It's A Pod Deal: Ministry Conversations With Lifelong Pastor Ronnie Worsham

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"It's a God Deal." Anyone who knows Ronnie Worsham has heard him say this countless times. After being in ministry and leading in churches for decades, how does someone like Ronnie continue to see God at work in our world, and give him credit every chance he gets? Join hosts William Royal and John Von Runnen as they ask Ronnie questions about following Jesus in ministry, work, family, and the ups and downs of life.

A Tribute to Tana: Reflections on Love, Loss, and Faithfulness
#42
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In this heartfelt episode of 'It's a Pod Deal,' we honor the memory of Tana Worsham, wife of Pastor Ronnie Worsham, who recently passed away.  Ronnie shares deeply personal stories and reflections from the last few weeks, including their journey through Tana's cancer battle and her passing. The episode explores themes of faith, vulnerability, and God's faithfulness, providing a touching tribute to Tana's life and legacy. Ronnie recounts their life together, their struggles and triumphs, and the unwavering support from their faith community. He also reflects on the recent memorial service for Tana and the unexpected challenges he f...


Discovering Jesus: The Problem of Sin
#41
11/13/2025

Ronnie joins William and John to discuss Lesson 4 of the "Discovering Jesus" workbook, focusing on The Problem of Sin. They begin with listener questions, addressing topics from the spiritual insights of Michael Heiser to the nature of covenant friendships. Transitioning into the main lesson, they delve into where sin originated, its nature, and why it’s such a significant issue. Ronnie explains the impacts of sin, both spiritually and physically, and emphasizes the importance of understanding God's nature to fully grasp the severity of sin. The episode concludes with a reflective conversation on identifying specific sins and recognizing their co...


Discovering Jesus: The Story of the Bible (pt. 2)
#40
10/29/2025

We're back! It's time to continue the journey through the workbook 'Discovering Jesus.' Ronnie, John, and William pick up on offering a flyover of important biblical narratives from Genesis to the story of Moses. They share personal reflections on their spiritual journeys, the role of scripture in forming faith, and the importance of understanding the Bible's larger narrative. The episode closes with a heartfelt song and prayer, emphasizing the enduring and enriching nature of a deep relationship with God and scripture.

00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
00:55 Life Updates and Personal Stories
03:48 Podcast Resumption and Listener...


Discovering Jesus: The Story of the Bible (pt. 1)
#39
10/09/2025

William, Ronnie, and John continue through Ronnie's self-study workbook 'Discovering Jesus.' The focus of their conversation is the foundational story of the Bible, its key scriptures, and the intention behind specific lessons. Ronnie provides insights into the creation, the fall of man, and the curse that followed, emphasizing the importance of understanding these stories. The hosts delve into various theological concepts, such as the literal versus metaphorical interpretations of the Bible, and how historical and contemporary perspectives can be reconciled. This episode also includes a robust discussion on how to help individuals deepen their faith and understanding through...


Discovering Jesus: The Inspiration of the Bible
#38
09/25/2025

The hosts delve into the importance of understanding the inspiration and authority of the Bible. Ronnie explains the higher understanding of biblical inspiration, highlighting its divine nature while acknowledging human elements in scripture. They explore key scriptures such as Psalm 119, John 1, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, James 1:22-25, and Matthew 7:13-24, emphasizing the importance of genuine faith and righteous living. The episode concludes with a reflection on the reliability of the prophetic messages and a heartfelt hymn to wrap up the session.

00:00 Welcome and Introductions
01:05 Comic Relief and Banter
03:27 A Moment of Prayer
04:32 Discovering Jesus: Introduction
06:23...


Discovering Jesus: The Design of the Bible
#37
09/09/2025

John, William, and Ronnie embark on a deep dive into the first lesson of Ronnie's self-study workbook, 'Discovering Jesus.' They touch on the historical context and design of the Bible, its Old and New Testament structure, and provide practical advice for seeking a deeper relationship with God. The episode begins with a listener question about seeking God in daily life, leading to an insightful discussion filled with personal anecdotes and illustrative metaphors.

00:30 Introducing the Study Series
02:04 Listener Question: Seeking God
04:17 Practical Ways to Seek God
11:03 Building Relationships and Sharing Faith
21:38 Soft Closes...


