: Money Can Buy Happiness Part 1 - Does Freedom = Happiness?

You Can Buy Happiness
from This Is Your Life (Original Version) by Adult Cinema
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through...
#264: Paperwork Part 3: Paperwork at every financial stage

I Barely Know How to Dress Myself
from Paperwork by Swordplay
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 St...
#263: Paperwork Part 2: Recipe for getting through paperwork

Paperwork
from Semicolon Concentrate by Bane MC
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to Financial Legacy so...
#262: Paperwork Part 1: Itâs not you, itâs the paperwork

Featured Song - Gettahead
from No Paperwork by L.A.Z
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 St...
#261: How much is enough Part 3: How much is enough at each stage

Featured Song - Enough
From Penstroke Of Genius By Mallz
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to...
#260: How much is enough Part 2: Recipe for calculating your ideal income

Featured Song - Enough
by Lhagic
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Featuring an interview with
Dedrick Asante-Mohammad the chief of membership policy and equity at NCRC
Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.
NCRC Website
Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship...
#259: How Much Is Enough, Part 1: Do you really need $100 million?

Featured Song - Enough
by Leila Rhodes
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to Financial Legacy so...
#258: Inflation Part 3 - Deal with inflation at every financial stage

Featured Song - Inflation
from Inflation by Johnny Osbourne, Cultural Warriors, The Disciples,
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch...
#257: Inflation Part 2 - Recipe for fighting inflation

Featured Song - INFLATION
from WAIT by herrotics
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to Financial Le...
#256: Inflation Part 1 - Where does inflation come from?

Featured Song - Inflate (Live)
from Catallabs (Live) by sonny miles
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Featuring an interview with
Dedrick Asante-Mohammad the chief of membership policy and equity at NCRC
Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.
NCRC Website
Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the...
#255: Savings Part 3 - How to save at every financial stage

Featured Song -Â Savings
from INDIGNATION by Indigo Ali
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to Fin...
#254: Savings Part 2 - Recipe to save your first $1k

Featured Song - Saving
from Fresh Air EP by DeeRiginal
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you through Brunch & Budgetâs 5 Stages to...
#252: Savings Part 1 - Why no one cares about saving

Featured Song - Saving
from Trickle Down Destruction by A7MC x Dethwzrd
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Featuring an interview with
Dedrick Asante-Mohammad the chief of membership policy and equity at NCRC
Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.
NCRC Website
Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you...
#252 BONUS: Get Shameless about money

Featured Song - Shameless
by POUNDS
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Special Episode - Get Shameless About Your Money
As we enter a recession, it's easy to feel like you're the one who failed, when in fact, there was no way to predict what was going to happen in the future.
"I should have prepared more..."
"I should have saved more..."
"I should have known that my job was going to fire me..."
We're here to remind you that you're not wrong,
You're not stupid,<...
#251: Recessions Part 3: Handling recessions at every financial stage

Featured Song - Recession On
from Rain Shine by Luke Rain
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Featuring an interview with
Dedrick Asante-Mohammad the chief of membership policy and equity at NCRC
Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.
NCRC Website
Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the t...
#250: Recessions Part 2: recipe for recession-proofing your finances

Song Featured - Recession Proof
from No Lotion 2: The Great Repression by Ashy L Bowz
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Season 2 of the Brunch & Budget podcast will share 3 part arcs of big topics:
Part 1 is KNOW - what are the key things you need to understand about the topic, the bigger systemic picture around it, and where the racial wealth divide fits in
Part 2 is FEEL - how do you integrate the topic into your personal relationship with money and unpack the behaviors, reactions, and habits around it
Part 3 is DO - we take you...
#249: Recessions Part 1: Recessions Are Racist

Song featured - Recession
from Hometown Herverts by A. Harmony, DijahSB & pHoenix Pagliacci
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Surprise! Weâre back, and so is the looming possibility of a recession. Some folks say itâs inevitable, some say we still have time to prevent it.
But, what the heck is it? How do we know weâre in a recession? Is there some kind of announcement?
In part 1 of our Recessions arc, we share what a recession is, what the indicators are, who is most affected by it (3 guesses) and the ways past recess...
#248: Brunch & Budget Season 2 Trailer

Feat. DREAM by Dyalekt & Dedrick Asante-Muhammad
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May 2021. That was the last time we posted a podcast episode. One of our most favorite, nourishing, life giving things we did gave way to the weight of⌠everything else.
We had a false start in January of this year. We recorded a segment with our favorite regular guest, Dedrick Asante-Muhammad, and he rocked it of course. But then the pressure to be âgoodâ got to me. Every segment we recorded didnât sound right. We were out of practice and forgot why it was fun in the f...
#247: PREACH: Has the Racial Wealth Divide Been Co-Opted?

