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A small-town country kid from deep East Texas—near Beaumont and Jasper—joins the Navy in 1986 as an undesignated fireman and steps aboard the legendary USS Midway in Yokosuka, Japan. What follows is a 22+ year career defined not by flash, but by quiet competence, decisive action, and an unshakable commitment to taking care of people.

Brian Nelson rides out a brutal typhoon that warps hangar bay doors on Midway, transitions to amphibious ops on the young USS Germantown (where Marines bring discipline and heavy gear), stands post as a gate guard at NAS...

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What does it really take to grow from an 18-year-old radioman into a Command Master Chief trusted to steady a carrier crew? We sit down with retired Master Chief Shaun Brahmsteadt to map a 35-year journey packed with hard choices, honest mentorship, and the kind of leadership that delivers results when it counts. From a tiny Northern California town to Cold War boot camp, from a sub-chasing shore billet to first deployments, Sean shares how curiosity, discipline, and humility turned confusion into competence—and competence into command trust.

The story shifts coasts an...

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History isn’t background noise here; it’s the compass. We open by connecting Cold War alliances to today’s fault lines, then ride along as David Kano—retired Navy Chief Hospital Corpsman—shares how “sailor first” shaped every step: enlisting three months before 9/11, stabilizing patients in Iraq’s trauma bays, and learning that prevention is power when you’re safeguarding a ship’s water, food, and heat stress programs.

From Okinawa to Al Asad, then outside the wire in Helmand as an IA, David pulls back the curtain on what high‑tempo service really a...

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What happens when you hate running, but choose obedience anyway? That’s the spark at the heart of this conversation with faith-first performance coach Chris Avery — a man who ran a marathon with zero training, logged a mile a day until it became years, and is now mapping a 12,000-mile mission to run the perimeter of America. The story isn’t about superhuman talent; it’s about ordinary action empowered by faith, forgiveness, and a stubborn loyalty to purpose.

We trace Chris’s path from addiction to sobriety, through marriage and fatherhood, and into a...

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Stress doesn’t start at the crisis point; it starts the moment the phone lights up. We open with the real baseline most of us carry—pings, expectations, and a mind that wakes up in the yellow—and then lay down a clear roadmap to navigate the day without losing yourself. Drawing on years of Navy leadership and today’s classroom realities, we use the Operational Stress Control colors to name what you’re feeling and the simple stress equation—pressure minus perceived capability—to show where to intervene.

From there, we unpack four pr...

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A wound left untended doesn’t just hurt—it starts to steer. That idea threads through a gripping conversation with author, speaker, and publisher Athena Dean Holtz, whose journey spans Scientology, pioneering PTSD advocacy, a booming publishing house, and a long season of spiritual abuse that cost her marriage, company, and community. What emerged on the other side is a hard-won clarity about discernment, forgiveness, and the everyday mechanics of spiritual warfare.

We start with the early days of Point Man Ministries, where Athena helped bring PTSD into the light for veterans and...

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A kid from Staten Island walks three miles to a Navy recruiter after a jobsite blowup and ends up a warrant officer, a chief engineer, and finally a financial advisor. That’s not luck—it’s discipline, mentorship, and a lot of deckplate reps. Gary sits down with his shipmate Jody Schilling to trace the full arc: boot camp in Orlando, Treasure Island A School, meeting a destroyer in Bahrain, and learning damage control fast under real pressure. Along the way, Jody owns his missteps, turns NJPs into fuel, teaches DC indoc, and earns ESWS b...

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When emotions run hot, one choice can change everything. Gary Wise lays out a clear, battle-tested way to slow the moment, tell the truth about what you feel, and make a response you won’t regret tomorrow. Drawing on decades of Navy leadership, teaching, fatherhood, and faith, we unpack why emotional intelligence matters more than ever in a world of constant comparison, instant judgment, and phones that never sleep.

We break down a simple playbook you can use under pressure: name the emotion with honesty, create a pause through prayer or reflection, an...

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The best leaders don’t start with perfect test scores or spotless plans—they start with a clear why. Gary sits down with Chelsea James, a first-generation student at Florida State, to unpack how a COVID-era freshman became a campus leader anchored by discipline, mentoring, and relentless self-advocacy. She shares the real tools that moved the needle: a paper planner, firm boundaries, and the willingness to ask for help early and often.

Chelsea takes us inside JROTC’s impact on her leadership voice, from learning to command a field to navigating high school...

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The difference between a fragile follower and a future leader often comes down to one habit: perseverance built on safe, real-world reps. We dig into how parents, mentors, and teens can trade helicopter control for a clear framework that creates strength, not dependence. From setting boundaries around effort and rest to knowing when to step in and when to let natural consequences teach, this conversation is a practical guide to raising resilient people who plan ahead, communicate early, and own the outcome.

We start with the pressures today’s teens and adults fa...

