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On the show this week we've got a veteran of the indoor football gam — Mr. Clifton Duck!

We dive into his football journey, starting at App State, his time with the Chicago Bears, getting his foot in the door of arena football, the various stops along the way, the infamous Philadelphia Soul incident in 2024, San Antonio and how his opportunity to play pro ball in Europe came to be!

Really great chat with Clifton, so go give him a follow and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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SOLO SHOWWWWW! That's right folks, we're rolling solo today just talking shop about the latest news and nuggets from around the arena and indoor football world.

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On the show this week we've got arena football veteran & newly announced head coach of the Dallas Bulls of the NAL, Rodney Blackshear!

We dive into his pro football journey that led him to arena football, his years playing with the Texas Terror & Houston ThunderBears, winning ArenaBowl XV with the Grand Rapids Rampage, transitioning into coaching, his approach to roster management and what's next for the Dallas Bulls!

Fun chat with Coach Blackshear, go give him and Bulls a follow!

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On the show this week we've got the 2025 IFL All-Rookie QB James Cahoon!

James was a spark plug at QB for the Iowa Barnstormers offense last year and we talk shop about his football journey, training camp with the Vegas Knight Hawks, landing in Des Moines, building chemistry with the team after joining midseason, Coach Mogs offense, Des Moines and what's next! 

Really fun chat with James in this one, go give him a follow on socials!

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On the show this week we've got the General Manager of the Quad City Steamwheelers — Destiny Brown!

Destiny has been with the Steamwheelers for 7+ years now and has seen a ton of growth with the team and the IFL, which we dive into further along with her experiences working in sports, Quad City vs Quad Cities, favorite Steamwheelers jersey combos, working with Cory Ross, working in her home town and what's next for Quad City! 

Really fun chat with Destiny and I am stoked to see how her career grows from here!

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On the show this week we've got San Diego Strike Force QB/WR/ATH Rudy Johnson! 

He's a veteran of the indoor football game and has a fantastic real estate business off the field. We were able to dive into his football journey, getting started in Dodge City, his stint in the CFL, how he pursues multiple passions, the growth of the San Diego Strike Force during his time, and how he manages to handle business — both on and off the field! 

Really fun chat with Rudy, so please give him a follow below and let...

On the show this week we've got DB Marcus Gray! By far he lives one of the most interesting lives imaginable in the arena football landscape — where he played defensive back for the Omaha Beef & Fishers Freight in 2025, while also being a part of the Indiana Pacers Power Pack slam dunk stunt team and starting his own independent slam dunk stunt team.

Oh and he was a professional SLAMBALL player! What a life.

We dive into all of that and more in this interview, which was really fun. Big thanks to Marcus for hopping on! Gi...

On the show this week we've got newly announced Iowa Barnstormers head coach Andre Coles! We dive into his football journey, playing indoor football for 9 years, getting involved in coaching, what he has learned along the way, the opportunity in Iowa, recruiting talent to the IFL, building a roster, and his cologne collection!

Big thanks to Andre & the Iowa Barnstormers for taking the time! Give him a shout on socials and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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Fresh off of the IFL National Championship game, we've got Brent Stover from CBS Sports on the show this week! If you have watched any college basketball, college football, or anything with CBS Sports in general, you probably recognize the name.

We dive into his broadcasting career, getting his start, cutting his teeth in arena football, guest appearances on the Artie Lange show, working AFL games in the 2010s with Sed Bonner, the BrawlAtTheMall, the IFL National Championship and what may be to come for the league..

Big thanks to Brent for taking the time...

We have a great episode for you this week, with none other than IFL Commissioner Todd Tryon! The 2025 IFL National Championship game is upon us and we able to chat with him during a VERY busy week in his world and discuss his journey through indoor football, becoming Commissioner of the IFL, the IFL Network's first year, expansion talk (for 2026 AND BEYOND) and some fan submitted questions that were truly off the wall.

Big thanks to Commissioner Tryon for hopping on and make sure you tune in to the 2025 IFL National Championship game on CBS Sports!

