The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan Peterson for enlightening discourse that will change the way you think. This podcast breaks down the dichotomy of life through interviews and lectures that explain how individuals and culture are shaped by values, music, religion, and beyond. It will give you a new perspective and a modern understanding of your creativity, competence, and personality.
562. What Do We Actually Know About Autism? | Sir Simon Baron-Cohen

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson speaks with psychologist and autism researcher Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen about the nature of empathy, systemizing, and the neurological basis of autism. This needed conversation explores how humans develop theory of mind, the differences between cognitive and affective empathy, and why some individuals gravitate toward systems over social interaction. They discuss the evolutionary roots of invention, gender differences in cognition, and how autistic traits relate to creativity and pattern recognition. Unflinchingly, they also discuss the darker side of empathy deficits—including psychopathy and cruelty—raising urgent questions about compassion, human development, and our capacity for evil. Professor of Ps...
561. Scott Adams on Cancer, Cancellation, and the Power of Saying Yes | Scott Adams

In this deeply personal interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Scott Adams, cartoonist and creator of Dilbert, to explore the unlikely paths that shape a life—from illustrating a nationally syndicated hit comic to fatal illness and facing the metaphysical. Adams shares stories of coincidence and perseverance, including how affirmations, setbacks, and sheer optimism propelled him from obscurity to national fame. The conversation dives into themes of malicious envy, systems versus goals, American culture, simulation theory, and the power of narrative perception. Both reflect on trauma, purpose, and survival—making this episode a profound meditation on how we auth...
560. The $20 Million Mistake Democrats Made with Young Men | David French

Sparked by French’s recent New York Times article, “The Democrats’ $20 Million Man Problem,” he and Jordan Peterson discuss the societal failures contributing to male alienation—fatherlessness, loss of purpose, overmedication, and a culture that increasingly pathologizes masculinity. French shares personal insights as a father, veteran, and conservative commentator (Who is regularly published in Liberal outlets), and the two expand on themes of demoralization, the need for intentional rites of passage, and the psychological appeal of figures like Andrew Tate. The conversation closes with a stark agreement—we urgently need to reach young men with empathy, structure, and a meaningful vision for l...
How to Stop Europe’s Collapse: What We Can Learn from Germany's Mistakes | Christine Anderson

Member of European Parliament Christine Anderson joins Jordan Peterson to explain the cultural, political, and economic unraveling of Germany and the EU. Mass immigration, rising crime, deindustrialization and elite-driven climate policies—Anderson argues that Europe is collapsing under the weight of its own ideological delusions. She shares her personal experience growing up near East Germany, her awakening during the 2008 financial crisis, and why the "far-right" label no longer works. If you want to understand what's really happening behind Europe's polite facade—watch or listen. This episode was filmed on June 25th, 2025  | Links | For Christine Anderson: On X https://x.com/AndersonA...
558. The Snow White Disney Doesn’t Want You To Know

Dr. Jordan Peterson offers a psychological and cultural analysis of the Grimm Brothers' Snow White, using it as a lens to explore evolutionary biology, female status hierarchies, fertility suppression, and the pathology of the “evil queen” archetype. Drawing on research in primatology and cultural commentary, Peterson connects ancient folklore to modern dynamics—critiquing contemporary feminist ideologies, careerism, and generational envy, while upholding the redemptive power of masculine responsibility in narrative tradition (and real life). Part myth, part science, part cultural autopsy—this is the synthesis of one of Peterson’s most impactful tenants: stories matter, and fundamental stories reiterate across time. Thi...
557. Balancing Pregnancy, Motherhood and Work | Riley Gains

Riley Gaines returns to speak with Dr. Jordan Peterson about marriage, pregnancy, and what it means to pursue both motherhood and mission in a culture that tells women they must choose. Riley shares how her decision to keep fighting for women’s sports and biological reality has only deepened since becoming pregnant with a daughter—and why she refuses to slow down. The fight was already personal. Now—it’s as deep as lineage. This episode was filmed on June 23rd, 2025  | Links | For Riley Gaines: On X https://x.com/riley_gaines_?lang=en Watch or listen to “Gaines For Girls” on Outkic...
Jordan Peterson Live on Tour: How Chasing Your Dreams Transforms Who You Are

