Other People's Money with Max Wiethe
Other People's Money is the premier podcast about the business side of the fund management industry. Every week Max Wiethe sits down to learn from some of the best entrepreneurial fund managers about their experience launching and growing a fund management business. OPM is not a show about the next hot stock pick or big trade but an inside look at an opaque and misunderstood industry guided by real professional fund managers who've done it themselves.Follow us on:Max's Twitter: https://x.com/maxwietheOPM on Twitter: https://x.com/opmpodWatch OPM and our Partner Show Monetary Matters on YouTube...
Top Hedge Funds Are Hiding and It’s Warping Return Data | Jon Caplis of PivotalPath

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Jon Caplis, CEO and founder at PivotalPath joins Other People’s Money to discuss how underreporting of data by the top tier of hedge funds is skewing the data that institutional investors use to make allocation decisions, resulting in undeservedly poor perception of the asset class, and sign...
The Market Has Moved from Deflation to Debasement | Warren Pies
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Warren Pies, strategist and co-founder at 3Fourteen Research joins Other People’s Money to discuss how the market and economy are transitioning from a deflation to a debasement mindset. He explains why he’s bullish equities, expecting continued disinflation despite his longer-term debasement view, and expecting the Fed to cut 3 times before...
Is Leverage the Solution to America’s Retirement Crisis? | Abdul Al-Asaad of Basic Capital
Capacity Constrained by Design: The 25-Year-Old Building Niche Multi-Manager Hedge Fund Platforms | Zach Levitt

Zach Levitt, CIO and Founder of Sixth Turn Capital and Opus One Asset Management joins Other People’s Money to discuss how he is standing up multi-manager platforms at just 25 years old by focusing on niche capacity constrained managers. Levitt discusses the benefits of combining uncorrelated capacity constrained strategies in a multi-manager platform, his unconventional path to founding a multi-manager platform, how mentorship has helped accelerate his growth, and how he goes about attracting talented investors to his platform.
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What Investors Are Overlooking in AI & Semis | Val Zlatev
Val Zlatev, Portfolio Manager and Senior Partner at hard tech specialist hedge fund Analog Century Capital Management joins Other People’s Money to discuss what he thinks investors still fail to appreciate about the secular growth of AI and semiconductors. He also discusses why DeepSeek was so misunderstood, other aspects of the AI supply chain, the state of the analog chip cycle, running long/short and market neutral strategies and garnering interest from the large multi-manager platforms.
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Patient Value Investing and America’s Industrial Advantage | Bob Robotti
Bob Robotti, legendary value investor and President and CIO of Robotti and Company Advisors, is one of a very select group of investors with a 30+ year track record of S&P 500 outperformance. Here he joins Other People’s Money to discuss long-term value investing, why he likes to invest in companies perceived to be facing headwinds, and his view that American based industrial companies are competitively advantaged for reasons completely unaffected by trade policy. He also discusses how he operates both an advisory business and a broker dealer business and how the broker dealer has served as...
How Hedge Funds Have Managed Market Turmoil with Jack and Max
The first 4 months of 2025 have been highly volatile hurting both equity and fixed income investors alike, but how has the “smart money” faired in this environment? Jack and Max breakdown the performance of hedge funds in Q1 and April of 2025 with data from Citco Fund Services and HFRI. They also discuss the recent moves by Yale and Harvard to sell some of their private equity stakes and other indicators that might signal trouble ahead for PE as an asset class. Follow Jack on X: https://x.com/JackFarley96
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Hidden Mortgage Market Shifts Are Creating Opportunities | Matt Jozoff of Trevally Capital
Matt Jozoff, co-CEO, Portfolio Manager, and Head of Macro Research at Trevally Capital joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how trends like the growth in the Ginnie Mae market, low credit borrowers and non-bank originators, and other factors are affecting mortgage prepayments and creating opportunities in the mortgage market for firms like Trevally Capital. He also discusses how Trevally Capital is looking to extract alpha from these opportunities and build a world-class institutional asset manager with the backing of partners like The Raptor Group and Seaport Global Securities.