Another week, another veteran WR to chop it up with! We've got WR Antwane Grant on the show this week, with a special appearance by '90s AFL veteran QB James Guidry.

First time in Off The Wall history interviewing two folks at the same time — and it was a fun convo! We dove into Antwane's football journey that led him to arena ball, how the CFL prepared him for playing indoors, how he met James, his years in the NAL, taking time away from the game, this 2025 AF1 season and more!

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We've got an arena vet on this week, it's WR Moe Strong! He's had quite the journey through the arena & indoor world — and we talk through it all!

From playing in semi-pro, to getting the first professional opportunity with the Tri City Rush, to the Salina, to Minnesota, to Duluth, to Corpus Christi, to Eau Claire and most recently with the Iowa Barnstormers!

We talk through the different stops along the way, including what went wrong with the Minnesota Myth in 2024, his experience with the Corpus Christi Tritons in 2025 & how he adjusted his game The Ar...

We've got an all-timer in the chamber this week — we've got Heisman trophy winner, NFL Hall of Famer & TAL Commissioner Tim Brown!

We touch on his football journey, how he had to sneakily start playing football, Notre Dame, winning the Heisman, playing for the Los Angeles Raiders, his career longevity, getting involved in arena football, becoming TAL Commissioner, the 2025 TAL season and what the future holds for the league!

Go give Commissioner Brown & The Arena League a follow!

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We've got a good one this week with one of the most dynamic players in The Arena League — Ozarks Lunkers RB Brandon Mackey! 

We dive into his football journey, what led him to the Lunkers, living in Springfield, adjusting to TAL rules & this year's Ozarks team!

Go give Brandon a follow on socials and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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We're rolling guest free this week and diving into one of the most exciting weekends of indoor football you'll ever see! IFL action was electric & the TAL had some really fun games as we only have a couple weeks left before both leagues start their playoffs.

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IFL Week 17 Recap

TAL Week 7 Recap

On the show this week we have a rising star in the arena football community, his name is Richie Murphy! Richie plays Defensive Back for the Duluth Harbor Monsters of The Arena League and has developed quite the social media following through his football career.

We dive into his journey to arena football, playing D3 at UW-Stout, fully embracing content creation, how he got started, what motivates him and what he is excited about moving forward!

This was a fun chat and I really like how Richie embraces the highs and lows of his journey, a...

On the show this week we have one of the all time greats of the 90s AFL, his name is Calvin Schexnayder!

We talk through how he got involved with the Arena Football League, finding his way in Arizona, those Danny White led Rattlers teams, his involvement with the AFL CBAs, and if we will potentially see him involved with the arena game again!

Big thanks to "Shakes" for hopping on the show and sharing his journey!

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On the show this week we have Beaumont Renegades DL & NAL Champion JD Griggs!

The "Sack King" of indoor football has been one of the best in the business for going on 10 years now and we were able to dive into his football journey.

We talked about playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars & the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, how he made his way to arena football, finding a home in Massachusetts, this year's Beaumont Renegades team, and his footwear and apparel line FITA!

Big thanks to JD for taking the time to join the show...

Solo show this week as dive into the Beaumont Renegades being crowned the 2025 NAL champions, the AF1 season wrapping up and heading into the playoffs, and the back stretch of the IFL season is starting to heat up!

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NAL Championship - 2:35

AF1 Regular Season Finale

IFL Week 13 Recap

On the show this week we have Albany Firebirds QB Sam Castronova! He's been one of the absolute best in the sport over the past 5 years and is QB1 for the undefeated Firebirds in the inaugural season of the AF1.

We dive into his football journey, what led him to arena football, finding a home in Albany, his different stops along the way, adjusting to the indoor game vs the arena game, that historic 2024 San Antonio offense, this year's Firebirds team and what the future holds for his playing career.

Big thanks to Sam for...

On the show this week we have Southwest Kansas Storm QB Jalen Morton! We talk through his football journey that's taken him around the country, his travels around the world, this year's Storm team and adjusting to the arena style game.

Jalen is having a phenomenal year on the field and I am really looking forward to seeing his journey continue — both on and off the field!

