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40 Episodes
ROV Offshore Operations Explained: Subsea Technology, Deepwater Robotics and ROV Careers | Sea Views
Yesterday at 3:45 PM

Remotely operated vehicles (ROVs) are now at the centre of modern offshore subsea operations, supporting everything from offshore energy infrastructure and subsea cable installation to deepwater inspection, survey work and underwater recovery missions.

In this episode of Sea Views, Julia Gosling and Adam Parnell speak with Andy Howie, founder of Pioneer Subsea and former naval submariner, about the real world of ROV operations and the role these systems play across the offshore and maritime industries.

ROVs allow offshore teams to operate thousands of meters below the ocean surface in environments where human divers cannot safely...


Self Care Routine for Mental Health, Nervous System Regulation & Trauma Healing | Self Care
Last Thursday at 9:27 PM

Daily self-care practices can dramatically influence mental health, emotional resilience, and nervous system regulation.

In this episode of Self Care, host Geraldine Hardy explores how intentional routines can help regulate stress, reduce anxiety, and support long-term emotional wellbeing.

Self-care is often misunderstood as indulgence. In reality, it is a discipline that supports clarity, resilience, and the ability to navigate demanding environments and personal challenges.

Geraldine shares how structured morning routines, meditation, body awareness, movement, and nutrition can help stabilize the nervous system and influence the tone of the entire day.

She...


Yachting Careers, Crew Welfare & Social Media Strategy | Captain’s Chat
Last Thursday at 4:21 PM

Social media is changing how professionals and businesses operate in the global yachting industry, and crew are increasingly thinking about how to prepare for life after the boat.

In this episode of Captain’s Chat, Captain Liam Devlin speaks with Maxine Holmes, co-founder of Superyacht Sisters, about personal branding, social media strategy, crew welfare, and why planning for a career beyond yachting is becoming more important than ever.

The conversation explores how Maxine entered the superyacht industry, the realities of working onboard, and how her experience in yachting led to building a business that helps ma...


Fear vs Trust: Captain Chris Durham on Leadership, Crew Culture & Safety at Sea
Last Wednesday at 3:21 PM

In this episode of Forward Watch, host Karine Rayson speaks with Captain Chris Durham, who shares lessons from 18 years in the superyacht industry and the leadership philosophy that shaped his career.

Early in his journey, Chris worked under highly hierarchical command structures where authority and fear often defined the culture onboard. Over time, those experiences led him to take a different approach to leadership, one grounded in trust, accountability, and psychological safety.

Chris explains why fear-based command can prevent critical information from reaching the bridge, why that matters for safety at sea, and how captains...


Luxury Yacht Linens, Royal Warrants & Crew Comfort with Ruth Douglas | Superyacht Laundry
Last Tuesday at 4:05 PM

In the world of superyachts and luxury hospitality, the smallest details often define the guest experience. Few details matter more than the quality of the linens and bedding used onboard by yacht crew and interior teams.

In this episode of Superyacht Laundry, host Cherise Reedman sits down with Ruth Douglas, Managing Director of Heirlooms Ltd, a company globally recognised for designing and manufacturing luxury linens for superyachts, private residences, and aviation.

Heirlooms holds Royal Warrants from the British Royal Household, recognising decades of craftsmanship, reliability, and service at the highest level of luxury hospitality.

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Crew Safety, Abuse and Accountability in Yachting | Protecting Crew Lives | The Crew Car
Last Monday at 10:26 PM

Crew safety in yachting is becoming one of the most urgent conversations in the maritime industry.

In this episode of The Crew Car, Captain James Battey speaks with Nikki Coetzer and Charni Johnson, founders of Protecting Crew Lives (PCL) — an initiative created after the tragic loss of a young yacht crew member that sent shockwaves through the global yachting community.

What began as a response to one tragedy quickly exposed a deeper issue within the superyacht industry. Crew from around the world began sharing stories of bullying, harassment, assault, toxic onboard cultures and environments where re...


Superyacht Brokerage, Charter & Ownership: Hannah Wolstenholme of Edmiston | Yachting USA
Last Sunday at 7:20 PM

How does someone go from working onboard as yacht crew to advising high-net-worth clients on superyacht charter, yacht sales, and yacht ownership strategy?

