PowerGab
An Independence Institute production focusing on the unique energy challenges facing Colorado.
Renewables Blackout

Can renewable energy resources experience full grid blackouts? Spain relies heavily on renewable energy and just experienced a countrywide black out. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke interview Kenny Stein of the Institute of Energy Research and Mitch Rolling of Always On Energy Research to find out what happened and if there is a way to prevent it.
Show Notes:
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Kenny-Stein-Bio-24.pdf
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/the-grid/what-caused-spain-and-portugals-massive-power-outage/
https://jkempenergy.com/2025/04/28/iberian-peninsula-hit-by-mass-blackout-and-attempts-black-start/
Will Coal Survive?

New executive orders challenge Colorado's renewable goals. How will these orders affect the state, does Colorado need to comply, and are the renewable goals that Colorado has even capable of handling the power needs? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://coloradosun.com/2025/04/14/colorado-oil-and-gas-lawsuit-trump-order/
https://coloradosun.com/2025/04/15/coal-fired-power-craig-tri-state-xcel-trump-orders/
https://www.epa.gov/system/files/documents/2025-04/regulatory-relief-for-certain-stationary-annex-1.pdf
Data Centers Bought by TABOR

A new legislative bill in Colorado aims to incentivize data centers with money from the taxpayers. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this bill, its progress, and what it would mean for Coloradans.
Show Notes:
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2025A/bills/2025a_280_01.pdf
Power Pet Peeves

Colorado Media slanders providers that don't align with their viewpoints, and PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke call them out. They talk about their "pet peeves" in the power industry along with legislative measures that are suffocating Colorado's economy.
Show Notes:
A pet peeve:Â
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/therightaoc_home-liberty-energy-activity-7314317686220431363-gnSC?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAGSjcgBPL5m2zttfZr18-SF8P9Di3bhWi8
I can’t do business in Denver
https://denvergazette.com/news/denver-developers-commercial-real-estate-regulations/article_ea6d4d62-5400-455b-84cd-014241056fb8.htm...
Moving the Goal Posts

A new energy legislation bill in Colorado threatens to move up the current mandates for renewables in the state. What's in the bill, will it actually pass, and is it even realistic? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://liberalandlovingit.substack.com/p/the-puc-feels-very-pro-forma-to-me
https://www.aoenergy.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/64/2025/03/CEP-Draft-3-25-25-STAKEHOLDERS84.pdf
https://www.aoenergy.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/64/2025/03/Letter-re-2040-Late-Bill-Status-3.28.25-Final.pdf
Utility Company Warnings

Two of the largest utility companies in Colorado are publicly sounding the alarm of cost and reliability risks with renewables. PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke interview Travas Deal, the CEO of Colorado Springs Utilities to find out more.
Show Notes:
https://i2i.org/colorado-utilities-signal-pain-ahead-for-energy-transition/
https://www.csu.org/blog/ourenergytransition
https://gazette.com/news/colorado-springs-utilities-slowing-green-energy-project-goals/article_317f44ec-eee8-11ef-b113-238f450e3acf.html
https://coloradosun.com/2024/01/04/platte-river-power-authority-greenhouse-gas-reductions/
Energy Realism

There are no shortages of goals for the future of energy. But what is realistic? Are the projections of renewable energy even attainable? PowerGab Host Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this topic and updates from the Colorado Legislature.
Show Notes:
-https://www.cpr.org/2025/03/17/lawmakers-approve-bill-to-classify-nuclear-power-clean-energy/
-https://coloradosun.com/2025/03/13/platte-river-power-authority-natural-gas-climate-change/
-https://www.aei.org/articles/welcome-to-the-era-of-energy-realism/
Legislation Roundup

It's halfway through the 2025 legislative session in Colorado. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke have been keeping tabs on the good, the bad, and the ugly energy legislation and they discuss the bills and their likeliness of becoming laws.
Show Notes:
-HB25-1040:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1040
-HB25-1126:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1126
-HB25-1177:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1177
-HB25-1277:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1277
-HB25-1234:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1234
...
Colorado Energy Snapshot

