The Trish and Sarah Wrestling Podcast

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Join devoted wrestling fans Trish and Sarah as they do a deep dive into the wide world of wrestling! They discuss ratings and ticket data (and then break it down), review and occasionally mock the IWC discourse, and enjoy the strange, funny, and fantastic sport that is professional wrestling!

Episode 42
06/17/2025

Episode 42! Trish and Sarah start with AEW's build to All In, beginning with Mercedes Mone vs Toni Storm and then Omega vs Okada (7:40) before moving on to the main event angles for Moxley vs Hangman (16:15) and then a discussion of All In ticket sales. (29:00) How have the four hour shows gone? (39:15) What the hell is going on with the Hurt Syndicate? (46:30) Then they move on to WWE. CM Punk heads to Saudi (52:50) and WWE tries to appease a potential fan rebellion by re-signing R Truth. (1:03:35) With the Evolution PPV in just a few weeks, what's the current state of...


Episode 41
#41
05/27/2025

Episode 41! Trish and Sarah are back from their break and ready to process their emotions about Double or Nothing. They start with the Owen Final between Mercedes Moné and Jamie Hayter and what the summer may look like for the AEW Women's Division (12:45) before taking a look at Anarchy in the Arena and why it's a signature match for the promotion. (23:00) Plus- the curious case of Gabe Kidd in AEW. (33:35) Then! Hangman vs Will Ospreay- the build, the match, how this came about, and what happens next? (42:22) Next up is a quick look at AEW's decision to run summer r...


Episode 40
#40
04/29/2025

Episode 40, and Trish and Sarah tackle WrestleMania 41: the build, the show itself, and the crowd. Have they strayed from what drove their recent growth? They also look at the conflict between Triple H and the Rock (25:00) and the Mania Week PR blitz. Does TKO's current business model give the Rock leverage? Then, WWE is buying AAA. (1:07:20) What does this mean for Mexican wrestling and what impact could it have on wrestling worldwide? Next they take a quick look at Stardom and current free agents (1:37:00) before closing with Naito's impending departure from NJPW. (1:42:05)



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Episode 39
#39
04/15/2025

Episode 39! Trish and Sarah take a look AEW's Dynasty PPV and another messy main event angle. Can the Death Riders be AEW's Bloodline? Then- there's been a lot of talk lately that the Death Riders are driving business for AEW. Are they? Trish takes a deep dive into the numbers to prove (or— spoiler alert—DISprove) the claim. (50:00) Finally—a quick look at NJPW and Goto's title run. (1:46:40)



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Episode 38
#38
04/01/2025

Episode 38! And Trish and Sarah take a ride on the Road to WrestleMania and what seems to have been a disappointing build to WWE's biggest show of the year. Are WWE doing anything differently than they were a year or so ago? Next- what will it take for US promotions to put women's wresting in big spots on the card? (32:32) Then listener questions take our hosts through a potpourri of AEW topics: a Dynasty Preview (46:45), Rated FTR (1:11:30), The Hurt Syndicate (1:19:15), wrestler departures and new arrivals (1:24:20) and the possibility of Collision moving nights (1:39:21). Last but not least, a look at...


Episode 37
#37
03/18/2025

Episode 37! Trish and Sarah start things off with discussing what they loved about AEW's Revolution and how it did business wise (43:00) before talking about the Men's World Title match (51:15) and how disconnected that felt from the rest of a fantastic show. Then- WWE! (1:16:40) The politics of Cena's heel turn and what that says about who has power in WWE right now. Plus, TKO's embrace of Trump and the right wing and how this could affect their business- including UFC's upcoming media rights negotiations. (1:30:27)



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Episode 36
#36
03/04/2025

Episode 36, and Trish and Sarah start off with The Big Angle from WWE's Elimination Chamber and its impact on the Road to WrestleMania. Can WWE stay hot forever? Then they move on to a discussion of Ryan Nemeth's lawsuit against AEW, Tony Khan, and CM Punk. How does it differ from Nemeth's original HR complaint and media reports from 2023? (27:18) Then a follow up about last ep's BTE segment. What does parasocial mean, exactly? Are AEW wrestlers all beta males? Or are wrestling podcasters just weird? (49:04) Next up- an AEW Revolution preview and the ways AEW's focus changed between January...


