The Parent Hope Podcast

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By: Jenny Brown

Clarity & hope for parents in these anxious times with Dr Jenny Brown. This podcast features examples from the frontlines of parenting, plus discussions with parents and helpers considering how best to be a positive resource for their child’s wellbeing. It draws from research and Bowen family systems theory revealing that families do best when the parent focuses on managing themself and clarifying parenting principles rather than changing the child.

Grandparenting Without the Drama: How the generations can work together, not pull apart
#11
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Grandparenting can be a gift—or a point of tension—depending on how generational differences are navigated. In this episode, Jenny Brown speaks with two special guests, Selden Illick and her daughter-in-law Alison Illick, about the subtle and powerful dynamics between grandparents, parents, and children. Drawing on Bowen family systems theory, they explore how patterns of anxiety, closeness, and loyalty ripple through three generations, and what differentiation looks like as adult children step into parenthood while their parents become grandparents.

Listeners will hear real stories of family life and discover how understanding family systems theory can help shif...


Parenting Beyond Worry: Breaking Cycles & Building Hope this Mental Health Month
10/02/2025

As parents, our worries can quietly slip onto our children’s shoulders.
But what if there’s another way?

This Mental Health Month (in our State: NSW), the Parent Hope Podcast explores how parents can support children’s well-being by first steadying themselves. Jenny Brown, founder and director of the Parent Hope Project, and Lauren Errington, executive Director of The Family Systems Institute, draw on Bowen Family Systems Theory to unpack how parental worry - often inflamed by mental health messaging - can be projected onto kids and how parents can step out of those cycles.

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Let Them Be: Resisting the Rush to Pathologise Adolescence with Dr. Briony Scott
#6
09/03/2025

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Briony Scott, renowned educator and advocate for young people, to unpack the growing tendency to pathologise normal teenage emotions. Are we too quick to label sadness as depression or worry as anxiety? Briony explores how this rush to intervene can sometimes do more harm than good—and what parents can do instead to raise emotionally resilient children. From navigating girlhood emotions to tackling toxic masculinity , this episode is an essential conversation for every parent raising teens today.


Links

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brionys/?originalSubdomain=au

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Partners, Not Strangers: How to Build a Positive Relationship with Your Child’s School
#6
08/05/2025

This episode explores how parents can become confident, empowered partners in their child’s education. Through insights from an educator and head of student wellbeing, we unpack the real challenges both parents and teachers face when trying to connect—and what helps bridge the gap. You'll hear practical strategies for building trust, improving communication, and creating a shared sense of purpose between home and school as part of a broader commitment to student wellbeing.

Jenny Brown in conversation with Lisa Chalmers : Director of Health & Wellbeing at Barker College. 

Lisa Chalmers is the Director of Health & Wellb...


Q&A: Reclaiming Calm Leadership in the Digital World
#6
07/16/2025

How do you help teens to raise their own awareness to the impacts of their screen addictions and to motivate them to stop doing it if they're refusing or denying that the phone's the problem?

In this follow up episode (see Episode 5), Vicki Wilkins and Jenny Brown respond to questions sent in at the end of a recent webinar.

They offer practical advice, urging listeners to consider a shift from reactivity to presence - focussing on setting digital boundaries, rooted in values and not panic.

If you're a parent, teacher or caregiver, this...


Reclaiming Calm Leadership in the Digital World
#5
07/03/2025

In this timely episode,  facilitator Vicki Wilkins interviews Dr. Jenny Brown — founder of the Parent Hope Project — to explore how parents and educators can reclaim calm, confident leadership amidst the chaos of the digital age.

Rather than focusing on fear-based data that leaves parents feeling overwhelmed or caught in  rigid control efforts, Dr. Brown offers a refreshing perspective: real influence starts with self-management, not child-management. Through insights and practical examples from Differentiation-Based Parenting, she guides listeners in considering a  shift from reactivity to presence—learning how to set digital boundaries rooted in values, not panic.