In this live lecture from Omaha, Nebraska, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson weaves through biblical narratives and cultural critique—from Tolstoy’s suicidal despair to Moses’ encounter with the burning bush, from Cain’s failed sacrifice to James Bond as the symbol of romantic adventure. What do these stories have in common? What happens when we replace transcendent pursuit with technological pride or ideological dogma? This is a warning—and a call—to speak the truth, take up your cross, and climb.  This “We Who Wrestle With God” tour stop was filmed in Omaha, NE, on October 21st, 2024.
556. How Social Media Is Wrecking Kids' Lives and Stealing Their Childhood | Jonathan Haidt

In this urgent conversation, Jonathan Haidt and Jordan Peterson dissect the silent catastrophe facing Gen Z—spiraling anxiety, attention collapse, and social isolation—all amplified by addictive tech. They explore the psychological and spiritual fallout of algorithm-optimized platforms, the gendered impact on boys and girls, and what it means to raise children in a virtualized world. Data-driven but deeply human, this is essential viewing for anyone wondering what the hell happened after 2012—and how to fix it. This episode was filmed on June 9th, 2025  | Links | For Jonathan Haidt: On X https://x.com/jonhaidt?lang=en On Substack https://substack.com/@jonatha...
Jordan Peterson Live on Tour: The Hidden Key to a Fulfilling Life

In this powerful lecture from the We Who Wrestle With God tour, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson explores why stories aren't just entertainment—but the essential structure through which we perceive reality, aim toward meaning, and shape our lives. From biblical archetypes to everyday struggles, Peterson weaves a compelling argument that our suffering, identity, and moral choices are all governed by the stories we believe and the sacrifices we're willing to make. Drawing on deep psychological insight and ancient wisdom, he reveals that without a unifying aim, we drift toward bitterness and chaos—but with the right sacrifice, we forge a path...
555. The Ethics of Iterability: Can Culture Survive Without a Moral Core? | Sam Harris

Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris explore the breakdown of institutions in the digital age, and how difficult it’s become to identify what’s true and what’s not. Harris voices deep concern over the role independent media and social platforms play in amplifying misinformation, especially post-October 7th. They discuss the addictive, fragmenting nature of platforms like X, the erosion of trust in institutions, the dangers of AI-generated identity theft — and possible solutions. The result is a sobering analysis of epistemic collapse, digital psychopathy, and the urgent need for institutional structure in a world where mass information fails us. 'This episode w...
554. What One Billionaire Knows About Outlasting a Dollar Collapse | Michael Saylor

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Michael Saylor explore the evolving relationship between the U.S. government and Bitcoin, Donald Trump’s growing recognition of cryptocurrency as a strategic commodity, the visionary impact of Bitcoin’s founder Satoshi Nakamoto, and the looming convergence of digital currency with our everyday lives. This episode was filmed on May 30th, 2025.  | Links | For Michael Saylor: On X https://x.com/saylor Website https://www.michael.com/ Read “What is Money” https://a.co/d/c1t4izi
553. Why Do Smart People Double Down On Bad Ideas? | Dr. Gad Saad

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and evolutionary psychologist Dr. Gad Saad reunite for a conversation that blends ancient myth, evolutionary theory, and cultural psychology. Together, they dissect cognitive dissonance, the dangers of willful blindness, and the evolutionary logic behind sacrifice, delayed gratification, and identity formation. This episode was filmed on May 23rd, 2025.  | Links | For Dr. Gad Saad: Read “The Saad Truth About Happiness: 8 Rules for Living the Good Life” https://a.co/d/1IqTyM9 On X https://twitter.com/GadSaad On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Dr.Gad.Saad/ On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/doctorgadsaad/ On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/U...
552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and journalist Megyn Kelly dissect the cultural and psychological forces reshaping modern gender dynamics—particularly the rising unhappiness among young women, the suppression of traditional masculinity, and the consequences of empathy-driven institutions. They explore maternal overreach, the devaluation of motherhood, the politicization of victimhood, and the unintended fallout of feminism’s gains in the corporate and academic world. This episode unpacks how men and women are drifting further apart—politically, emotionally, and biologically—and asks whether modern society is equipped to repair the divide wrought by extreme feminism. This episode was filmed on May 28th, 2025. There’s nothing mo...
551. An Honest Take on the Looming Energy Crisis | Scott Tinker