Episode 35
#35
02/18/2025

Episode 35! Trish and Sarah start with a review of New Beginning in Osaka, and a big picture look at NJPW after their third big show of 2025. What is this Goto reign looking to achieve? Then they talk about AEW's Grand Slam show in Australia, (36:22) from the logistical issues to the in-ring, before a discussion on BTE (1:15:31) and how the ways AEW engages with fans has changed since 2019. They move on to the recent AEW releases (1:45:32) before finishing with updates on WWE and Vince McMahon's legal issues. (1:52:18)



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Episode 34
#34
02/04/2025

Episode 34 and Trish and Sarah begin with Janel Grant's amended complaint, the new questions raised by it as well as the ones that remain outstanding, and WWE's media strategy before and after the filing. They then turn to WWE's 2025 business (29:11) and their current strategy of flooding the market (39:50), making things far more difficult for their competition. The discussion moves on to how AEW is countering (52:18) as they look at the biggest angles in AEW right now. Finally, your hosts have a hot debate on the likely outcomes of a possible Hangman-MJF program (1:24:40). Could this be a life raft for...


Episode 33
#33
01/21/2025

Episode 33! And Trish and Sarah are ready to tackle last week's outburst of AEW Fan dissatisfaction- and their own. They start the show with a rundown of the current programs in AEW, how those programs were presented on Dynamite this week, and how both fans and wrestlers are frustrated with the current direction. Then- a look at retirement matches. Who do they really benefit? Is the juice worth the squeeze when it comes to wrestler send-offs? (53:40) They also look at WWE's new agreement with TNA and what's behind it (1:21:05) before turning to the possible role a revitalized NJPW could...


Episode 32
#32
01/07/2025

Episode 32 and Trish and Sarah welcome in 2025 with a NJPW-flavored bang as Trish checks in from the Tokyo Dome with a live report! They start with a discussion of Wrestle Kingdom- the Good, the Bad, and the Shota. Then they move on to cover Wrestle Dynasty, (36:46) including a discussion on the incredible return match of Kenny Omega, Chris Charlton's less than incredible commentary, and Konosuke Takeshita's new NJPW contract. This leads to a talk on overexposure in AEW (1:32:07) and how the Death Riders angle is just not working. Then they finish with a few WWE updates! (1:54:00)



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The Trish and Sarah and Tunnel Talk Holiday Extravaganza
12/24/2024

Trish and Sarah engage in the long tradition of crossover holiday specials as the hosts of Tunnel Talk drop in for an episode filled with some facts and a whole lot of feelings! The supergroup of hosts gives out end-of-year awards, answers trivia questions, and- in classic Tunnel Talk fashion- send some wrestlers on a few truly disastrous dates. We had an absolute blast and sent 2024 out in the best way!



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Episode 31B - Interview with Andy of RevPro
12/19/2024

Today, Trish is joined by Andy Quildan of Revolution Pro Wrestling, as they discuss the promotion's origins and the growth of its international relationships, including hosting NJPW Young Lions on excursion. They talk about what the promotion looks for when recruiting, how it views its developmental role in the wrestling ecosystem and the impacts that programs like WWE ID might have. They also discuss the challenges facing an independent wrestling promoter, and Rev Pro's response to Speaking Out. Finally, Andy provides some insight into this weekend's Uprising card and tells us what he is most proud of from the...


Episode 31
#31
12/10/2024

Episode 31! Trish and Sarah start out with NJPW's World Tag League Final and a discussion of the cards for Wrestle Kingdom and Wrestle Dynasty. How have the cards changed? What are the most exciting matches? Next they talk about how the backstage power struggle at WWE spilled out into the open this week- are we in for another messy Mania season? (20:38) Then updates on the Ring Boys lawsuit and the Janel Grant case (40:00) and a discussion of Ryan Nemeth's complaint against AEW- yes, they open the box. (45:21) This week was a wild one for AEW discourse- are things really...


