Expansive CEO
Expansive CEO is a podcast for entrepreneurs, leaders, and visionaries who are ready to build businesses in alignment with their unique energy blueprint. Co-hosted by 6/2 Pure Manifesting Generator Hannah Chapman and 1/3 Pure Generator Lauren Ammon, the show blends Human Design, Gene Keys, and conscious leadership with real-world business growth strategy. Each episode explores what it means to build a business that is energetically aligned, emotionally sustainable, and financially grounded. Through conversations, teachings, and reflections, we dive into topics like: Human Design and Gene Keys as tools for leadership and decision-making Deconditioning from hustle, pressure, and the “not-self” in business Building offe...
What Dolly Parton Taught Us About True Wealth
Dolly Parton built extraordinary wealth in her lifetime—but her real financial legacy is what she chose to do with it.
In this special episode, we look at Dolly's incredible impact through her philanthropy, artistry, and generosity—and explore how her Human Design and Gene Keys reflect the way she created, stewarded, and shared prosperity.
Your job is to discover what matters to you—and build the financial capacity and structures that allow you to support it.
In this episode, we explore:
How Dolly turned extraordinary wealth into lasting impact
Why...
Vanity Metrics and the Illusion of Success
Seven figures in revenue.
Thousands of followers.
Big-name clients.
A growing team.
An impressive house, car, or Instagram feed.
From the outside, these can all look like evidence that you've made it.
But what if the business generating $1 million in revenue can't actually afford to pay its founder?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren unpack the vanity metrics we use to measure business success—and what can happen when we start building our businesses around proving we've succeeded instead of cr...
Why We Hide Money From the People We Love
Hiding the Target bags. Breaking down the Amazon boxes before your spouse gets home. Pretending the new dress has been hanging in your closet for years.
It's often treated as a harmless joke about marriage.
But...why is hiding money from our partners so relatable in the first place?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren take another look at money stories in the wild—this time sparked by a viral Instagram post joking about hiding purchases from a spouse.
Hiding is incredibly common, but hiding is th...
Your Money Stories Are Making Business Decisions for You
What happens when a money story you learned decades ago quietly walks into a pricing conversation with you?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon continue their conversation about changing relationships—this time focusing on one of the most important relationships in your life: your relationship with money.
Because becoming aware of a money pattern isn't enough to change it.
Eventually, life will give you an opportunity to repeat the old pattern or make a different choice.
And that's where the real work begins.
...
Why Great Relationships Require Different Choices
Relationships don't change by accident.
Whether it's your spouse, business partner, children, or even your relationship with yourself, lasting transformation begins with one simple question:
What if the problem isn't the other person... but the way you're relating to their energy?
In this episode, Hannah and Lauren explore how Human Design offers a powerful framework for understanding relationship dynamics—not to label or fix people, but to cultivate greater awareness, compassion, and cooperation.
Through personal stories, client examples, and practical insights, they unpack how our unique energetic blueprints shape the way we...
Your Business Has an Energy Too: What Its Astrology Reveals
What if your business has its own unique energy?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren explore a fascinating realization that changed how they think about entrepreneurship: your business has its own energetic blueprint.
By comparing their personal Human Design and astrological natal charts with the charts of X² Wealth Planning and Expansive CEO, they uncover why certain parts of their businesses feel effortless, why others feel limiting, and why collaboration has been the key to unlocking growth.
They also celebrate the launch of the new Expansive CEO Substack, w...
The Entrepreneurial Roller Coaster: Why Big Revenue Months Still Leave You Stressed
What if the problem isn't that you're not making enough money… What if it's that you don't have a system for managing it?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon unpack one of the most common financial challenges entrepreneurs face: the feast-or-famine cycle.
Whether you're landing large consulting contracts, launching coaching programs, or experiencing inconsistent revenue, they explain why big months often lead to bigger stress—and how building the right financial foundation can change everything.
Key Topics
The entrepreneurial revenue roller coaster
Why...
Projectors, Self-Love & the Responsibility of Your Definition
What if the part of yourself you've questioned the most is actually your greatest gift?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren explore a real coaching case study to unpack one of the biggest misconceptions in Human Design—especially for Projectors.
Together, they discuss defined vs. undefined centers, the responsibility that comes with your definition, and why learning to love yourself isn't just personal growth—it's part of your contribution to the world.