Is our planet doomed? Probably not, it turns out. Dr. Jordan B. Peterson joins geologist Scott Tinker to dismantle the myth of energy scarcity, exposing the flawed narratives that demonize coal, oil, and natural gas. Together, they reject the false binary of renewables versus fossil fuels, arguing instead for an abundant future powered by both. This conversation confronts the culture of fear that paralyzes progress and issues a stark warning: if the West continues to undermine its own energy and technological ambitions in service of an ideological green agenda, it risks ceding global leadership to authoritarian regimes like China. Innovation...
550. Broken, Blacklisted, and Saved by Comedy | Tyler Fischer

Actor and comedian Tyler Fischer joins Dr. Jordan B. Peterson to unpack a wild, raw, and brutally honest life story—from drinking at age ten to getting banned from Gutfeld and blacklisted by Hollywood. They dive deep into family trauma, addiction, therapy, racism in casting, and finding success amidst broken systems. Tyler and Jordan reflect on Kill Tony, the uncanny impersonation Joe Rogan forbade, and what it really means to go all in on a dream. Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy This episode was filmed on May 14th, 2025.  | Links | For Tyler Fischer: See Tyler on tour! https://www.tylerfis...
549. Matt Walsh on Making Movies, the Woke Right, & Winning

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh—filmmaker, provocateur, and cultural lightning rod. They unpack the making of two viral documentaries, What Is a Woman? and Am I Racist?, and the philosophical and political firestorms surrounding them. Matt pulls back the curtain on what it takes to expose ideology masquerading as morality—why he uses comedy, performance, and confrontation to challenge cultural frauds. From uncomfortable interviews to media backlash, the conversation explores the psychological toll and moral convictions that drive his work. From the psychology of editing, storytelling, and satire to the dangers of resentment-fueled ideolog...
Parental Roles

Parenting isn’t a theory—it’s a daily test of character. In this first episode, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson meets with real parents navigating the joys and struggles of raising children. From discipline and play to guilt, sacrifice, and step-parenting, Peterson offers timeless insights rooted in clinical psychology and lived experience. If you’re a parent—or planning to be—this is where your journey begins. - - -
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548. Jordan Peterson Takes Your Call: Advice, Mental Health, Family Dynamics | Mikhaila Fuller

Dr. Jordan Peterson and his daughter Mikhaila sit down to tackle raw, unfiltered questions from the audience. This is a deeply honest, sometimes uncomfortable, often inspiring ride through the mess and meaning of modern life. From navigating fractured families and polyamory to rebuilding faith in a collapsing culture, Peterson offers his signature mix of sharp insight, hard truths, and fierce encouragement. Whether you're wondering about love, legacy, or just trying to build a life worth living—this is the conversation that dares to go there.  | Links | There’s nothing more difficult—or more important—than raising a child. In this new 5-part...
547. The Movie Hollywood Didn’t See Coming... | Jocko Willink

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Jocko Willink — decorated Navy SEAL, best-selling author, and serial entrepreneur — to explore the principles of discipline, leadership, and the relentless pursuit of meaningful goals. From parenting to entrepreneurship, from writing books to rebuilding American factories, this is a masterclass in how to live deliberately and lead effectively. Jocko shares how to recognize the problems that matter, transform them into opportunities, and cultivate the habits that compound into lasting success. Together, they trace the journey of “Way of the Warrior Kid” — from a simple idea to a major motion picture — and reflect on what it means to l...
546. The Death Cult That Shook the World | Douglas Murray

