MOCA LIVE
Come take a (sometimes boisterous, other times blasphemous) tour around the crypto art world with the Museum of Crypto Art’s founder, Colborn Bell, and lead writer, Max Cohen.
MOCA LIVE: The AI Revolution for Dummies, with Nedos
Today's podcast mines the nitty-gritty of the entire AI revolution —from its economics, to its decentralized use-case, to the way data centers operate, and more— with two of the best quarrymen in the business. MOCA Chief Technology Officer joins Max, and both welcome Founder and CEO of Comput3AI, Nedos, to fill in every possible blank about the world's most important industry. This is a conversation between technical heavyweights (and Max), and surely an episode of MOCA LIVE not to be missed.
MOCA LIVE: UnMasquing a Paradigm Shift, Worldbuilding with Oil Paints, and the Three Rules for Succeeding in Art, with Andres Del Vecchio and Anubis3100
Andres del Vecchio and Anubis3100, besides being unbelievable craftsmen and artists, are brilliant critics, crypto art sages. These two join Max to discuss Andres' "DYBBUK MASQUES," a series of 1/1/x works that might very well portend a change in crypto art's very market dynamics. Or it could just be a marker of Andres' unique talents. "Artist-led PFPs" redefined, connecting with collectors, the appeal of digital avatars, and much more await you in today's episode.
The Cyberbrokers Story so Far, the Marriage of Blockchain and Metaverse, Community and Creativity in Virtual Worlds, with Josie and Ben
On this week's episode, Max and Rene are joined by the co-founders of Cyberbrokers, Drifters, and the greater Paradise Lost universe, Josie and Ben, to discuss how their projects have uplifted, personalized, and deepened the Metaverse experience. From the origin of Cyberbrokers, to the boldness of bringing assets on-chain, to community-building during the Metaverse's death knell, all on the doorstep of Drifters, the Cyberbrokers team's next big flourish.
MOCA LIVE: Will AI Save the Metaverse, un_MUSEUMs, and New Visions for Architecture with Untitled,xyz
In the dark, away from attention, the metaverse grows, thrives even, with the introduction and assistance of AI. AI agents peopling metaverse worlds. AI-generated avatars. But one of the most interesting possibilities of an AI-integrated metaverse is AI architecture, not just for the speed with which virtual 3D structures can be created but the newfound intricacy. It's an entirely new avenue for artistry, both in 3D worlds, and also full-stop, a new frontier.
Today, Colborn and Max talk with MOCA’s resident Metaverse architect, Untitled,XYZ about UnMuseums, a collection of AI-generated architectures and his final flourish for...
MOCA LIVE: How MOCA 2.0 Changes Everything, The Ultimate Art DeCC0s Roadmap, and the MOCA Endgame with Reneil1337
MOCA is evolving, and we want you along for the ride. 2025 is a year of great change for your favorite crypto art museum, and in this episode, Max and MOCA's co-founder and Chief Technology Officer, Reneil1337, dive deep on all the exciting changes. A 10,000-piece PFP turned Agentic AI deployment interface? Supporting ai16z and Hyperfy in all kinds of creative ways? A new vision for $MOCA token? We reveal all that and more. Come find out what's got us all so jazzed up.
MOCA LIVE: A PolyMarket Exit Poll, Our Bet-on-Everything Future, Social Media Persuasion, and Crypto's Near Future
The U.S. Presidential election ends, and all sorts of new questions arise. Ours? Just how influential is PolyMarket, the crypto-based app that brought election betting to the general public? Max and Colborn talk PolyMarket's origins, its seed investments, its political inclinations, and most importantly, its effect (if any) on the elections it revolves around. What does PolyMarket's rise tell us about the electorate? Can betting on election be ethical? This, social media's forcible politicization, the future for crypto in a second Trump term, and much more.
MOCA LIVE: A Shaky Foundation, Platform Desperation, Saying Goodbye to Middlemen, and Choosing a "Local" Crypto Art
Today, Max and Colborn look into the vociferous response to former minting platform, Foundation, realigning itself as a social-media-based business (and one that looks a whole lot like the site our own Colborn helped to build), and try to tease out its meaning. Is a slow rug inevitable? Are all remaining platforms doomed to grasp at any nearby straw? What does a business need to survive in crypto art, and more importantly, how do the rest of us build-up the kind of crypto art we want to see? Can we reestablish a middle class through force-of-will alone?