A new Independence Institute analysis shows that coal is no longer the king of Colorado's energy. What is the current breakdown of Colorado's energy sources and what is that costing? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://i2i.org/fast-facts-about-colorados-electricity-sector-in-2024/
https://i2i.org/fast-facts-about-electricity-in-colorado-in-2023/
Downsize & Unregulate

The new Trump administration takes aim at downsizing government agencies like the EPA. How will this have an affect on Colorado's energy policy? PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke have a conversation with President Trump's former EPA transition team leader Myron Ebell.
Show Notes:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/climate/trump-epa-layoffs.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/02/26/epa-endangerment-finding-trump-climate/
https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/is-the-epa-endangerment-finding-endangered
Nuclear Education

Colorado gets one step closer to nuclear energy with a bill passing the committee house. However, some of the objections to the bill make it clear that there is a clear need for education about nuclear energy. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://i2i.org/is-2025-the-year-that-colorado-goes-nuclear-hopefully/
https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1040
Partisan Utilities Commission

Colorado's Public Utilities Commission is meant to be a bipartisan entity representing all Coloradans. But is it? A new legislative bill is proposed to help give more equal representation. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1126
https://www.dsireinsight.com/blog/2024/11/21/utility-commissioners-how-theyre-selected-what-they-do-and-how-they-impact-daily-life
https://i2i.org/wp-content/uploads/CoRP_Case_Study_v2_a.pdf
Nuclear Waste in Northwest Colorado

As Colorado considers nuclear energy as an option, what happens with the nuclear waste? Where would it go and how much would there be? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
Nuclear storage plans in Northwestern Colorado
https://coloradosun.com/2025/01/18/nuclear-waste-storage-colorado-rio-blanco-county-rangely/
https://coloradosun.com/2025/01/29/nuclear-waste-storage-hayden-routt-county/
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Chris Wright Lays Out DOE Priorities
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-energy-baseload-generation-nuclear-transmission-wright/739412/
Energy Through a Liberal Lens

Are the energy problems facing Colorado a partisan issue? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke have a conversation with Dave Thielen from Liberal and Loving It to see if there is a political consensus on the problems facing Colorado's energy grid and what some possible solutions are.
Show Notes:
https://liberalandlovingit.substack.com
https://liberalandlovingit.substack.com/p/will-toor-executive-director-colorado
https://liberalandlovingit.substack.com/p/is-wind-energy-cheaper-than-gas
Mind-Boggling Utility Bills

The Colorado Public Utilities Commission Chair has just given a very grim forecast for where costs are going for utility bills. And, how do the new Trump Administration's executive orders affect what's ahead for Colorado? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss these topics.
Clean Colorado Nuclear

For the 3rd year in a row, Colorado lawmakers have introduced new pro-nuclear legislation with bipartisan support. Will the 3rd time be the charm? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the bill and how that would affect Colorado.
Show Notes:
Link to the bill:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1040
I2I’s testimony and coverage the last few times it was introduced
-https://i2i.org/energy-environmental-policy-centers-testimony-on-bill-to-classify-nuclear-as-clean-energy/
-https://i2i.org/colorado-lawmakers-to-consider-pro-nuclear-bill/
-https://gazette.com/opinion/guest-column-pure-partisanship-kills-nuclear-energy-bill/article_b53422c6-b132-11ed-b0ea...
2025 Power Resolutions

A new year is under way and a new legislature is in session. What lessons will Colorado learn from its policies in 2024 and is it possible to save in 2025? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Heat Pump Surprise

Xcel Energy customers are going to be paying more for heat pumps, whether or not they actually buy them. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the legislature's "Fenberg Rider" and why utility prices are going up.
Show Notes:
https://coloradosun.com/2024/12/18/electric-grid-xcel-energy-ev-heat-pump-solar-wind-natural-gas/
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2024/05/06/cooke-xcel-energy-cash-cow-steve-fenberg-rider/
https://www.nerc.com/pa/RAPA/ra/Reliability%20Assessments%20DL/NERC_LTRA_Infographic_2024.pdf
Co$t to Decarbonize

