The Space In Between Podcast

The media landscape and industry is shifting beneath our feet—and with it, our sense of trust, truth, and community. In this fun and informative episode of The Space In Between, I sit down with veteran journalist, publisher and noted media executive Emily Parkhurst to explore how news is evolving, why it matters for democracy and daily life, and how a women’s lens changes the stories we tell and the voices we hear. Together, we unpack the decline of local journalism, the transformation of the media industry, the rise of social media and AI, and the urge...

When the world feels divided and uncertain, great leadership matters most. In this episode of The Space In Between, tech CEO and leadership wisdom-keeper Everett Harper joins me for a candid, deeply human conversation about leading with integrity in challenging times. Everett reflects on his journey as a trailblazer in sports, college, as an African American tech CEO, and on his track record of innovation in his remote-first company, Truss. He shares insights from his book Move to the Edge, Declare It Center, along with practical tools like the “pre-mortem” that help leaders navigate complexity, build trust, and...

In a time of dazzling technological breakthroughs and deepening divides, how do we ensure artificial intelligence (AI) serves society in ways that elevate humanity? What can be done to ensure the right people are leading in AI-based companies and that leaders are well prepared to navigate technological, moral and ethical dilemmas now and in the future?  In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with the brilliant and well-respected technologist Liat Ben-Zur to explore this question with both candor and nuance. With more than 25 years of leadership experience at companies like Microsoft, Philips, and Q...

Most of us are wired to celebrate beginnings — a new job, a fresh relationship, the launch of a project. But what about endings? In this week’s episode of The Space In Between, I reflect on a rarely discussed yet vital topic: how to honor and 'do' endings well. Drawing from personal stories, social psychology research, and years of leadership experience, I explore why marking endings with intention helps us grow, find clarity, and step into what’s next with greater agency. Endings are not just about loss — they are also about transition, meaning, and the possibility of renewal. Learning...

In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with Dawn Trudeau—trailblazing civic leader, early Microsoft executive, and one of the majority owners of the WNBA’s Seattle Storm. We explored why women’s sports are having a cultural moment, how the Storm has built a franchise rooted in values and community, and what it takes to lead with conviction while bridging divides. From growing up in conservative Iowa to shaping tech and sports history, Dawn offers deeply personal lessons on believing in yourself, finding courage when the road ahead is unclear, and how she and her pa...

In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh invites us to explore a subtle but powerful force shaping our personal and public lives: the language we use —especially when it slips into “all-or-nothing” thinking. From our workplaces and friendships to dinner table debates and political discourse, extreme language can harden our hearts, box us into limiting, binary choices, and disconnect us from seeing each other as fully human. The good news: with a little awareness and practice, we can shift our habits, soften our speech, and become leaders who inspire clarity, connection, and change. Leigh shares her reflections on how...

Back by popular demand! This engaging podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also share...

In this interesting and timely episode of The Space In Between podcast, I sit down with the Honorable Suzi LeVine, former Ambassador to Switzerland, to explore the changing role of the United States on the global stage, the intersection of public and private leadership, and the nuanced art of bridging divides during times of disruption. With decades of experience across government, diplomacy, and the tech sector, Suzi brings insight, clarity, and grounded optimism to a moment that demands all three. She also drops some keen insights about the role of ambassadors and how she navigated tricky labor relations and...

On this week’s episode of The Space In Between, Leigh sat down with Aimée Christensen — a longtime and noted climate leader, bridge-builder, and someone whose roots run deep in both global halls of power and the soils of Idaho, her beloved home state. With active retrenchment by the current administration in the fight against global warming in full swing, this episode is key for anyone wanting the 'real story' on what is, and is not happening, on climate change. My conversation with Aimée is rich with wisdom, clarity, and the kind of insight that comes only from d...

In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh explores the concept of grievance—a mix of resentment and unmet expectations that, when left unresolved, erodes trust and connection. Drawing on sobering data from the 2025 Edelman Trust Barometer, she highlights how widespread grievance is fueling distrust, polarization, and fragmentation across society. Through personal stories and leadership lessons, Leigh offers three powerful practices to help shift this culture: pause before reacting, practice daily gratitude, and seek out other seekers. Listeners are reminded that even in divided times, small, intentional acts of compassion and civility can rebuild trust and pl...