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Dodging Tariff Turmoil in Nordic High Yield Credit | MĂĄns Levin of Ridge Capital
Måns Levin, CEO and co-founder of Ridge Capital, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss why they believe the Nordic high yield credit market provides unique opportunities for double-digit returns and insolation from tariff and trade war risks. Levin discusses the exceptional start Ridge Capital has had, both in terms of performance and asset raising, the specific features and composition of the Nordic high yield market that they find most attractive, and the flexibility in strategies required to take full advantage of the opportunities they see.
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When the Market Crashes… They Profit | Wayne Himelsein on Logica Capital’s Long Volatility Playbook
Wayne Himelsein, CIO and founder of Logic Capital Advisors, joins Other People’s Money, to discuss how his hedge fund is built to profit when volatility spikes in moments just like this. Everybody wants to carry crash protection but if implemented improperly the cost of carrying hedges can bleed you dry. Finding innovative ways to solve this problem is what drives Himelsein and Logica forward and in this discussion he discusses their approach to maintaining at the money long volatility exposure without relying on spread trades to fund tail hedges.
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Trading Market Turmoil: Any System is Better than No System | OPM Trader Talks with Petr Pinkhasov of Anthem Capital Management
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Petr Pinkhasov, CIO and founder of Anthem Capital Management, joins Other People’s Money, for a special “Trader Talks” episode where he discusses how he trades incorporating quantitative signals, thematic views, and technical analysis patterns like DeMark indicators. Petr also discusses how he’s been handling the volatile start to 2025 and what forces he is attributing the market’s recent turmoil and rotations.
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From Treasury Minister of Argentina to Macro Hedge Fund Manager | Nicolás Dujovne of Tenac Asset Management
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Nicolás Dujovne, CIO and founder of Tenac Asset Management, joins Other People’s Money to discuss his path from Treasury Minister of Argentina and president of the G-20 to hedge fund manager. Despite more experience managing economies than trading them, Dujovne and his partners at Tenac have succeeded in building a 5+ year track record with no down years and an annualized rate of 17.18% net of...
Geopolitical Uncertainty is Freezing Private Capital | John Bowman of CAIA
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John Bowman, CEO of CAIA Association, the Association of Chartered Alternative Investment Analysts, joins Jack Farley on a special crossover episode of Monetary Matters and Other People’s Money to discuss the biggest trends in alternative investments. Bowman explains how Tariff uncertainty and other geopolitical factors might be the #1 factor that led to last year’s drop in PE assets, why he believes there is stil...
The Specialist Hedge Fund That Has Crushed the S&P 500 | Moez Kassam of Anson Funds
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Toronto may be the financial capital of Canada but compared to NYC or London it does not quite have the same cachet for top hedge fund managers. This might be why Moez Kassam, CIO and Founder of Anson Funds, has flown under the radar of many keeping track of the industry’s titans while growing Anson Funds to over $2b in assets under management and pu...
Inside the Alternative Investment Platform Megatrend | Alan Strauss of Crystal Capital Partners
Whether you are talking about hedge funds, private equity, private credit, or venture capital, alternative investment strategies are becoming a much larger part of the portfolios of individual investors. For many that’s being done through investment platforms targeting their registered investment advisors. Alan Strauss, senior partner at Crystal Capital Partners, joins OPM to discuss how alternative investment platforms like Crystal Capital are ushering in a new wave of adoption of alternative assets for RIAs and their clients by providing lower investment minimums, curated menus of top tier funds, and improved customization and investment “wrappers.”
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The Trends Driving the Hedge Fund Industry’s Record $4.5 Trillion in AUM | Ken Heinz of HFR Index
Ken Heinz, President of HFR Index LLC, joins Other People’s Money to break down the trends driving the hedge fund industry’s growth to a record $4.5 trillion in assets under management. HFR’s data on the industry that they collect and analyze from over 6,000 funds gives them a birds eye view of the big trends like the growth of multi-managers, crypto funds, and inflows for small and large funds alike.