In this episode of Yachting USA, host Rick Thomas sits down with Hannah Wolstenholme, Sales and Charter Broker at Edmiston, to explore her journey from discovering the yachting industry at 19 years old to building a successful career in superyacht brokerage.

Hannah shares how mentorship, preparation, and persistence helped her move from crew into the highly competitive world of yacht brokerage, where trust, long-term relationships, and deep industry knowledge are essential. The conversation...


How South Florida Is Building a Global Blue Economy Hub | Phil Purcell & Bob Swindell
03/06/2026

South Florida is already known as the yachting and boating capital of the world, but could it also become one of the world’s leading centers for blue economy innovation, marine research, and ocean resilience solutions?

In this episode of The Blue Economy with Katherine O’Fallon, Katherine sits down with Phil Purcell, President & CEO of the Marine Industries Assoc. South Florida, and Bob Swindell, President & CEO of the Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance.

Together they share the story behind the creation of the Marine Research Hub of South Florida and why collaboration between universities, industry lead...


Yacht Captain to Real Estate Investor | Scott Kidd “The Yachtie Real Estate Investor” | The Bridge
03/06/2026

What happens when a career in yachting turns into a path toward financial independence?

In this episode of The Bridge, host Alex Siegers of Yacht Crew Center sits down with Scott Kidd, widely known as “The Yachtie Real Estate Investor.”

With more than 25 years in the yachting industry and over two decades as a yacht captain, Scott shares how he began investing in real estate while still working at sea and eventually expanded into development projects and the launch of a commercial real estate investment fund.

The conversation explores how the leadership, teamwork, and...


Anxiety, Panic and Nervous System Regulation During Uncertain Times | Self Care
03/05/2026

Anxiety, panic, racing thoughts, exhaustion, and difficulty sleeping are becoming increasingly common during periods of global uncertainty. When the external world feels unstable, the nervous system often reacts before the mind fully processes what is happening.

In this episode of Self Care, Geraldine Hardy explores how collective stress can trigger emotional and physical responses in the body, and why learning to regulate the nervous system has become one of the most important skills for maintaining mental and emotional wellbeing.

Drawing on trauma informed therapy, nervous system regulation practices, and embodied awareness techniques, Geraldine explains why...


Why Good Yacht Captains Are Hard To Find | Captain’s Chat
03/05/2026

In the yachting industry, hiring a captain is still too often based on a simple phrase: “I know a guy.”

But when owners are trusting someone with a multi-million-dollar yacht, crew safety, and the success of an entire voyage, relying on word of mouth alone is no longer enough.

In this episode of Captain’s Chat, Captain Liam Devlin speaks with Captain Kevin Pope, founder of Find My Captain, about mentorship, captain vetting, and the growing need for professionalism across the global yacht industry.

Kevin explains why mentorship is one of the fastest ways t...


Care & Fair: How the Carpet Industry Is Fighting Child Labour Through Education | Positive Waves
03/04/2026

How can the luxury carpet industry help eliminate child labour while supporting communities connected to global supply chains?

In this episode of Positive Waves, host Jana Thomas speaks with Rogier Janssen, Business Development Director at ICE International, about the industry-led Care & Fair initiative, a program created to combat child labour in carpet-producing regions through education, healthcare, and women’s empowerment.

Founded in 1970, ICE International is a Dutch family business specialising in bespoke handmade rugs and carpets used in superyachts, royal palaces, private aviation, five-star hotels, and luxury residences around the world. Alongside craftsmanship and design ex...


Superyacht Crew Wellbeing: ISWAN, YachtCrewHelp & The Future of Yacht Crew Support
03/04/2026

Crew wellbeing is one of the most important and least understood challenges facing the global yachting industry.

In this episode of Yachting USA, host Rick Thomas speaks with Simon Grainge, CEO of the International Seafarers’ Welfare and Assistance Network (ISWAN), and Laura Beard, Welfare of Yacht Crew Project Manager, about the realities of life onboard modern superyachts and why independent support services are becoming critical to the long-term sustainability of the industry.

At the center of the conversation is YachtCrewHelp, a confidential 24/7 multilingual helpline created specifically for yacht crew and their families, designed to provide in...


Women at Sea, Maritime Law & Leadership with Monica Kohli OBE
02/27/2026

There are still fewer than 2% of women working at sea. What does leadership in maritime look like in 2026?