The U.S. higher education sector is undergoing profound transformation — and not always by choice. At the intersection of political ideology, funding cuts, and rapidly shifting technologies, colleges and universities find themselves caught in a storm of scrutiny, resentment, and reinvention. From heated debates over diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) to questions about the value of degrees and the impact of AI, higher ed is at a crossroads like never before.

In this timely episode, I sat down with the remarkable Ann Kirschner — entrepreneur, academic leader, innovator, and storyteller — to explore what’s really happening across t...

The Space in Between isn’t about finding the middle — it’s about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spa...

In this episode, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Matt McIlwain—managing director at Madrona Venture Group, respected civic leader in Seattle, and fellow board member at the Fred Hutch Cancer Center—for a thoughtful and deeply human conversation. Together, they explore questions at the intersection of tax policy, constructive dialogue, and the responsibilities we carry as citizens navigating a polarized time. While their views on policy may differ they both have a shared commitment to curiosity, listening, and mutual respect provided a model for how to talk through even the most emotive and controversial topics. One of those topics, tax poli...

On today’s episode, I explore what it means to seek out fellow seekers in a time of deep division. Seekers are people who are curious, open-minded, and committed to learning—by instinct and by choice. If you’re listening to this podcast, chances are you’re a seeker too. I share a personal story about an unexpected and meaningful connection with my March 19th podcast guest, Lemon Price. Lemon is a fellow seeker who happens to hold very different political views than I do. She is an avid Trump supporter, and is thoughtful about why. Her story, and our dial...

AI technologies promise to revolutionize societies, economies, and interpersonal connections by affecting how organizations and individuals interact. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan leads a compelling conversation with noted AI & tech investor Heather Redman on these critical topics. Heather gives an insightful overview of the current state of AI and its implications for business, society, and the risks and opportunities that are on the radar. The discussion also touches on interesting use-cases for AI that are seriously mind blowing.  Leigh and Heather also explore moral and ethical considerations of general AI and how – despite many risks to the contrary – AI to...

In an age where artificial intelligence is significantly transforming industries and our daily lives, the role of leadership in organizations is undergoing rapid transformation. In this episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Christie Smith, a noted thought leader in leadership and organizational performance, to discuss the need for a new paradigm in leadership. Christie's new book, *Essential: How Distributed Teams, Generative AI, and Global Shifts Are Creating a New Human-Powered Leadership*, challenges the conventions of twentieth-century leadership and presents a framework for a future where AI tools and technology touches all parts of our...

In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I also explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me...

Today's episode is an exploration of empowerment, leadership, and the transformative power of intentionality in today’s hyper polarized world. Leigh's guest today is a truly inspirational leader - the incomparable Shelmina Abji.  Shelmina’s journey from humble beginnings in Tanzania to becoming a top executive at IBM serves as a beacon for aspiring leaders everywhere, as does her best-selling book Show Your Worth.  Leigh and Shelmina dive into the complexities of our dynamic world, and talk about how to stay in your ‘power quotient’ – a place of high agency and intention regardless of the circumstances that work, life, or elections...

In a world increasingly divided by political and social ideologies, it's crucial to explore topics that might seem polarizing but are deeply impactful.  This week, we continue dialogue on a topic adjacent to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI): ‘Wokeness’.  Join host Leigh Morgan delves into these complex themes with guest Sally Kohn, former FOX News contributor, media coach, TED speaker and author of "The Opposite of Hate." Sally shares her take on wokeness, the new administration, structural dimensions of inequality and how, despite deep divisions in society, we can bridge divides and not surrender one's values.

In light of recent controversy about the Dept. of Defense leaders & other cabinet members conducting classified war planning in an unsecure text app #SignalGate - I'm reposting a powerful episode of The Space In Between Podcast  that showcases the very best of our armed forces and integrity-based leadership. I speak with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey f...