What really happened on October 7th? What does it reveal about Israel, Hamas, the West—and the future of civilization?In this gripping and deeply disturbing conversation, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson speaks with author and journalist Douglas Murray about his newest book, "On Democracies and Death Cults: Israel and the Future of Civilization." Together, they walk through the harrowing details of the Hamas invasion of Israel, the unprecedented October 7th terrorist attacks, and the shocking moral inversion that followed in Western media, academia, and public discourse. Douglas Murray is a journalist and bestselling author of 7 books. His latest publication is the...
545. Reaction to Harvard: Scam? | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

Dr. Jordan Peterson breaks down what the media has framed as a battle between Harvard University and the Trump administration—but it's much deeper than that. Peterson exposes the ideological decay at the heart of elite academic institutions, driven by the dogma of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and enforced through cowardice, corruption, and groupthink. From firsthand experience at Harvard, McGill, and the University of Toronto, Peterson connects the dots between academia's collapse and its ripple effect on society. With insights into why DEI statements are eroding scientific credibility, how universities became ideological factories, and why the future of higher edu...
544. When the Right Goes Too Far | Dr. James Lindsay

Is the radical right becoming the very thing it hates? Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Dr. James Lindsay to unpack the rise of the "Woke Right"—a faction of online reactionaries using the same tactics of victimhood, outrage mobs, and cult-like behavior once exclusive to the radical left. Together, they explore how parasitic ideologies hijack belief systems, mimic virtue, and weaponize social media to manipulate the masses. From cluster B psychopathology to Nazi apologetics, from Marx to modern meme culture, this is a deep dive into the psychological and ideological rot infecting both ends of the spectrum.If you...
543. “You’re Not Gaining Weight Because You’re Lazy” | Dr. Mehmet Oz

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down for a candid discussion with Dr. Mehmet Oz, discussing the toxified food environment within the United States—pointing directly to its causes—and exploring not just possible, but immediate routes for change. These include better governmental oversight, but also the implementation of new technologies such as AI. Dr. Mehmet Oz, newly appointed by President Donald Trump as the 17th Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), is a cardiothoracic surgeon, professor emeritus at Columbia University, and former leader of the heart institute at New York Presbyterian Medical Center, known for innovations like...
542. Charlie Kirk’s Personal Story

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson engages in conversation with Charlie Kirk—author, speaker, and founder and CEO of Turning Point USA. They delve into Kirk’s emergence as a leading voice in the Conservative movement, his choice to bypass traditional higher education, and the early indicators of ideological bias in academia. The discussion also addresses how the university system has not only tilted toward the hyper-feminine but has transformed into a large-scale scam. Additionally, they examine academia’s departure from timeless questions of good and evil, faith, and foundational philosophy, to a focus on Marxist economics and cultural capture. Charlie Kirk is the...
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Billionaire investor and PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel sits down with Jordan Peterson for a powerful conversation about why real progress has stalled. Thiel argues that the last truly groundbreaking achievement may have been landing on the moon—and since then, we've slowed down. He explains how fear, red tape, and over-specialization have made us more cautious and less ambitious. They dig into how society has shifted away from building and inventing, toward digital distractions and endless talk. They also explore what’s been lost as faith and meaning have disappeared from public life. From broken universities to status-driven culture wars, this...
540. Masculinity Saves the Weak | Tim Tebow

In this episode, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with athlete, philanthropist, and speaker Tim Tebow to discuss the connection between competitive drive, personal virtue, and Christian compassion. Tebow recounts the life-changing encounter that inspired his foundation — a moment in a remote Filipino village, where he met a disabled boy hidden away from the world. From that day forward, his focus shifted from MVP titles to serving the most vulnerable. Together, they explore the demonization of masculinity, the crisis facing young men today, and how athletic excellence, when rooted in higher purpose, can become a force for good. This is a c...
539. The Truth Behind Cows and Climate | Joel Salatin