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The story starts in Norwalk and lands on a steam frigate in Pearl Harbor—then it never really slows down. Brian Ortega charts how an Operations Specialist grows into a Command Master Chief by choosing hard jobs, chasing qualifications, and holding the line on standards even when the culture tries to slide. We talk early WestPacs, plane guard and shotgun tasking around carriers, and why the best eval bullets are written underway when your judgment is live and the air picture won’t wait.

From there, the conversation gets into the craft of l...

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What if the most honest growth you had all year came from the mistake you’d rather hide? Gary pulls back the curtain on a year that mixed big wins with hard lessons: publishing Own Your Journey for students and families, launching Ocala Inspired to spotlight local leaders, and building a cross-platform community that crossed 1.7 million views—all while teaching full-time, parenting two boys, and serving teens at church.

We walk through the backbone of sustainable leadership at home and at work: model healthy stress management so your people don’t just hear i...

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A small moment can reroute an entire life. Gary shares how a background of constant moves, a Boy Scout love for structure, and a rough detour into street life set the stage for a Navy career he once resisted—and later learned to master. The turning point arrives during a quiet lunch with Oprah playing in the background, where the language of visualization meets an old foundation of faith and a renewed respect for hard work. What follows is a candid blueprint for advancement: study with purpose, lead like an owner, and visualize the ex...

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A pivot only matters if it serves people. That’s the throughline as we look back on a year of testing formats, learning from missteps, and finding the work that actually changes lives—especially for the students we see every weekday. What started as leadership certification coaching and casual leadership talk became a more honest creative journey: quitting alcohol, committing to consistent content, and building a podcast that trades easy inspiration for real tools.

We open the hood on the production realities—why “book more guests” isn’t a strategy, how calendar friction kil...

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The heart of this conversation is simple and fierce: people matter more than the machine. We sit down with Dave Robinson, a Navy cook turned Command Master Chief who led on carriers, a cruiser, a minesweeper, and at Great Lakes before launching a church and home care agency in Tampa. He tells the candid story of a life built on presence—showing up in the galley at 0400, standing on a pier with a seabag and a new name for courage, and guiding crews through their hardest moments.

You’ll hear how the Big...

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A career isn’t a straight line—it’s a wake, and sometimes the seas are rougher than the chart suggests. Gary sits down with Master Chief Mike “Kaz” Kaszubowski to trace three decades of Navy life from Chicago sidewalks to Seventh Fleet, from learning damage control on Treasure Island to stabilizing a crew after the FITZ collision. What emerges is a rare, unvarnished look at mentorship, advancement, and the real cost of leadership when the headlines fade and the deck plates still need answers.

Kaz shares how a young DC2 became the kind o...

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A creative kid from Memphis taught himself to record raps in a closet, signed an indie deal in high school, and then made a decision everyone told him was unlikely: he joined the Navy to buy time, structure, and a ticket to the wider world. We sit down with Marteverick “Shears” to trace how standing watch in a windowless CIC in Japan sharpened his grit, why leadership choices like barracks access change morale, and how a rough start in San Diego—complete with an early DUI—forced a reset that ultimately saved his creative life.

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Orders said “Guam,” and Ashley’s world changed overnight. What followed was a whirlwind of a temporary hotel room, a toddler, a pregnancy, and a husband who left again within a week for a year-and-a-half stretch tied to submarine maintenance in San Diego. Instead of folding, she found a way forward—thanks to an ombudsman with a welcome bag, a community that shows up at the airport, and a choice to step into leadership when it mattered most.

We trace Ashley’s path from Michigan to Groton and Washington, then across the ocean to G...

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Navy Senior Chief (Ret.) Mike Savant spent 23 years turning weather into warfare — from forecasting off Iraqi oil platforms to keeping a three-star calm while the flagship’s comms melted down on the flight deck. He made Chief at 11 years, Senior Chief at 14, consistently ranked #1 EP, and helped stand up new commands… only to watch the advancement goalposts move — twice.

In this episode Mike pulls no punches:

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What does it take to go from a San Diego kid sleeping on potential to a Master Chief ET shaping ship readiness across Seventh Fleet? Dom Taylor joins us to unpack a career built on grit, clear standards, and the kind of leadership that keeps gear up and teams together. From a Subway job behind bulletproof glass to freezing mornings in Great Lakes, Dom learned to troubleshoot deeper than the checklist and to carry that discipline onto a small frigate through 9/11 and into the carrier world where he became an LPO who lifted his...

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A Bay Area kid keeps a promise to his mother and steps into a Navy that will test everything—grit, heart, and the courage to say “no” when “make it happen” would be easier. From recommissioning the battleship Wisconsin and learning the hard truths of old powder in big turrets, to swapping coasts, choosing Boatswain’s Mate, and owning the deck with shiny boots and higher standards, Pete Santos charts a career built on character rather than convenience.

