I Must Be BUG'N
Does the world seem like it's dragging along at a different pace? Do you constantly feel like you're the only one who notices "the emperor has no clothes"? Were you constantly teased or shamed for not conforming to what's "normal"? Do you wish you had accommodations for your needs that others readily received?If that sounds all too familiar, you might be BUGN (Black Underrepresented/Unidentified Gifted and otherwise Neurodivergent).This is a podcast primarily for Black gifted and otherwise neurodivergent people to learn about and discuss our unique experiences. I'm also here to create a safe and empowering space...
Childhood Abuse, Autism and the Beliefs We Must Unlearn
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In this episode of I Must Be BUG'N, I sit down with Lawrence C. Harris, a youth speaker who's turned his own journey through autism, childhood abuse, and personal challenges into a mission to help teens and young adults believe their past doesn't have to write their future. Lawrence walks me through the moment at fifteen when he stopped calling himself a victim and...
The Identities We Don't Know We Have
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I've spent a lot of time thinking about the parts of myself I didn't have language for until later in life. In this recap episode of I Must Be BUG'N, I sit with that feeling after my conversation with Patrick Casale MA LCMHC, an AuDHD therapist who didn't discover he was autistic until he was 35 years old.
I ask the question...
Labeled Gifted As a Child. But AuDHD Adulthood Changed My Life
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What does it actually mean to build a life that works for your brain?
I sat down with Patrick Casale, founder of All Things Private Practice, and co-host of Divergent Conversations, a twice-exceptional, AuDHD therapist, entrepreneur, speaker, and coach, for a conversation that went far beyond any single diagnosis.
Patrick shared his journey from being labeled gifted as...
What Neurodivergence Changes About How We Love
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What happens when you finally start understanding how your brain works? This is a CRITICAL question...
In this recap episode, I revisit my conversation with Dr. Bowen Marshall and discuss some of the most nourishing nuggets we discussed.
In the full episode, we talked about neurodivergent relationships, late identification, autism, ADHD, AuDHD, and the ways our differences can...
Not Everyone Can Come With Us - Neurodivergence, Relationships & the Courage to Grow
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In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Bowen Tyler Marshall, a licensed psychotherapist, PhD, and author specializing in ADHD, autism, relationships, and trauma - for a conversation I've been excited to have for MONTHS. If you're eager to discuss the challenges of neurodivergent relationships, THIS IS YOUR EPISODE. We dig into the science of late diagnosis, why so many people get completely missed...
Where He Started Isn't Where He Finished
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In this episode, I reflect on my conversation with Kwentin Shelton, focusing on the importance of early diagnosis in neurodivergent individuals, the struggles faced by gifted individuals, and the significance of believing in oneself. The discussion emphasizes the need for compassion, support, and understanding in educational and personal contexts, highlighting that one's starting point does not dictate their future success.
Black, Autistic and Resilient
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In this episode, Kwentin Shelton shares his journey of neurodivergence, early diagnosis, and navigating the educational system as a Black man. We explore misconceptions about autism, the importance of representation, and strategies for support and advocacy. Kwentin Shelton shares his inspiring journey overcoming bullying, embracing neurodivergence, and pursuing his passions in tech, education, and creative projects. Discover how community, self-belief, and resilience can transform...
Burnout is a Systemic Red Flag
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In this reflection episode, I discuss my conversation with Dr. Derek Porter, which focused on the themes of burnout, authenticity, privilege, and the societal pressures that shape our experiences. We spent time discussing the costs associated with masking one's true self, the complexities of navigating burnout in various spaces, and the need for equitable systems that support mental health and well-being. I listeners to...
Reframing Burnout in Schools and Beyond - Part 2
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In Part 2 and the conclusion of this episode, I continue our discussion with Dr. Derek Porter around the critical issues of burnout, organizational failure, and the importance of understanding neurodivergence in educational and community spaces. We get a little deeper into the challenges of creating inclusive environments in schools and how these challenges are particularly impacting already marginalized groups such as women and BIPOC...
Reframing Burnout in Schools and Beyond - Part 1
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In Part 1 of this episode, I chop it up with Dr. Derek Porter about how burnout is a systems issue and not a personal failure. We discuss organizational inequities and how they impact schools and companies as a whole, especially neurodivergent and other marginalized people. We begin to discuss the necessary elements of systemic change, human connection, and understanding marginalized experiences to create healthier...
Manhood and Disability Don't Have to be Taboos
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In this short reflection episode, I talk about a few key takeaways from my recent episode with Mark Travis Rivera. I discuss the importance of redefining manhood, especially in light of the recent domestic violence tragedies. I also discuss why we should get more comfortable with the word disability and...
Neurodivergent Plus Disabled, And I Thrive
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In this episode, I get the chance to chat with Mark Travis Rivera, an award-winning creative entrepreneur and storyteller. We discuss Mark's journey of embracing his neurodivergence, the importance of storytelling, and how dance has shaped his identity, especially as someone with a physical disability. Mark shares his story as a Brown, neurodivergent, disabled, queer man, including the impact of losing...
