Tom & D
Tom & D – The Only Entertainment Podcast That Admits It’s Faking ItEver wonder how people really make it in the entertainment business, or just business, or even in life? So do Tom & D. These two long-time friends have somehow carved out careers in the industry—despite feeling like total hacks. Are they talented? Lucky? Just really good at faking it? They’re not sure either, but they’re willing to talk (and laugh) about it.Each episode, Tom & D swap stories, roast each other, and dive into the messy, hilarious world of entertainment, business, and the business of entertainment. They also welco...
Episode 1: Brian Wilson (Podcast Producer for MeatDad and many more!)

In this first episode, the hosts (Deren Abram and Tom Fry) kick around names for their new podcast—half-jokingly calling it "Tom and D.” but then going with it.
Between laughs, Tom opens up about their friendship since college and trying to quit vaping.
They bring in Brian Wilson, a podcast producer for influencer-giants like MeatDad and drops some wisdom on podcasting and content creation. He shares the wild success story of MeatDad—a butcher-turned-influencer with 5 million plus followers—and stresses the power of consistency and the importance of getting started. The episode wraps with some goo...