Heads and Tails

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By: Kate + Jay White

Heads and Tails is a candid, heartfelt and often humorous podcast hosted by longtime couple Jay and Kate White.. ...a psychologist and an OB/GYN who've been married for 26 years. Named for their dual perspectives on the mind and body, this show dives into the real challenges of midlife with warmth, wisdom, and occasional glass of wine. ​ From navigating midlife dating or keeping the spark alive in long-term relationships, to launching kids, caring for aging parents, maintaining friendships, and even changing careers — Heads and Tails covers it all. With Jay's insight into the psychological and Kate's expertise in the physical, each...

Ep. 15: Dr. Mary Claire Haver: Lose the Filter, Keep the Muscle: The Menopause Plan for the Next 30 Years
Today at 5:00 AM

Midlife is not a crisis—it's a recalibration. In this special episode of Heads & Tails, Dr. Kate White is joined by menopause expert Dr. Mary Claire Haver for a candid, science-forward conversation that clears the noise around perimenopause and menopause and replaces it with a practical plan for the next three decades of your health.

 

You'll hear the "inside scoop" on Dr. Haver's prevention-first framework (including her "nursing home prevention plan" mindset) and how Dr. White applies the pillars of lifestyle medicine to help patients protect their body composition, brain health, energy, and mood—without perfe...


Episode 14: Shedding 5 types of Toxic Relationships: A Guide to a Drama Free New Year
01/02/2026

New year, fresh standards. In this episode of Heads & Tails, we tackle one of the most powerful (and challenging) forms of midlife recalibration: shedding toxic relationships. Not every hard relationship is toxic—and not every toxic relationship is obvious. We walk through five common toxic relationship types, the red flags that signal you're in one, and how to decide whether it's time for repair, distance, or a clean break.

You'll learn how to assess the real cost of staying—emotionally, physically, and relationally—and how to get out without getting pulled back in. Whether it's a part...


Episode 13: Eggnog & Etiquette: The Southern Playbook for Dodging Drama at Family Functions.
12/19/2025

The holidays have a way of bringing out the best in people… and also the comments they should've kept in their pocket. In this episode of Heads and Tails, Kate and Jay tackle how to stay grounded when you're navigating family gatherings, in-laws, friend groups, and even your "work family" at the holiday party—without losing your composure or your mind.

 

We keep it practical, playful, and politely Southern: how old roles creep back in, why "well-meaning" remarks can hit sideways, and what to do in the moment when you feel your blood pressure rising under...


Episode 12: Residency to Menopause Revolution: The Havers & The Whites on Growing Together in Midlife
11/28/2025

What happens when your residency buddy becomes the global voice of menopause—and you've both spent 27 years growing up, growing families, and growing careers side by side?

 

In this episode of Heads & Tails, Kate and Jay sit down with long-time friends Dr. Mary Claire Haver and Chris Haver for a deeply personal conversation about medicine, marriage, and what it means to evolve together over decades.

 

Today, Dr. Mary Claire Haver is a superstar in menopause education and nutrition—

author of The New Menopause and The Galveston Diet, and the force...


Episode 11: Laugh Lines & Life Lines: Midlife with Chuck Nice
11/21/2025

Guest: Chuck Nice — comedian, lifelong science lover, and long-time co-host of the award-winning StarTalk Podcast with astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson (@startalkradio)

Hosts: Dr. Kate Schuh White & Jay White, LMFT

 

This week on Heads & Tails, we welcome the incomparable Chuck Nice, whose rare blend of insight, science curiosity, and razor-sharp humor makes him the perfect guide through the messy, magical middle of life.

 

Together, we dive deep into midlife's biggest questions — with equal parts honesty, heart, and hilarity:

 

🎭 What it's really like to be in a relationsh...


Episode 10: Opposites Attract- then collide. Stop Fighting About What Once Made You Fall in Love
11/06/2025

You fell in love with their spontaneity, their energy, their calm, their structure — whatever it was that balanced you out. But fast forward a decade (or two), and those same traits are now the source of your biggest fights.

In this Heads & Tails episode, Dr. Kate and Jay White unpack what happens when the differences that once sparked attraction start to cause friction. From savers vs. spenders, early birds vs. always late, and introverts vs. extroverts, to the classic messy vs. clean showdown, they explore why these dynamics shift over time and what they reveal about deeper em...