Intelligence Doesn't Follow the Rules
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In this short reflection episode, I talk about a few key reflections on my recent episode with Aurora Remember. I discuss the importance of understanding yourself, particularly via diagnosis and self-acceptance. The power of authenticity can change our jobs and our relationships. I also highlight her push for us to lean into...
How Intensity Can Signal Inspiration
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In this episode, I speak with Aurora Remember, a school psychologist and host of the "Embracing Intensity" podcast. We discuss the concept of neurodivergence, the difference between self-control and self-regulation, burnout and how to recover from it as well as how to improve the school experience for neurodivergent learners, especially twice-exceptional ones...
Why Adults in Schools Matter
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In this short, reflection episode, I talk about a few key reflections on my recent episode with Shakela Strawberry. I discuss the importance of adult's taking responsibility for educating our youth, including neurodivergent children. I speak about how the education industry can be a powerful arm of the oppressive systems we're fighting...
Maybe They're Not 'Bad' Kids, They're Just Neurodivergent
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In this episode, I chat with Shakela Strawberry, a mom, special-education teacher and non-profit founder who is a dedicated advocate for neurodivergent people. Shakela shares her journey from being a mother to an advocate and educator, highlighting the challenges faced by neurodivergent children in the education system. She discusses her...
How Neurodivergence Transforms Companies
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In this episode, I speak with Michael Asaku-Yeboah, a vocational therapist and inclusion consultant. This is a DEEP conversation where we discuss things like the importance of understanding one's neurodivergence, what it's like for neurodivergent people in corporate spaces and how he's doing work to help Fortune 100 companies...
Neuroplasticity, AI and Masculinity's Future
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In my latest conversation, I get the honor of chatting with David Hester, PhD again. Per usual, we talked about just about EVERYTHING (haha). David shares his thoughts on neuroplasticity (old dogs CAN learn new tricks), the promise and dangers of artificial intelligence and the need for ethical tech, perceptions of neurodivergence that aren't based in deficits...
It Must Be Time to Rest and Revisit
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In this episode, I reflect on some of my favorite episodes that are good to review during this time of rest and restoration. Listen to hear how you can help 2026 be a transformative year for me.
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Hi [Insert Name] — I wanted to put Sheldon Gay on yo...A Heart Attack Forced Him to Reboot His ADHD
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In this episode, I speak with Dr. Jeff, an expert helping people with ADHD transform their lives, especially in the workplace. We discussed Dr. Jeff's personal journey with ADHD, the challenges he faced, and how he developed a system to help others harness their ADHD. He tells us about being saved from wandering...
I Wasn't Bipolar...I Was Autistic
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In this episode, we speak with Ayanna Sanaa Davis, an award-winning autism advocate, discussing her unique journey as a Black autistic woman. She shares about her misdiagnosis where she was erroneously institutionalized as well as how art has given her a voice, even when she hasn't wanted to verbalize. She even shares about the...
Mom, I'm Autistic - A conversation with Janelle Johnson, LMFT-S
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In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Janelle Johnson, LMFT-S, a licensed marriage and family therapist, as well as a neurodiversity and disability advocate. We had a good ole time discussing the future of intersectional neurodivergent advocacy, especially as it relates to race and gender. Janelle shared a POWERFUL personal story about her...
Why Anger is Necessary for Joy
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In this episode, I delve into the complexities of anger, highlighting a number of ways that its presence is a pathway to healthier relationships. I discuss the importance of investigating anger rather than suppressing it and, furthermore, how societal norms, especially those dictated by systems of oppression, create extra burdens for melanated and marginalized people. I also share...
Is it a Neurodivergent Excuse or a Reason?
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In this episode, I explore and explain something that can be a bit confusing, the difference between excuses and reasons. Many of us have seen this come up in our neurodivergent communities. It seems we run into challenges when sharing our intent and thought process. It's frustrating because we want to improve and maintain our relationships...
It Must Be a Conversation with Rev. Nicholas Young
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In this episode, I have a powerful conversation with Reverend Nicholas Young about the intersections of faith, mental health, and the unique challenges faced by gifted and otherwise neurodivergent people. We touch on the importance of community, the role of grief in both ministry and therapy, and how to continue to center love and connection in a world filled with so many challenges. We also talk about the importance of working with Black boys...
It Must Be the Lesson in the Mirror
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In this episode, I explore the concept of being a mirror in relationships and how we can learn emphasizing the importance of self-reflection and personal growth. I delve into how our interactions with others can serve as mirrors, revealing lessons about ourselves. I discuss leveraging boundaries, the role of triggers in emotional responses, and the necessity of compassion for oneself and others. We talk a little James Baldwin and Rumi. This episode is about...