Learn:
Why Projectors struggle with "waiting for the invitation"
Defined vs. undefined cent...
No One Prepares You for the Financial Side of Divorce, Death & Inheritance
Divorce, death, and inheritance are some of life's biggest transitions—and yet almost no one teaches us how to prepare for them.
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon explore the emotional and financial realities that accompany major life events. From divorce settlements and business succession planning to estate documents and inheritance, they unpack why these conversations are so often avoided—and why having them early can protect the people you love.
Drawing from Hannah's two decades as a financial planner and Lauren's personal experience navigating divorce and the loss...
The Hidden Cost of Holding It All Together
What happens when you know all the tools, yet still find yourself completely dysregulated?
In this episode, Hannah and Lauren pull back the curtain on a difficult week involving the launch of X² Wealth Planning's newly redesigned website—and the emotional unraveling that unexpectedly followed.
What began as a technical challenge quickly became a powerful lesson in nervous system regulation, emotional processing, Human Design, Gene Keys, and the lifelong work of understanding ourselves more deeply.
Learn:
Why technical problems can trigger deep emotional responses
The hidden stress of entrepreneurship
...Live Human Design Reading with a Projector: Voice, Purpose & Leadership
What if the thing you've been searching for isn't another strategy, another certification, or another business plan?
What if the next level of your impact is hidden in your voice?
In this episode, Hannah and Lauren welcome transformational musician and voice activator Marni Mae for a live Human Design reading. Together, they explore the connection between voice, purpose, leadership, intuition, and what happens when we stop performing and start expressing who we truly are.
Learn:
Marni's Human Design as a 1/3 Splenic Projector and how it influences her work in...
What If We're Wrong About Human Design?
What happens when you question something you deeply believe in?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren explore a question sparked by Hannah's husband during their 20th wedding anniversary trip: "Do you think you might be wrong about something?"
That question opened the door to a profound conversation about Human Design, Gene Keys, self-discovery, parenting, relationships, healing, and what truly matters.
Rather than defending Human Design, Hannah and Lauren ask a different question:
What if we're wrong?
And perhaps more importantly:
...
Human Design, Money Stories & Financial Abundance
What if the problem isn't your mindset?
What if the real issue is the subconscious money story running underneath it?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon explore why the popular scarcity vs abundance conversation is far more nuanced than most coaches admit. They unpack the difference between mindset and what Lauren calls "bodyset," the subconscious patterns that shape our relationship with money, worthiness, safety, and receiving.
Together they discuss:
Why affirmations often fail to create lasting change
The...
Money Stories, Human Design & the Patterns Running Your Financial Life
What if your biggest financial challenge isn't your income, investments, or business strategy?
What if it's a story you've been carrying for decades without realizing it?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon celebrate the launch of Money Story Cards and dive deep into the hidden beliefs, emotional conditioning, and Human Design patterns that shape our relationship with money.
The conversation explores how childhood experiences, family dynamics, and unconscious conditioning create lifelong money stories—and how awareness becomes the gateway to freedom. Through personal stories, client experiences, an...
Healing Your Relationship With Money
What if your relationship with money was shaped long before you ever earned your first dollar?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren explore the hidden emotional patterns, nervous system responses, and childhood conditioning that shape our relationship with money — and ultimately impact our businesses, relationships, decisions, and sense of worth.
This conversation dives into:
✨ Money stories and subconscious financial conditioning
✨ Childhood experiences that shape spending and saving patterns
✨ Nervous system responses around money
✨ Hiding, guilt, over-giving, and fear of asking for money
✨ Human Design and emotional pa...
The Hidden Problem with “Proven” Business Strategies
What if the reason your business feels heavy is because you're trying to force yourself into someone else's structure?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren unpack the deep connection between Human Design, conditioning, entrepreneurship, prosperity, and building structures that actually align with who you are.
This conversation explores:
Why “proven strategies” don't work for everyone
The hidden cost of masking parts of yourself in business
How conditioning creates self-sabotage
Why entrepreneurs feel frustrated, burned out, or disconnected
The relationship between pros...
Why You Struggle to Receive More Money, Support & Success
What if the thing blocking more money, support, opportunities, and abundance isn't your strategy — but your ability to receive?
