Ten Things I Like About... Podcast

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By: Kiersten Gibizov

This is a 10-minute, 10-episode podcast about misunderstood or unknown wildlife.

Aba aba: Reproduction
#119
Last Wednesday at 10:05 PM

Summary: How do Aba aba make more Aba aba? Join Kiersten to find out about the reproductive behavior of Gymnarchus niloticus.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“Abundance, Distribution, Morphometric, Feeding Evaluation and the Reproductive Strategies of Gymnarchus niloticus in the Lower River Niger at Agenebode, Edo State Nigeria,” by Mo Agbugui, Fe Abhulimen, and Ao Adeniyi. J. Apple. Sci. Environ. Manage Vol. 25 (8). 1371-1377, August 2021.

“Gymnarchus niloticus Cuvier, 1829

“Some Ecological Factors of the Tropica...


Aba aba: Habitat
#118
07/09/2025

Summary: Where are Aba aba found? Join Kiersten as she tells where you can find these amazing fish.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: “Gymnarchus niloticus” Global Biodiversity Information Facility, https://www.gbif.org

“Gymnarchus niloticus, Aba aba” Seriously Fish, https://www.seriouslyfish.com

“Morphology of Aba Knife Fish (Gymnarchus niloticus) (Cuvier, 1829)”, by S.O. Ayoola and C. E. Abotti. World Journal of Fish and Marine Sciences 2 (5): 354-356, 2010.

Music written and performed by Katherine C...


Aba aba Fish
#117
07/02/2025

Summary: What’s an Aba aba? It’s our next unknown creature! Join Kiersten as she introduces us to the Aba aba fish.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: “Gymnarchus niloticus” Global Biodiversity Information Facility, https://www.gbif.org

“Gymnarchus niloticus, Aba aba” Seriously Fish, https://www.seriouslyfish.com

“Morphology of Aba Knife Fish (Gymnarchus niloticus) (Cuvier, 1829)”, by S.O. Ayoola and C. E. Abotti. World Journal of Fish and Marine Sciences 2 (5): 354-356, 2010.

Music written an...


Screamers: Conservation
#116
05/14/2025

Summary: Are Screamers in need of conservation? Join Kiersten to find out!

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Screamers: https://animaldiversity.org

Data Zone by Bird Life: https://datazone.birdlife.org

IUCN Red List: https://www.iucnredlist.org

American Bird Conservancy: https://abcbirds.org/bird/southern-screamer/

Asociacion Armonia: https://armoniabolivia.org

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Screamers: Eyes and Beak
#115
05/07/2025

Summary: Join Kiersten as she talks about the eyes and beaks of the Screamer.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Ornithology 3rd Edition by Frank B. Gill

“The evolutionary relationship among beak shape, mechanical advantage, and feeding ecology in modern birds,” by Guillermo Naval, Jen A. Bright, Jesus Marugan-Lobon, and Emily J. Rayfield. Evolution 73-3;422-435, Society for the Study of Evolution. doi:10.1111/evo.13655

“Bird Eye Color: A Rainbow of Variation, a Spectrum...


Screamers: Vocalizations
#114
04/30/2025

Summary: Do Screamers actually scream? Find out in this episode of Ten Things I Like About Screamers.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“Observations on the Horned Screamer,” by Frank B. Gill, F.J. Stokes, and C.C. Stokes. Wilson Bulletin, Vol. 86 (1974), Iss. 1, Art. 6. https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/wilson_bulletin/vol86/iss1/6

Screamer Vocalizations: https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/horscr1/cur/sounds

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

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Screamers: More Anatomical Anomalies
#113
04/16/2025

Summary: You mean Screamers have even more physical oddities? Yep! Join Kiersten to find out about more anatomical anomalies of Screamers.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Ornithology 3rd Edition by Frank B. Gill

“A peculiar association: the skin and the subcutaneous diverticula of the Southern Screamer (Chauna torquata, Anserifomes), by Mariana B. J. Picasso, Maria Clelia Mosto, Romina Tozzi, Federico J. Degrange, and Claudio G. Barbeito. Vertebrate Zoology, 64(2): 245-249, 7/25/2014.