Episode 9: Launch, Linger, and Loop Back Home: Parenting on the Edge of the Empty Nest
10/24/2025

Just when you think you're done parenting… it shifts again. The house gets quieter — or not. The fridge stays full — or empties overnight when your twenty-something swoops back in. Whether your kids are launching, lingering, or looping back home, this stage of parenthood is one of the biggest emotional recalibrations of midlife.

In this Heads & Tails episode, Dr. Kate White and Jay White dive into what it means to parent on the edge of the empty nest — when your role, your relationship, and your sense of self are all in flux.

You'll hear:    •   🧭 How to tell if it's a kid...


Episode 8: The Silent Squeeze of Midlife Caregiving
10/10/2025

When the roles reverse and you find yourself caring for the ones who raised you — no one really prepares you for that. From emotional burnout to strained sibling dynamics, financial stress, and intimacy on pause… this episode gets real about what it really means to parent your parents.

Practice This in the Mirror: "I want to understand what matters most to you as you're older and how I can be helpful without stepping on your independence."

👵👶 Sandwiched between aging parents and growing kids? This one's for you. 💬 Tag a friend who's living this right now — let them know t...


Episode 7: Menopause and ADD: Hot flashes, Hormones and Half Finished Projects
09/26/2025

This episode explores the tricky overlap between menopause and Attention Deficit Disorder. Many women find that as estrogen levels drop, symptoms of ADD—like forgetfulness, distractibility, and trouble staying organized—can intensify. We'll unpack why hormonal changes impact brain chemistry and focus, and talk openly about how this can affect work, relationships, and self-esteem. Alongside personal stories, we'll highlight coping strategies, treatment options, and the importance of recognizing that you're not "losing it"—your brain is simply navigating a new hormonal landscape.


Episode 6: Midlife Vacation: Passport to Passion (and patience)
09/12/2025

Vacation in midlife hits different: one of us packs 6 SPF options, the other packs…opinions. 😜 In this episode of Heads & Tails, we unpack how to plan a trip you'll both actually enjoy—budget battles, nap negotiations, solo time vs together time, and how to come home closer (not crankier). Hot tips inside: the "two-list" plan, the 24-hour rule for fights on the road, and a script for saying "I need an hour alone" without starting World War III. Drop your most relatable travel fail or best hack below 👇 and tell us: are you Team Itinerary or Team Vibes?


Episode 5: Unlocking the Secrets of Sleep: Insights from Dr. Matsumura
09/05/2025

In this episode of the Heads and Tails podcast, Dr. Andrea Matsumura, known as the Sleep Goddess MD, discusses the critical role of sleep in midlife, addressing common sleep disorders, the impact of hormones, and effective treatment methods. The conversation covers the differences between falling asleep and staying asleep, the importance of cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia, and the complexities of diagnosing sleep disorders. Dr. Matsumura emphasizes the significance of understanding sleep stages, the effects of sleep deprivation, and the role of psychological and physical factors in sleep issues. She also explores the potential of melatonin and hormonal therapies...


Episode 4: Faking It Isn't Making It: Why Honest Sex is Better Sex
08/22/2025

In this episode of Heads and Tails, we're getting real about a topic that's more common than most couples admit—faking orgasm. Why do women fake it? What does it say about your relationship dynamic? And how can it actually decrease sexual satisfaction for both partners over time? Dr. Kate and Jay dig into how silence in the bedroom can reinforce mismatched expectations, lead to emotional distance, and ultimately result in less intimacy overall. But it's not all bad news—we're here to help you flip the script. With humor, insight, and expert guidance, we'll show you how to open...


Episode 3: Parenting in Perimenopause
08/08/2025

In this episode, we navigate the unpredictable world of midlife parenting, where teens and twenty-somethings range from not yet launched to a bit doughy in the middle. We explore the changes in both generations and share strategies for staying connected, setting boundaries, and keeping everyone (mostly) on the same team.


Episode 2: Relationships and Intimacy
07/25/2025

In this episode, we explore the dance of midlife intimacy—balancing emotional closeness with the physical and psychological changes that come with aging. With honesty and humor, we share tips and reflections on how couples can stay connected, reignite passion, and let love evolve through life's transitions.


Episode 1: Dating in Midlife
07/03/2025

In this episode, we explore the raw and often intimidating world of midlife dating, from the emotional challenge of opening up again to the vulnerability of reentering physical intimacy. Whether you're newly single or just curious, we offer honest insights, practical tips, and a few laughs about finding connection in a new dating landscape.