Dabbling In Paddleism Podcast

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By: Chris Thomas

The Dabbling In Paddleism Podcast is an exploration of all things endurance, adventure, and ultramarathon paddling experienced through storytelling and the celebration of athletes. We'll cover everything from mental & physical training, recovery, strategy, gear, nutrition, hydration, photo-/videography, all the way through to coming out on the other end of any paddling adventure a better version of ourselves. We aim to inspire, build community, and celebrate athletes ranging from DNFs (we’ve all been there) to record breaking performances, epic expeditions, and podium finishes.

Ep. #27: Alex Somoano unfiltered on 3 years of Last Paddler Standing
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Today at 1:00 PM

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Alex Somoano, massage therapist and stand up paddle boarder originally hailing from Cuba who emigrated to the U.S. in Miami, Florida as a young child where he quickly discovered he was athletically inclined. I’ve been looking forward to this chat for a long time and it really turned out to be a fantastic conversation with a great human being. We cover so much in this episode from his origin story into paddling, a traumatic accident that started him on his journey to quote “find quality in everything”, the Crossing for Cystic...


Ep. #26: Ryan Milby - Founder of Llama Racks
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10/26/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Ryan Milby out of Missouri, who is a self-proclaimed normal dude, Chief Hobby Officer, and founder of Llama Racks. We cover so much in this episode from yet again the welcoming nature of the paddling community, his journey getting into ultramarathon paddle racing as well as starting Llama Racks, jumping in head first into the MR340 and paddling through the night for the first time during the race, attention to detail in designing his racks, available options for all human powered boats, customizable options, the importance of not giving up and proceeding...


Ep. #25: Esther Wheeler Comes Out On Top Again at the YRQ!!
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10/17/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Esther Wheeler one of the premier ultramarathon female paddlers who just came out on top again this year in the Yukon River Quest in a kayak. We cover so much in this episode from the way she entered the paddling scene through a traumatic experience on whitewater, visualization techniques, the spell of the Yukon, the Great River Club, being a board member of the YRQ, her take on the 2025 dragon boat Guinness world record for distance traveled at the MR340, the importance of giving people chances, sleep deprivation strategies, testing out the...


Ep. #25: Esther Wheeler Comes Out On Top Again at the YRQ!!
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10/12/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Esther Wheeler one of the premier ultramarathon female paddlers who just came out on top again this year in the Yukon River Quest in a kayak. We cover so much in this episode from the way she entered the paddling scene through a traumatic experience on whitewater, visualization techniques, the spell of the Yukon, the Great River Club, being a board member of the YRQ, her take on the 2025 dragon boat Guinness world record for distance traveled at the MR340, the importance of giving people chances, sleep deprivation strategies, testing out the...


Ep. #24: Michelle Bousquet - Ultra Turned Ultra Paddler & 3rd Place in the 2025 YRQ
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09/28/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Michelle Bousquet, ultramarathon runner and paddler out of Montreal who just podiumed in the 2025 Yukon River Quest in the solo female kayak class on her second attempt. We cover so much in this episode from her journey to finding ultramarathon running as well as ultramarathon paddling, her 250 mile Cocodona ultramarathon running race, sleep deprivation strategies, the 2024 and 2025 Yukon River Quest races, lessons from DNFs and hypothermia, broken rudders, the amazing wildness of the Yukon River, being a rafting guide on the Grand Canyon, and beer miles. There’s so much more to th...


Ep. #23: Alain Morvan - Never Give Up: The story of the Loire 725
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09/14/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Alain Morvan out of France who is the race director for the Loire 725, which is the longest ultramarathon paddling race in Europe. Alain started out as a whitewater paddler in his younger days and eventually made his way to ultramarathon paddling with the goal of competing in the Yukon River Quest. We cover so much in this episode from the origins and evolution of the race, his dedication to protecting the environment of the Loire river, support of the communities along the route, how a stage race helps build and support the...


Ep. #22: Ben Lott Keeps Coming Back to the Yukon
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08/31/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Ben Lott out of New Zealand who is an ultramarathon paddler, mountaineer, adventurer, trail runner, adventure racer, and equestrian who keeps finding his way back to the Yukon year after year. In addition to his adventuring exploits he is involved with the Yukon River Quest board and is involved with the race fleet as well. We cover so much in this episode from the life changing injury that brought him to paddling and the Yukon, the importance of implicitly trusting a paddling partner, the importance of giving back to the sport of...