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Bridging the Gap: Parents Relating Positively to their Child’s  Mental Health Service
#4
06/03/2025

Bridging the Gap: Parents Relating Positively to their Child’s  Mental Health Service

In this episode, Jenny Brown and Dr Annemaree Bickerton explore how parents can effectively engage with mental health clinicians supporting their children. We discuss what parents can expect in terms of involvement, the different types of involvement that empower parents as key contributors to their child’s recovery, and how shared information builds trust. The episode also addresses the challenges parents may face, such as feeling intimidated by expert authority, and offers practical tips on how to ask for meaningful collaboration. Finally, we to...


The Parent Balancing Act: Supportive Parenting without Overdoing It.
#3
05/09/2025

In this episode, we explore a modern parenting paradox: how to be a supportive parent without overdoing it. Joining us again is researcher and family systems therapist Phil Kelver from Kansas, USA, sharing insights from his 20-year study of 50 families.

Together, we unpack his fascinating research about the effects of over-investing in our children, how parents can spot the subtle signs of doing too much, and what it takes to find a healthier balance in today's high-pressure parenting culture.

A thoughtful, eye-opening conversation for anyone navigating the fine line between care and control.

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Being a Light House - Parents bringing steadiness and calm in the storm of self-harm
#2
03/31/2025

Discovering that your child is self-harming is understandably fear- inducing for any parent. Drawing on Bowen family systems theory, PHP invites parents to consider first how they are responding when safety fears are raised – rather than focusing on the details of the self-harm and diagnoses.

In this podcast Jenny Brown interviews leading Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist Dr Annemaree Bickerton about parenting when a child is self-harming. They cover some of these questions:

What are the different ways parents might respond to a child’s cutting?

How can we make sense of young people’s self...


Parenting with Purpose: How Goal Setting Impacts Family Life
#1
03/04/2025

Goal setting – how parents setting applicable goals helps a family to function

In this first episode of 2025, Jenny Brown interviews Philip Klever, a clinician and researcher from Kansas City in the USA. 

Philip describes his research and what it reveals about the variations in what goals parents set and together they explore how goal settings and principles are connected for parents. 

In the Parent Hope programs, parents are asked to consider their principles when deciding on their position. Jenny asks the question: how are principles and goals related and are applicable goal...


REBROADCAST: How Bowen Family Systems Builds Hope for Worried Parents
02/23/2025

In this rebroadcasted episode, from Season 2 Episode 7, Jenny is back in the hosting seat with guest Dan Papero.

Dr Jenny Brown draws on Dan’s rich experience as a Bowen family systems scholar, teacher and clinician. They explore how our families are both the seedbed for symptoms and a garden of recovery. They explore how parents can contribute to their family becoming a garden for the sustainable growth and flourishing of its members – including its children.

This conversation builds on Dr Papero’s keynote addresses at the 21st Family Systems Institute Conference. https://www.thefsi.com.au...


REBROADCAST: Co-regulation or Self-regulation in Parenting
02/18/2025

In this Rebroadcast of Season 2, Episode 5, the tables are turned! Michelle Varcoe, interviews Dr Jenny Brown to discuss:

The importance of co-regulation in parenting.What is co-regulation?Are there potential pitfalls of focusing too much on co-regulation?Consider the role of self-regulation in parenting.Differentiation in Parenting: meaningful connection without invasion.

To hear more about Michelle go to Season 2 Episode 4 or see links below.

About Dr Jenny Brown:
Dr Jenny Brown has over 35 years of clinical experience in child, couple, and family health. Her primary clinical and research interest has been in Child and...


Sharing a Thought: Treatment can make things worse (3 of 3)
01/27/2025

Recent studies have found that several of these programs not only failed to help young people but also made their mental health problems worse. Jenny shares some thoughts about this and links it to the Bowen family system ideas of how focusing on a problem in a person can actually project or amplify that problem. 