Give Jalen a follow and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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On the show this week we have the Head Coach of the Duluth Harbor Monsters of The Arena League, Coach Tony O'Neil!

We dive into his journey that led to him being a head coach in TAL, what makes TAL unique compared to other arena leagues, the inaugural 2024 season, graduating players into bigger leagues, and how things are shaping up for 2025 and beyond!

Give Duluth & The Arena League a follow and let them know you heard about them on Off The Wall!

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On the show this week we have legendary DB Dwayne Hollis!

He's been in the arena game for over a decade and truly has one of the most unique journeys in the sport. We talk through his career, including getting his pro football career started in Finland, coming back to the states to play arena ball, his run with the Philadelphia Soul, playing in the Chinese Arena Football League, playing and coaching in Albany, and 2025 in Corpus Christi & Billings.

We barely scratched the surface with Dwayne, and we'll have to get him back on again...

On the show this week we have Nashville Kats WR Rob Jones Jr!

The Kats have been ROLLING over the past month — and Jones is a major reason why! We dive into his football journey, growing up in Florida, getting involved in arena ball after college, his athletic training business where he works with NFL players in the offseason, getting featured in East Bay, this year's Kats team and what makes this crew so special.

Please give Rob a follow and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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On the show this week we have Salina Liberty WR Malik Honeycutt!

The Liberty are fresh off of a big win against Billings and are really starting to piece things together on offense. We dove into Malik's football journey, how he got connected with the indoor game, the handful of places that he has been to over the past couple of seasons that have and haven't worked out, this year's Salina team and the Liberty culture with Coach O.

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On the show this week we are rolling guest-free! Just talking ball about the action we saw across the arena football landscape this past week.

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AF1 Week 6 Recap - 1:55

IFL Week 5 Recap - 23:05

NAL Week 7 Recap - 42:11

On the show this week we have Beaumont Renegades LB Malcolm McCoy!

Renegades are fresh off of a big win against the Omaha Beef, so we talked shop about the game, this year's Renegades team, their 'bye month', becoming a podcast co-host on The FAN Show while rehabbing an injury & his football journey that led him to arena ball. 

Please give Malcolm a follow and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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On the show this week we have former Orlando Predators player & head coach EJ Burt, who recently started a new podcast called Arena Goat Talk!

Arena Goat Talk sits down with legends of the arena football game and dives into their story, lessons learned playing the game and advice they would give the players of today! It's a great listen and they have already had some GREAT guests on — Barry Wagner, Jay Gruden, Hunkie Cooper, John Moyer, Mike Hohensee and more to come!

We also dive into Coach Burt's football journey, the Orlando Predator's culture fr...

On the show this week we have Oregon Lightning DB Nick Brassell! He is a veteran of the arena football game and notably caught the walk-off Hail Mary at the end of this past week's Oregon-Southwest Kansas thriller!

We talked through his football journey, his time at Ole Miss, learning from past mistakes, venturing into arena football, many of the stops he has had along the way and the Oregon Lightning culture they are building in the Pacific Northwest!

Big shoutout to Nick for hopping on the show, go give him a follow on socials!<...

On the show this week we have former Buffalo Bills WR Stevie Johnson! He spent 8 years in the NFL, he's an entrepreneur, he's a podcast host and he is the Executive Ambassador for Media & Community Relations for the San Diego Strike Force!

It was really great being able to chop it up with Stevie about his football career, his connection with the city of Buffalo, transitioning to entrepreneur life after football, how he got involved with the San Diego Strike Force, plans for the Striking with Stevie podcast, a potential future IFL franchise in Buffalo a...

On the show this week we have jumbo episode featuring a big IFL Preview with Alec Schuberth from Sports Coast to Coast!

He is the Lead IFL Contributor for SCtoC and the host of the new show Wager Wednesdays, where he talks through IFL betting lines and sees where there is value and previews the weekend ahead.

If you watched an IFL stream on YouTube at any point last season, you probably saw Alec in the chat talking shop about IFL, stats & betting lines. Alec has a great mind for analytics an...