MOCA LIVE: A Borderline Pathological Level of Ambition, Conceptual Artistry, and Reaching Audiences with Kevin Esherick
Today, a conversation all about conceptual art with the conceptual artist, essayist, and AI dilettante/explorer, Kevin Esherick. Having tackled dense conceptual topics in AI, generative aesthetics, things relating to life and the self and the spirit alike, Kevin is the perfect person to discuss making conceptual art communicable online, the way inspiration affixes itself to a certain medium, ambition, effort, AI, and his latest project, I'm With You, releasing soon.
Find Kevin here: https://x.com/kev_esh
And learn more about I'm With You here:
https://x.com/kev_esh/sta...
An Economic Oil Slick, Free Mints, New Incentives, and the True Motivation of a Crypto Artist
Today, Max and Colborn begin by breaking down a few of the elements that led to the previous week's worldwide economic bludgeoning, and why bad economics might be useful for crypto art's revolution. Then, the two discuss the motivations for crypto artists in a financialization-less ecosystem, the rise of free mints, the value of ubiquity, and what's left in crypto art when all the attention, the funds, the perception of "value" has gone away.
MOCA LIVE: The End of the Metaverse As We Know It, RIP Polygonal Mind, and an AI Metaverse with Untitled,XYZ
Today’s podcast takes a long, frank look at the foundation, the uproar, and the ultimate downfall of the “Metaverse,” as we knew it. Metaverse architect maestro, Untitled,XYZ, joins Max and Colborn to talk about the Metaverse’s early moments, its final moments, the fall of the Metaverse studio, Polygonal Mind, videogames, AI, and what Metaverse might rise from all these ashes.
MOCA LIVE: Criticizing Crypto Art Criticism, Who Gets to Create Context, and Being Trapped by One's Style with Eleonora Brizi
Max and Colborn welcome the curator and critic, Eleonora Brizi, back to the podcast for the 3rd time (!!!) to dive deep on crypto art's many problems with criticism. The three will tackle the lack of criticism in crypto art, and what has in many ways replaced it. They'll go into the difficulty of creating criticism while honoring crypto art's values, the trouble of artists being trapped in their own styles, whether criticism can ever be properly incentivized, and much more.
MOCA LIVE: Night of the Living Bots, The AI Agent Devolution, and the Juiced Number Incentive
Today's episode is all about bots: automated programs, AI agents, procedural scam artists, if it's performing an action without direct human intervention, we're breaking it down and talking about why it's important. Whether bots are used to juice follower numbers, mislead investors, or create artificial cultural ephemera, there's no denying their outsized impact on every crypto-adjacent. Max and Colborn dive deep on different kinds of bots, how they affect crypto culture, and whether crypto art can ever escape their influence, especially since the internet at-large cannot.
MOCA LIVE: The Impossibility of Innovation, AsyncArt's Legacy, and The Maslow's Hierarchy of Crypto Art Needs with Conlan Rios
Today, Max and Colborn welcome a crypto art legend, and one one of the founders of Async.Art, Conlan Rios, to talk innovation in crypto art: Can innovation occur sustainably from the business end? How can a business survive sustainably in crypto art? Drawing from three years running AsyncArt, a leading creative crypto art plaform, Conlan dissects the legacy of his own project, what lessons are applicable to all of crypto art, and the nasty era of un-innovation we (perhaps unavoidably) find ourselves in.
MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art's Failing Business Model, Killing Platforms with Values, Royalties, Criticism, and Bubbles
On today's episode, Max and Colborn dive headfirst into the noxious swamp that is crypto art's business environment. They trace crypto art businesses from early years until today, discuss the difficulty of running a sustainable business in crypto art despite rising crypto prices, wonder whether our values are incompatible with survival, debate criticism, and field a whole host of questions and comments from a rollicking chatroom.
MOCA LIVE: What Does Crypto Art Value, Remembering the Cypherpunks, Data Scientists and AI, with Martin Lukas Ostachowski
This week, Max and Colborn welcome the remarkable cloud artist and crypto art historian, Martin Lukas Ostachowski (MLO) to the podcast to plumb through the past for the values that crypto art holds dear, if there are any. Join us as we go back to the cypherpunks, through the creation of Bitcoin, back and forth through many years of crypto art to see what crypto art values, when those values were traded away, how data scientists and AI models might provide new hope for unearthing crypto art's actual history.
Read "Crypto Art - A Decentralized View...
MOCA LIVE: Airing Our Crypto Art Grievances (And There are a Lot of Them) with ROBNESS
In a crypto art world always on the edge of flaming-up into fury, Max, Colborn, and special guest ROBNESS spill a bunch of gasoline everywhere and light a match. The three will vent their deepest grievances about collectors, generative art, AI, art contests, and much more. Listen now...if you can handle the heat.