Discovering Jesus Series
#36
08/27/2025

In this episode John, William, and Ronnie discuss the importance of one-on-one discipleship and delve into Ronnie's book, 'Discovering Jesus.' The conversation includes personal stories from Ronnie's life and ministry, the development of his study guide, and the essential role of relationship-building in spreading the Gospel. The episode also touches on listener feedback about the podcast's length and how the team aims to create deep, meaningful content. Finally, Ronnie shares insights into his dedication to Jesus and expresses gratitude for the family of churches that have supported his journey.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:35 Bumper Stickers and...


Camps and Retreats: Building Community and Faith
#35
08/13/2025

William and Ronnie delve into the second part of their discussion on the philosophy behind camps and retreats. They reflect on their recent CTF camp experience in Sacramento, New Mexico, highlighting the spiritual impact these events have on their youth. The conversation touches on the importance of camps in building disciples, fostering community, and creating lasting memories. The hosts also address listener questions about the origins of their theme song and the role of technology in building relationships. They emphasize the value of real-life interactions and mentorship, sharing personal stories and insights on guiding the next generation in faith.<...


Camps and Retreats: The Strategic Vision
#34
08/07/2025

This episode delves into the strategic importance of camps and retreats within their overall ministry mission. It highlights Ronnie's extensive experience, having participated in over a hundred camps and retreats over 50 years. The conversation touches on the practical and philosophical approaches to organizing these events, as well as the immense impact they have on the spiritual growth of children and teenagers. The discussion also explores the challenges faced in aligning parental expectations, societal pressures, and church traditions with the ministry's vision of making and maturing disciples. Personal anecdotes, stories of impactful moments, and the logistical considerations of running such...


Seeking and Finding God Through the Bible (Part 2)
#33
07/30/2025

In this episode Ronnie, William, and John continue the discussion about how to seek and find God through scripture and creation. They discuss the importance of the Great Invitation, the Great Commission, and the Great Commandment. Ronnie gives insights into various Bible passages including Isaiah 55, Matthew 11, and Psalm 19, explaining how creation reveals God's presence and order. The episode also touches on practical aspects like prayer, meditation, and the importance of Christian fellowship in aligning our lives with God’s purpose. Special emphasis is placed on personal stories and Biblical teachings to highlight how God’s grace and wisdom can mani...


Seeking and Finding God Through the Bible (Part 1)
#32
07/23/2025

In this episode, the hosts dive into the topic of seeking and finding God through the Bible. They explore how to use scriptures to develop a personal relationship with God, the importance of understanding the different sections and contexts of the Bible, and how intentional reading can help enrich faith. The conversation also touches on balancing spirit-inspired revelation with utilizing various Bible study tools. Through personal anecdotes, including Ronnie’s reflections on significant biblical passages and the role of scripture in life’s hardest moments, the discussion emphasizes the importance of seeking God with all one's heart and finding righ...


How Can Scripture Shape the Way We Think?
#31
07/15/2025

Ronnie, John, and William engage in a conversation about different perspectives on scripture, the importance of understanding biblical context, and reconciling scientific understanding with faith. The discussion includes humorous anecdotes, reflections on biblical teachings, and the significance of a faith that actively engages with scripture. Pastor Worsham emphasizes the need for flexibility in interpretation and the value of lifelong learning in faith.

00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter
00:34 Nun Beatboxing Video
01:37 Ronnie's India Experience
05:08 Transition to Bible Discussion
06:09 Using Scripture Practically
07:43 Prayer and Focus
08:50 Ronnie's Approach to Scripture
27:45 Simplicity in Doctrine and...


What frustrates Ronnie about scripture?
#30
07/01/2025

In this episode of 'It's A Pod Deal Ministry Conversations', Lifelong Pastor Ronnie Worsham shares remarkable personal experiences with demonic encounters, drawing from his deep faith and background in both science and ministry. The discussion includes insights on how to navigate biblical complexities, the importance of interpreting scripture both contextually and spiritually, and reflections on the interplay between the seen and unseen realms. The episode concludes with a powerful prayer, emphasizing the ongoing struggle against spiritual forces and the profound impact of faith.