Episode 30
#30
11/26/2024

Episode 30! Trish and Sarah are back from their break and ready to dive into all things Full Gear- their likes and dislikes, how they felt about the main event and the closing angle, whether AEW is now too heel-heavy, and of course some Full Gear business updates. (1:44) Then they move onto recent discussions about appearance in wrestling (56:20) before breaking down AEW's recently announced Live Schedule (1:03:46) and how GCW feels about it. (1:12:30) Next up is a talk about Kenny Omega's triumphant return... to NJPW? (1:25:40) and the upcoming Wrestle Kingdom and Wrestle Dynasty shows. (1:39:55) Finally they discuss the impact of the...


Episode 29
#29
10/29/2024

Episode 29, and Trish and Sarah start with the recent lawsuit filed against WWE and Vince & Linda McMahon regarding the Ring Boys Scandal, before moving on to cover updates on the Janel Grant case. (21:22) Then they talk about the Rolling Stone article on the WWE writer's room and Carlito's recent racist line on WWE Raw (27:20). Then- NJPW! Tanahashi's retirement announcement (38:27), how important having young women fans are to the success of wrestling promotions (56:42), and Naito's strong 2024 box office performance. (1:15:51) Finally- listener questions on the plans for Mox's title run, new platforms for WWE and AEW, and Collision's brand (1:20:12)


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Episode 28
#28
10/15/2024

Episode 28 and Trish and Sarah are joined by Rich Latta of One Nation Radio! They start with a review of AEW's WrestleDream PPV (2:35) before moving on to a dissection of Bryan Danielson's title reign and the positives and negatives of AEW's current booking. (22:12) Then they tackle AEW's new Media Deal (57:38) before moving on to talk about what the last week has illustrated about WWE's internal culture. (1:27:57)



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Episode 27
10/01/2024

Trish and Sarah are back for Episode 27! They begin with the Mr McMahon documentary- the positives and negatives of the show itself, which WWE narratives it questioned and which ones it didn't. Then- the bad breakup between Fox and WWE, and what that might mean for AEW. (1:19:11). They talk about NXT's move to the CW Network and the value of its new contract (1:27:45) before tackling some listener questions (1:42:30).



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Episode 26
#26
09/17/2024

Episode 26, and Trish and Sarah start off with a discussion of All Out and the culmination of the Hangman and Swerve feud before moving on to discuss the business of All Out (26;48) and the fan response (36:00). Next they look at the breakup of the BCC and Jon Moxley's challenge to Darby Allin (39:50) and the impact that might have on Grand Slam ticket sales (47:42). Then they answer a listener question about Kenny Omega's presentation in AEW (60:00) before covering the Kevin Kelly/Tate Twins lawsuit against AEW (69:10). They also ask if Smackdown on Fox was a success (1:25:30) and talk about NXT's...


Episode 25
#25
09/03/2024

Welcome to Episode 25! Trish and Sarah start off with a robust discussion of AEW's All In at Wembley Stadium, covering title changes, crowd reactions, and the live fan experience. (0:37) Then they turn to the recent re-signing of Swerve Strickland, WWE's comments about "market value" and the discourse that resulted (52:45). Finally a discussion of WWE, the rumors of a potential performance center in Las Vegas, and the events of Bash in Berlin (1:26:31). Plus, your hosts make their first official apology!



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Episode 24
#24
08/20/2024

Trish and Sarah return for Episode 24 and start off with an update on the Janel Grant lawsuit (00:37), and then discuss how WWE is changing how it counterprograms AEW while not leaving themselves open to anti-trust allegations (7:17). Then onto the recent USA Today article about the TNA/WWE relationship, and a discussion about how TNA is benefitting from working with WWE and how that compares to TNA's relationship with AEW (16:07). They also discuss Tony Khan's recent comments about contract tampering, AEW's history of adding time for injury, and the potential moves in and out of AEW (32:41). Then we move on...