Regenerative farming pioneer Joel Salatin joins Dr. Jordan B. Peterson to challenge the myth that cows are bad for the planet. They explore how pasture-based farming restores ecosystems, the dangers of industrial agriculture, and why storytelling matters in the fight for the future of food. Joel Salatin, dubbed the "Lunatic Farmer," is a Christian libertarian environmentalist and one of the most outspoken voices in regenerative agriculture. Co-owner of Polyface Farm in Virginia, he supplies thousands with pasture-raised meats and teaches sustainable farming worldwide. With 16 books, such as “The Omnivore’s Dilemma," countless columns, and a wildly engaging speaking style, Salatin blend...
538. South Africa: What the West Needs to Learn | Dr. Ernst Roets

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with South African filmmaker, author, and activist Dr. Ernst Roets. They discuss the genetic and cultural hyper-diversity of Africa, the early settlement patterns of South Africa, the origin story of the Boers, how forgotten history breeds rhyming conflicts in the present, and the complex needle that must be threaded for shared prosperity. Dr. Ernst Roets is an Afrikaner activist, author and filmmaker from South Africa. He serves as Executive Director of the newly established Pioneer Initiative, which seeks to promote a more sustainable political dispensation for South Africa, based on the principles of decentralization a...
537. Who Is Mark Carney?

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson analyzes Canada’s new and current prime minister, Mark Carney. From his resume to his book, “Values,” Dr. Peterson sheds light on the motivations, pitfalls, and unsettling strengths of the man calling for a snap election. He hopes to earn a mandate from the Canadian people to lead—but is he the right man for the job?
536. AI, Philosophy, & the Search for Alignment | Jacob Howland

Jordan Peterson sits down with author, professor, and Dean of Intellectual Foundations at the University of Austin, Jacob Howland. They discuss man’s finitude and his grasping for the infinite, how orientation can provide limitless abundance or a bottomless fall, where Socrates and the Talmud overlap, and why God offers Abraham adventure as the covenant. Jacob Howland is the Senior Vice President for Academic Affairs, and Dean of Intellectual Foundations at the University of Austin. Previously he was McFarlin Professor of Philosophy Emeritus at the University of Tulsa, where he taught from 1988 to 2020. Howland has published five books and roughly sixt...
535. Is It Too Late for the UK? A Candid Talk with Winston Marshall

Jordan Peterson sits down with writer, musician, and podcaster Winston Marshall. They discuss the nature of identity on the community and national levels, the relationship between a nation and its citizens, how the UK has a rich culture that is worth preserving, and the unifying question that has still yet to be answered. Winston Marshall is a writer, musician, and host of “The Winston Marshall Show.” In 2007 Winston co-founded folk-rock band Mumford & Sons. In their fourteen years together the band won 2 Grammy Awards, 2 Brit Awards, an Ivor Novello and performed with the likes of Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, Willi...
534. From Warhawk to Peacemaker: A Congressman’s Radical Transformation | Mark Siljander

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with ex-Congressman, ambassador, and author Mark Siljander. They discuss the numerous times he brokered peace in Middle Eastern and African conflicts, the Neo-con worldview, Donald Trump, his role in the Abraham Accords, pushing back against Islamism, and how to build a bridge between true Islam and the west. Mark Siljander is an ex-Congressman, ambassador, and author of “A Dangerous Misunderstanding: A Congressman's Quest to Bridge the Muslim-Christian Divide. This episode was filmed on March 5th 2025 | Links | For Mark Siljander: Read “A Deadly Misunderstanding: A Congressman's Quest to Bridge the Muslim-Christian Divide” https://a.co/d/6skKSkA
533. Dreams, Nightmares, and Neuroscience | Dr. Baland Jalal

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with researcher, neuroscientist, and author, Dr. Baland Jalal. They discuss human embodiment, the rubber hand experiments (which push embodiment beyond the physical), the deeper functionality of dreams, sleep paralysis, and a potential theory to explain alien abductions. Dr. Jalal is a neuroscientist and author at Harvard and previously a Visiting Researcher at Cambridge University Medical School where he obtained his PhD. Dr. Jalal's work has been featured in the The New York Times, Washington Post, The Today Show, The BBC, Chicago Tribune, The Guardian, NBC News, New York Magazine, The Times, The Telegraph, Forbes, D...
532. A Dialogue So Dangerous It Might Just Bring You Wisdom | John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall. They discuss the vertical dimension, proper orientation within the hierarchy of values, the normative versus the ethical, and what makes something more “real” in a pragmatic and philosophical sense. John Vervaeke is an associate professor of psychology & cognitive science at the University of Toronto. John publishes and conducts research on the nature of intelligence, rationality, wisdom & meaning in life emphasizing relevance realization, non-propositional kinds of knowing & 4E cognitive science. Jordan Hall, previously known as Jordan Greenhall, is an entrepreneur and systems thinker with a focus on the intersection of tec...
531. What Can’t Be Undone | Detransitioner Clementine Breen