In this episode of Women In Maritime, Julia Gosling speaks with Monica Kohli OBE — Senior Lawyer at Gard (U.K.), President of WISTA U.K., Trustee of The Seafarers’ Charity and Chair of the Indian Maritime Association (UK).

Monica shares how growing up connected to life at sea shaped her career in maritime law, and reflects on navigating a male-dominated industry where visibility, credibility and leadership carry additional weight.

In this conversation:

Women at sea...


Mercury Retrograde, Emotional Triggers & Leadership Boundaries | Self Care
02/27/2026

Emotional triggers, anger, grief, and boundary setting are not abstract spiritual ideas. They are leadership skills.

In this episode of Self Care, Geraldine Hardy explores what happens when heightened emotions rise to the surface and how to navigate them without reacting impulsively. Periods often associated with intensity, such as Mercury retrograde, can surface unresolved patterns, old grief, and unprocessed anger. The question is not why these emotions appear. The question is how we respond.

Drawing from trauma-informed therapy, nervous system regulation, yoga philosophy, and embodied awareness practices, Geraldine explains why anger often masks deeper grief...


Yacht Crew Investing, Money Mindset & Financial Freedom with Charl Minnaar | UNCENSORED
02/25/2026

Yacht crew earn high income with low living expenses. So why do so many leave the superyacht industry without savings, investments, or an exit strategy?

In this episode of UNCENSORED, host Marién Sarriera sits down with Charl Minnaar, The Yachting Investor and host of Rich AF, for a direct and practical conversation about money mindset, investing for beginners, compound interest, financial literacy in yachting, and escaping the golden handcuffs.

From junior crew just starting out to seasoned captains approaching career transition, this episode breaks down how to build real wealth while working at sea.


AI, Billionaires & the Superyacht Market | Kevin Koenig | Rich AF
02/24/2026

Artificial Intelligence is reshaping jobs. Billionaires are accelerating away from the middle class. And the superyacht market is still breaking records.

In this episode of Rich AF, host Charl Minnaar, The Yachting Investor, sits down with Kevin Koenig, yacht journalist and creator of The Yacht Fella, for a wide-ranging conversation on AI disruption, wealth inequality, yacht brokerage, and the psychology of ultra-wealth.

Kevin shares his journey from law and Goldman Sachs during the 2008 financial crisis to becoming one of the most respected voices in yacht journalism. They discuss authenticity in media, the rise of AI-generated...


Cyber Risk in Yachting: Protecting Superyachts from Digital Threats | The Crew Car
02/23/2026

Cyber risk in yachting is no longer theoretical. Superyachts are increasingly exposed to digital threats, ransomware, email spoofing, onboard system vulnerabilities and targeted cyber attacks. Yet many vessels remain underprepared.

In this episode of The Crew Car, Captain James Battey, Founder of Yacht Workers Council, sits down with Matthew Roberts of Anchorpoint to examine what cyber security really means inside the superyacht industry.

As vessels become more connected through bridge systems, satellite communications, AV and IT infrastructure, crew devices and shore side management platforms, the operational attack surface expands. This conversation explores how cyber risk...


Superyacht Refit Crisis: PLC Upgrades, Skilled Labour & Yacht Infrastructure | Yachting USA
02/22/2026

The superyacht industry is growing fast. The question is whether service infrastructure is keeping up.

With more than 800 yachts currently in build or contract worldwide, refit demand, control system upgrades, and technical service capacity are becoming critical issues across the global fleet.

In this episode of Yachting USA, host Rick Thomas speaks with Marcel Aartsen of OEM Yacht Service about the realities behind superyacht refits, obsolete PLC systems, skilled labour shortages, and the migration of vessels between the United States and Europe for technical support.

This is a direct conversation about what keeps...


Spiritual Leadership, Integrity & Discernment in Healing Communities | Self Care
02/20/2026

What happens when spiritual leadership lacks integrity?

In this deeply reflective episode of Self Care, Geraldine Hardy explores the growing global conversation around spiritual leaders, ethical responsibility, discernment, and alignment within healing communities, coaching spaces, retreats, and online wellness platforms.

As discussions around authority, influence, and accountability continue to surface across industries, this episode offers a grounded and professional perspective rooted in trauma-informed practice, nervous system awareness, and embodied leadership.