In this deeply personal episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren unpack the connection between gratitude, receiving, Human Design, Gene Keys, business growth, emotional conditioning, and prosperity.
They explore:
Why so many entrepreneurs struggle to receive support
The hidden link between overgiving and burnout
How childhood conditioning impacts money and worthiness
Why gratitude is more than positivity — it's a portal
The role of recognition in H...
Why Financial Discipline Isn’t Working (And What Actually Does)
If you've been “doing everything right” with your money… saving, budgeting, staying disciplined… and it still feels stressful, heavy, or misaligned, this episode is for you.
In this conversation, we break down why traditional financial discipline often fails and what actually creates peace, alignment, and sustainable prosperity.
We go deeper into the Gene Keys Pearl Sphere—the pathway to true prosperity—and why so many entrepreneurs are trying to skip the process by chasing results instead of alignment.
From entrepreneurs forcing themselves into systems that don't fit… to over-saving, under-living, and operating from outdated money...
Stop Building Your Business in Chaos—Here’s the Better Way
What if your business struggles aren't about strategy… but regulation?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, we break down the difference between a dysregulated entrepreneur and a regulated entrepreneur—and why this shift is the key to sustainable success.
We also dive into the massive energetic transition coming in 2027 and what it means for business owners, leadership, and how we relate to money, systems, and authority.
If you've been feeling overwhelmed, scattered, or like you're doing all the things but still not seeing consistent results… this episode will change how you see yo...
Stop Waiting to “Fix It” First: The Truth About Money, Mess, and Getting Support
Are you telling yourself you should have your finances “figured out” before asking for help?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon break down the 3 biggest misconceptions that keep entrepreneurs stuck, overwhelmed, and delaying the support they actually need.
If you've ever thought:
• “I should be able to do this myself”
• “It's too messy to let anyone see”
• “I don't even know where to start”
This episode is for you.
We dive into the emotional, energetic, and practical realities of money, business owners...
Why You’re Stuck (And How to Actually Expand Your Business)
What if business growth wasn't about doing more… but about becoming more aligned?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, we dive into the final phase of our core framework: Expansion—and why most entrepreneurs unknowingly hold themselves back from it.
If you've ever felt like:
You're growing… but something feels off
You hit a new level, then everything breaks
You want more—but you're also scared of it
This conversation is for you.
We break down how true expansion happens after discovery and alignmen...
Alignment Changes Everything: How to Align Your Time, Money & Energy for Real Wealth
What if the problem in your business isn't your strategy—but your alignment?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon break down the Alignment phase of the Regenerative Wealth framework—and why it's the key to sustainable success, clarity, and growth.
After uncovering your patterns in Discovery, Alignment is where everything starts to shift.
Inside this episode, we explore:
How to align your time, money, and energy with what actually works for you
Why your energy—not your effort—is your most valuable resource...
The Part of Business No One Wants to Face (But Changes Everything)
Most entrepreneurs don't fail because they lack strategy. They struggle because they avoid the one step that changes everything: Discovery.
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon dive deep into the real work of building a sustainable, aligned, and profitable business.
This isn't about hustle or about “just think positive.”
This is about:
âś” Facing your current financial reality
âś” Understanding your relationship with money
âś” Releasing shame, avoidance, and emotional weight
âś” Creating clarity so you can actually grow
Because the truth is…
You can't a...
Your Money Problem Isn’t Strategy—It’s Your Nervous System
What if your biggest money problem… isn't strategy — it's your relationship with money?
In this episode of the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon break down what it really means to build a business that supports your life — not drains it.
From Human Design and Gene Keys to financial systems and money story healing, this conversation bridges the gap between energy and execution in a way most entrepreneurs have never experienced.
You'll learn:
Why most entrepreneurs are financially dysregulated (and don't realize it)
How your Human Design impact...
Human Design in the Real World: Leading, Healing, and Working With Unaware People
What happens when you're doing the inner work… but the world around you isn't? In this episode, Hannah and Lauren explore the very real tension between personal growth and real life: building a business, making money, leading people, and navigating relationships in a world where most people are still operating unconsciously.
This conversation dives into the gap between understanding your Human Design and actually living it. Because in theory, every type has a beautiful role to play. But in practice? You still have to work with imperfect people, process projection, and learn how to stay true to yo...
