The Leave It Better Podcast
Explore how to Leave it Better: in life, through the sport of Volleyball. Nebraska Hall of Fame Coach Janice Kruger speaks with the world’s best Volleyball coaches and athletes about the lessons the sport of volleyball has taught them about how to “leave it better.” Are you looking for inspiration on your path of self-discovery? Do you want to build a life with meaning? This is the podcast for you. For more than 30 years Janice Kruger has taught and coached young women leading them to become the best versions of themselves in both sport and life. Each one of her gu...
What it Takes to Win More than Anyone Else, with Mary Wise

Meet the winningest female coach in Division I volleyball history: Mary Wise. She led the Florida Gators for 34 seasons. Find out what it takes to build a remarkable career, in the face of early challenges. Hear how a little luck went a long way. Also, Mary and Janice touch on the importance of mentorship, and the evolution of volleyball at the University of Florida.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the podcast? Email Janice: leaveitbetter@side-out.orgThe World Record Crowd, with Lindsay Peterson

On August 2nd, 2023, sports history was made at a volleyball game in Lincoln, Nebraska. More than 92,000 fans packed into a stadium to watch an NCAA match — making it the largest crowd to ever watch a women’s sport.
As the Director of Operations for the University of Nebraska’s Volleyball program, Lindsay Peterson helped put together the largest attended women’s game in history. How did it happen? How can it be repeated? And what’s next for the future of the sport in stadiums and on TV? Lindsay gives Janice her insider perspective.
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Players with Purpose: The Grand Rapids Rise's Camryn Turner and Paige Briggs-Romine are here to Inspire

Two of the Grand Rapids Rise's top players, Camryn Turner and Paige Briggs-Romine, chat with Janice about the new fame they've found since stepping up from college volleyball into the pro league. Paige and Camryn share their personal stories of beating the odds, and the differences they've had going from a male coach to a woman. Hear about their involvement in the 'Players with Purpose' campaign supporting breast cancer awareness, and how it ties into a much bigger mission.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https...From College to the Pros: Dedicating your life to the game, with star athletes Sydney Hilley and Kendall White

Thinking about a career in professional volleyball? Star players Kendall White and Sydney Hilley share what it’s really like. From the NCAA, to the Omaha Supernovas, Kendall and Sydney are charting a path for future players with the United States’ Pro Volleyball Federation.
They’ve played professional volleyball for various countries around the world, where overcoming the language barrier is as difficult as dealing with the thousands of miles separating them from their friends and families. They talk to Janice about the differences competing back in the U.S. for the first time.
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The 100/100 Approach: Coach Becky Schmidt on Volleyball Performance Preparation

Hope College Coach Becky Schmidt and her teams have been to the NCAA Division III Tournament 15 different times in 20 years. Find out what it takes to sustain that sort of intensity and talent! Becky also shares how she utilizes her assistant coaches for maximum effect. Volleyball has changed over the years. Hear why your coaching methods may not be keeping up with the times.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the podcast? Email Janice: leaveitbetter@side-out.orgYou Can Do It - Now Believe It! With Cathy George

If you treat your players like family, they will fight for you like family. That is one of Coach Cathy George’s principles. As the current Head Coach of the Grand Rapids Rise professional volleyball federation team, and the winningest coach in the history of Michigan State’s volleyball program, Cathy has dedicated her life to raising the best players in the sport. Often times that has involved inviting her players over to her home for the holidays, when they can’t be home with their families.
Through numerous NCAA tournament appearances, Cathy has learned the secret to pushi...
Humor and Healing: How Michigan Coach Kathy DeBoer Overcame Her Stroke