With over 15 years of experience in yoga, therapeutic modalities, nervous system regulation, and holistic self-care education, Geraldine shares her observations on the difference...


Crew Retention, Interior Leadership & Yacht HR with Lisa Gould | Captain’s Chat
02/19/2026

Crew retention, interior systems, and leadership structure are becoming defining factors in modern yacht operations.

In this episode of Captain’s Chat, Captain Liam Devlin speaks with Lisa Gould, Founder of On Deck Yachting, about the operational gaps that impact owner experience, crew stability, and onboard efficiency. With over two decades in the marine industry, Lisa shares why interior departments operate in silos, how missing documentation and handovers create long-term disruption, and why structured onboarding is critical for program continuity.

The conversation explores the reality behind luxury service delivery, the psychology of crew turnover, and th...


Captain Burnout, Crew Standards & Yacht Industry Reform | Captain James Battey | Balls of Wisdom
02/18/2026

Captain James Battey, founder of the Yacht Workers Council, joins Cherise Reedman on Balls of Wisdom to discuss captain burnout, crew welfare, stagnant wages, rotation standards, and structural reform in the superyacht industry.

This in-depth conversation explores the growing pressure placed on yacht captains and senior crew as compliance requirements expand, operational complexity increases, and industry standards struggle to keep pace with modern expectations.

From early crew-house culture to commanding yachts and launching an industry-wide support platform, Captain Battey shares first-hand insight into leadership responsibility, crew management, mental health strain, wage stagnation, and why unified...


Yacht Crew, Money & Gold: A Superyacht Chef Gets Honest | Rich AF
02/17/2026

Yacht crew are not bad with money.

They just live in a world where your boss flies in caviar by seaplane and your accommodation is free.

In this episode of Rich AF, Charl Minnaar, The Yachting Investor, sits down with Superyacht Chef Leandri Kerschbaumer to unpack what really happens to your money mindset inside the superyacht industry.

They talk lifestyle creep, tax-free salaries, beach club economics, and the slightly dangerous logic of “I’ll make it back next season.” Leandri shares why skipping university was her best financial decision, why “chasing men” turned out to be...


Joey Meen on the Superyacht Alliance, Crew Welfare & Industry Standards | Yachting USA
02/16/2026

The superyacht industry is growing fast. Fleet expansion is accelerating, new builds are increasing, and operational demands are becoming more complex across the sector.

But growth without alignment creates risk.

In this episode of Yachting USA, host Rick Thomas sits down with Joey Meen, IAMI GUEST Director and President of the Superyacht Alliance, to discuss the coordinated effort now underway to raise standards across the superyacht industry.

The Superyacht Alliance is not a discussion panel. It is a working coalition of associations focused on practical reform. The conversation explores crew welfare, fatigue and...


Founder Intuition, Leadership Boundaries & Building in Silence | Self Care
02/15/2026

What happens when your intuition tells you something is off?

In this episode of Self Care, Geraldine Hardy explores intuition, energetic boundaries and why founders must sometimes build quietly before they build publicly.

In a business culture that rewards constant visibility and updates, Geraldine reframes silence as discernment. When a project is still forming, when strategy is anchoring and agreements are not yet finalised, premature exposure can destabilise clarity and dilute conviction.

This episode explores:

• Why your first intuitive response is often the most accurate
 • Protecting projects during their conception phase...


How The Armada Club Is Changing First-Time Access to Yachting | Captain’s Chat
02/12/2026

In this episode of Captain’s Chat, Captain Liam Devlin speaks with Claire Hagen, Founder of The Armada Club, about why the traditional entry point into yachting no longer reflects how ultra-high-net-worth clients actually make decisions today.

They explore how privacy concerns, AI and changing expectations are reshaping client trust, and why short, real onboard experiences may become a more effective gateway into charter and ownership than legacy sales funnels.

The conversation also covers how a membership-led model can support brokers rather than bypass them, what this shift could mean for shipyards and designers, and wh...


CHIRP in Yachting: How Confidential Reporting Prevents Accidents Onboard | Balls of Wisdom
02/11/2026

In this episode of Balls of Wisdom, host Cherise Reedman speaks with Paul Shepherd from CHIRP about how confidential safety reporting is quietly changing risk culture across the superyacht and wider yachting industry.

This is a practical, experience-led conversation about what actually prevents accidents onboard — not after an incident, but before one ever reaches a report, an investigation or the media.