We walk through shore security in Italy during the Gulf War surge—12-on/12-off watches, real...

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What does it take to turn a restless teenager into a leader who can steady a room in a crisis and still laugh with his team after? Gary opens up about ten reasons he’s deeply grateful for the Navy, starting with faith and flowing through family, community, and craft. From two sons born at naval medical centers—without the crush of medical bills—to a marriage that found its footing amid deployments and long watches, the story is grounded, specific, and full of hard-won joy.

We unpack the Chiefs Mess as a true...

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What does it take to turn a “dirty ship” into the crew everyone else calls when things get tough? We sit down with Master Chief Jeffrey “JB” Brooks—raised in Fort Payne, Alabama by his grandparents, recruited by accident, forged on deckplates after 9/11—to unpack the real mechanics of culture change, readiness, and trust.

JB planned on law school. Instead, he learned craft at the Naval Academy, qualifying as a craftmaster under low‑viz radar drills and teaching midshipmen the art of navigation. Forward deployed on USS ESSEX in Sasebo, he shouldered relentless ops...

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A single decision can redraw an entire life. Danielle Wiley walked into a recruiter’s office with a toddler at home and chose purpose over certainty. That step led from DCFN on USS Comstock to Chief Warrant Officer, from ER09 tag-outs and Halon head checks to carrier fire marshal authority, and finally to AIRPAC N7 where she now shapes how carriers train, certify, and fight. This conversation is an unfiltered look at what shipboard readiness truly demands—and the faith, humility, and loyalty required to sustain it for nearly three decades.

We star...

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A senior chief once looked a captain in the eye and saved a young sailor’s career. That moment—anchored in truth and courage—sits at the heart of this conversation with Tony Cook, a Chicago kid turned Navy chief whose life was forged by failure, faith, and the fire of real work.

We walk through the knucklehead years, the undesignated grind, and a near-disastrous DUI with an unregistered firearm at the gate—then the comeback fueled by one leader’s advocacy and Tony’s decision to earn ESWS and own his path. From S...

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A mechanic from Wyoming walks into a recruiter’s office and walks out on a path that leads to P-3 flight engineer, deployments over Bahrain and Diego Garcia, Chief in Hawaii, instructor in Jacksonville, test and research at Pax River, and ultimately the command seat in Guam during one of the toughest stretches the Navy’s seen. That arc belongs to retired Master Chief Mike Marler, and it’s a masterclass in choosing hard roads, learning fast, and owning outcomes when the plan explodes at lunchtime.

We start with the family decision to joi...

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Gary Wise and his guest retired US Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer Gary Harn sit down and trade a lifetime of lessons—funny, raw, and precise. We start in Honeywell, Missouri, where a town shrinks to a post office and a kid takes his first flight to boot camp. From there, the story punches straight through 9/11: a young yeoman lands on the Abraham Lincoln, rides an 11-month deployment from Afghanistan to a flight deck repair to shock-and-awe into Iraq, and learns what it means to keep a floating city fed, paid, and moving. Along th...

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When Gary Wise and Matt Klipfel served together aboard the USS George Washington forward-deployed in Japan, they faced what both describe as the most challenging tour of their military careers. Now, years later, they reconnect to share sea stories, leadership lessons, and the remarkable journey from military service to civilian success.

Matt's story begins with joining the Navy at 17, seeking direction after high school. What follows is a compelling narrative of growth, from boot camp through his assignment to the aircraft carrier's damage control division. Working with critical firefighting systems under intense...

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From working the frigid loading docks to commanding a warship, Captain Steve Wasson's 26-year naval journey showcases the power of persistence and authentic leadership. In this candid conversation, he opens up about his unconventional path through college, his unexpected entry into naval service, and the defining moments that shaped his leadership philosophy.

Wasson shares the raw reality of his early career, including a ship grounding in the Suez Canal just 60 days into his first assignment. Rather than being derailed by this challenge, he demonstrates how facing adversity head-on became the foundation for...

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Leadership isn't a position—it's the ability to transform challenges into opportunities and inspire others through authentic action. Dan Martin embodies this truth, tracing his extraordinary evolution from a self-described teenage troublemaker to an accomplished EOD Master Chief whose leadership was tested in the most dangerous environments imaginable.

This deeply personal conversation reveals how Martin's rebellious nature—once his greatest liability—became his greatest asset in naval special operations. After joining the Navy as a Radioman in 1995, Martin's path took him through multiple specialties, deployments, and leadership positions across the globe. His candid...

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Leadership at sea demands resilience, adaptability, and a willingness to grow through adversity. Senior Chief Petty Officer PJ Ernst's 26-year Navy journey showcases this evolution perfectly, from his spontaneous enlistment in 1991 to his retirement as a respected leader in 2017.