“A Study of the...


Screamers: Skeletal Anomalies
#112
04/09/2025

Summary: Can Screamers get any stranger? You bet! Join Kiersten as she discusses some skeletal anomalies that Screamers possess.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Functional significance of the uncinate processes in birds”, by Pete G. Tickle, A. Roland Ennos, Laua E. Lennox, Steven F. Perry, and Jonathan R. Codd. The Journal of Experimental Biology 210, 3955-3961. 2007 doi:10.1242/jeb.008953

“Uncinate processes in birds: Morphology, physiology and function,” by Jonathan R. Codd. Comparative Biochemistry and Physiology Part A: Mo...


Screamers: Spurs
#111
04/03/2025

Summary: What is it with those spurs? Join Kiersten as she takes a closer look at Screamer spurs.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“On the Spurs On Birds’ Wings,” by R. L. Rand. The Wilson Bulletin, June 1954, Vol. 66, No. 2.

Birds of the World: https://birdsoftheworld.org

Screamers: https://animaldiversity.org

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Screamers: Social Structure
#110
03/26/2025

Summary: Do Screamers hang out with other Screamers? That depend on the specs. Join Kiersten to find out a little about the social structure of each species of Screamer.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Aspects of the Biology of the Horned Screamer in Southwestern Colombia,” by Luis G. Naranjo. The Wilson Bulletin, Vol. 98, No. 2 (June, 1986, pp. 243-256

“Mortality of four captive-born crested screamer chicks (Chauan torquata)”, by Lana Fox, Alexis Moreno, and Gregory Bradley. O...


Screamers: Reproduction
#109
03/20/2025

Summary: How do Screamers make more Screamers? Join Kiersten to find out about Screamer reproduction. 

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

Screamers: https://animaldiversity.org

Ornithology 3rd Edition by Frank B. Gill

The Most Perfect Thing: Inside (and Outside) a Bird’s Egg by Tim Birkhead

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Screamers: Species
#108
03/12/2025

Summary: There are three species of Screamers. Join Kiersten to meet each one of them in more detail.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

Screamers: https://animaldiversity.org

Encyclopedia of Life: https://eol.org

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Screamers
#107
03/05/2025

Summary: What’s all that racket? Could it be a Screamer? Join Kiersten to find out.

Show Notes: 

Screamers: https://animaldiversity.org

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Transcript

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Bats: Conservation
#106
02/12/2025

Summary: Bat conservation is the subject of the final episode of the series on bats. Join Kiersten as she talks about what is going on to help bats. 

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Books: “Bats in Question: A Smithsonian Answer Book,” by Don E. Wilson

“America’s Neighborhood Bats,” by Merlin Tuttle

“The Bats of Europe and north America,” by Wilfried Schooner and Eckard Grimmberger

“Bats: A World of Science and Mystery...


Bats: Cool Bat Facts
#105
02/05/2025

Summary: Join Kiersten as she lays out some of the coolest facts about bats!

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/where-we-work?united-states/arizona/stories-in-arizona/top-10-bat-facts/

https://www.doi.gov/blog/13-facts-about-bats

https://batcon.org

Bat honking link: http://macaulaylibrary.org/audio/136292

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Bats: Bats and People
#104
01/29/2025

Summary: How do bats help people? So many ways! Join Kiersten as she tells us why we should be thanking bats.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

Merlin Tuttle Bat Conservation: https://www.merlintuttle.org

“Bats in Question: A Smithsonian Answer Book,” by Don E. Wilson

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp


Bats: Myths Part 2
#103
01/22/2025

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Kiersten - This is Ten Things I Like About…a ten minute, ten episode podcast about unknown or misunderstood wildlife.