It Must Be Eugenics
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In this episode, I discuss the recent proposal by RFK Jr. to create a database of autistic individuals, expressing deep concern over the implications of such a move. He emphasizes the importance of community, advocacy, and understanding the complexities surrounding autism and neurodivergence. Sheldon calls for collective action against systemic oppression and misinformation, urging listeners to remain vocal and supportive of marginalized communities.
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The proposal to create a...It Must Be My MEgo
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In this episode, I take my time really digging into the concept of ego, exploring its role in self-awareness and personal identity. I discuss the importance of understanding the ego as both a source of strength and a potential obstacle. I briefly discuss Freud while leaning much more heavily on the thoughts of Mooji and my own thoughts about how we conceptualize our Self.
I talk a bit about psychological theories...
It Must Be 2025 - Leave it and Receive it
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In this episode, I reflect on some things we need to leave in 2024 and some key things we need to make sure we're honing in on for 2025. I discuss things like patriarchy, the importance of internal validation, and the need for authentic community connections. How healthy boundaries and the power of imagination in creating new ways of being change our future? Join me as I think critically about our roles in perpetuating and dismantling oppressive systems while...
It Must Be a Conversation with Dr. Matt
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In this previously recorded episode, I speak with Dr. Matt Zakreski, a clinical psychologist specializing in neurodivergence and giftedness. We explore the complexities of being neurodivergent, the importance of self-discovery, and the need for supportive environments for gifted individuals. Dr. Matt shares his personal experiences as someone who was identified as gifted early but had to wait several years to be diagnosed with ADHD. The discussion highlights the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals and the necessity of...
It Must Be Good Grief
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In this episode, I explore the complex nature of grief through personal experiences I've encountered over the past year or so. I reflect on the multiple deaths/transitions that led me to this point in my journey. I discuss the death of our cat, my grandmother, the challenge of ending a long-term marriage as well as the...
It Must Be Election Grief
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In this episode, I reflect on the emotional aftermath of the recent elections in the United States. I acknowledge the real and healthy grief many of us are experiencing. I spoke off the cuff and without any notes or quotes or prepared thoughts, just my heart. I give the briefest glimpse into why this goes much deeper than whether "my team...
It Must Be a Another Conversation about Decolonizing Neurodivergence
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Today we're welcoming back friend of the podcast, Dr. Kimberly Douglass. We're catching up with her and speaking more in-depth about what it means to, as she says, "Decolonize Neurodivergence" as well as why it's so important. Per usual, we just vibe and share our thoughts about how systems of oppression create unnecessary and harmful conditions we must work to free...
What is The Largest 4 Digit Number? - GUEST EPISODE - Square Pegs Podcast
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Join me for my first guest/collaboriation episode where I was interviewed by Arash Zaghi of the "Square Pegs" podcast. This is one of my favorite episdoes because Arash's vision is very much aligned with mine.
I share my journey as a neurodivergent person, reflecting on childhood experiences, educational...
It Must Be a Conversation with LaToya Hinton, PhD - Part 2
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We're back with the conclusion of our latest episode where I talk with the amazing LaToya Hinton, PhD. She is a late-identified AuDHDer who's gifted. LaToya is a mixed methods researcher, data nerd, python programmer and advocate for neurodivergent women leaders. She had so much to share about her experience of seld-discovery, how her relationship with her parents may have impacted...
It Must Be a Conversation with LaToya Hinton, PhD - Part 1
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We're back with a new episode where I talk with the amazing LaToya Hinton, PhD. She is a late-identified AuDHDer who's gifted. LaToya is a mixed methods researcher, data nerd, python programmer and advocate for neurodivergent women leaders. She had so much to share about her experience of seld-discovery, how her relationship with her parents may have impacted her neurodivergent journey...
It Must Be Them, Not Me - Part 1
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Ok, the self-awareness episode is HERE....finally. This is something I've been chewing on for MONTHS but I finally found time and space to start breaking down my thoughts. This first episode covers a lot of ground but is really just about the basics.
I attempt to share my thoughts on:
Why should want to look...It Must Be a Conversation with Shea Belsky
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In this episode I spoke with Shea Belsky who is the Chief Technology Officer for Mentra, a hiring platform for neurodivergent job seekers. We talked about the impact of more people receiving a diagnosis or even self-identifying as neurodivergent. Shea shares his experience as someone who was diagnosed with autism early in life and how it colors his career...
It Must Be a Conversation with Angela Davis - The Kitchenista
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Welcome to Season 2! In this episode we start out STRONG. I had the honor of having a discussion with Angela Davis aka the Kitchenista. She allowed me to create a safe space to discuss her journey of neurodivergent discovery. She shares her thoughts on going from being misdiagnosed when she was younger (all too common for Black women) while feeling...
It Must Be a Conversation with Kaitlin Smith
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In the final episode of my first Season, I interview Kaitlin Smith, MSW, Founder of Our Wild Minds. We talk about her work creating an amazing community for gifted BIPOC adults. Kaitlin shares her story, including the challenges of facing racism, sexism and mysogyny that created a significant misalignment with colleagues within her preparations to become a psychotherapist. She talks...