Paul explains how CHIRP works, why near-miss reporting is one of the most powerful safety tools the industry has, and how real operational risk is often hidden behind minimum compliance standards.

The di...


Uncrewed Surface Vessels Explained: Safety, Jobs and the Real Future of USVs | Sea Views
02/10/2026

What do uncrewed surface vessels really mean for safety at sea, maritime jobs and the future of offshore operations?

In this episode of Sea Views, hosts Julia Gosling and Adam Parnell are joined by Simon Adams, founder of The USV Group, for a practical, operations-led conversation on how uncrewed and remotely operated vessels are actually being used today.

This episode cuts through the hype around autonomy and explains the real difference between remote operations and fully autonomous ships, how regulation is evolving, and why human oversight remains central to safe maritime operations.

The...


Financial Planning & Income Protection for Yacht Crew | The Crew Car
02/09/2026

In this episode of The Crew Car, Captain James Battey, founder of the Yacht Workers Council, takes yachting’s version of car-chat culture on the road to tackle one of the most urgent and overlooked issues facing crew today, long-term financial security.

Filmed inside the car, Captain James is joined by Morgan Tebbutt from Halcyon Group, a former yacht crew member now specialising in financial planning for South African yacht crew working internationally.

The conversation focuses on the real financial risks created by rotational work, contract gaps and career instability across the superyacht sector.

...


Yacht Crew Welfare, Mental Health & Harassment in Yachting | Estelle Viriot, SEANERGY Yachting | Yachting USA
02/08/2026

In this episode of Yachting USA, host Rick Thomas speaks with Estelle Viriot, former superyacht chef and founder of SEANERGY Yachting, about the realities of yacht crew welfare, mental health, burnout and reporting culture across the global superyacht industry.

This is an operational, experience-driven conversation about what life onboard really looks like for professional yacht crew and why current systems around leadership, references, NDAs and management structures often leave crew without safe pathways for support.

Drawing directly from her own onboard experience, Estelle explains what led her to step away from active crew life and...


Health, Oceans and Climate Innovation in South Florida with Dr. Harry K. Moon
02/06/2026

In this episode of The Blue Economy with Katherine O’Fallon, host Katherine O’Fallon speaks with Dr. Harry K. Moon, President and CEO of Nova Southeastern University, about how ocean science, healthcare and climate research are converging to shape the future of South Florida and global resilience solutions.

From coral restoration and shark genomics to Arctic research expeditions and international partnerships in Greenland and Iceland, Dr. Moon shares how Nova Southeastern University is positioning the region as a global centre for ocean and health innovation.

The conversation explores how healthcare research and ocean science are...


Longevity, Nervous System & Daily Choices That Shape Your Health | Self Care
02/05/2026

Longevity is not a treatment, a machine or a biohacking shortcut. It is shaped by your nervous system, emotional health and the daily choices you repeat over time.

In this episode of Self Care, host Geraldine Hardy explores what longevity really means beyond wellness trends and life-extension technologies. Drawing on lived experience and clinical practice, Geraldine explains why sustainable health depends on integrating modern longevity tools with trauma-informed care, emotional awareness, movement and nervous system regulation.

This conversation looks at how stress, unresolved emotional patterns and lifestyle habits directly influence long-term wellbeing, and why real...


Yacht Crew Welfare, Leadership Culture and Fixing Retention with Yacht Workers Council
02/05/2026

Yacht crew welfare is now one of the biggest operational risks in the superyacht industry.

In this episode of Captain’s Chat, Captain Liam Devlin speaks with Captain James Battey, founder of the Yacht Workers Council, about why fragmented systems, inconsistent contracts and weak leadership culture continue to drive burnout, high turnover and loss of experienced crew.

They explain how improving onboarding, standardising crew support, strengthening accountability onboard and creating a single trusted ecosystem for training, legal guidance, mental health support and career development can directly improve retention, safety and owner experience.

This co...


Yachting Hiring Loopholes Exposed with Conrad Empson | Balls of Wisdom
02/04/2026

Balls of Wisdom is a special interview series under Superyacht Laundry, hosted by Cherise Reedman, spotlighting influential men who are actively shaping a safer and more accountable superyacht industry.