On the show this week we are joined by the standout star of AF1 Week 0, SW Kansas Storm DB Michael Lawson!

We dove into his football journey through college and into the pros, getting his shot in the XFL, making his way to Germany to play professional football, coming back to America to play arena football, the SW Kansas football culture with Coach Thomas and we talk through Week 0.

Please go give Michael a follow on socials and let him know you heard him on Off The Wall!

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On the show this week we have the 2024 IFL MVP QB Ja'Rome Johnson of the Vegas Knight Hawks! Ja'Rome had an outstanding season in his first season with Vegas in 2024 and is looking to build on that success into 2025 with a championship on his mind.

We dove into his football journey, his college career at UVA-Wise & Bowie State, how he found his way to Indoor Football, learning the game in his rookie year in Green Bay, learning the ropes of the sport from the Green Bay coaching staff, heading to Vegas, finding success and overcoming adversity, & how...

On the show this week we have DB Bryce Hampton of the Toronto Argonauts of the CFL! Bryce was the 2024 IFL Defensive Rookie of the Year & All-IFL First Team DB with the Vegas Knight Hawks and will be making his way North for the 2025 season.

We dove into his football journey, how he ended up at Purdue, how a childhood friend got him involved with the Knight Hawks, adjusting to the indoor game, memorable moments in Vegas, playing for Coach Mike Davis & so much more

Please go give Bryce a follow on socials!

On the show this week we have WR Aakiel Greer of the Arizona Bandits! Aakiel had a breakout year in 2024, where he finished strong with the Wichita Regulators and will be a part of a very talented Bandits squad hitting the field for the first time in 2025.

We chatted through the his football journey, trials and tribulations he's faced along the way in the arena & indoor world, almost giving up on the sport, making the most of his chance in Wichita, learning from Coach Clinton Solomon & what he is most excited about in 2025!

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On the show this week we have QB Andre Sale of the Orlando Predators chatting it up! Andre has been in the Indoor football world for a couple years now and is going to make a big splash next season in AF1 down in central Florida.

We chatted through the his football journey that led him to LSU, life after college football, getting back into playing, learning from Nate Davis, playing in Tulsa, his time with the Louisiana Voodoo, what led him to signing with the Predators & what he is excited about in 2025!

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On the show this week we have the color commentator for the Quad City Steamwheelers of the IFL — his name is Ron Luce!

We talked about how he fell in love with arena & indoor football growing up in Chicago, how he got his start doing color commentary, getting his opportunity with the Quad City Steamwheelers, what he has learned along the way and his own blogging and podcasting journey with On Tap Sports Net!

Please go give Ron, On Tap Sports Net & the Quad City Steamwheelers a follow on socials!

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On the show this week we have a rising star in the indoor football world — San Antonio Gunslingers LB Dylan Pettway!

We chatted through the his football journey so far, including playing abroad in Romania(!), playing with the Omaha Beef in the 2024 NAL season, the CRAZY NAL championship game, landing with the Sioux Falls Storm and how he ended up choosing to sign in San Antonio.

He's signed with the Gunslingers for the 2025 season and looking to help turn that defense around.

Please go give Dylan a follow on his socials!

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On the show this week we have one of the premier QBs of Arena Football in the 2000s, it is Ray Philyaw!

We chatted through his arena football career, including starting off with such a talent roster and staff in Albany & Indiana, playing with Eddie Brown, things he learned from specific coaches, his most memorable games, his ridiculously good TD:INT ratio and the Raymond Philyaw Academy that he runs today!

I remember playing as him on the Arena Football video games as a kid, so it was really awesome to be able to chat...

On the show this week we have newly signed WR for the Tulsa Oilers of the IFL, it's Max Novak! We chatted through the beginning of his indoor football career, adjusting to the game as a WR, his roller coaster of a 2024 season with the AFL, his ACL & meniscus injuries and rehab, and what he is excited for in 2025.

His career so far is such a great story of perseverance and he is set to have a breakout year with the Oilers. 

"Stay patient, be consistent" 

Please go give Max & the RouteRunnr a fo...