PJ takes us through the transformative experiences that shaped his leadership philosophy—from the shock of boot camp in Orlando to his first deployment aboard USS Peleliu during the Somalia pullout operation. His candid stories about crossing the equator ceremonies, port visits in Australia where locals paid for sailors' meals in gratitude for WW...

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What would happen if we stripped away the religious context from Jesus' parables and viewed them purely as leadership lessons? Gary and Chris take us on a fascinating journey through four powerful biblical stories that reveal timeless leadership principles still relevant in today's complex world.

Starting with the Good Samaritan, they unpack how this ancient tale challenges our perceptions of who deserves our attention and service. As they explain, true leadership means breaking through artificial boundaries and extending help beyond our comfort zones—something both men have experienced in their military and pr...

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What does it take to transform adversity into opportunity? Alex Wright's journey from Coast Guard rescue swimmer to Navy deep sea diver reveals the remarkable resilience needed to navigate life's unexpected turns.

In this powerful conversation, Wright candidly shares his military odyssey – from his stubborn persistence to join the Coast Guard despite recruiter resistance, to the crushing disappointment of medical separation after an accident. Rather than surrendering to circumstances, Wright pivoted, using his GI Bill to pursue education while searching for his next mission.

When opportunity knocked in the form of...

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What truly separates effective leaders from those who merely survive in today's chaotic environment? In this captivating discussion on perseverance and resilience, Gary Wise hosts leadership experts Chris Cahill and Jeremy Moore to unpack the crucial distinction between these complementary qualities.

The conversation begins with a fascinating historical detour as Chris shares insights from his recent trip to Rome, illuminating how leadership lessons are woven throughout theological history. This sets the stage for a deep exploration of perseverance as the relentless forward momentum that keeps leaders moving toward their vision, contrasted with...

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When a teenage clarinet player from Puerto Rico stepped forward to audition for the U.S. Navy Band in 1996, no one could have predicted the remarkable 29-year journey that would follow. Master Chief Luis LeBron's story is one of unexpected opportunities, overcoming language barriers, and finding leadership roles he never sought out.

From his first days at boot camp struggling with English to becoming a Command Master Chief, LeBron's path demonstrates how saying "yes" to opportunity can transform a life. His career spans across continents - from Great Lakes to Jacksonville, Naples...

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The difference between good organizations and exceptional ones often comes down to a single factor: people taking true ownership of their roles. In this thought-provoking episode, Gary Wise and Jeremy Moore unpack the crucial distinction between basic accountability and genuine ownership, revealing why this shift transforms both individuals and teams.

When team members view their responsibilities as "belonging" to them rather than tasks assigned from above, everything changes. But how do leaders facilitate this mindset without sacrificing control? Gary and Jeremy tackle this paradox head-on, exploring how setting clear boundaries actually creates...

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What does it mean to navigate a military career when life throws unexpected challenges your way? Gary sits down with James Thompson, a retired Navy Lieutenant with an unconventional journey that spans from the hallowed halls of MIT to the engine rooms of Navy warships.

Thompson's story begins with a strong naval heritage as a fourth-generation sailor who seemed destined for officer ranks through an ROTC scholarship. When family circumstances forced him to withdraw from MIT, he faced a pivotal choice: repay $86,000 in scholarship funds or enlist in the Navy. This decision...

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What does three decades of Navy service really look like? Through typhoons, volcanic evacuations, nuclear disasters, and war deployments, Master Chief Mike Piazza lived a career most can only imagine.

From his early days dreaming of Navy service as a 13-year-old in small-town New Jersey to becoming a respected senior enlisted leader on some of the Navy's most powerful vessels, Piazza's journey reveals the extraordinary challenges and profound rewards of military service. Working his way up from Boiler Technician to auxiliary engineering roles across multiple platforms—LSTs, amphibious ships, cruisers, and ultimately ai...

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Leadership's darkest moments rarely make it into motivational speeches or training manuals. For this former Command Master Chief of Naval Base Guam, what began as a stellar career culminated in a 10-month nightmare that pushed him to the brink.

After successfully navigating COVID-19 challenges as the only operating base in the Pacific—receiving awards and recognition for exceptional leadership—everything changed with new regional leadership and a mandated command climate survey. What followed was an investigation that dragged on without transparency, updates, or resolution for nearly a year, all while he continued perf...

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What happens when three military veterans with over 75 years of combined experience tackle one of today's most polarizing topics? In this explosive conversation, Gary Wise, Chris Cahill, and Enrique flip the script on DEI, reframing it as an IED—Inclusion, Equity, Diversity—examining how these concepts can become landmines when mishandled.

These battle-tested leaders cut through the noise with practical wisdom that transcends political divides. "If you summarize everything we've said, it goes back to where we started—it's merit-based," says Chris, capturing the essence of their straight-shooting approach. The veterans share raw, u...