We all have setbacks, but the Michigan State University Hall of Famer Kathy DeBoer's setback nearly killed her. Kathy suffered a devastating stroke while she was Executive Director of the American Volleyball Coaches Association, forcing her to learn how to talk and use parts of her body all over again. She tells Janice about the health risks she ignored, and about how positivity, persistence, and humor are helping her recover.
Kathy still has a challenging time speaking, but her strong will and hilarious attitude will leave you laughing while feeling inspired.
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From hall-of-fame player, to the best personal trainer volleyball has to offer, Cathy Noth is here to tell you her methods for shaping young athletes into future stars. As a former Nebraska Husker and NCAA champ, Cathy became the first Nebraska female student-athlete to have her jersey retired. Listen for great step-by-step advice on how to help players improve their skills, and what parents can do today to help their kids.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the po...Winning isn't Easy, but Never Losing is Much Harder, with Candace Moats

What does it take not only rack up an impressive win streak, but to find the confidence to keep that streak going?
In 2023, Indiana Wesleyan University’s Candace Moats was honored with multiple ‘Coach of the Year’ awards, in part to her team finishing with a flawless 38 wins and zero losses season (the first time in 6 years for any NAIA volleyball team to accomplish).
Coach Moats has been coaching volleyball competitively for 40 years. She shares her advice for not caving to the high-stakes pressure. We also hear about the benefit of surrounding yourself with people that yo...
The Heart of Coaching: Mentorship and Growth, with Ann Schilling

"If you stop learning, you need to stop coaching." That's the motto of Bayside Academy Head Coach Ann Schilling; a legendary volleyball coach with over 37 years of experience. Janice and Ann discuss her journey in coaching, her philosophy on leadership and team culture, and her personal battle with breast cancer. Ann shares how her cancer diagnosis changed her entire outlook on life and her relationship with God. Hear about the significant experiences that have shaped her methods of passing on life lessons to her young athletes. This powerful conversation highlights the significance of resilience, faith, and the impact of spor...
How to find (and recruit) the Best Players in the Sport, with Erin Virtue

Building a championship team takes great players that can be pushed to get better, AND great team staff that can push the coach to get better as well. Coach Erin Virtue leads the women’s volleyball team at the University of Michigan and serves as an Assistant Coach for the U.S Women’s National team.
Coach Virtue tells Janice how she and the national volleyball team had to re-shape the scouting system they were using so they could spot and recruit the best players the country has to offer. This episode is a unique look at how...
A Trainer for the Next Generation of Volleyball Stars, Cathy Noth

From hall-of-fame player, to the best personal trainer volleyball has to offer, Cathy Noth is here to tell you her methods to shaping young athletes into future stars. As a former Nebraska Husker and NCAA champ, Cathy became the first Nebraska female student-athlete to have her jersey retired.Listen for great step-by-step advice on how to help players improve their skills, and what parents can do today to help their kids.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the po...Finding Bigger Audiences with Pro Volleyball Federation CEO Jen Spicher

For decades, the best volleyball players in the country had few places to turn to if they wanted to stay with the sport they loved after college. Jen Spicher helped change that. As the CEO of the newly created "Pro Volleyball Federation," Jen is giving women a chance to continue their dreams.
In her talk with Janice, Jen breaks down just what it takes to launch a new professional sports league. Jen also offers her unique perspective on the difference between being a college NCAA coach, and a coach on the professional level.
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F...Empowering Voices: The Impact of Dig Pink

The Volleyball Cancer research Charity tournament, Dig Pink, is making lasting impacts, much of it thanks to several young leaders in high school across the country. The conversation revolves around the experiences of the teenage ambassadors of the Side-Out Foundation's Dig Pink program. Learn about their personal motivations, and the big lessons they've discovered as leaders in their schools, teams, and communities.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the podcast? Email Janice: leaveitbetter@side-out.orgA Guide to Growing a Sport: Boosting Volleyball’s Popularity, with Terry Liskevych

In the early days of collegiate and competitive volleyball, organizer had one major question in mind: How to raise the popularity and visibility of the game. That’s where Terry Liskevych came in. As a former collegiate and US Olympic team national volleyball coach, Terry Helped create the framework to support promising coaches and leaders in the world of volleyball.
Terry explains to Janice why he has a hard time putting faith in the USA volleyball organization. And in the ongoing debate over who’s needed more: great players or great coaches, Terry makes the case for choo...
Coaching Players AND Their Parents, with Roger Anderson