Colorado's decarbonization goals, along with regulations on gas and oil producers have cost the state some money. You may be surprised to find out how much. PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke have a discussion with Liberty Energy's Ryan Zorn to analyze the costs.
Show Notes:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanzorn/
https://libertyenergy.com
https://rockymountainvoice.com/2024/06/zorn-colorados-passenger-rail-romance-vs-reality/
Powered By Tax Credits

Colorado celebrates electric vehicle sales as first in the nation, but what does that mean, and are EVs having an effect on the climate? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke dive into the report and find out what is actually going on.
Show Notes:
https://www.colorado.gov/governor/news/leading-nation-electric-vehicles-governor-polis-announces-colorado-has-become-1-nation-market
https://i2i.org/unpacking-colorados-electric-vehicle-triumphalism/
Nuclear in Colorado?

Is nuclear power an option in Colorado? What are the benefits and what are the risks? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke talk with Mark Hinaman of Fire to Fission and the Colorado Nuclear Alliance to get all the details.
Show Notes
https://fire2fission.comhttps://www.coloradonuclearalliance.orgColorado's 10 Year Transportation Goals

Colorado's Governor announces a 10 year goal for the transportation in the state. What does it look like? Who will it benefit? And, how much will it actually cost? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://gazette.com/colorado_politics/colorado-transportation-vision/article_e7405daf-cedf-5607-849d-f57c86a3db31.html
https://www.9news.com/article/money/consumer/xcel-ev-rebate-program/73-b72bf9c0-6d7d-492d-ad02-a7d3aecae507
Did Colorado Get One Wright?

President-Elect Trump taps a Coloradan to lead the Department of Energy. Who is Chris Wright and what does his nomination mean for Colorado energy policy? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this and more.
Show Notes:
https://libertyenergy.com/esg/bettering-human-lives/?mc_cid=ea430099a5&mc_eid=0dae6775a6
https://libertyenergy.com
Manipulated Power System

Colorado's leading climate lawmaker resigns his senate seat in a less than forthright way, spurring doubt on the future of energy policy in the state. Plus, PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss President Elect Trump's EPA pick and recent Black Hills Energy news.
Show Notes:
https://coloradosun.com/2024/11/13/chris-hansen-colorado-legislature-resignation/
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/gas-generation-grid-reliability-spp-black-hills-naruc-pjm/732760/
https://www.spp.org/news-list/spp-board-approves-new-planning-reserve-margins-to-protect-against-high-winter-summer-use/
Warning Signs

A letter reveals the Colorado Governor's Office is beginning to worry about the price tag that comes along with wind, solar, and battery power for the state. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this along with an update on local election results.
It Was The Economy, Stupid!

With the 2024 Presidential Election decided, PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the results and what the future holds for energy policy under the Trump Administration.
Is Net Zero Impossible?

Many renewable energy technologies rely on limited minerals and resources to manufacture. And with increasing legislation along with increasing demand, are net zero goals even possible? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke interview Sarah Montalbano, a policy fellow at the Center of the American Experiment to find out.
Show Notes:
https://www.americanexperiment.org/mining-report-lack-of-minerals-put-net-zero-goals-out-of-reach/
https://i2i.org/mama-make-america-mine/
Ruined By Rulings

Blue Cities and States across the country begin to sue oil and gas companies for climate change. Who is responsible and should the courts be the ones to decide? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss this with attorney and former Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton.
Show Notes:
-https://www.law360.com/environmental/articles/1883052/supreme-court-must-halt-for-profit-climate-tort-proliferation
-https://libertyenergy.com/esg/bettering-human-lives/
Un-Welcome to Colorado

Gas bills are spiking but it's just the beginning, and planned data centers are going to put an enormous energy strain on an otherwise overused power grid. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss these topics and more.
Who is Raising Your Utility Rates?

PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke review a utility price increase and figure out who is the reason behind it.
Oil & Gas Regulatory Warfare

What are cumulative impact rulings and why are they about to start a war over Colorado's oil and gas drilling? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke explain what these are and how they affect the state of Colorado.
Show Notes:
https://tsscolorado.com/state-regulators-on-verge-of-passing-new-cumulative-impact-requirements-on-oil-and-gas-projects/
https://coloradosun.com/2024/08/28/oil-and-gas-cumulative-impact-rules-coloraddo/
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2023/04/17/life-after-climate-change/
Socialized Electricity

What is a Demand Side Management Program and why does it mean that XCel's customers need to subsidize energy for pot growers in Colorado? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss how this system works and what the implications are.
Show Notes:
https://coloradosun.com/2024/09/11/xcel-energy-efficiency-budget-marijuana/
Blackouts: A Power or Policy Problem?