Episode 23
#23
08/06/2024

Welcome to Episode 23, and we start off with the WWE and the developments in the TKO antitrust lawsuit (0:35), reactions to Summer Slam 2024 (13:35), Logan Paul's recent transphobic comments (28:33), and Shane McMahon's meeting with Tony Khan (38:28). Then we move over to AEW and take a look at the Collision residency (42:33), and discuss what impact Face vs Face matches have on business and if we have moved past traditional Face vs Heel matchups.(51:12). Then we look at the prospect of Wrestlemania in London before a surprise from our friends at Tunnel Talk (1:37:09)



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Episode 22
#22
07/23/2024

Trish and Sarah are back for another episode, and kick off with an update on the Janel Grant case (0:39). They also discuss the Liv Morgan and Dom Mysterio storyline and the ways it echoes current events (6:07). Then a discussion on the changes to WWE's live event strategy and the business of Summerslam (13:16). We also take a look at the prospect of an AEW stadium show in the US (24:31). Then we get to the meat of our episode—AEW's successes and failures with their builds to both Blood and Guts and All In (41:36) We discuss what is actually behind Hangman's fr...


Episode 21
#21
07/09/2024

Your hosts return for Episode 21, where we dive into the highlights of the recent AEW/NJPW/CMLL PPV Forbidden Door (1:13). We discuss the Swerve/Ospreay match and developments in the title scene as we head towards Wembley, the disappointing Mox/Naito match and thoughts on Mox's future, and the returns of Britt Baker and Hangman Adam Page. Then we wrap up with a conversation about WWE's recent documentary release and their business outlook moving forward (1:35:34)



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Episode 20B - We Talk to Bryan Alvarez
06/29/2024

Bryan joins us for a discussion of Wrestling Media- past, present and future.



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Episode 20
#20
06/25/2024

This week on the podcast, AEW is in a hole and dying and will not survive the crisis that was the Juneteenth Rating. Or will they? Your hosts explain why it's a fool's errand to look at any one week's ratings in isolation, and what factors could have contributed to the loss in viewers. (1:36) We also discuss what makes AEW unique and how they can use that to counter moves from WWE (33:10). Then it's tournament time as we review the G1 announcement and the reveal of the Owen tournament cards. (1:16:21). Finally, it's listener questions, and we got some good...


Episode 19
#19
06/11/2024

Trish and Sarah are back for Episode 19! We begin with the fallout from NJPW's Dominion show, where we ask the question, could the Juniors main event Wrestle Kingdom? (1:55) We then move into a discussion of the Forbidden Door card so far and what talking point is driving us insane (30:06). We also breakdown the changes that are allowing former AAA wrestlers to appear on shows alongside CMLL talent (1:14:35). We then run through some WWE updates (1:22:28) Before getting into some listener questions and maybe banter? (1:35:15)



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Episode 18
#18
05/28/2024


Trish and Sarah return for Episode 18! We kick off the show with reactions to Double or Nothing, both the show itself and the critical reaction surrounding it. (0:35). This leads us to a discussion about All In and the state of the ticket buys at the moment, as well as thoughts about possible matches. (22:47) We also talk about 18-34 ratings for Dynamite, and the state of the major AEW programs as we head into summer (52:52). Then it’s over to discuss the recent announcement of Collision’s residency in Arlington, TX (1:23:53). We wrap up with listener questions (1:33:15) and...


Episode 17
#17
05/14/2024

Trish and Sarah return for Episode 17 and it's a weighty one. They start by covering developments in the Janel Grant lawsuit (00:36). Then it's over to Paris for the WWE Backlash press conference and the Drew Gulak situation (10:08). Trish and Sarah then discuss the media reaction and the challenges of the changing media landscape (41:51). Then your hosts look at the changes to WWE business (1:16:24) and discuss how AEW are moving into the summer in their TV deal year. (1:24:30)



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Episode 16
#16
04/30/2024

It's Episode 16, and Trish and Sarah are back to discuss the AEW Dynasty PPV and Swerve Strickland's historic win as the first black AEW Men's World Champion. They discuss his match, the follow up on Dynamite and Collision, and the potential pitfalls that lay ahead. (0:52) Then it's over to the Elite and their attack on AEW President Tony Khan. Your hosts discuss the savvy way AEW rolled this into NFL draft coverage, the opportunities to further the storyline in Winnipeg, and what this story can do for Jack Perry (40:45). Then Trish and Sarah answer listener questions about AEW's ratings...


Episode 15
#15
04/16/2024

What a week! Trish and Sarah start out with covering Mania Weekend--the end of Cody's story, the centering of Paul Levesque, and the likelihood of WWE growth moving forward. (0:43) Then, it's time to roll the tape as we switch gears to AEW and the airing of the All In Backstage footage. Was it the right choice to do it on TV? Did it further the Young Bucks/FTR feud? How did it impact Jack Perry's appearance on Windy City Riot? We get into all that, and answer a few listener questions on AEW's future and potential upcoming title reigns. (31:06...