MOCA LIVE: Where Audiences Wander, Twitter is Terrible, Subscription Services, and If Warpcast is the Future with Max Jackson
On this week's episode, Colborn and Max (Cohen) welcome the OG crypto artist Max Jackson to MOCA LIVE for a discussion of, not art necessarily, but all those who love it. Audiences is the day's topic, and the three discuss the best (and worst) ways of finding an audience, what having a crypto art audience even means, the death of Twitter's reliability, the birth of new models of audience-seeking, and whether any such model can survive long-term.
MOCA LIVE: The Collector's Condundrum, Art We Don't Want, and the 10 New Definitions of Crypto Art with Artnome
On today's podcast, Max and Colborn welcome the legendary collector, writer, thinker, and crypto art forefather, Artnome, for a conversation about all things collecting and crypto art history. Beginning with the question "What do we do with art we no long like?" and opening up into a discussion of good vs. bad art in general, the trio eventually come to question and retool Artnome's foundational "What is Cryptoart," article from 2018. We somehow avoid talking for too long about the Boston Celtics.
"What is Cryptoart": https://www.artnome.com/news/2018/1/14/what-is-cryptoart
RightClickSave: https://www.ri...
MOCA LIVE: The Collaboration Revival, Did Artblocks Kill Collaborations?, and the Line Between Collabs and Derivatives with George Boya
Max and Colborn are joined by the OG crypto art collage artist George Boya for a podcast about collaborations, free artistic spirits, and creative processes. Inspired by George's recent series of collaborative pieces, Partners in Crime, the three go in depth on the importance of collaborations in crypto art culture, why the collabs suddenly ended (Artblocks, we're looking at you), what the process of creating collaborative artwork is like, how AI and derivatives factor into the collaborative ecosystem, and much more!
George Boya: https://twitter.com/BoyaGeorge
Partners in Crime: https://foundation.app/gallery/cultishnya
MOCYah or MOCNah: Moonbirds' CC0 Nightmare, Taking Advantage of Platform Incentives, Honoring Dead Artists, and an Existential Economy
Max and Colborn are back (with sound effects!) to assign archaic denotations of value to the biggest recent news stories (and end up spiraling into head-scratching discussions). This week, it's Yuga's questionably-illegal reverting of Moonbirds' commercial rights away from CC0, Latasha using Zora incentive fees to help recoup the losses from a wallet hack, the best way to honor traditional artists who have recently passed, crypto artist identity crises, and an existential economic moment.
MOCA LIVE: Embracing Your Pain, Confronting the World's Pain, and Anonymity with a Purpose with AwfulEye
In what feels like a particularly painful moment for everyone, Max and Colborn are joined by the multitalented artist, Awful Eye, to discuss...pain. Awful Eye's own story is one of pain and triumph and bravery, and their conversation today discusses Awful Eye's life, then and now, how he approaches identity in a space that sometimes reduces its members to a few details, how we can embrace and express our own pain in artistry, and what we need to do if we're to confront the world's pain with honesty and sensitivity.
MOCA LIVE: The State of Almost Everything (in Crypto) with Max and Colborn
Today's podcast takes advantage of a quiet time in crypto art to decode, dissect, and predict the future for five fundamental segments of the crypto world. Max and Colborn try to get a sense for the current state of Crypto Art, AI, the Metaverse, Cryptocurrency, and Crypto Culture. Five segments, five underlying questions, a veritable smorgasbord of far-flung answers. This is a good one.
Article referenced:
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/04/ai-magic-taking-over/677968/
MOCA LIVE: The New Face of Memecoin Fever, Incentivizing Artistry, 747Crash, and Correctly Making Memes with Anubis3100 and Sirsu
A perfect accompaniment for the post-NFTNYC trip home, this week's episode of MOCA LIVE is an intellectualized look at everyone's favorite internet-addled, gambling mechanism: memecoins. Colborn and Max talk with Anubis3100 and Sirsu, founders of the 747Crash coin, about how memecoins, despite their degenerate reputation, can actually be a powerful force for artist opportunity, can incentivize artistry and other community action, and are the natural evolution of an internet yearning to be commoditized.
https://twitter.com/anubis_3100
https://twitter.com/sirsuhayb
https://airport.gay/
MOCYah or MOCNAH: Base Frenzy, Highly-Intelligent Discourse, Cultural Appropriation, and NFTNYC
On today's MOCAYah or MOCNah, Colborn and Max first look towards the attention moving towards the Base blockchain, as a result of a million-minted XCOPY edition there. Then, they dissect a cultural appropriation conflict between artists Claire Silver and CyberYuyu, and debate the role of highly-intelligent, academic discourse in both crypto art today and any AI-flattened future. Finally, the two talk about the upcoming NFTNYC conference, what they're looking forward to, and what's different about this year's event.
https://twitter.com/XCOPYART
https://twitter.com/neonglitch86
https://twitter.com/ClaireSilver12
https://t...