Note: some of the research quoted is discussed in this NY Time article by Darby Saxbe professor of psychology at the University of Southern California

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/18/opinion/teenagers-mental-health-treatment.html#


Sharing a Thought: Always more than genetics and brain wiring (2 of 3)
01/15/2025

Jenny reflects on parents' questions about why they would need to be involved in addressing a child’s symptoms if it is from the child’s genetics or brain wiring. Even when genetics plays a part, the research points to the important influence of the child's environment. Parents can impact the environment in many growth-enhancing ways – this is the basis of building parent hope.

The book mentioned is: Hudson, J. L., & Rapee, R. M. (Eds.). (2005). Psychopathology and the family. Elsevier Science.  https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-15038-000

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Sharing a Thought: The problem is not the problem (1 of 3)
01/06/2025

Jenny shares some thoughts on how the way we respond to a concern is more impactful than just focusing on the content of the issue. We can research problems such as sleep or screen time issues, but all this information can add to a parent's intensity—considering the effects of our responses on our children is the place where progress and hope are built.

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Season 2 Ep 10: Challenging the Parenting United Front - Parents can't always be on the same page
#10
12/11/2024

In this episode, Jenny Brown delves deeper into Differentiation-Based Parenting, exploring how this approach extends beyond the parent-child relationship to include the dynamic between parenting partners.

Grounded in Bowen family systems theory, Differentiation-Based Parenting shifts the focus from solely addressing children’s needs and vulnerabilities to encouraging parents to develop greater self-awareness while maintaining a calm and connected presence with their children. By prioritising self-management, parents create emotional space that supports both their own growth and their children’s, fostering mutual independence alongside a strong, loving bond.

This approach helps parents recognise their emotional triggers and...


Season 2 Ep 9: Cultivating Connection & Independence: Part 1
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11/13/2024

In this episode, Jenny Brown introduces a title for the Parent Hope Project's parenting approach. Part one of this series asks the question: Is this just another parenting style with a whole lot of techniques?

Part two will explore what this approach looks like beyond the parent-child relationship, extending into the parenting partnership.

Differentiation-Based Parenting, rooted in Bowen family systems theory, emphasises the value of parents becoming more self-aware while maintaining a non-anxious connection with their children. Unlike most parenting approaches, which focus primarily on children’s needs and vulnerabilities, this approach encourages parents to cu...


Season 2 Ep 8: Engaging the Challenge of Children’s School Avoidance
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10/14/2024

In this episode of the podcast, Dr Jenny Brown sits down with Clinical Psychologists Ahmed Tohamy and Samantha Pilcher to explore the challenges of school avoidance and how families can support children in re-engaging with education. Ahmed, who recently spoke at the sold-out School-Link Forum Day Event in Illawarra and Shoalhaven, NSW, shares his experience piloting the Parent Hope Project, a family-based intervention aimed at addressing school refusal. Samantha brings valuable insights from her extensive work with families, providing a rich discussion on the emotional and practical challenges parents face in helping their children re-engage with school life.

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Season 2 Ep 7: How Bowen Family Systems Builds Hope for Worried Parents
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09/10/2024

In this Episode Jenny is back in the hosting seat with guest Dan Papero.

Dr Jenny Brown draws on Dan’s rich experience as a Bowen family systems scholar, teacher and clinician. They explore how our families are both the seedbed for symptoms and a garden of recovery. They explore how parents can contribute to their family becoming a garden for the sustainable growth and flourishing of its members - including its children.

This conversation builds on Dr Papero’s keynote addresses at the 21st Family Systems Institute Conference. https://www.thefsi.com.au/

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Season 2 Ep 6: Limit Setting and Responding to Children’s Misbehaviour.
#6
08/13/2024

In this episode, the tables are turned again as Vicki Wilkins, the Parent Hope Project Professional Programs Coordinator, interviews Dr. Jenny Brown. They discuss the topic of limit setting and responding to children's misbehaviour.

