Outside the Secret Service Podcast
A podcast where the former, fired and retired Agents and Officers of the Secret Service come to share their stories about what it was like to work inside one of America’s most elite law enforcement agencies.
018 - Former Special Agent Jon Wackrow

On this episode of Outside the Secret Service, former Special Agent John Wackrow recounts his unexpected path into the Secret Service from a career in the hospitality industry. Jon's career teaches us about the power of relationships
experiences during 9/11 training, and years on protective and investigative details. He discusses the cultural challenges inside the agency, the impact of technology and media, transitioning to private sector work, and lessons of teamwork and leadership that shaped his post-service career.
017 - Retired Special Agent Darin Kinder

As America approaches the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on our homeland, it's only fitting to hear the story of an Agent who witnessed it first hand. Now retired, Special Agent Darin Kinder recounts what brought him to the US Secret Service in 2000, what happened on 9/11 as a young agent in the New York Field Office, and what motivated him to serve an additional 24 years in the organization.
Since retirement, Darin spends his time as a professional speaker with Fierce Faith and has recently published a book, 'Bury Me in a Dirty Suit'. His book chronicles h...
016 - Retired Special Agent in Charge Cindy Marble

Retired Special Agent Cindy Marble joins the OTSS podcast to trace her Secret Service career—from being inspired by Watergate to posts in Houston, the Washington Field Office, the Intelligence Division, and the Presidential Protective Detail.
She shares frontline stories and insights about threat assessment, mental health intervention, and how her protective intelligence work led to a new role in the private sector with a focus on connecting scattered open-source information and preventing threats.
A generational leader, Cindy shares insights about how to lead high-achievers in a zero-fail mission.
015 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry Williams

Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry Williams recounts his journey from Uniformed Division posts in D.C. to investigations, Presidential protection for George H.W. Bush, Camp David assignments, and international advances in Northern Ireland. He shares memorable moments and lessons on leadership, process, and public service.
This episode offers a candid, fast-paced look at daily life in the Secret Service, the evolution of protection and investigative work, and how those experiences shaped a long federal career after leaving the Service.
014 - Retired Special Agent in Charge Rad Jones

You're in for a captivating conversation with Rad Jones, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the Detroit Field Office. As humble as he is capable, SAIC Jones shares remarkable experiences from his career, starting just nine months before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the life and times of a Secret Service Agent (and the agency) from a bygone era, filled with insider anecdotes and pivotal moments in U.S. history.
#Resilience #Resourceful #JFKAssassination #KeepTheSecretInSecretService #USSSValues
013 - PT. 2 Retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta

Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division. In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division.
The Agent in Charge of a protective division is the agent "over the shoulder" o...
012 - PT 1. Retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta

Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division. In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division.
The Agent in Charge of a protective division is the agent "over the shoulder" o...
011 - Retired Senior Special Agent May Chow
You may call her "Your Honor" but we like to call her "our friend, May". Welcome to the Outside the Secret Service podcast, where we sit down with May Chow, a remarkable retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service. In this episode, you'll hear May's incredible journey from her early days in law enforcement in San Francisco, to her life on the Vice President's Detail and what happened that day the Vice President accidentally shot his friend and hunting partner. Finally, we'll hear May's tales of operating a small office in Burlington, Vermont and the challenges...
010 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jeff James
In this episode of the Outside the Secret Service, we dive into the remarkable career of Jeff James, a retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the Pittsburgh Field Office. Spanning from 1996 to 2018, Jeff shares his experiences as an agent in the U.S. Secret Service. From helping a former President find a belt at KMart, to assisting in solving a cold case while liason at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Jeff's story is one that would make his hero, Captain America, proud.
Jeff served as a Special Advisor on the US House of...
009 - Retired Senior Special Agent Tim Reboulet
Today we sit down with Tim Reboulet, the COO of M6 Global Defense and a retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service.
Tim opens up about his multifaceted career, from navigating complex motorcade routes in Beijing China to the importance of balancing service to country with a personal life. We also dive into pressing topics such as school safety, personal growth, who roots for the better baseball team, and the friendships maintained through such a demanding profession.
#We'reReplaceable #Motorcades #BeijingOlympics #SchoolSafety #PostServiceAdjustment #WorkLifeBalance #SFGiants #STLCardinals
008 - Retired SAIC, Special Agent Tom Landry
Join host and retired Special Agent Jim Holcomb as he delves into the world of the United States Secret Service with his longtime friend and guest, Tom Landry, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the St. Louis Field Office. Celebrating the 160th anniversary of the agency, Tom shares his fascinating journey from his early inspiration shaped by Kennedy-era politics to his unique experiences in government service, first with the US Border Patrol then later with the US Secret Service.
Explore Tom's impactful stint as Deputy Special Agent in Charge of the George Bush detail, his innovative...
007 - Retired Senior Special Agent Craig Fraser

Craig Fraser was all in on his career in the US Secret Service. He viewed his career not just as a job, but as an outward profession of his core values. He credits his time in the #USArmy for setting his life on a disciplined path. America is a better place for his over 30 years of service to our nation. Oh yeah, he also has one of the most epic challenge coin collections ever assembled. We cover off on that too.
#Sacrifice #TrasformationalVSTransactional #IntelligenceDivision #FlagshipOffice #Texas3Step #ChallengeCoins #Elvis
006 - Retired SAIC, Special Agent Ken Valentine

Retired Special Agent in Charge Ken Valentine spent 24 years in the US Secret Service, serving on the Presidential Protective Division for three US Presidents, and retiring as the Agent in Charge for the Dignitary Protective Division. He is a gifted storyteller, public speaker, and author of two books. You can find a link to his website below:
https://www.kennethvalentine.com/
#YearbookTheology #DirectionNotPerfection #DrivingTheLimo #PreparationMeetsOpportunity #CongressionalAffairs #Mentoring #Prayer&Faith
005 - Secret Service Origin Story & Evolution

From chasing counterfeiters through confederate outhouses and doghouses to protecting the President at the White House. The history of the US Secret Service is worth understanding and appreciating. I guarantee you'll learn something new today. Spend a few minutes with us as you learn the origin story of the US Secret Service and how they're still fighting the good fight today.
#OriginStory #CivilWar #Counterfeit #Legacy #PayWood #DontRushTowardProtectees
004 - Former Special Agent Mike Matranga

From protecting the President as a member of the Counter Assault Team to protecting our nation's schools, Mike's life is one of devotion to duty and servant leadership.
Mike's company can be found here.
https://m6globaldefense.com/
#SchoolSafety #MentalHealth #CounterAssaultTeam #GodsPlan #Grit #HighAmbition #Brotherhood #IronLawOfBureaucracy
003 - Former Special Agent John Shuman

From a Minnesota Farm House to the White House, John Shuman spent 15 years as a Special Agent with the US Secret Service. Several of those years were spent on the Vice President's Detail. Today he is the Director of Security for Lake Highlands Preparatory School in Orlando, Florida.
002 - Retired RAIC, Special Agent Kevin Dye

A true executive protection professional whose name on the roll means his heart is in the work. If you're lucky, maybe he'll even be the boss of you.
001 - Retired DSAIC, Special Agent Todd Jenkins

Raised in a family rooted in public service—his father a Secret Service agent—Todd Jenkins began his journey as a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, then answered the call to serve on the front lines of American history: first as a soldier in the U.S. Army, and later as a Special Agent with the United States Secret Service. In this episode, Todd shares his inspired beginnings, his entry into the Secret Service during the 1980s, and his extraordinary firsthand account of the events of September 11, 2001. Listen as he recounts witnessing the events from...
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