Ep. #21: Glenn Nolan & Maureen Hatherley - Back-to-Back YRQ & Yukon 1000
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08/17/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Glenn Nolan and Maureen Hatherley out of Ontario, Canada. Glenn and Maureen are absolute gems and certainly fan and racer favorites for those that follow the Yukon 1000. They both just completed the Yukon River Quest and the Yukon 1000 in back-to-back fashion, so we take a deep dive into their grueling experience in the Yukon this year. We cover so much in this episode from their experiences in Outward Bound which was actually how they met, tackling the Yukon 1000 after 3 straight finishes in the Yukon River Quest, the pull of the Yukon and...


Ep. #20: Trey Reaves & The Tennessee River Record
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08/03/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Trey Reaves out of Alabama, who has accomplished more than most men and without the use of his legs. Trey is well known for accomplishing amazing feats in his kayak, especially recently as he just set the record for paddling the entire length of the Tennessee River in just over 7 days. We cover so much in this episode from Trey spending 2.5 years planning his record setting attempt, the Tennessee River Line organization, support and an upcoming documentary on the attempt from Mike Carson 105, massive lightening storms, what to expect when going through...


Ep. #19: Jake VanLue - 1st place male solo 2025 Suwannee 230
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07/20/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Jake VanLue out of Southwestern Missouri who recently took 1st place in the male solo kayak class in the Suwannee 230. We cover so much in this episode from inspiration and the drive to succeed he gets from his father, hypothermia interventions after going upside down on the Yukon on Lake Laberge, coaching support for ultras, the mental aspect of training and racing, the story of his male solo kayak class 1st place finish in the 2025 Suwannee 230, lessons learned from failure, rhabdomyolysis, crew support, lessons learned from a couple DNFs, and balancing training...


Ep. #18: Deed Ziegler of Recpak
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07/06/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Deed Ziegler, founder of the backcountry and adventure lightweight nutrition company, Recpak. Deed’s company was first inspired by his career in the military and solidified by aiming to solve a problem many of us face on our adventures and races in the outdoors when every ounce matters. We cover so much in this episode from his journey to creating Recpak, deliberate intention in balancing macro and micronutrient contents, focus on a health-conscious aspect with processed foods, challenges to creating a new brand, his mission to leave the world better than he fo...


Ep. #17: Dave Maitland & Scott Worthington - 2000 mile Yukon River source to sea attempt
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06/22/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Dave Maitland & Scott Worthington, two awesome Kiwis that live their lives seeking adventure and time in the outdoors. I invited them on the show to chat about their 2000 mile source to sea attempt on the Yukon River in 2024. We cover so much in this episode from their views on the current state of affairs in ultra racing, their journey that brought them the Yukon, Scott’s inspiring story and Yukon 1000 documentary with Ben Lott, their story of adventure in the Yukon and what lies beyond the Dalton Highway Bridge, gear differences in a...


Ep. #16: Bobby Johnson - Stories of the Destruction of the Human Body & Mind
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06/08/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Bobby Johnson out of Clearwater, Florida. While he certainly doesn’t admit to it, Bobby’s racing record is certainly legendary and he is highly regarded in the paddling community as one of the top paddlers on any given race day in ultramarathon paddling. Of note, we recorded this episode before the show with his 2025 Everglades Challenge teammate Brandon Grundy, but thought that the timing of the Everglades Challenge record was certainly notable enough to move that episode up to coincide more closely with the end of that race. We cover so much...


Ep. #15: David Thomas of Stellar Kayaks USA
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05/25/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with David Thomas of Stellar Kayaks USA who is both co-owner and a design team member. Of note, this is not a sponsored episode, as I simply reached out to David to come on the show because I’m a fan of their boats and especially wanted to hear about his journey and the inspiration that comes behind their paddles and kayaks. We cover so much in this episode from Stellar’s commitment to environmental responsibility, wing paddle dynamics, innovation in kayaks and surf skis, listener supported questions, seemingly unlimited variables that go into...