How to Process Heavy Times Without Abandoning Yourself
When the world feels heavy, it can be hard to know what's actually yours to carry. In this episode, Hannah and Lauren explore what it means to move through collective heaviness, personal emotions, and real-life stress without abandoning yourself in the process.
This conversation brings Human Design into the very human experience of grief, overwhelm, uncertainty, and emotional processing. If you've been feeling the weight of everything lately, this episode offers language, perspective, and practical ways to move through it.
Learn:
Why heavy seasons make self-leadership more important than ever
How...
Stop Forcing Success: The Leadership–Systems–Money Triangle (Prosperity = Time, Money & Energy)
You can force your way to impressive results—and still feel depleted, resentful, or stuck. In this episode, Hannah Chapman and Lauren Ammon unpack why the traditional “grind harder” model fails so many high performers: it confuses who you are with what you achieve, and it treats leadership, systems, and money like separate problems instead of one connected ecosystem.
They introduce Expansive CEO's three pillars—Leadership, Systems, and Money—through a grounded definition of prosperity that goes beyond income: time, money, and energy in overflow.
You'll learn:
Why leadership, systems, and money can't be treated...
Connection as a Mirror: Using Human Design to Lead Yourself (and Others)
What if the reason some relationships feel energizing — and others feel draining — isn't “compatibility”… but mechanics? In this episode, Hannah and Lauren unpack how your design gets revealed through connection — and how your open centers can become either your biggest source of confusion… or your greatest leadership gift.
Why relationships reveal patterns you can't see on your own
How frustration signals misalignment with your natural rhythm
What changes when you make decisions the way you're designed to
How different working styles either create tension or deepen collaboration
When your body is commun...
Split Definition: Why Relationships Feel So Intense (and What to Do About It)
Some relationships don't fall apart because there's no love — they fall apart because you keep trying to “fix” a feeling you can't name. If you've ever thought, “Why do I feel fine alone, but incomplete with someone… or like something is missing unless they show up a certain way?”…you're not too needy, too intense, or “bad at relationships.” You might be living out a Split Definition pattern — where your energy is designed with a natural gap, and your mind turns that gap into a story: it's me… or it's you.
In today's episode, we break down what Split Definition...
Why You Feel Different Around Different People: Relationships Through Human Design
What if the real question in relationships isn't “Do I like you?” — but “Who do I become when I'm with you?” Inspired by Esther Perel's insight, this episode explores how Human Design + Gene Keys explain the energetic chemistry behind that feeling — and how to use it to create healthier, more honest connection.
This week on the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah Chapman, CFP® and Lauren Ammon break down why relationships often feel less about “compatibility” and more about who you become in someone else's presence. They translate this concept through the lens of aura mechanics, connection charts, and energetic dynamic...
Human Design Session: How to Lead as an Emotional Manifestor Without Burning Out with Stacey Davis
What's it actually like to receive a live Human Design reading—one that lands in your body, not just your mind? In this special episode, we do our first live reading on the show with Stacey Davis, exploring emotional Manifestor leadership, clean initiation, and how to create impact without over-giving, over-holding, or burning out.
Stacey Davis is an executive transformation mentor, ceremonista, podcaster, and lead steward of Solunara. She holds sacred containers for leaders and communities, guiding sovereignty, nervous system regulation, and sustainable and regenerative impact.
How a live Human Design reading actually works (and wh...
The New Fed Chair and a Smarter Way to Give
This week was a reminder that markets can experience meaningful movement even when the underlying fundamentals haven't changed. We saw volatility driven by rotation, rebalancing, and shifting investor expectations — not panic, and not systemic risk.
In this episode of Investment Friday, Hannah Chapman, CFP®, is joined by Brad Haines, CFA®, FRM®, CIO of Juncture Wealth Strategies, to break down what's actually happening beneath the headlines.
Together, they explore why markets are becoming more selective, how to interpret recent layoff announcements, what a new Fed chair nomination could mean for monetary policy, and why understanding tax-efficient strat...
The Crunchy Parts of Your Design: 2/4 Profiles + Resisting your Type
In our final episode of January's “Crunchiness” series, we unpack why certain parts of Human Design and Gene Keys can feel like… “ugh, why is that me?”