00:00 Introduction and Greetings
00:21 Birthday Celebrations and Grandpa Jokes
03:41 Listener Question: Demonic Encounters<...


How Can We Learn to Read the Bible Like Grown-Ups?
#29
06/24/2025

Many of us first encountered the Bible as children—but how do we grow beyond Sunday school versions of the story? In this episode, Ronnie and William discuss the challenges of maturing in your understanding of Scripture, and why it’s so important to see the Bible as a complex, beautiful, and sometimes difficult story meant to be wrestled with over a lifetime.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:52 Discussing the Bible: Why Another Series?
05:08 Listener Question: Charismatic Gifts of the Spirit
07:20 Diving Deeper into the Charismatic Movement
10:57 The Role of Love in Spiritual Gifts
24:32 Pers...


Dark Moments of the Soul (Part 2)
#28
06/17/2025

Ronnie, John, and William engage in a candid discussion about addressing the dark moments of the soul. The conversation explores themes of pain, suffering, and faith crises, with Ronnie sharing personal experiences and insights gained from his lifelong journey in ministry. The episode delves into the importance of reflecting on and processing life's darker moments to seek healing and growth. By offering both anecdotal and scriptural perspectives, Ronnie emphasizes the role of God’s grace and the power of community in navigating these challenging times. The episode also highlights the role of therapy, forgiveness, and self-acceptance in overcoming past tr...


Dark Moments of the Soul (Part 1)
#27
06/10/2025

John and William join Ronnie to discuss the topic of 'Dark Moments of the Soul.' The episode begins with a prayer and a listener question from Grant Trotter about the doctrine of inclusion. Ronnie shares his insights on the subject, addressing how modern evangelical churches practice inclusion. The conversation then transitions into the main topic, where Ronnie delves deeply into personal and biblical dark moments, examining their significance and the lessons they hold. Biblical stories such as those of Moses, Samuel, David, Elijah, and Jesus are explored to illustrate the concept. Ronnie also reflects on his own life...


Messages to the Churches (Part 3)
#26
06/03/2025

Ronnie, William, and John, dive into part 3 of the 'Messages to the Churches' series. The episode begins with a prayer, followed by a discussion targeting various groups within the church community, including leaders, recently married couples, new parents, middle-aged adults, older members, the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the underemployed, and more. Ronnie shares wisdom on building a Christ-centered home, addressing marital issues, preparing for parenthood, and managing middle age and older years gracefully. He also offers advice on acknowledging and utilizing one's struggles for God's glory, staying humble, spirit-led, and unified, and always remembering one's roots. The episode closes with...


Messages to the Churches (Part 2)
#25
05/26/2025

Ronnie Worsham continues where he left off on last week's episode, walking through a series of messages to different groups among our churches and ministries. Alongside hosts John Von Runnen and William Royal, Ronnie shares his insights and reflections on various aspects of church life and leadership. The episode touches on multiple themes including the importance of making church engaging for children, the role of young adults in the church community, and the qualities of effective leadership. Ronnie emphasizes the need for humility, character development, and the importance of maintaining the church's mission without institutionalizing it. He also stresses...


Messages to the Churches (Part 1)
#24
05/19/2025

'Messages to the Churches,' was inspired by a request to write letters in the style of Jesus's letters in Revelation. Ronnie reflects on his journey in ministry, sharing stories and wisdom for various church groups, including senior pastors, church members, campus ministry leaders, and young adults. Ronnie emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and continuous spiritual growth while offering practical advice and encouragement to both current and future generations. The episode concludes with a heartfelt prayer for the continuity and success of their ministries.

00:00 Introduction and Opening Prayer
02:01 Messages to the Churches: An Overview
09:01...


The Doctrine of Inclusion (Part 2)
#23
05/12/2025

William, John, and Ronnie delve into the second part of their mini-series on the Doctrine of Inclusion. The discussion explores the importance of inclusivity in Christian communities, contrasting it with more traditional, exclusionary practices. The pastors stress that true doctrine matters and should be rooted in humility and love. They emphasize the necessity of unity among church members and the inclusion of diverse people in their fellowship, highlighting the importance of love, understanding, and the teachings of Jesus. The conversation also touches on the responsibility of church leadership in maintaining doctrinal integrity while fostering an inclusive environment that reflects...