You can coach your players, but how do you coach their parents? Roger Anderson, Head Coach and Director of Health and Wellness at Westborough High School in Massachusetts shares his insights on coaching philosophy, the importance of community support. Hear why student-athlete well-being and mental toughness is significant on the court. Coach Anderson also shares the core values he instills in his athletes, and the lessons he imparts to both players and parents.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions fo...The Reason Winning isn't Everything, with Tyler Carey

Winning isn’t everything if you’re not winning cleanly. Coach Tyler Carey believes in pushing his players to be accountable for every point… even the ones the refs don’t get right.
Tyler helped start the “Power of Pink” volleyball tournament, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for breast cancer research. He talks with Janice about how a brush with death helped him find a renewed passion for life, and helping others.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggest...A Coaching Career Built on Incredible Connections, with Ruth Nelson

If you want to be the best, you need experience. That’s where Ruth Nelson shines. As a volleyball coach at all levels of the sport over many decades, Ruth walks us through her lessons with some of the most influential volleyball figures in the history of the sport. A must listen to episode for young and aspiring coaches! Veteran coaches will appreciate Ruth’s stories and connections.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the podcast? Email Janice: leav...Demanding More from Players, with Penn State Coach Russ Rose

In the world of women’s volleyball, one coach has racked up more wins than any other. His name is Russ Rose. He spent 40 years at Penn State and picked up seven NCAA Division 1 championships, among numerous other huge successes. So what does it take to not just get to the very top level, but stay there?
Russ’s coaching style holds players accountable. Hear what he sees as problems on the court today.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/side...Winning Wisdom & Fun Stories with 2x Olympic Medalist and NCAA Champ Haleigh Washington

Hot off the court from the 2025 Paris Olympics with her Silver medal, Team USA’s Haleigh Washington shares the heart-pounding moments, the skills that carried the team, and how American volleyball can change its messaging.
Also, get Haleigh’s take on who the best players in the world are right now.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the podcast? Email Janice: leaveitbetter@side-out.orgFrom the Volleyball Court to the Lab – Our Fight Against Cancer, with Dr. Emanuel Petricoin

A special episode with a unique message of hope. The sport of volleyball is the carrier for the Side-Out Foundation’s mission to end breast cancer. On the frontlines of that mission is Dr. Emanuel Petricoin. He’s a pioneering researcher in personalized medicine, and Co-Director of the Center of Applied Proteomics and Molecular Medicine at George Mason University. Hear how his work with the Side-Out Foundation is helping transform how we treat breast cancer.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/digpinkHave sugges...Handling the Pressure of Winning and Keeping the Streak Going, with Candace Moats

What does it take not only rack up an impressive win streak, but to find the confidence to keep that streak going?
In 2023, Indiana Wesleyan University’s Candace Moats was honored with multiple ‘Coach of the Year’ awards, in part to her team finishing with a flawless 38 wins and zero losses season (the first time in 6 years for any NAIA volleyball team to accomplish).
Coach Moats has been coaching volleyball competitively for 40 years. She shares her advice for not caving to the high-stakes pressure. We also hear about the benefit of surrounding yourself with people that yo...
Empowering Lives Through Sport - Lori Okimura's Passion

Everyone should have a chance to play the sports they love. As the President of ParaVolley, Lori Okimura helps players with various physical disabilities come together to compete on the volleyball court. Whether it’s using coconut trees for net posts, communicating through cultural barriers, or playing at the age of 92, as Lori tells Janice, if there’s a will, there’s a hundred ways.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sideoutfndn/Have suggestions for the podcast? Email Janice: leaveitbetter@side-out.orgGrowth Requires Discomfort, with Juniata Head Coach Heather Pavlik

Whether you’re training professional athletes to reach their peak, or raising kids to deal with everyday pressures, Juniata Head Coach Heather Pavlik has the experience everyone can benefit from. With a family in sports, Heather knows how to move past failures in a positive way to reach success.
She tells Janice how straightforward honesty helped her gain the respect of her players and fellow coaches
After coming off her second National Volleyball Championship victory, losing only a single match in two full seasons, Heather shares her recipe for winning on the court and off.
...The Perfect Team Demands this Essential Environment, with Coach Dan Fisher