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Building the Definitive Hedge Fund Analyst Masterclass | Brett Caughran on Fundamental Edge
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What does it take to succeed in one of the most competitive industries on the planet? Brett Caughran, lead trainer and founder at buyside analyst training platform Fundamental Edge is trying to codify the answer to that question and systematize the process of training hedge fund analysts. Caughran discusses the most important processes analysts must master, why understanding your role is key to success, and why building trust with your PM over years is the perhaps the...
Hedge Funds Are a Team Sport | Ilya Zaides on Continuity at 14B Capital
Hedge fund success both for their investors and operationally is almost always the result of a team effort. Ilya Zaides, CIO and Founder of 14B Capital Management, explains why this means hedge fund investors can care as much about team and key relationship stability as they do about past success.
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Russell Clark on Inverting the Long Short Hedge Fund Model and Battling Investors' Biggest Risks
Former fund manager and short seller Russell Clark has always believed that the key to adding value for investors is to solve for the biggest risks in their portfolios. He also argues it’s the key to successfully raising hedge fund assets. In this interview, Clark discusses the biggest risks he thinks investors face right now, why these risks have him considering relaunching his hedge fund after returning capital in 2021, and why if he does relaunch, he’s inverting the long short hedge fund model.
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Trading Skill Isn’t Enough to Run a Hedge Fund | Benn Eifert of QVR Advisors
Almost everyone who works in finance dreams of one day showcasing their trading or investing prowess by starting their own hedge fund, but being a good trader is only one line item in a long list of skills required to be a successful hedge fund manager. Benn Eifert, Managing Partner of QVR Advisors, who himself has built his firm into one that manages $2 billion in assets, discusses the important interpersonal skills, operational considerations, and marketing duties that also fall squarely on the shoulders of the founding portfolio manager. Eifert also touches on why pod shops have been so dominant...
Why Hedge Fund Managers Must Adapt or Die | Kyle Mowery on The Future of Small Cap Value
If you weren’t in large and often expensive technology stocks you likely struggled as a hedge fund manager in 2024. For small/mid-cap value investors like Kyle Mowery, Portfolio Manager and Founder of Grizzly Rock Capital, who’ve sold their investors a mandate that makes it nearly impossible to go buy the NVIDIAs of the world you can only fall back on communication and the clear expectations you’ve set with your investors. The problems plaguing small cap value managers are not new though, and if you are still practicing what Mowery calls “the old ways,” 2024 was likely not the first...
The Last Mutual Fund Manager Standing | How Eric Crittenden Defied the ETF Boom to Build a $1B Fund
When was the last time you heard about an exciting new mutual fund launch? It’s probably been a while. Despite ETFs, hedge funds, and burgeoning asset classes like private credit taking all the headlines, mutual funds still control over $20 trillion in AUM. So, how does one raise assets in the 2020s with a product many associate with a time gone by? Eric Crittenden, CIO and Founder of Stand Point Asset Management, joins OPM to share how his mutual fund has done just that and reached over $1 billion in AUM in less than 5 years.
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The Research to AUM Pipeline | Warren Pies on Raising $450m in an ETF in Less Than 6 Months
Having raised over $450m in less than 6 months, Warren Pies, Founder of 3Fourteen Research and Portfolio Manager of $FCTE, has had one of the most successful independent ETF launches of all time. Despite the seemingly overnight success of his fund management business, the real story is about the steady growth of his research business that feeds into everything they do.. He explains how his research business has become a pipeline of investor interest in his ETF business and how research relationships flip the traditional client interaction on its head. He also discusses why he chose to focus on setting...
Inside the Secret World of Prop Traders | Noel Smith of Convex Asset Management
Noel Smith, founder of Convex Asset Management has spent most of his career outside of the world of managing other people’s money. Instead, he traded his own capital as a proprietary trader. Prop traders are famed for generating staggering rates of return, but because they have no interest in raising money, their secrets and strategies generally remain behind closed doors. However, he has decided to bring these strategies to the hedge fund world at Convex Asset Management and while they don’t scale to produce the same level of returns their lack of availability outside the prop world give...