The Doctrine of Inclusion (Part 1)
#22
04/28/2025

William, Ronnie, and JVR discuss the concept of the Doctrine of Inclusion within Christian fellowship. Addressing an important listener question about why God allows suffering and loss, Ronnie provides a comprehensive and theologically rich response. The conversation shifts to the Doctrine of Inclusion, delving into its philosophical, cultural, and scriptural underpinnings. The episode underscores the importance of inclusive fellowship by examining various epistemological influences like pre-modernism, modernism, and post-modernism, and how these shape contemporary faith practices. Emphasizing the value of accepting and teaching those who call Jesus 'Lord,' the discussion highlights the necessity of understanding and adapting to...


Pursuing Godly Parenting Wisdom Amid the Chaos of Internet Advice (Parenting Part 2)
#21
04/14/2025

The discussion continues from the previous episode, touching on various aspects of parenting from a Christian perspective. Ronnie, John, and William discuss significant insights and experiences on how to discipline, communicate with, and shape children to be godly individuals. The conversation includes reflections on how to handle different parenting stages, the importance of being part of a community, the challenges of parenting adult children, and practical advice for parents who feel they're losing their children or have children who have drifted away from faith. Ronnie's 25 practical tips for parenting wrap up the episode, providing valuable advice for all parents.<...


Raising Kids Who Love God and Church (Parenting Part 1)
#20
03/31/2025

In this episode, Ronnie, John, and William discuss the challenges and strategies of raising children to love Jesus in today's world. Covering everything from marriage preparation to teenage years, Ronnie shares personal experiences and valuable insights on building a godly family culture. The conversation highlights the importance of church involvement, peer influences, and intentional parenting. Full of practical advice and wisdom, this episode is a must-listen for parents looking to nurture a genuine love for God in their children.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:16 Discussing the Podcast Title
00:55 Introducing Today's Topic: Parenting and Family Life
01:23 Challenges...


How can we understand God through the Bible? (Bible Part 2)
#19
03/17/2025

In this episode, Ronnie shares his insights and personal journey on understanding and teaching the Bible. The discussion begins with an update on Tana's battle with cancer, and then delves into the complexities and nuances of interpreting the Bible. Key topics include the organic nature of the scripture, the importance of a Christ-centered approach, and revisiting traditional views on women’s roles in church leadership. This episode offers a reflective and profound look at faith, interpretation, and the ever-evolving understanding of scripture.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:51 Ronnie's Personal Update on Tana's Health
02:13 Reflections on Grief and Li...


What is the Bible? (Bible Part 1)
#18
03/04/2025

This week Ronnie, John, and William delve into a comprehensive discussion about the Bible. They explore different ways to interpret scripture, peeling back the layers to uncover deeper meanings and applications for both individuals and churches. Ronnie shares insights on balancing faith and engagement in politics, reflecting on the complexities of interpreting the Bible beyond a rule-based approach. The conversation touches on the Bible's origins, the challenges of biblicism, and how to cultivate a meaningful relationship with scripture. The episode concludes with practical advice for new believers and those unfamiliar with the Bible, recommending starting with the Gospel of...


What does Balance look like in Faith, Work, Leisure, and Relationships?
#17
02/18/2025

In this episode William, John, and Ronnie dive into part two of a discussion on integrating faith into all aspects of life. They explore how to make Jesus Lord of every area, including home, work, and friendships. Ronnie shares his insights on church governance, elder responsibilities, and the nuances of church leadership. The conversation touches on fundamentalism, scriptural interpretations, and the challenges of maintaining the mission of Christ within modern church structures. The episode concludes with practical advice on balancing roles and responsibilities in life while keeping Jesus at the center.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:12 Recap of...