MOCA LIVE: AI as we Know it (and as we don't), A History of StableDiffusion, and Feeding the Open-Source World with Huemin
Max and Colborn sit down with the great AI artist, an original StableDiffusion contributor, and founder of DeForum.art, Huemin, to get into the weeds about how various AI models actually work, how AI art as we know it came to be, how we can get more AI into more hands with more expertise, and the all-important Open-Source Development community: Keeping them incentivized, keeping them energized, and what are the risks if we don't.
Visit: https://deforum.art/ and https://www.huemin.art/ to learn more (you so should)
MOCA LIVE: A Metaverse State of the Union, WIPMeetup Memories, and Evolving Online Communities with Rizzle and Niftytime
Today's episode is all about the Metaverse, and who better to speak about it with than the hosts of the longest-running web3 Metaverse meetup (and crypto art OGs), Rizzle and Niftytime. From their early history with TheWIPMeetup, to building a Metaverse audience, to a long debriefing on where the Metaverse is today, Rizzle and Niftytime evoke five years spent building this still-unfinished, still-revolutionary way of being online.
Click to find:
Rizzle
Niftytime
TheWIPMeetup
MOCYah or MOCNah: A Billion Dollars is a Sickness, Choosing Rich, More Degeneracy, the Kevin Rose Coffin
Today's MOCYah or MOCNah tackles all the degeneracy in crypto and crypto art of late. That means Crypto Nick and choosing rich! It means Darkfarms1's logic-defying $BOME token! It means Kevin Rose being hopefully, mercifully gone from our lives for good! And it means a whole lot more discussion of Solana vs. Eth, cycles of degeneracy, and much more more!
MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art Going Wrong (and Right) in Reality, Lessons from a Performance, and Prioritizing Participation with OONA
On her record-breaking 3rd MOCA LIVE appearance, performance art extraordinaire OONA joins Max and Colborn to talk live performances, live events, how they go so right and so wrong, maximizing participation/discourse/creativity we meet face-to-face IRL, and so much more. Prepare for laughs, nihilism, and maybe even a few good ideas.
MOCA LIVE: Redefining Crypto Art Curation, and All About TASCHEN with Robert Alice
Max and Colborn take a long look at crypto art curation with the curator and writer of TASCHEN's On NFTs, Robert Alice. With Mr. Alice's art historical, curatorial, and cultural expertise on full display, the three discuss the nitty-gritty creation of a giant crypto art book, decentralizing curation, whether or not crypto art is dead, and stories from ON NFTs inception.
MOCYah or MOCNah: SHLOMS' Sunset, NFTParis, TASCHEN and Morrow Curations, and Art Prices in ETH or USD
Max and Colborn are back, and this time, they're playing for keeps. Listen and marvel as your two hosts affix the label of MOCYah or MOCNah to all the latest current events, from SHLOMS' latest performance art, the vibes at NFTParis, the curatorial decisions made by TASCHEN and Morrow Collective, and the return of a fan favorite argument "ETH or USD."
MOCA LIVE: The Web3 Censorship Crisis with Natrix
Today, Max is joined by the multifaceted artist, foundational crypto art writer, and censorship whistleblower, Natrix, to take on the dirtiest topic in "web3": How censorship —by platforms, by Twitter, and by the culture itself— infects everything that happens here. It's a conversation that ranges from Natrix's own experiences being censored, why censorship comes for sex workers first, and the only way we can collectively push back against censoring, centralized forces.
Natrix's Work Mentioned:
"It's Not Web3 Without Sex Worker Sovreignty"
Sisteen Chapel of Smut
Cryptosexuality 2.0
Fembots
OnlyMe...
MOCA LIVE: An Entirely New AI Art-Form, Technocrats vs. the Treehuggers, and Artists Becoming Worldbuilders, with Aleqth
This week's MOCA LIVE is a revelation about all things AI. Max and his guest, the artist and Makingit24/7 member Aleqth, explore a unique perspective on the philosophy, subtleties, and possibilities of AI artistry. From marketplaces for custom-designed datasets and the unstoppable proliferation of symbols, to the evolution of artists into worldbuilders, and the coming politicization between AI technocrats and technology naysayers, this is a madcap, jam-packed episode. It's an early 2024 highlight.