Active Management Still Matters in Emerging Markets | Jamie Carter
Jamie Carter, Partner and Managing Director at Variis Partners has spent much of his career focused on the world of long-only emerging-market investment boutiques. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Carter discusses the huge differences between building a long only business and a hedge fund business, why launching fund vehicles out of the UK has become more difficult, the differences in raising capital in the US, UK, and Europe, and why he thinks emerging markets are the last hold outs for fundamental active managers. He also explains why EM investors and allocators are holding their collective breath waiting to...
The Investor Up 1000% With No Down Years | Chris Brown and Aristides Capital
Since Aristides Capital’s inception in August 2008, Chris Brown has returned over 1,000% for their investors with a stunning 16-year track record of no losing years. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Brown explains how they’ve been able to sustain these results and grow their business to over $300m in AUM all while operating far from the typical financial centers where hedge funds cluster. They discuss how accumulating a plethora of lower capacity strategies, hiring and working with “well intentioned nerds,” and maintaining rigorous processes for post-hoc analysis and feedback have been some of the keys to their investment success...
The Easiest Way to Launch a Hedge Fund | Understanding Fund Spinouts with Farid Guindo
Ask anyone and they will tell you it has never been harder to start a hedge fund. That’s why so many of the most successful launches of late have been funds emerging from a prior firm with the backing of the big boss, otherwise known as spinouts. Julian Robertson’s Tiger Cubs are the perhaps most famous spinouts, but it is still an extremely popular trend today. Farid Guindo, CIO and founder of Drill Capital Management is taking advantage of these dynamics to launch his new fund with the backing of his mentor and former boss at Bornite Capi...
How To Build A Billion Dollar Hedge Fund From Scratch | Dan Rasmussen
Dan Rasmussen has built his firm Verdad Capital into a billion-dollar asset manager on the back of one core activity, producing high quality research. Since Verdad’s inception in 2014, they have produced almost 500 pieces of research that they publish on their website weekly and distribute both on Twitter and to their large email list of readers. This research serves two functions. It’s both the backbone of the strategies employed at this highly quantitative firm, and a point of connection with existing and potential investors. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Rasmussen discusses how he’s used research to showca...
Thinking Outside the Style Box | The Hedge Fund Category Problem with Louis Camhi
Hedge fund strategies like distressed, long short equities, relative value, etc. are well defined and understood by allocators. As a result, funds that fit neatly into these style boxes can easily answer the question, “what type of fund are you?” But what if you don’t fit neatly into one of these boxes? Be too exact and no one will search for your niche strategy. Push the envelope to fit into one of these boxes and suddenly investors feel like they’ve been tricked into a meeting. This is a problem that Louis Camhi, founder and CIO of RLH Capital...
Enter the Kuppyverse | Harris Kupperman on Brand Building by Blogging at Praetorian Capital
Harris Kupperman, CIO and Founder of Praetorian Capital joins Max Wiethe to share how he’s grown his firm to over $300 million in AUM, largely by breaking the institutional mold. They discuss Kupperman’s choice to build a strategy with UHNW investors and family offices in mind rather than traditional institutional investors and the benefits of a diversified base of LPs. They also discuss the firm’s blog Kuppy’s Korner, the importance of authenticity in brand building, and his choice to register the fund as a 506(c).
Clarification: At 50:48 Harris mentions that almost half the capital in the f...
To Zero and Beyond | Building Muddy Waters Capital with Carson Block
Building a successful hedge fund is hard. It’s even harder when you’re fighting the perpetual upward momentum of the market. Despite this headwind, Carson Block, CIO and Founder of Muddy Waters Capital, has made his firm into a successful fund management business and taken down billion-dollar frauds in the process. In this interview with Max Wiethe, Block explains why starting a fund became necessary to pursue activist short selling in a serious capacity, the pitfalls of capital raising and the different types of investors who are interested in specialized strategies like theirs, and how he is expanding his...
Introducing Other People's Money
Max Wiethe interviews the very best investment fund managers about the business of Other People's Money. Max is in partnership with Jack Farley and Other People's Money is part of the Monetary Matters podcast network.
Stay tuned for the first episode of Other People's Money with activist short seller Carson Block, airing in late October 2024.
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