Does the family systems approach recognise that parenting involves responding to children’s misbehaviours?  This question seems to come up so much at parent events and in our parents' hope for professional training –  It speaks to parent uncertainty about what their leadership involves with so much conflicting advice out there.

Guest Host-Vicki Wilkins

Vicki Wilkins is a mother...


Season 2 Ep 5: Co-regulation or Self-regulation in Parenting
#5
07/01/2024

In this episode the tables are turned! Last week's guest, Michelle Varcoe, interviews Dr Jenny Brown to discuss:

The importance of co-regulation in parenting.What is co-regulation?Are there potential pitfalls of focusing too much on co-regulation?Consider the role of self-regulation in parenting.Differentiation in Parenting: meaningful connection without invasion.

To hear more about Michelle go to Season 2 Episode 4 or see links below.

About Dr Jenny Brown:
Dr Jenny Brown has over 35 years of clinical experience in child, couple, and family health. Her primary clinical and research interest has been in...


Season 2 Ep 4: Tantrums, Sleep Issues and Exhaustion - Staying Steady (enough) during the Early Parenting Years.
#4
06/02/2024

In this Episode Jenny and Guest Michelle Varcoe discuss tantrums, sleep issues and exhaustion - staying steady (enough) during the early parenting years.

Michelle brings her insight into what she sees as the main challenges in trying to stay steady in these very intense, exhausting parenting years.

Michelle Varcoe is a mother who is just coming up for air from the early parenting years. She is a seasoned mental health clinician, one of the specialist Parent counsellors at the Parent Hope Clinic in Sydney https://thefsp.com.au/parent-programs/.

She is particularly aware...


Season 2 Ep 3: Marriage and Parenting - It Takes More Than Love
#3
05/07/2024

In today's episode, Jenny will discuss Marriage and Parenting with a seasoned family therapist, author, Father and Husband, Arum Nadigel. With a special emphasis on Dads, they will explore what it takes to keep a marriage intact through the stresses and strains of the parenting years?  
They discuss big questions Like:  

What are the main stressors that parenting puts on a marriage?  Are there particular stressors in today's stress-laden climate (dual income stress – living away from extended family support)  years?  How do parents and spouses figure out how to do marriage and relationships? Do we need maps and role...


Season 2 Ep 2: Managing Extended Family Stress Without Adding to Parenting Worry
#2
04/01/2024

In this episode we will discuss an important finding from Bowen family systems theory: parents can detour our troubles onto our children. This is described as parents projecting the worry onto the offspring. 

Dr Carrie Collier will help us to think about this issue and address our build up of worry about children. 

How to make sense of the way issues in broader family relationships can increase a worry focus on children.How issues with our siblings, cut-offs with parents, or the death of a parent/grandparent can play out in our parenting.How a narrow fo...


Season 2 Ep 1: How parents can partner with schools to increase student and family confidence.
#1
03/03/2024

In this Episode of the Parent Hope Podcast Jenny Brown  explores  “How parents can partner with schools to increase student and family confidence” with Robin Shultz.

What makes for a positive partnership between parents and schools?
What can get in the way of this?
How can parents best deal with worries about how their child is doing at school?

Robin Shultz Bio
Robyn is a retired school social worker with 20 years of experience working in schools in the Chicago area. Now a private practice owner of New Legends Counselling, Coaching and Co...


(2023 Rebroadcast) Adolescents: Independence on Steroids
01/21/2024

The Summer Theme - Parents promoting responsible, age-appropriate independence & avoiding futile power struggles. 

These themes are relevant, whatever the age of your child.  

Adolescents present unique challenges for parents. For example, the reactive push for independence can be triggering for parents. In this podcast, Jenny reveals how parent efforts to correct behaviours can inadvertently reinforce a conflict cycle that can fuel a teen's physiological reward system: (sensation seeking). An overview of adolescent brain development makes sense of this reward system. 