In this episode, Cherise Reedman speaks with Conrad Empson, known to many from Below Deck Mediterranean and founder of CrewPass, about the real loopholes that still exist in yacht hiring, background checks and crew compliance.

This is a direct, experience led conversation about how unsafe or unverified crew can still enter the industry, why CVs and employment history are rarely properly verified, and how repeat offenders...


Superyacht Crew Welfare, Abuse, NDAs and Power Dynamics with Cherise Reedman | Yachting USA
02/01/2026

In this episode of Yachting USA, host Rick Thomas is joined by Cherise Reedman, founder of Yacht Pearls of Wisdom and host of the Superyacht Laundry, for a detailed, experience-led discussion on superyacht crew welfare, onboard power dynamics, harassment and abuse, reference culture, NDAs and the structural barriers that continue to prevent meaningful reporting across the global yachting industry.

Cherise shares her personal journey into professional yachting, her transition out of life onboard and the motivation behind creating Yacht Pearls of Wisdom, a community designed to reconnect women after leaving the industry and to provide a safe...


Nitzeira Watson Stewart on Maritime Law, Leadership & Breaking Barriers | Women in Maritime
01/31/2026

In the first episode of Women in Maritime, host Julia Gosling speaks with Nitzeira Watson Stewart, Legal Representative of The Nautical Institute – Panama and a recognised Top 100 Woman in Shipping.

This candid conversation explores what it really takes to build credibility, authority and leadership in a male-dominated maritime industry. Nitzeira shares her journey through maritime law, professional rejection, international study, and the personal sacrifices behind career progression, including motherhood and long periods away from home.

The discussion focuses on real career pathways in shipping and shore-based maritime roles, the impact of age and gender bias, ho...


The Wounded Healer, Trauma & Nervous System Regulation in Real Life | Self Care
01/30/2026

Self-care is not about escaping life.
It is about nervous system regulation, trauma healing and sustainable performance under pressure while navigating real loss, responsibility and change.

In this deeply honest episode of Self Care, Geraldine Hardy explores the reality of the wounded healer and what real healing actually requires when life, leadership and personal responsibility collide. This is not a motivational conversation. It is a practical, experience-led discussion about trauma, burnout, addiction patterns, emotional suppression and nervous system regulation.

This episode is released at a meaningful moment for Geraldine, marking 28 years since the loss...


Women in Maritime, Safety Culture and Leadership at Sea | Captain’s Chat
01/29/2026

In this episode of Captain’s Chat, Captain Liam Devlin speaks with Julia Gosling, Director of Ahoy Communications, host of Sea Views and creator of the upcoming Women in Maritime podcast, launching soon.

Drawing on 18 years in UK Coast Guard and Maritime & Coastguard Agency communications, Julia discusses safety culture, leadership under pressure, and the human factors that shape life and work at sea. The conversation spans commercial maritime realities, behavior change in high-risk environments, crew welfare, and the challenges of maintaining safety standards where operational pressure and margins collide.

The discussion also addresses mental health at...


Black Pearl, Nuclear Yachts & the Reality of Modern Yacht Management | Superyacht Laundry
01/28/2026

Some of the most important conversations in yachting happen far from the spotlight.

In this episode of Superyacht Laundry, host Cherise Reedman speaks with Lydia Moss, Junior Yacht Manager and Business Development at Divergent Yachting, about a decade-long career spanning procurement, newbuild support, yacht management, and emerging marine technology.

Lydia offers a rare, full-spectrum perspective on how the yachting industry actually operates behind the scenes. From supporting complex newbuild projects to managing yachts that challenge conventional frameworks, she explains how roles often treated as separate are, in practice, deeply interconnected.

The conversation takes...


Boat Shows, AI and the Industry Shift from Brunswick’s View | Yachting Unplugged
01/26/2026

Boat shows are no longer just places to display products.

They are where artificial intelligence, autonomy, connectivity, electrification, and ownership models intersect with real commercial decision-making.

In this episode of Yachting Unplugged, Kim Sweers “The Boat Boss” is joined by David Foulkes, Chairman and CEO of Brunswick Corporation, for a grounded, executive-level discussion on how the global marine industry is being reshaped.

Drawing on insights from CES (Consumer Electronics Show), Boot DĂĽsseldorf, and the Miami International Boat Show, this conversation clearly distinguishes between where innovation originates, where it is refined, and where it ul...