As a coach, would you choose a player with a small role on a winning team, or take a player with a big role on a losing team? University of Pittsburgh Head Volleyball Coach Dan Fisher has built a VERY successful career out of recruiting players from all types of backgrounds. He tells Janice about his methods and philosophies when it comes to standing out in an extremely competitive field.
Also, discover the superstitious habit Coach Fisher got hooked on after leading his team on an incredible win streak.
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Steve Grotowski and his wife Capri were taking beach volleyball to the next level. Steve was competing in the Olympics in Beach Volleyball, and Capri was the Head Coach of Florida Atlantic University, with Steve as her Assistant Coach. Then Capri was diagnosed with breast Cancer. She fought on for almost a decade, while still coaching with Steve nearly the entire time. Capri died in 2022. Hear how Steve keeps her memory alive as he works to defeat the terrible disease that killed her.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out o...Coaching is so much more than X's & O's, with AVCA CEO Jaime Gordon

On the path to become an influential architect, a detour into the world of coaching volleyball wasn’t what the CEO of the American Volleyball Coaches Association Dr. Jaime Gordon would have ever imagined. Now he can’t imagine doing anything else. Hear how coaching his players off the court through some of their most difficult life moments shaped the way Dr. Gordon sees the role of coaches in every sport. Sometimes there were calls to the police. Sometimes there were shoulders to cry on. Every time there were young players and people to lead.
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Sometimes terrible things can lead to wonderful good. Athletic Director Matt Althage introduced his school to the Dig Pink charity volleyball tournament in 2008 when his mother was diagnosed with breast cancer. Today, Matt and Head Volleyball Coach Claudia Garcia continue to inspire their players and grow their own tournaments at the Carrollton School of the Sacred Heart in Miami, Florida. Hear how Matt and Claudia's ambition and creativity lead to numerous partnerships with other schools who followed their mission.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www...Physical Toughness is Nothing without Mental Toughness, with Dr. Brooke Rundle

You’ve toned your muscles, you’ve mastered your technique, but how are you going to perform when your confidence fails? How will you handle injuries? As a former professional player, and author of the sports psychology book, Headstrong, and founder of Headstrong Mindset Counseling, Dr. Brooke Rundle works with athletes to control their fears and master their doubts.
Dr. Rundle explains the foundational mental skills that top athletes need to win on the court, and even more so in their lives after they’re done.
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Don’t be the Last Coach Your Players have, with Kelly Sheffield

Wisconsin Head Volleyball Coach Kelly Sheffield has developed some of the best players in the sport. His methods might be a bit different than a typical coach, but then again, you don't want typical players if you want to win championships. Coach Sheffield talks with Janice about the importance of losing games (yes, losing), and find out how his music selection during training and practice sessions plays a role in shaping some of the most skilled players in the league.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram...Passion to Profession, with Paco Labrador

Starting out as a sports psychologist, Paco Labrador was always looking for ways to help athletes and programs bring out the very best in themselves. However, once he saw our life as a head coach could be, he was set on changing paths. Now, as the Head Coach of Volleyball at the Naval Academy, Paco is living his dream. He took the Naval Academy to their first NCAA Volleyball Tournament, and was voted the National Coach of the Year for Division 3. Paco has done great things, perhaps in part because he had a great start… as one of Janice’s ass...
The Road to 1,000 wins, with Coach Julie Jenkins

What is the ideal personality for a coach to have? Who should be the most competitive person on the team? How do you manage a new team every year? Coach Julie Jenkins has spent the last 40 years figuring out the answers to these big questions. As the head coach at Trinity University in Texas, Coach Jenkins is victory leader in Division 3, with 1,080 wins. She’s even been recognized as the national coach of the year twice by the American Volleyball Coaches Association (AVCA).
Janice and Coach Jenkins discuss the strategies they’ve picked up over their generation-long care...
Conquer Your Mind, and Your Body will Follow, with Gold Medal Olympian Jordan Larson