More description here: https://parenthopeproject.com.au/podcasts/adolescents-independence-on-steroids/

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(2023 Rebroadcast) Toddler in meltdown: The first push for independence
01/09/2024

The Summer Theme - Parents promoting responsible, age-appropriate independence & avoiding futile power struggles.

These themes are relevant, whatever the age of your child. Enjoy this rebroadcast of “Toddler in meltdown- The first push for independence”

With toddlers the challenge is managing our responses to their huge learning spurt and push towards independence. This podcast describes 2 different parent toddler interactions involving a toddler not getting what they want. What is in a parent’s control to contribute to a toddler’s increased capacity to delay gratification?

Research links mentioned in podcast


Episode 15: Parenting Courses – Are they worth the effort? Lessons from an experienced Community Parent Educator
#15
12/04/2023

In this episode, we will discuss parenting courses with a family skills community educator. We'll explore what parents get out of carving out time for parenting courses – and are all parenting courses the same?         

How can parents get a confidence boost from accessing a parenting course?  Steve will share about differences in parent courses. He will provide examples of what parents have found most helpful and most challenging. And some tips for facilitating a parenting course in a way that helps parents develop their own insights relevant to their unique family. 

Stephen Dinning  Family and Life Skills Educa...


Episode 14: Parents connecting with their adolescents
#14
11/05/2023

Join Jenny as she asks Marie Vakakis what she has learned from her  young clients about their relationships with their parents.

Parents connecting with their adolescents will explore questions like: How can parents best connect with a seemingly shut-off teen and How not to be intimidated or overwhelmed by the dramatic tech revolution – do parents really need to be up on the latest technology to connect with their teens?

About Marie Vakakis

The Therapy Hub: https://thetherapyhub.com.au/about-us/

Qualifications

Bachelor of Art...


Episode 13: Grandparenting Relationships
#13
10/08/2023

In this Episode of the Parent Hope Podcast Jenny Brown  explores Grandparenting with Selden Dunbar Illick. 

They discuss what makes for flourishing “grandparenting relationships”, with adult children, in-laws, grandchildren and the grandparenting partner if relevant). 

With a Family Systems Lens in view they discuss the common pitfalls in these relationships, for example triangles. They will also discuss the value of working on self. 


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Episode 12: Parenting with a Backdrop of Trauma and Adversity - How this affects building confidence in parenting
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09/06/2023

In this episode Jenny talks with Dr Linda Mackay on parenting with a backdrop of trauma and adversity and how this affects building confidence in parenting.

Linda MacKay is an accredited psychotherapist & counsellor, who practices in Mudgee, Blaxland and offers online sessions. She is also a lecturer, trainer, and supervisor, with degrees and qualifications in counselling, couple and family therapy and her PhD in critical psychology (UWS). 

Linda lectures at undergraduate and postgraduate level at the University of Notre Dame, counsels private individuals, and coaches business executives who wish to optimize their performance as leaders. S...


Episode 11: When Parents Undermine Each Other
#11
08/01/2023

This podcast explores a common tension between parents about how each responds to a struggling child. One parent reacts with more nurturing and the other with more firmness. Each feels critical about the other’s management of one of their children.  

Amber McPherson, Programs Coordinator at the Parent Hope Project interviews Dr Jenny Brown about parent-style tensions. Jenny has a recently published article on this topic: Making Sense of the Parenting 'Soft/Hard Split'  

 Jenny also interviews a mother and father about their experiences of these tensions and how they have changed the way they respo...


Episode 10: Is there such a thing as a calm parent?
#10
07/02/2023

In this episode Jenny discusses with Dr Kathleen Smith the challenges and opportunities for parents managing fears and anxieties.

What are the challenges of managing anxiety about our kids? What are the opportunities and benefits of parents working on managing their fears? 

Kathleen Smith is a licensed therapist and mental health writer who lives in Washington, DC. She has written for popular publications such as Slate, Salon, New York Magazine, Lifehacker, Bustle, and Counseling Today, among many others. She is an associate faculty member at the Bowen Center for the Study of the F...