Energy blackouts in Colorado are happening more frequently, but why? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the deeper reasons why Colorado's energy reliability isn't just a question of power.
Show Notes:
DP story on Xcel’s power outage https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/11/xcel-energy-power-outages-colorado-puc-investigation/
https://poweroutage.us
California has problems too!
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/californias-lights-are-out-and-gavin-newsom-isnt-home-energy-power-f51913f5?st=njgcgku5oql73y6&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
A Power Debate

After candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump squared off in the recent presidential debate, PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the debate and what each administration would look like in terms of energy policies.
B.Y.O. Power With C.R.E.

Where will the new power come from with our increasing energy needs? Consumer Regulated Electricity has some great possibilities and PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss it further with the founder of Advocates for Consumer Regulated Electricity Glen Lyons.
Show notes:Â
https://www.advocates4cre.org
https://travisfisher.substack.com/p/what-would-consumer-regulated-electricity
https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/energy-power-supply/consumer-regulated-electricity-the-path-to-faster-reliable-power-solutions-
Will Power Be There When We Need It?

Time of Use Rates, Co-Ops, Home Generators... Energy reliability is becoming more of a problem. PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss what is causing these problems and possible solutions that people are turning to.
Show Notes:
https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/whats-good-for-generac-is-bad-for
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/08/26/co-ops-in-wyoming-and-beyond-look-to-united-power-as-template-to-leave-tri-state/
https://www.9news.com/article/money/consumer/xcel-expand-time-charge-electricity/73-c65f107c-b296-4296-be56-8205a9b74dfb
http://poweroutage.us
Why Power Outs Are Trending In

Why are power outages becoming more common? Is this a random occurrence or is there a larger reason behind all of it? PowerGab hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the most recent power outages in Colorado, why they are happening, and what the future holds.
Show Notes:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/colorado-neighborhoods-experiencing-frequent-outages-xcel-energy-officials-taking-action/
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2024/07/17/caldara-how-many-coloradans-will-green-energy-kill/
Presidential Energy Policies

What are the energy policies of the presidential candidates? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss the track record of Tim Walz as Governor of Minnesota with Co-Founder of the Energy Bad Boys Mitch Rolling.
Show Notes:
Fundraiser with Dem elites: https://coloradosun.com/2024/08/13/tim-walz-denver-fundraiser/
Energy Policy: https://energybadboys.substack.com/p/green-new-walz
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/08/nx-s1-5065725/harris-walz-climate
“I am all in for Walz,” said Gina McCarthy, former Biden White House national climate advisor. She now co-chairs a climate coalition called America Is A...
Regulatory Upheaval

The US Supreme Court's decision to repeal the Chevron Doctrine leaves many industries feeling the consequences. How does it affect Colorado's energy policies? PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss with Senior Fellow of Constitutional Jurisprudence Robert Natelson.
Show Notes:
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2024/07/04/natelson-supreme-court-just-helped-out-the-real-colorado/
https://www.cato.org/blog/why-chevron-victory-wont-end-administrative-abuse-coming-environmental-protection-agency
Decommissioning Renewables

Renewables don't last forever. The added costs to remove renewable resources like solar panels and wind turbines may shock you. PowerGab Hosts Jake Fogleman and Amy Cooke discuss how it happens and who has to pay for it.
Show Notes:
Lewis Roca Study -Â https://20416171.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/20416171/LR_Renewable%20Energy%20End-Stage%20Planning%20Report_FIN.pdf
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Colorado Sun article:Â https://coloradosun.com/2022/10/23/logan-county-wind-energy-regulation/
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SB24-212:Â https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb24-212
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Colorado’s Orphan Well System: https://ecmc.state.co.us/owe.html#