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Welcome to Ten Things I Like About… I’m Kiersten, your host, and this is a podcast about misunderstood or unknown creatures in nature. Some we’ll find right out...


Bats: Myths
#102
01/15/2025

Summary: Bats what to fly into your hair and suck your blood! False! In this episode Kiersten talks about some of the most common myths about bats and uncovers the truth.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Kiersten - This is Ten Things I Like About…a ten minute, ten episode podcast about unknown or misunderstood wildlife.


Bats: Migration
#101
01/08/2025

Summary: To migrate or not to migrate? How do bats deal with cooling temperatures? Join Kiersten as she travels through bat migration.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“America’s Neighborhood Bats,” by Merlin Tuttle

“The Bats of Europe and north America,” by Wilfried Schooner and Eckard Grimmberger

“Flying-Foxes - The bush refugees” by Martin Pueschel

Backyard Bats Project: https://www.azgfd.com/wildlife-conservation/living-with-wildlife/backyard-bats-project/ 

Music written and performed by K...


Bats: Reproduction
#100
01/01/2025

Summary: How do bats make more baby bats? Let us count the ways! Join Kiersten as she discusses the various reproductive techniques bats use to make more bats.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Bats in Question: A Smithsonian Answer Book,” by Don E. Wilson

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

Transcript

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Bats: Microchiroptera
#99
12/18/2024

Summary: Now that we've talked about Megachiroptera, let's talk about Microchiroptera! Join Kiersten as she talks about the smallest bats.

 

For my hearing impaired followers, a transcript follows the show notes on Podbean.

 

Show Notes:

“Bats in Question: A Smithsonian Answer Book,” by Don E. Wilson

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Bats: Megachiroptera
#98
12/12/2024

Summary: Join Kiersten as she talk about the largest bats in the world, the Megachiroptera. Don’t worry it’s not scary at all!

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

https://www.ecologyasia.com

https://batcon.org

“Bats in Question: A Smithsonian Answer Book,” by Don E. Wilson

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Bats: What are they?
#97
12/04/2024

Summary: To this day, bats have been one of the most misunderstood animals. Join Kiersten as she reveals what bats are and begins a new series about these amazing creatures.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Bats in Question: A Smithsonian Answer Book,” by Don E. Wilson

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Nepenthes: Conservation
#96
11/07/2024

Episode 94: Nepenthes: Conservation

Summary: How are Nepenthes doing in the wild? Can we help them if the need help? Join Kiersten as she answers these questions and more about Nepenthes conservation.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Nepenthes Conservation: Preserving Earth’s Carnivorous Marvels,” Singapore Carnivorous Plant Society. https://sgcarnivorousplantsociety.medium.com

Nepenthes Species. IUCN Red List, https://www.iucnredlist.org

“I’ll Have Flies with That,” by Kali Shiloh. Stanford Magaz...


Nepenthes: Time to Eat
#95
10/31/2024

Summary: Do plants eat meat? Yes they do! Join Kiersten as she discusses the diet of Nepenthes which includes more than just meat.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Caught in a Trap,” The Biologist 62(2) p12-14.

“Nepenthes lowii: the carnivorous plant that evolved into a toilet,” by Paul Simons. The Guardian, April 2023. https://www.theguardian.com

“Bats Are Acoustically Attracted to Mutualistic Carnivorous Plants,” by Michael G. Schoner, Caroline R Schoner, Ralph Simon, T...


Nepenthes: Life Cycle
#94
10/24/2024

Summary: How do Nepenthes become big strong plants? Join Kiersten as she walks through the stages of Nepenthes life cycle.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Nepenthes. Wikipedia (This page is well referenced).

”Pitcher Plant: Tropical Pitcher Plants-Nepenthes sp.” The North Creek Wetland, https://www.uwb.edu

Tropical Pitcher Plant-Nepenthes. Carnivorous Plant Resource. https://www.carnivorousplantresourcs.com

Nepenthes Phylogeny, International Carnivorous Plant Society. https://www.carnivorousplants.org

Music writte...