In this episode, Hannah and Lauren dive into the 2/4 profile (Hermit/Opportunist). Why the 2-line hermit needs solitude, why the 4-line opportunist's best opportunities come through your network, and how that inner tension can show up in business and relationships.
Learn more about:
Why parts of your design can feel “crunchy” at first
The difference between rejection vs. resonance
The 7-year deconditioning process
...How Much Do You Really Need to Retire? Rethinking the 4% Rule
This week was a great reminder of how quickly markets can move on headlines alone—without anything fundamentally changing underneath. We saw volatility driven by political rhetoric, followed by an equally fast recovery once that noise settled back down.
In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC®, helps you understand why this kind of movement doesn't mean something is “wrong” with the economy or your plan.
Additionally, she walks you through one of the most important retirement questions there is: how much money do you actually need to retire—and where the 4% rule helps, and where it fa...
The Crunchy Truth About the 3/5 Profile | 247
Some parts of Human Design and Gene Keys hit a nerve fast—especially when the language feels intense or “unflattering.” This month on the Expansive CEO Podcast, Hannah and Lauren are unpacking what's crunchy: the parts of your design that can trigger resistance, shame, or “Wait… why me?!”
In this episode, they pick up where last week left off and dive into one of the crunchiest profiles of all: the 3/5 (Martyr/Heretic). Together they reframe the meaning behind those loaded words, explain why 3/5s often feel like they're always “putting out fires,” and share how 3-line trial-and-error becomes wisdom w...
Signal vs Noise, Powell, and Why Fed Independence Matters (Plus 2026 Market Positioning)
There's a lot of noise right now—and it can hijack investor decision-making. In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP® and Brad Haines, CFA, FRM zoom out to separate signal from headlines, discuss early-year market context, and share what they're watching for 2026.
You'll hear why recency bias leads people to panic-sell, why earnings and innovation may matter more than day-to-day politics over a 5-year horizon, and why rebalancing at the start of the year can support both portfolio discipline and tax planning. Then, they break down a major story involving Jerome Powell and discuss why Federal Reserve independence is...
The “Crunchy” Language in Human Design & Gene Keys (and Why It Matters) | 246
Some parts of Human Design and Gene Keys feel… crunchy. You read the original transmission, the channel descriptions, the line language—and something in you goes: “Ew. I don't want that. I'm not that.” And if you're not careful, that reaction can quietly turn into self-rejection… which blocks the very transformation you're here for.
In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP® and co-host Lauren Ammon talk about why “softening” or rewriting the system to make it more palatable can actually keep people stuck. Together, they explore how to hold uncomfortable language with maturity, use the shadow as soil, and let your ex...
2026 Market Outlook, Interest Rates, Venezuela & the Future of the U.S. Dollar | Investment Friday 244
Investment Friday is entering an exciting new chapter!
In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® and Brad Haines, CFA®, FRM®, Chief Investment Officer at Juncture Wealth Strategies, share why Investment Friday is officially becoming its own podcast — launching February 2026 — and what that means for listeners who want grounded, historically informed financial insight without fear-based headlines.
Together, they unpack:
What really happened in markets in 2025
What the early data is telling us about 2026
Why “bad news can be good news” for markets
Labor market trends and interest rate expectat...
2026 Market Outlook, Interest Rates, Venezuela & the Future of the U.S. Dollar
Investment Friday is entering an exciting new chapter!
In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® and Brad Haines, CFA®, FRM®, Chief Investment Officer at Juncture Wealth Strategies, share why Investment Friday is officially becoming its own podcast — launching February 2026 — and what that means for listeners who want grounded, historically informed financial insight without fear-based headlines.
Together, they unpack:
What really happened in markets in 2025
What the early data is telling us about 2026
Why “bad news can be good news” for markets
Labor market trends and interest rate expectat...
Human Design for Entrepreneurs: Introducing the New Expansive CEO | 243
If you've ever felt like you're doing “everything right” in business but still swimming upstream—this episode marks a turning point. This is the first episode of 2026, and it's also the beginning of a new chapter for the Expansive CEO Podcast. One where we stop forcing strategies that don't fit, stop borrowing advice from people with completely different energy, and start building businesses that actually work with who we are.
In this episode, Hannah Chapman, CFP®, APMA®, CRPC® officially welcomes Lauren Ammon as co-host of the Expansive CEO Podcast. Together, they share why the show is shifting fully int...