Blending and Coordinating our Roles at Home, Church, Work and in Society
#16
02/03/2025

Ronnie Worsham, William Royal, John Von Runnen, and special guest Aaron Knowles, delve deep into the complexities of balancing various life roles as Christians. The conversation covers managing work, family, church, and societal responsibilities while staying true to one's faith. Aaron shares his experiences as an executive, associate pastor, and father of twins, providing practical insights on integrating faith in daily life. The hosts also tackle topics like setting boundaries, maintaining a healthy spiritual life, and practical advice on how to live for God in every area of life. This episode is rich with relatable anecdotes, and actionable advice...


From Churchgoers to Disciples: What is discipleship?
#15
01/20/2025

In this episode we delve into discipleship. The discussion begins by addressing a listener's question regarding loneliness and social anxiety, where Ronnie emphasizes how certain struggles choose us and the importance of fighting against them with faith and practical steps. The podcast then transitions into an in-depth conversation about discipleship, contrasting it with mere church membership or Christian identity. Ronnie shares his experiences and the evolution of his understanding of being a disciple, stressing the importance of following Jesus' teachings, bearing fruit, and investing in personal relationships within the church. The episode concludes with insights on maintaining humility and...


Bridging Faith and Mental Health: Continuing the Conversation on Anxiety and Depression
#14
01/06/2025

This episode follows the previous episode about anxiety and depression, please listen to the previous episode first if you haven't already. This week's discussion touches on the importance of Christian community support, the role of interpersonal relationships, and practical strategies like light therapy and appropriate use of medication. Further, it contrasts Christian approaches with secular ones and discusses the trend of self-medicating with intoxicants. The discussion also highlights resources like counseling and support groups, emphasizing the critical nature of community and faith-based support systems.

00:00 Introduction and Sensitive Topics Disclaimer
00:39 Welcome Back and Bumper Sticker Giveaway
03:09...


Battling Anxiety and Depression
#13
12/23/2024

William Royal and John Von Runnen have an in-depth discussion with Ronnie Worsham on the pressing topics of anxiety and depression. The conversation touches on personal experiences, pastoral counseling insights, and the societal factors fueling these issues. Ronnie shares his own lifelong struggles with depression, offers therapeutic advice, and emphasizes the importance of faith and community in dealing with mental health challenges.

00:00 Welcome and Introductions
01:17 Discussing Listener Questions
02:14 Introducing the Topic: Anxiety and Depression
04:35 Ronnie's Insights and Personal Experience
07:50 Defining Anxiety and Depression
08:56 The Interconnectedness of Mind and Body
10:11 Clinical Definitions...


How Can We Sustain and Grow Our Relationship With God?
#12
12/09/2024

William and Ronnie delve into the complexities of nurturing and growing a relationship with God. To start off, Ronnie addresses a listener's question about balancing one's identity as a disciple with other significant life roles. The discussion extends to the importance of spiritual disciplines, community, personal experiences, and how encountering God's love manifests through everyday relationships and actions. The episode closes with a heartfelt song and prayer, reaffirming that our ultimate hope, joy, and peace come from God.

00:00 Welcome and Introduction

01:24 Listener Question: Balancing Identities

03:23 The Role of Identity in Christianity

07:10...


What Does it Mean to Have a Relationship with God?
#11
11/25/2024

In this week's conversation, John, William, and Ronnie discuss what it means to truly have a relationship with God. Drawing on Scripture, personal stories, and years of ministry experience, they explore how faith matures over time, how to build unity in the church, and how to navigate challenges in discipleship. This episode encourages listeners to reflect on their own walk with God and how to engage meaningfully with others in their community.


[00:00] - Welcome and Setting the Stage

The hosts kick off the episode with introductions and humor, sharing the focus of the conversation...


Loneliness and Belonging
#10
11/18/2024

In this episode Ronnie, John, and William discuss the topic of loneliness, somewhat initiated by an article from Christianity Today. John starts the conversation, highlighting recent discussions among church leaders about the increasing prevalence of loneliness. Ronnie shares his foundational notes, emphasizing the need for balanced emotional health, community, and a strong relationship with God. The episode touches on the effects of loneliness, the role of social media, and practical steps to build meaningful relationships within church communities. The conversation also delves into personal experiences, pastoral care, and the importance of mutual vulnerability in fostering deep connections.

00:00...