Ep. #14: Ryan Gillikin - 1st place 2024 female solo AL650 finisher!
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05/11/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Ryan Gillikin out of Bay Minnette, Alabama who is always a top contender in ultra paddle races and notably was the overall solo female 1st place finisher in the 2024 Alabama 650. We cover so much in this episode from her exhaustive preparation leading up to a race, creative techniques to quote “manage the mystery”, her new approach to training with a coach, Camp 650, her experience as a co-race director of the Suwannee 230 and a deep dive into that race, game changing crew tips, and most importantly the story of her solo female victory in t...


Ep. #13: Bobby Johnson & Brandon Grundy - '25 Everglades Challenge Record!!
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04/27/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Brandon Grundy and Bobby Johnson, both out of Florida, who just broke the Everglades Challenge record in the tandem kayak class without a sail. This chat is a true masterclass in how to not only succeed in bot how to set a standard for excellence in ultramarathon paddling races. We cover so much in this episode all surrounding the Everglades Challenge including the chronicles of their record setting race, route/weather/tidal/current strategies, the pros and cons of single versus double blades in a kayak or surfski, tactics to protect the...


Ep. #12: Coach Zoe Nance
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04/21/2025

In this episode Chris Thomas sits down with athlete, exercise physiologist, and veteran coach, Zoe Nance from Uphill Athlete. Zoe has spent 3 decades in the exercise physiology field guiding a very diverse group of athletes from endurance mountain and road bikers, swimmers, triathletes, mountaineers, and paddlers for efforts like 1000 mile biking and paddling races to Mount Everest summits. We cover so much in this episode from the importance of having a coach, aerobic deficiency, glucose versus fat utilization for fuel, maximizing capillary and mitochondria density, lactate as fuel, improving lactate shuttling, using exercise physiology lab tests to personalize training, heart...


Ep. #11: Dr. Alison Kole - Sleep deprivation training/mitigation (part 2)
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04/10/2025

Welcome to part 2 of 2 in my collaboration series with Dr. Alison Kole of the "Sleep is My Waking Passion Podcast." In this episode Alison and I continue our discussion on how to train for and mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation. We cover topics like caffeine naps, breathing techniques, devices to help with sleep and relaxation, supplements, and optimal sleep duration while maximizing time on the water. There's so much more to this episode, but I'll let you hear it from dr. Kole herself on the 11th episode of the Dabbling In Paddleism Podcast... Welcome to Season 6 of Sleep Is...


Ep. #10: Dr. Alison Kole - Sleep deprivation training/mitigation (part 1)
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04/03/2025

So for this episode we're going to do something a little different. First of all, my previous episodes have been released every 2 weeks, but here I'm releasing the next 2 episodes in a little quicker fashion as I partner with Dr. Alison Kole, a triple boarded pulmonary, critical care, and sleep physician that hosts the podcast Sleep is My Waking Passion. Secondly, this podcast is going to be distributed in 2 separate installments, so stay tuned for the next episode as well to hear all of her advice on how to train for and mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation. We cover...


Ep. #9: Craig Sawyer - Renaissance Man
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03/31/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Craig Sawyer, a veteran ultramarathon paddler and true renaissance man. As the filmmaker of the Yukon 1000 documentary and 2023 Yukon 1000 winner in the stand up paddle board class our main focus in this episode is around lessons learned from the longest paddle race in the world and how he’s adjusting his approach to training for his upcoming solo attempt in the 2025 Yukon River Quest. We cover so much in this episode including the importance of being a good team in the 1000, post-race blues, data points to guide training, gear and boat adjustments re...


Ep. #8: Matt Jones - Endurance Paddling & Climbing Coach
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03/16/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with Matt Jones out of Charleston, SC… a stand up paddle board racer, rock climber, and coach in both the climbing and paddling disciplines. Matt has an extensive background in which he’s coached athletes from all ages beginning with children and amateur adults all the way up to the professional level helping folks achieve national championships. I specifically invited him on the show because of one of his recent efforts coaching my guests, Jeff and John, from Episode 6 for the 2024 Yukon 1000. We cover so much in this episode from why any paddle athl...