Episode 14B - CM Punk Is Not Mad
04/06/2024

and Sarah and Trish break down exactly why!



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Episode 14
#14
04/02/2024

Trish and Sarah have gotten a couple of really great listener questions, and this week, they respond! First up is Ratings 101 - your hosts walk you through some of the basics, explain the pitfalls around interpreting it, and discuss who is looking at this data and what they're using it for and how it impacts the perception of AEW (0:36). Then they tackle the question of How Often Should a Champion Wrestle? (1:04:15) Finally, they wrap things up with a conversation about the impact of worked shoots (1:17:02) and make some predictions about upcoming events (1:37:46)!



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Episode 13
#13
03/19/2024

Your hosts return for Episode 13, and they start out with an update on the Janel Grant lawsuit. Trish and Sarah talk about the name reveals and what WWE knew, and when they knew it (0:36). Then Trish reports back on her recent trip to Japan, and she and Sarah answer a listener question about the State of NJPW (32:37). Finally, they check in on AEW and the unveiling of the Tag Team tournament. What does it mean to elevate someone, and is anyone doing it well? (1:10:36)



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Episode 12
#12
03/05/2024

It's Episode 12, and Viva La Revolution! Your hosts review this weekend's pay-per-view, and discuss the success of the Bucks/Sting and Darby match, Hangman's heel turn, and where Ospreay should go next (0:00). Then Trish and Sarah move on to discuss the hiring of Jennifer Pepperman (1:01:28), answer a listener question about wrestling journalism (1:13:09), and finally, a discussion of WWE's recent Elimination Chamber! (1:40:25)



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Episode 11
#11
02/20/2024

In this installment of Trish and Sarah, our hosts tackle the newest developments in the WWE sex abuse scandal, and new details about the Ashley Massaro case (00:39), examining the recent free agents and their potential impacts of these moves on AEW, NJPW and WWE (29:50) Then it's on to an analysis of AEW's recent ticket sales and comparisons with the historical data (1:33:50). Join us!



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Episode 10
#10
02/06/2024

It's been a rough week in wrestling, and Trish and Sarah are in no mood for BS. They talk about the facts of the lawsuit against WWE, and discuss the culpability of not just Vince but the other executives and partners involved. They also take a hard look at wrestling media and the failures in how this has been covered, not just this week but long term. After wrapping up with WWE, they move over to AEW (1:32:00) with speculation about Mercedes Mone, Okada, and the new partnership with CMLL.



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Episode 9
#9
01/23/2024

Episode 9 and there's a lot for Trish and Sarah to discuss! First up, the Big Okada news (0:30)! and then your hosts take a victory lap and discuss the positive outlook both have for AEW after the recent changes! (42:00) A key cornerstone to their optimism is that the RANKINGS ARE BACK! (46:00). Trish and Sarah talk about what the previous incarnation of the rankings systems looked like, what the company was like without it, and their hopes for the reinstatement. Then- the Young Bucks are back, mustaches and all! (57:30) Trish and Sarah break down the new gimmick and what it could...


Episode 8
#8
01/09/2024

Trish and Sarah return from their holiday and they are FIRED UP! First is a robust review of Worlds End and the state of AEW (01:24), followed by a discussion of Wrestle Kingdom and satisfying conclusions to character arcs (48:23). Then it's over to WWE personnel changes and the impact of the Rock returning to Raw (1:01:32). Finally, Trish and Sarah discuss the recent Nick Hausman comments regarding Chris Jericho (1:22:14)



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Episode 7
#7
12/12/2023

Episode 7 and Trish and Sarah decide that it's time to Correct the Record on what they got wrong last week! Which means reviewing Punk's return promo, checking in on All In Ticket sales and discussing the success of the Continental Classic and the impact it's had on the rest of the booking Finally, Trish and Sarah discuss the rumors swirling around NJPW and Okada, and what that might mean for the future. Please note, Trish and Sarah are taking an episode off for the Holidays, and your favorite show will return on January 9th!



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