Nepenthes: Species
#93
10/17/2024

Summary: How many species of Nepenthes are there and where are they found? Join Kiersten as she takes you on a trip to discover the Nepenthes species.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

Nepenthes. Wikipedia (This page is well referenced).

“Caught in a Trap,” The Biologist 62(2) p12-14.

Tropical Pitcher Plant-Nepenthes. Carnivorous Plant Resource. https://www.carnivorousplantresourcs.com

Nepenthes Phylogeny, International Carnivorous Plant Society. https://www.carnivorousplants.org

Music w...


Unbelievable Unknown Plants: Nepenthes
#92
10/09/2024

Summary: Our next unbelievable unknown plant eats something quite unusual. Join Kiersten as she unravels the amazing life of Nepenthes.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Nepenthes, Britannica Online: https://www.britannica.com

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript

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Rafflesia: Conservation
#91
10/02/2024

Summary: Is the stinkiest flower in the world in danger of disappearing forever? Join Kiersten as she discusses the conservation status of Rafflesia.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“Most of the world’s largest flowers (genus Rafflesia) are now on the brink of extinction,” by Pastor Malabrigo Jr, Adriane B. Tobias, Joko Witono, Sofi Mursidawati, Agus Susatya, Mat Eunuch Siti-Munirah, Adhityo Wicaksono, Reza Raihandhany, Sarah Edwards, and Chris J. Thorogood. https://doi.org/10.1002/ppp3.10431

“Coloss...


Rafflesia: What with that smell?
#90
09/25/2024

Summary: Boy that sticks! Rafflesia are beautiful but stinky flowers. Join Kiersten as she explains why they smell so foul.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

“Colossal Blossom: Pursuing the peculiar genetics of a parasitic plant,” by Jonathan Shaw. Harvard Magazine. https://www.harvardmagazine.com

“What’s that smell? The putrid scent of Rafflesia consueloae, its origin and developmental regulation,” by Erika Marie A. Bascos, Edwina S. Fernando, Melizar V. Duya. Lilian Jennifer V. Rodriguez. F...


Rafflesia: Lifecycle
#89
09/18/2024

Summary: Does a unique flower like rafflesia how a unique life cycle? Join Kiersten to find out!

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“Most of the world’s largest flowers (genus Rafflesia) are now on the brink of extinction,” by Pastor Malabrigo Jr, Adriane B. Tobias, Joko Witono, Sofi Mursidawati, Agus Susatya, Mat Eunuch Siti-Munirah, Adhityo Wicaksono, Reza Raihandhany, Sarah Edwards, and Chris J. Thorogood. https://doi.org/10.1002/ppp3.10431

Start the Week Podcast: Mysterious Plants. 0...


Rafflesia: Where are they found?
#88
09/11/2024

Summary: Where are rafflesia found? Join Kiersten as she visits Southeast Asia (not literally) to find out. 

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

“Most of the world’s largest flowers (genus Rafflesia) are now on the brink of extinction,” by Pastor Malabrigo Jr, Adriane B. Tobias, Joko Witono, Sofi Mursidawati, Agus Susatya, Mat Eunuch Siti-Munirah, Adhityo Wicaksono, Reza Raihandhany, Sarah Edwards, and Chris J. Thorogood. https://doi.org/10.1002/ppp3.10431

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Tran...


Unbelievable Unknown Plants: Rafflesia
#87
09/04/2024

Summary: Rafflesia is a flower but not just any ole flower. Join Kiersten as she discusses this highly unusual plant.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

“Most of the world’s largest flowers (genus Rafflesia) are now on the brink of extinction,” by Pastor Malabrigo Jr, Adriane B. Tobias, Joko Witono, Sofi Mursidawati, Agus Susatya, Mat Eunuch Siti-Munirah, Adhityo Wicaksono, Reza Raihandhany, Sarah Edwards, and Chris J. Thorogood. https://doi.org/10.1002/ppp3.10431

“Rafflesia arnoldii,” Royal Botanic...