Has talking about the racial wealth divide become conversational quicksand, where we think that people talking about it are considering the problem in its totality and actually trying to solve it but they're actually applying a band aid to a gaping wound by saying the right words so we keep buying their products(looking at you Apple)?This week we're joined by Dedrick Asante-Muhammad for another PREACH episode and we took a deep dive into corporations and the racial wealth divide. We talked about authenticity, what systemic racism actually means, and how the feeling of being personally racist factors...
#246: The Unavoidable Tax Talk with Darren Liddell

It's time for our annual tax episode! This year, we sit down with Darren Liddell, one of our See Change coaches and a seasoned tax preparer (he shows off his 10 year VITA pin on the show!) who breaks down taxes through a news lens. By the end of the episode, you'll learn how to take advantage of the tax changes during COVID (and make sure you get that stimulus payment!), how to maximize your deductions, the biggest tax mistakes people make, and why refunds are actually a total scam.
Music Featured in this episode:
Stay [Income...
#245: It's Not that You're Lazy, It's That They're Lying to You

You know the Lazy Susan(tm)? The mini Gravitron where your sauces or spices turn for everyone at the table? Why is it lazy, and Why Susan? Markus Krajewski, professor of Media History at University of Basel, Switzerland, and author of The Server: A Media History from the Present to the Baroque says, "In all probability, Susan was a generic name rich homeowners addressed their maidservants with through the 18th century. "Laziness was a common complaint against servants (at the time), so âlazy Susan' must have been a usual term since the 18th century,"
THESE ASSHOLES HAVE BE...
#244: Why We're Still A Segregated Nation

Why Desegregation Didn't Work
They used to be lying, stealing, screaming f*ck your feelings
Now theyâre crying, pleading for unity and healing
History is written by the richer, not the winners
Weâre seeing it happen as we tweet
History tells us that desegregation fixed America
It admits that separate was never equal
As if separation was Americaâs only evil
Racial discrimination is like a nuclear bomb
Communities that arenât destroyed by explosion
Often end up dying by fallout
The...
#243: The Racist History of Insurance & Why You Need It Anyway

Hey there,
It's Black History Month, and we're always ready to call out some sh*t about the finance industry. Here's some f*cked up history for you:
The history of insurance is racist.
NY Life started in the 1800's by insuring enslaved Africans lives - if a slave died, the insurance company would pay the slavemaster for their life. Fastforward to the 80's and 90's when Walmart started buying "dead peasant" life insurance policies where if an employee died, Walmart got paid out. POC have always had a complicated relationship with insurance...
#242: Gamestop, Short Stocks & the Smoking Barrel

So whatâs going on with this GameStop thing?
Did Reddit take down a multi-billion dollar hedge fund?
Whatâs a hedge fund?
If youâve been hearing about GameStop nonstop for the last few days and want to know all the drama and what it might mean for the stock market as a whole and your personal investments, join us today at 2pm EST to learn all about it. We invited back Kevin Matthews of Building Bread to help us break down what the heck happened, all the investment terms you need to know and di...
#241: You CAN Knock the Hustle

We don't know about you, but we're tired of hearing out of touch celebrity millionaires (looking at you, Diddy) who keep telling us we should have been hustling even harder in the middle of a global pandemic. We are TIRED! But more importantly, hustle culture prevents us from interrogating the system of oppression it was built upon. Instead of advocating for our own labor/worker rights, we're pitted against each other. Instead of giving ourselves space to rest and recharge, we feel forced to work until burnout.
Hustle does not equal abundance. Hustle only...
#240: The Stimmy Hits Back + Prop 22 + PPP Loans

Music Feature in This Episode
Payroll Taxes by IM-POWER-MEANT ENT PRESENTS $HO Montega
Stimmy (Stimulus Checks)- by Stimmy Gawd feat L'Daialogue DiCaprio
Living Wage by Aveli Amun
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#239: Pros & Cons of Workers Co-Ops w/ Ajoke Williams & Anh-Thu Nguyen

As part of our COVID-19 relief and business saving efforts, DAWI is launching a hotline this month for small businesses, especially in communities of color, interested in converting to worker ownership, and we're doing it in partnership with NYC Department of Small Business Services.
Music Featured in This Episode:
Better Together by Liberty Jones
Cooperative DVA by cooperative DVA
Workers United (will overcome) by Eve
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#238: What if you could create your ideal bank?

How many of us really love our bank? It feels like an entity that we have to do business with but always begrudgingly and always with a hint of how are they going to screw me over this time? In this episode we talk about this history of banking and how it got to be this way through various acts of deregulation and how we can ask our banks to do better.
Music Featured in This Episode:
Better by Sivion, Dre Murray, Sojourn
Make It Better by NjBred
Better Business by Blickaz
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#237: Slavery Never Ended Part 2: Wage Theft

Parisian poet Anatole France said "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.â
He was poeting about how laws penalize desperate actions borne of need while largely ignoring crimes inspired by greed. We've all heard stories about people spending years in prison or being killed for stealing food, while corporations that rob employees of breaks and overtime pay get off with a fine. We always assumed the corporations got off easy due to a combination of hiring expensive lawyers and th...
#236: How to invest in yourself without spending a dime.

We are talking about how to invest in yourself without spending money and what is investing in yourself vs. self care? Where do we start with investing in ourselves and what does that even really mean?
Music Featured in This Episode:
In Yourself by Zo! + Asylum 7
Believe In Yourself by SisterSara featuring Awa Fall
Free Yourself (extrait) by NY.KO
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#235: Does your salary reflect your value?

MJ from Advisory Avenue joins us for this episode to talk about knowing your worth, how, why and when you should go to HR, approaching and preparing yourself to have "the raise" conversation and really proving and showing your value to a company during a pandemic!
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#234: When it comes to investments, all times are uncertain w/ Kevin Matthews

We were so happy to have Kevin Matthews on the show to explain how to think about investing during the pandemic and create an investment plan that weathers all uncertain times.
Music Featured in This Episode:
Making Bread by Xi
Basty & Farky-Investitii (Investment) by Basty
Makin' Bread by Sir Kn8
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#233: Free money for freelancers... but hurry! PPP loan deadline on 8/8!

One more episode on PPP and EIDL loans before the PPP loan deadline passes. Take a listen!
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