Episode 9: Parents Becoming Good Observers of Themselves
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06/04/2023

In this episode, Jenny Brown will be in discussion with Lauren Errington sharing stories of working with parents who are worried about 1 or more of their children.

Lauren is the Executive Director of the Family Systems Institute Sydney. She also lectures at Charles Sturt University and has a clinical practice at the Family Systems Practice Network.

The stories shared will reveal what parents gain from observing their interactions – Lauren and Jenny will reflect on learning to observe themselves in their own families.

Links:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/an...


Episode 8: Staying Connected When Emotions Run High
#8
04/30/2023

In this episode, Jenny Brown interviews renowned Child and Adolescent Psychiatrist Dr Annemaree Bickerton about her work supporting parents managing their child or adolescent's strong, and often dangerous, emotions and behaviours. 

Listen to how parents can be a lighthouse for children in stormy times. They listen rather than fix and allow the child to learn to surf the challenging waves of life.

To find out about the Staying Connected Courses: https://www.islhd.health.nsw.gov.au/services-clinics/family-and-carer-mental-health-program-0/staying-connected-when-emotions-run-high

To watch the video mentioned – This is...


Episode 7: Raising Kids Who Care - What is Within a Parent's Influence?
#7
03/30/2023

In this podcast, Jenny Brown interviews Susy Lee, prize-winning author, speaker, and educator. They discuss Susy's prize-winning book 'Raising Kids Who Care: Practical Conversations for Exploring Stuff That Matters, Together'.

Susy writes:
'In our complex world, we need to be aware of looming pitfalls and be intentional in helping kids navigate their way to compassion and wonder, driven by values and purpose.'  This path of conversations leads to amazing hope.

In this conversation, Jenny explores Susy's thoughts on how parents can influence the development of a kind and caring child without making a c...


Episode 6: Young Adults - The challenge of launching
#6
02/21/2023

Parenting doesn’t end when a child leaves school. In fact, parenting can become even more complex with young adults, especially if they are struggling to manage adult responsibilities. 

In this podcast, Dr Jenny Brown talks about ways parents can be a resource to a young adult child who is navigating an increasingly complicated and demanding life transition. 

Using a case example, she highlights the value of parents staying connected but not over-invested in their adult child. Creating space for building independence and pulling back from accommodating a child’s under-functioning is critical. This can be cha...


Episode 5: Parenting Children with Special Needs
#5
01/29/2023

In this podcast, Jenny Brown explores the challenges of parenting Special Needs children – neurodiverse kids or children with a biological impairment of some kind. She interviews Nicole Clarke, who is both a mother of a child with Autism and a school counsellor. 

It is helpful to consider if the same principles of working on the parent rather than the child apply to special needs kids. A systems view suggests that any added stress and anxiety can be relieved by a parent by making a more intense project out of finding help and treatments for a chi...


Episode 4: Adolescents - Independence on Steroids
#4
01/08/2023

Adolescents present unique challenges for parents. For example, the reactive push for independence can be triggering for parents. In this podcast, Jenny reveals how parent efforts to correct behaviours can inadvertently reinforce a conflict cycle that can fuel a teen's physiological reward system: (sensation seeking). An overview of adolescent brain development makes sense of this reward system. 

The podcast invites parents to consider two typical cycles of interaction: Escalating fighting with a teen, with a parent staying stuck in the conflict, believing that if they "lose", they are a poor parent leader. The other is the cycle o...


Episode 3: Pre- teens – Busy Parent, School Challenges and Screen Time
#3
12/18/2022

In this podcast, Jenny talks about the pre-teenage phase, parents' worries about school performance, and the impacts of excessive screen time. How can parents respond to these issues without an anxious worry focus? What is the effect of parents representing themselves to their children instead of trying to fix or change their children? You will hear an example of busy working parents of an 11-year-old who is falling behind at school. Their interactions in reaction to their worries provide clues about what is and isn't helpful in their parenting responses. Some research findings around helping children with language development...