MOCYah or MOCNah: The VisionPro Crystal Ball, The Auction Houses Advancing, Botto's Big Sale, and Ownership in the AI Age
Max and Colborn finally return and to a newly-formatted weekly podcast: MOCYah or MOCNah! Taking on stories, topics, sales, and tidbits from around crypto art, and separating them into one of two overly simplistic bins: Good or bad, and why. Getting the Yah/Nah treatment today: Apple's newly-released VisionPro, auction house sales of poetry and NFT rocks, a big sale for early Botto AI work, and the Yuga/Proof acquisition.
MOCA LIVE: Taming the AI Beast, Magnified AI Education, Open-Source Models, Martians, and More with Gene Kogan and Vanessa Rosa
Max welcomes the artists/researchers/educators Gene Kogan and Vanessa Rosa to the podcast for another AI-centric episode. This time the conversation gets in the weeds about using AI to create connections between mediums, the layperson's changing understanding of AI, the necessity of AI education, where we can find the artist's heart in an AI artwork, chatbots, practical advice for creatives, and much more.
Find Gene Kogan at: https://genekogan.com/
His projects:
Eden: https://eden.art/
Abraham: https://abraham.ai/
https://medium.com/@genekogan/artist-in-the-cloud-8384824a75c7...
MOCA LIVE: Turning the World Into Meat, Celebrating Art Through Parody, the Twitter Abyss, and Crypto Art's Seriousness Problem with Diewiththemostlikes
On an episode covered in flies beside a highway off-ramp sex shop, Max and Colborn talk to provocateur and ground-beef purveyor, Diewiththemostlikes, about remixing eons of art in his own image, the power of parody, the social media abyss, the importance of keeping comedy in crypto art, and how looking deeply into the void is actually a kind of superpower.
Current Events and Company: A RarePepes Super Show!
Goodbye Current Events (for the moment), hello Current Events and Company! Colborn and Max are joined by a whole cavalcade of guests to discuss all things RarePepe, from the OG project's inception and influences, its expansion into every tiny little facet of crypto culture, its incredible memetic longevity, and the true value of the original RarePepes, the Nakamoto card that started it all.
Today's guests are:
Eleanora Brizi (@eleonorabrizi)
Samuel Holt (@CryptoPunkart)
Louis (@MemeConscious)
Aaron McCann (@WburgPizza)
MOCA LIVE: Crypto Art's Past, Present, and Frustrating Future with Moxarra and Eleanora Brizi
On today's podcast, Colborn and Max are joined by the curator, Eleanor Brizi, and the OG crypto artist, Moxarra Gonzalez, to talk about crypto art's humble beginnings, it's most important early figures, Moxarra's position as crypto art's resident journalist, the tired and the trite and most exciting parts of crypto art's present, and much more.
Current Events: The Bitcoin Spot ETF Super Show!
After the SEC announced this week that Bitcoin Spot ETFs can be traded on the U.S. stock exchange, Max and Colborn do a deep dive into what these ETFs are, why it took so long for their approval, and what this means for crypto and crypto art in both the short-term and long-term. Then the two revisit some of the best and worst Bitcoin ETF tweets in the new segment, MOCYa or MOCNah?
MOCA LIVE: Preserving Every Single Thing, Warring Over Data, Keeping Receipts Forever, and Stories from the Early Internet with Danny O’Brien
On today's podcast, Filecoin Senior Fellow Danny O'Brien joins Max and Colborn to explore the good, the bad, the dangerous, and the experimental aspects of preserving absolutely, positively everything on the internet. Danny takes us through the cultural wonders of preserving an art movement, the fight Filecoin is fight, the good and bad of having every online post live forever, his days as an early internet freedom fighter, and much more on this truly eclectic episode.
Current Events: Steamboat Willie Copyright, Ordinal Madness Continues, A $10000 Buzzsaw, and the Inaugural MOCYah/MOCNah
On the first Current Events of 2024, Max and Colborn hit all the stories they missed over the holidays, including crypto art's reaction to the Steamboat Willie copyright ending, the continued fervor around Ordinals, the U.S. Government's new law requiring KYC for all large crypto transactions, and Avalanche courting the PFP ecosystem. They end with the first MOCYah/MOCNah good and bad tweets of the week