Ep. #7: Alicia & Ruthie Reaves - Winning AL650 Crew
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03/02/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with veteran ultramarathon crew member Alicia Reaves as well as her daughter Ruthie Reaves, high school soccer player and newcomer to ultramarathon crewing. As the crew team that helped their husband and father, Trey Reaves, to first ever back-to-back overall victory in solo fashion in the Alabama 650, we go through what it means to be a first class crew for this event. We cover so much in this episode from nutrition support, wound care, old school navigation, the Alabama heat, sleep deprivation, strategizing around the challenge of an incoming hurricane, random photo shoots...


Ep. #6: Jeff Matthews & John Wellens - 2024 Yukon 1000 Team Epic
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02/19/2025

In this episode, Chris Thomas sits down with veteran paddlers Jeff Matthews and John Wellens who are definitely not novices when it comes to voluntary human suffering with paddles in hand. As recent top 5 finishers of the Yukon 1000 in the kayak class as Team Epic, we take a deep dive into their race. I specifically wanted to chat with these guys first of all, because my brother and I paddled with them early in the 2024 Yukon 1000 and realized they were just awesome dudes. Secondly, they both dealt with a great deal of adversity in their race and they rose to...


Ep. #5: Trey Reaves - 1st Overall Back-to-Back AL650 Champ in Solo Fashion!!
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01/19/2025

Chris Thomas sits down with veteran ultramarathon paddle racer, Trey Reaves, out of Florence, Alabama who just became the first ever overall back-to-back winner of the Alabama 650 as a solo racer. Trey’s performance in the ultra paddling racing world has been a real tour de force over the last several years with no signs of slowing down. We start off with his entry into the ultra racing world and even though he DNF’d in his first Alabama 650 he describes how the paddling community came out of the woodwork to encourage and inspire him to keep coming back for more...


Ep. #4: Mirko Prüfer - Veteran Ultramarathon Paddler
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01/05/2025

Today, Chris Thomas sits down with veteran paddler, Mirko Prüfer, out of Germany who got his paddle racing start on a dragonboat racing team. In this episode you’ll hear about how Mirko dove head first into the ultramarathon paddling world after a vacation trip to the Yukon where he was inspired by Yukon River Quest racers. Talk about being in the right place at the right time as this chance encounter inspired his ultramarathon racing career both in boat and on foot. I loved this conversation mostly because it gave me a chance to meet a fellow paddler tha...


Ep. #3: Greg Wingo - You're entering a world of pain... AL650/Last Paddler Standing Race Director
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12/22/2024

You’re entering a world of pain… In this episode, I chat with a mastermind in human suffering and adventure, Greg Wingo out of Alabama. As the race director of The Great Alabama 650 and Last Paddler Standing, Greg is no amateur when it comes to putting on races and adventures that and I quote… “gets as many people into enjoyable uncomfortable situations as possible.” We touch on so much in this episode, ranging from the Alabama 650, it’s growing popularity of the race amongst endurance racers, fans, and the local Alabama community. We discuss the positive impact the 650 has had on the Alaba...


Episode 2: Lindsey Tilton - 1st Female AL650 SUP Finisher!
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12/10/2024

In this episode, Chris Thomas chats with Lindsey Tilton, a dominant force in the ultramarathon paddling world out of Jupiter, Florida who just became the first female to complete the Alabama 650 on a stand-up paddle board. We hit so much on this episode, including a mutual interest in gardening and linking that to recovery tactics, which Lindsey seems to excel at. We also cover training strategies, tracking sleep scores, heart rate variability guided training, the benefits of an alcohol-free lifestyle, sleep deprivation during ultra races, and strategies around caffeine intake. We take a deep dive into research-based training and her...


Episode 1: David Miller - 2024 AL650 2nd Place Finish
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11/24/2024

Today I’m speaking with David Miller, an up-and-coming ultramarathon endurance paddler from North Carolina. We’ll talk about many of his already impressive accomplishments ranging from winning the Suwannee River 230 in 2023, claiming a world record in a dragon boat as a team effort during the 2023 MR340, and most recently his second place finish in the 2024 Alabama 650. One of the things I enjoyed hearing from him the most was how he came off of an impressively successful paddling year in 2023 to overcoming obstacles and challenges he faced during the 2024 paddling season as well as the Alabama 650 to ultimately finish second over...