In this really interesting episode of "The Space In Between Podcast", host Leigh Morgan sat down with Sandy Mollett, a distinguished thought leader in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Mollett, known for her extensive experience as a corporate executive and bridge builder across divides, shares her insights into the complex landscape of DEI in today’s often polarized world. Leigh and Sandy go deep, exploring the evolution of DEI, why the topic is so controversial and evokes strong reactions across the political spectrum.  They also consider how to actually cultivate connection with folks who are big supporters of DEI’s asp...

In this really interesting episode of "The Space In Between Podcast", host Leigh Morgan sat down with Sandy Mollett, a distinguished thought leader in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Mollett, known for her extensive experience as a corporate executive and bridge builder across divides, shares her insights into the complex landscape of DEI in today’s often polarized world. Leigh and Sandy go deep, exploring the evolution of DEI, why the topic is so controversial and evokes strong reactions across the political spectrum.  They also consider how to actually cultivate connection with folks who are big supporters of DEI’s asp...

In this episode of The Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Lemon Price—an incredibly popular podcaster, entrepreneur, and social media influencer from southeast Georgia—to explore her perspectives on Trump and the MAGA movement. Lemon shares her faith-inspired journey from supporting Obama in two elections to voting for Trump in 2016 and 2024. She reflects on her commitment to women's empowerment and why she stands behind many (but not all) of Trump's policies and isn't very concerned about his tone and penchant for lying. This enlightening conversation demonstrates the power of dialogue across ideological differences, and how trust can...

In a world marked by increasing polarization and fragmentation, effective leadership demands the ability to navigate complexity, make informed decisions, and maintain perspective amidst relentless change and pressure. How can leaders rise to the occasion, stay grounded, and drive performance?

My guest, Kaye Foster, offers deep insights and wisdom on this very topic. As one of the corporate sector’s most respected and inspiring leaders, Foster draws from her faith practice and unwavering commitment to helping her portfolio companies, colleagues, and clients reach their fullest potential. She emphasizes the importance of grounding leadership in core beliefs and va...

Today's episode is epic! Join guest Dr. Lakshmi Karan, alongside her fellow visionaries at LunArc, is pioneering a movement that reframes our approach to space travel. Their goal is to ensure that humanity's journey to the moon transcends mere technological achievement, becoming instead an exercise in cooperation, humility, and democratic participation. We get 'the basics' from Dr. Karan on the status of space exploration, LunArc's key role, how she thinks about space exploration at a time of great polarization here on earth. Some serious wisdom is dropped about not just a future in space, but how...

In the latest episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan delves into the controversial topics of Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) frameworks and the evolving role of businesses in society. Joined by guest Allison Taylor, a professor of practice at NYU Stern School of Business and an expert in business ethics, the conversation uncovers insightful perspectives on ESG including hopes and criticisms from both the left and the right, and the challenging nature of business ethics today. We also talk about Taylor's critically acclaimed book Higher Ground: How Business Can Do the Right Thing in a...

In an era marked by heightened political polarization, how do we foster constructive dialogue and bipartisan collaboration? This question is at the heart of this episode of the "Space In Between" podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, where former Wisconsin Republican State Senator Joan Ballweg shares her experiences and insights after decades as an elected official. Known for being a pragmatic and principled public servant, Ballweg offers a refreshing perspective on the nuances of politics, her take on Republican and Democratic approaches to governance, and shares stories from a state known for bucking national political trends. 

In today’s episode, we delve into the remarkable and inspiring stories of two sisters, Farishta and Hakima Afzaly, who left Taliban-controlled Afghanistan in search of a better life. They are now powerful advocates for women's rights & they have a lot to say about the situation in their home country.  We learn about the harsh reality for women in Afghanistan, and especially for Shia Hazara women who face ethnic and religious persecution in addition to gender discrimination. They also share stories of resiliency, strength amidst harsh realities, and their love of Afghan culture.  The Afzaly sisters drop some serious wisd...