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Clementine Breen, a child who was moved through the transgender pipeline and has since de-transitioned. Together they walk through her story (from early sexual abuse to the daunting decision to undergo affirming surgery), the confusion and fallout thereafter, reorientation, and her lawsuit against the doctor who led her astray. Clementine Breen is a de-transitioner who experienced early sexual abuse before having her gender dysphoria misdiagnosed as being transgender. Top surgery was sold to her at age 13, all the while her parents were told the atrocious “dead daughter or living son” lie. She is curre...
530. Failure or Success in the Time of Trump | Jim Balsillie

Jordan Peterson sits down with retired co-founder and co-CEO of Research in Motion, known predominately for the BlackBerry. They discuss how Balsillie helped transition the world into the smartphone age, Canada’s faltering economic performance (well before Trump’s trade war), why America is taking these actions now, and the ideas of Mark Carney (Trudeau on steroids).  Mr. Balsillie is the retired chairman and co-CEO of Research in Motion (BlackBerry), a technology company he scaled from an idea to $20 billion in sales globally. His private investment office includes global and domestic technology investments.He is the co-founder of the Institute for Ne...
529. How Competition Will Save Public Schools | Corey DeAngelis

Jordan Peterson sits down with bestselling author, commentator, and researcher, Dr. Corey DeAngelis. They shed light on where 50% of all state budgets are spent, the surprising stack of monopolies that strangleholds public education, the partisan lies surrounding school choice, and the truth every parent needs to know: school choice uplifts all students. Dr. Corey A. DeAngelis is a senior fellow at the American Culture Project and a visiting fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research. He has been labeled the “school choice evangelist” and called “the most effective school choice advocate since Milton Friedman.” He is a regular on Fox News...
528. The Longevity of Happiness | Dr. Arthur Brooks

Jordan Peterson sits down with professor, author, and columnist Dr. Arthur Brooks. They discuss the physicality of happiness, how aim sets perception, the paradox of progress, the need for proper discernment, and how sustained maturity sets you up for the adventure of your life. This episode was filmed on January 7th, 2025. Dr. Arthur Brooks began his professional life as a classic French hornist. He left college at age 19, touring and recording with the Annapolis Brass Quintet and, later, the City Orchestra of Barcelona. While still performing in his late 20s he returned to school and achieved a Ph.D. by 34. Br...
527. Gay Marriage, Surrogacy, Divorce & Hookup Culture | Katy Faust

Jordan Peterson sits down with author, speaker, and founder and president of the children’s rights organization Them Before Us, Katy Faust. They discuss the ethics of surrogate pregnancies, the importance of both the mother and father in the home, the purpose of marriage being for the child — not the adults, and the abysmal outcomes of no-fault divorce in our culture. Katy Faust is the founder and president of Them Before Us, a global movement defending children’s right to their mother and father. She publishes, speaks, and testifies widely on why marriage and family are matters of justice for childre...
526. Trump, Musk, Kennedy: the Dawn of Transparency | Michael Shellenberger

Jordan Peterson sits down with journalist, bestselling author, and founder of Public.News, Michael Shellenberger. They discuss the key moments that ushered in rapid transparency for the U.S., from the Twitter Files to Donald Trump taking the white house. They also explore how new generations can take political responsibility for the future of the West, the need to rebuild trust in public institutions, and how to make every desert bloom. Michael Shellenberger is the founder of Public, the C.B.R. Chair of Politics, Censorship, and Free Speech at the University of Austin, and the bestselling author of San F...