Meet the woman whose power and bravery on the court led Team USA to their first-ever Olympic gold medal in women’s volleyball. Jordan Larson is a four-time Olympian with two silver medals and a bronze to go with her gold. As the new Assistant Coach for the University of Nebraska, Jordan is bringing us some of her best Lessons she discovered while playing on the US Olympic team. Hear how she implements those lessons now as a coach herself, and how you can, too! Find out what separates the Gold medal players from the rest.
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A Champ on the Court and a Star in the Sand, with Molly Phillips

The vast majority of volleyball players go their whole career without winning a national championship. Meet Molly Phillips. She won three national championships! Two of those wins came back-to-back with the University of Texas. She then moved to the beach volleyball team at the University of Southern California and won her third national championship.
Molly tells Janice about her pre-game superstitions, training for the pros, and the importance of the smallest roles on the team.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.instagram.c...The Blessing and Curse of being a Dominant Team, with Tim Guernsey

Think about what it takes to win a state championship. Now imagine doing that 10 times! As the Head Volleyball coach at RHAM High School in Hebron, Connecticut, Tim Guernsey has made that astonishing Achievement. Before Tim began running the volleyball program at RHAM High school, it didn’t even exist. He built it from the ground up into a program now known for dominating the court. Hear why one of his biggest challenges today is teaching his new players that winning doesn’t come as easy as he and his team make it seem.
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For...The Bright Side of Life and Sport, with Stephanie Noriega

Taking immature high school players and evolving them into formidable athletes takes more than just carefully planned training routines. Coach Stephanie Noriega has found a way to grow her players her players into confident and caring young women, unafraid of new challenges. She’s the Head Coach of Volleyball at West Springfield High School in Virginia. Just as important, Stephanie helped build and grow the Dig Pink charity tournaments with the Side-Out Foundation at their very beginning.
Stephanie shares her way of inspiring her players to win on the court, and be proud of themselves off the cour...
Star Setter and Leader Going All in on Life, with Katie Oleksak

Talent comes at a young age — whether you’re playing or coaching. As someone in her mid-twenties, Katie Oleksak has quickly rose in the world of volleyball.
This NCAA Woman of the Year nominee broke the career assist record (5,083) at Colorado State University, and earned All-American honors each of her four seasons. After graduating, Katie wasted no time going pro and competing in Switzerland. She took a chance during the pandemic From there, Katie made the transition from the court to the clipboard, becoming the Director of Volleyball Operations at University of San Diego. Katie also serves as th...
An Olympic Winning Mindset, with Hugh McCutcheon

Team USA has only ever won four Olympic Gold medals in volleyball. One of those Golds belongs to coach Hugh McCutcheon. He led the men’s team to Gold in the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Hugh then switched over to coach the U.S. Women’s National team to a Silver medal finish at the London Olympics in 2012. Now serving as the Assistant Athletics Director for the University of Minnesota, Hugh talks with Janice about his keys to success, and the differences between winning on a national stage versus winning on a global stage at the Olympics.
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For mo...You’re in Charge. Now what? With President and CEO of Báden Sports, Jake Licht

Ever wonder how balls get made, jerseys get designed, and sports equipment gets tested? Jake Licht knows. As the president and CEO of Báden Sports, it’s Jake’s responsibility not to just make your sports supplies, but make them the best.
Janice talks with Jake about the unique path that got him involved with Báden Sports. And hear how, as a CEO, he has learned to lean on himself and others during challenging times.
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For more information go to www.side-out.org. Follow the side-out organization on Instagram: https://www.insta...Modeling the Perfect Team through Your Environment, with Coach Dan Fisher

As a coach, would you choose a player with a small role on a winning team, or take a player with a big role on a losing team? University of Pittsburgh Head Volleyball Coach Dan Fisher has built a VERY successful career out of recruiting players from all types of backgrounds. He tells Janice about his methods and philosophies when it comes to standing out in an extremely competitive field.
Also, discover the superstitious habit Coach Fisher got hooked on after leading his team on an incredible win streak.
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