If there is one theme that animates across all #TheSpaceInBetween podcasts, it is the importance of storytelling for bridging divides and as a critical tool for effective leadership. In today's chaotic world, steady, high integrity leadership is of utmost importance. In this episode, we explore how leaders can harness storytelling to be their most powerful selves - and how to leverage AI tools to augment their impact. Guests MeiMei Fox, a NYT best-selling author, and Colleen Schell, founder of FABx, share incredible energy and insights from years as leaders, storytellers, and storytelling coaches. They drop some serious wisdom about...

In today’s socio-political climate, spaces for open dialogue and constructive conversations are both rare and essential. In this episode of The Space In-Between podcast, I had the privilege of hosting Ashani O’Mard to discuss the affordable housing crisis in America. Drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise as a national leader in housing, Ashani explains the key factors driving the lack of affordable housing and shares actionable ways the public and private sectors can collaborate to address this crisis.

Today’s episode dives into the dynamic world of data and innovation and leadership lessons in bridging divides across sectors. Our guest, Ann Mei Chang, brings shares insights from her interesting career which spans Google, the U.S. State Department, US Agency for International Development (USAID), and her current role as CEO of Candid. We discuss workplace cultures, the challenges of leading change, and the importance of understanding motivations and incentives that shape organizational performance. We also explore how leaders can best bridge divides across dimensions of difference.  

Today’s podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build s...

In the increasingly polarized discourse on immigration, it is essential to create spaces where nuanced and insightful conversations can thrive. In this episode, we delve into the complex realities of immigration in the U.S. with Maggie Mitchell Salem, the Executive Director of IRIS and a leading expert in the field. We explore the misconceptions, realities, challenges, opportunities, and the evolving landscape of immigration, while offering a hopeful perspective on how to navigate difficult conversations around this topic.

This podcast features Mary S. Moore, a global leader in the culinary and housewares sector. Moore and host Leigh Morgan explore food's role as an expression of cultural heritage and a conduit for creating connections across diverse communities. Through personal stories and insights, Moore illustrates how shared culinary experiences can build understanding in our often-divided world. The conversation also addresses critical challenges in our food system, including declining food quality, limited access to healthy options, and the health impacts of increased processed food consumption. Moore concludes with practical guidance for bringing people together through food, regardless of their background...

In this episode of the Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan speaks with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role...

In this episode of the Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan discusses the evolving landscape of media with award-winning journalist and podcast producer, Arjun Singh. They explore the reasons for the dramatic decline in trust with traditional media, the rise of ideologically inspired media platforms, and how media eco-chambers fuel the proliferation of division. Singh emphasizes the concept of fairness over objectivity in journalism, and the challenges traditional media face in adapting to the digital era. 

They also address issues like low news literacy among the public and the importance of consuming news from multiple sources t...

In this episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan explores perceptions and misconceptions about crime with her guest, Durham County, NC District Attorney Satana Deberry.  They discuss innovative, local strategies to improve public safety, support victims, hold offenders accountable, uplift communities and reduce systemic inequities. Along the way, DA Deberry gets right to the hard  in her signature plain spoken, authentic and direct manner.

Deberry shares her insights on the role of a district attorney, the truth about crime rates and importance of addressing what drives most crimes: substance abuse and mental health issues. Th...

Hyper-polarization has permeated many public schools, creating divisions and diverting focus from providing quality education, supporting students, and ensuring that teachers have the resources they need to do their best work. In this discussion, we speak with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano, who sheds light on ideological battles taking place in rural, politically conservative districts and shares inspiring stories of principled 'school moms' who are working to save public education from extremism. We also examine how rural communities foster unity even in times of deep, local division, offering examples that can inspire communities everywhere.

UPDATE In this episode of the "Space in Between" podcast, host Leigh Morgan interviews innovation strategist and futurist Zenia Tata on tackling global challenges like climate change through innovative strategies that change hearts and minds.  Zenia introduces us to the concept of the "long future," encouraging us to think beyond immediate solutions and consider the implications of our actions on future generations. Resilience, she explains, is the key to navigating the challenges that lie ahead. 

By focusing on creating climate solutions grounded in diverse perspectives, science, and collaborating across dimensions of difference, Zenia emphasizes the importance of bo...