Bringing Jesus into our Conflicts
#9
11/11/2024

Ronnie, John, and William have a discussion on handling conflict, a universal experience. The discussion begins with listener questions, highlighting themes of empathy, deep care for others, and the challenges of loving difficult people. Ronnie addresses various types of conflict, especially within marriages, families, churches, workplaces, and communities. He outlines different conflict management approaches and emphasizes the importance of prayer, honest self-reflection, and practical strategies for resolving disputes. The episode underscores the need for peacemaking as a core Christian value, rooted in the teachings of Jesus and the imperative to love and serve others selflessly. Concluding with the significance...


Navigating Politics as Followers of Jesus
#8
11/04/2024

In this episode Ronnie, John, and William engage in an extensive discussion on the intersection of politics and faith. They address the importance of understanding one's own political and spiritual journey, highlighting influences from personal experiences and scripture. Key topics include approaching politics with a kingdom mindset, living above the fray of earthly political battles, the spiritual responsibilities of Christians, and living as exiles in a worldly system. Emphasis is placed on embracing community diversity, practicing humility, seeking peace, and focusing on justice, mercy, and faithfulness. Ronnie also shares insights on how Christians should engage with political systems, highlighting...


A View From the Inside: A Conversation with John and William
#7
10/28/2024

In this episode Ronnie turns the tables and interviews John and William. Together they engage in a series of candid conversations about the complexities of faith, relationships, and leadership in ministry. They highlight the importance of sharing real, imperfect stories to showcase God's work through flawed individuals, the transformative power of friendships, and the nuances of mentorship. Topics covered include balancing personal convictions with public perception, addressing difficult conversations within the church, the value of intergenerational leadership, and the autonomy within a network of churches. They also discuss mental health, the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, and the necessity...


The Case For Church Planting
#6
10/21/2024

In this episode, John Von Runnen and William Royal sit down with lifelong pastor Ronnie Worsham to discuss the profound journey of church planting and how God shaped his call to lead a church planting movement. Ronnie and John share stories and takeaways from planting the Mission Church, Wylie Northeast, Denton North, Arlington Central, and East Plano.


This episode is particularly timely as the DFW Metro Family of Churches is preparing for upcoming church plants in Richardson and Fort Worth. Ronnie, John, and William discuss the spiritual and strategic foundations for planting churches, the...


The Last 25 Years Part 2: Becoming a Family of Churches
#5
10/14/2024

In this episode we continue pastor Ronnie Worsham's story, catching up to present day. Ronnie reflects on the foundational and doctrinal issues central to church movements and offers a Christ-centric philosophy of discipleship. The conversation also explores spiritual discernment, critiques on church leadership and organization, and the balance between theological beliefs and practical church management. Other topics include the integration of campus ministries, the evolution of church dynamics, and the significance of community and family in spiritual growth. Ronnie shares both successes and challenges faced in merging congregations, establishing new church plants, and navigating leadership roles. He emphasizes the...


The Last 25 Years Part 1: Planting Northeast Church and FOCUS
#4
10/07/2024

In this episode of 'It's a Pod Deal,' Ronnie Worsham joins hosts William Royal and John Von Runnen to discuss his journey in founding and growing Northeast Church. The conversation explores his transformation from spiritual skepticism to a purposeful ministry, highlighting his focus on creating an inclusive church community that values unity over uniformity. The episode delves into leadership dynamics, the importance of embracing diversity, and nurturing unconventional leaders. It also addresses challenges such as moral failures in churches and maintaining a vision for dynamic growth. Through personal stories, including Ronnie's own childhood injury, the discussion underscores his...


The Next 25 Years: The Winding Path of Ministry
#3
09/30/2024

In this episode of 'It's a Pod Deal,' hosts William Royal and John Von Runnen continue their conversation with pastor Ronnie Worsham. They explore Ronnie's ministry journey from his college days in Oklahoma to his dynamic efforts ministering in Oklahoma, Colorado, and Arizona. The discussion delves into his early ministry challenges, including integrating diverse groups into an all-white church, and the evolution of his spiritual beliefs. Ronnie shares insights on the significance of personal discipleship, the impact of denominational challenges, and the essential role of love, vulnerability, and mentorship. Emphasizing a shift from traditional evangelical practices to a...