Tanuki: Conservation
#86
08/01/2024

Summary: Are tanuki in danger of extinction? Join Kiersten to find out all about the conservation status of the tanuki.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners a full transcript is available in the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

Nyctereutes procyonoides, Raccoon Dog. Animal Diversity Web. https://animaldiversity.org

“A path to human-raccoon dog harmony: identifying factors influencing the tolerance of urban residents in Shanghai towards a neglected species,” by  Qianqian Zhao, Yihan Wang, Lejie Wu, Yidi Feng, Yuhan Li, Zhuojin Zhang, Qing Zhao, and Fang Wang. People and Natu...


Tanuki: Human Use
#85
07/24/2024

Summary: Raccoon Dogs have a complicated relationship with humans. Join Kiersten as she talks about how humans use raccoon dogs.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes: 

Nyctereutes procyonoides, Raccoon Dog. Animal Diversity Web. https://animaldiversity.org

The Origins of “Murmansk” Fur and Its Role in the Fashion Industry,” by Madison Dapcevich, https://www.snopes.com

Keeping Raccoon Dogs as Pets, https://www.rspca.org

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

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Tanuki: Mythology Part 2
#84
07/17/2024

Summary: We’re not yet done with the mythology of tanuki. Join Kiersten for another episode about the supernatural aspects of the raccoon dog.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

https://mythick.com/tanuki

https://wildinjapan.wordpress.com

https://livejapan.com

https://www.curiuosordinary.com

https://sakura.co

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript 

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Tanuki: Mythology Part 1
#83
07/10/2024

Summary: Tanuki are also animals that are wrapped in mythology. Join Kiersten as she talks about the complicated mythology involving raccoon dogs.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

https://mythick.com/tanuki

https://wildinjapan.wordpress.com

https://livejapan.com

https://www.curiuosordinary.com

https://sakura.co

Music written and performed by Katherine Camp

 

Transcript 

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Tanuki: Hunting
#82
07/04/2024

Summary: How do tanuki hunt for food? Join Kiersten as she shares some surprising behaviors that Tanuki use to catch prey.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Nyctereutes procyonoides, Raccoon Dog. Animal Diversity Web. https://animaldiversity.org

“Raccoon Dog (Nyctereutes procyonoides) In the Community of Medium-sized Carnivores n Europe: Its Adaptations, Impact on Native Fauna and Management pf the population.”, by Katrina Kauhala and Rafal Kowalczyk. https://researchgate.net

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Tanuki: Reproduction
#81
06/26/2024

Summary: Let’s talk babies! The reproductive cycle of the Tanuki is simple but interesting! Join Kiersten as she walks you through the seasonal changes that brings Tanuki pups.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Biology and Conservation of Wild Canids, edited by David W. Macdonald and Claudio Sillero-Zubiri. Raccoon dogs: Finnish and Japanese raccoon dogs - on the road to speciation?” By Kaarina Kauhala and Midair Saeki, pgs 217-226. https://static1.squarespace.com

Nyctereutes procyonoides, Raccoon Dog. Animal...


Tanuki: Social Structure
#80
06/19/2024

Summary: How social are tanuki? Do they hang out in packs like wolves or solitary like a fox? Join Kiersten as she dives into the social structure of the raccoon dog.

 

For my hearing impaired listeners, a complete transcript of this podcast follows the show notes on Podbean

 

Show Notes:

Biology and Conservation of Wild Canids, edited by David W. Macdonald and Claudio Sillero-Zubiri. Raccoon dogs: Finnish and Japanese raccoon dogs - on the road to speciation?” By Kaarina Kauhala and Midair Saeki, pgs 217-226. https://static1.squarespace.com

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