Future Proof

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By: Kantar & Saïd Business School, Oxford University

Future Proof is the marketing podcast from Said Business School, Oxford University, and Kantar, the world’s leading marketing data and analytics company. In each episode, we’ll have a frank discussion with an expert, to help brands and business leaders navigate the changing landscape of marketing… and hopefully dispel some myths and misconceptions along the way. Looking at big industry question through both a market research and an academic lens, we can help prepare marketers for the future (with proof). All episodes and more info at https://www.kantar.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more inform

Kantar BrandZ Insights from Brand Builders 2025: A conversation with Georgia Balinsky, Vice President, Global Head of Brand & Creative, RBC
06/18/2025

For the 20th anniversary edition of BrandZ’s global report, Adele Jolliffe, Head of Head of Brand Consultants, Kantar talks with Georgia Balinsky, Vice President, Global Head of Brand & Creative, RBC about the evolution of marketing and brand-building over the past two decades and the importance of brand in driving growth.

Georgia is Vice President, Global Head of Brand & Creative at RBC. She is a modern brand building expert whose mission is to establish the power of brand as a catalyst for value creation in today’s hypercompetitive business landscape.

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Kantar BrandZ Insights from Brand Builders 2025: A conversation with Marcel Marcondes, Global Chief Marketing Officer, AB InBev
06/04/2025

For the 20th anniversary edition of BrandZ’s global report, Adele Jolliffe, Head of Brand Consultants, Kantar talks with Marcel Marcondes, Global Chief Marketing Officer, AB InBev about the evolution of marketing and brand-building over the past two decades and the importance of brand in driving growth.

Marcel joined AB InBev in 2005. Prior to becoming the company’s Global Chief Marketing Officer, he held a variety of roles at AB InBev, including Global President of Beyond Beer Co. and Chief Marketing Officer at Anheuser-Busch. He also spent seven years in brand management at Unilever in Brazil.


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Kantar BrandZ Insights from Brand Builders 2025: A conversation with Abhinav Kumar, Global Chief Marketing Officer, Tata Consultancy Services
05/21/2025

For the 20th anniversary edition of BrandZ’s global report, Martin Guerrieria, Head of Kantar BrandZ, talks with Abhinav Kumar, Global Chief Marketing Officer, TCS about the evolution of marketing and brand-building over the past two decades and the importance of brand in driving growth.

Abhinav is the Chief Marketing Officer of TCS, leading a team of 700 professionals in 55 countries who oversee the company’s brand, reputation and stakeholder relationships. In a 23-year career at the company, he has performed several leadership roles including CMO for LATAM, Europe and all international markets, winning over 150 brand and...


Navigating Consumer Trust in Advertising
05/07/2025

In this episode of Kantar’s Future Proof Podcast, Nicole Jones speaks with Jesse Waldele from the Wall Street Journal about the evolving landscape of advertising and consumer trust. They discuss the paradoxical nature of today's consumers, the importance of building trust in a polarized environment, and strategies for engaging diverse audiences, particularly Gen Z. Jessie shares insights on optimizing advertising campaigns, leveraging offline channels, and ensuring brand safety. The conversation highlights the Journal's commitment to providing valuable content and analysis while adapting to the changing needs of advertisers.

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The Power of Meaningful Difference in Marketing
04/23/2025

In this episode, Jane Ostler speaks with Professor Koen Pauwels Associate Research Dean and Distinguished Professor of Marketing at D’Amore-McKim School of Business at Northeastern University and Mary Kyriakidi, Kantars Global Thought Leader, to discuss the current state of marketing, focusing on Kantar's Blueprint for Brand Growth. They explore the significance of meaningful difference in branding, the correlation between penetration and sales, and the importance of being present in the market. The conversation also delves into pricing power, the role of innovation, and the impact of AI on marketing strategies. 

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Paws and Effect: Marketing Strategies in the Canine World
04/09/2025

In this episode Jane Ostler talks to Nick Daniel, former CMO of Dogs Trust and Director of Flying Foxes Consultancy, to explore the unique challenges and strategies in charity marketing. They discuss the importance of brand identity, the competitive landscape of the nonprofit sector, and the growing role of partnerships and influencer marketing. 

 

Nick also highlights the challenge charities face in standing out as commercial brands increasingly align themselves with social causes, blurring the lines between corporate and nonprofit impact. As donor behaviours shift and dog ownership trends evolve, he shares insights on how charities ca...


The Real Magic Cannes Creative Brand of the year, Coca-Cola with Islam ElDessouky
03/19/2025

Coca-Cola's creative brilliance was celebrated at Cannes last year. In this Future Proof Podcast with Islam El Dessouky, Global VP of Creative Strategy and Content Lynne Deason explores what it is that gives Coca-Cola campaigns their real magic and fizz. This unmissable, inspiring and enjoyable conversation covers topics that anyone focussed on creating effective advertising today needs to master. 


Creating Emotional Connections: the art of crafting advertising that resonates emotionally and leaves a lasting impactEmotion alone isn't enough: why brand centricity isn't a nice to have and how to achieve itBuilding Brand Consistency: how to mai...


From FOMO to Function: How Should Marketers Leverage GenAI?
03/05/2025

GenAI dominates marketing conversations, but how does it connect to capability building and the evolving role of marketers? While excitement around GenAI is high, adoption remains low with less than half of those with access use it regularly. So, what’s holding marketers back?


In this episode, host Jane Ostler is joined by Thomas Von der Fuhr, Head of Organisational Performance at Kantar, to discuss insights from the newly published report, GenAI in Marketing: Fear or FOMO. They discuss what marketers are saying about the barriers to adoption, the importance of organisational readiness, and how GenAI ca...


How can marketers get the most out of their digital campaigns?
02/18/2025

In today’s episode, we’re exploring the marketing opportunities advertisers have in audio forward environments. Audio is present in nearly every moment of our lives, from weddings to commutes, workouts, and relaxation – and now marketers have more ways to engage their target audience in these spaces, and they aren’t just sound based. In recent years, the rise of podcasts and audiobooks has reshaped how people engage with audio, creating a deeper connection with streaming platforms and shifting public perceptions of media channels.

 

Jenny Haggard, Global Brand Strategy Lead at Spotify, joins Kantar’s Chief Media...


Future Proof: Why marketers need to evolve their approach to Brand Performance
02/13/2025

Over the past few years, marketers have nearly perfected their approach to performance-based marketing. However, research shows that the businesses that perform the best over time have a strong command over brand value. For brand marketers, this is great news and luckily, there is a lot that can be learned from the techniques and approaches from performance marketers in terms of supercharging brand.

 

Nicole Jones, Kantar’s Chief Media Commercial Lead and Ryan Brendle, Global Director of Marketing Sciences at Reddit, dive deep on the lessons brand marketers can take from their performance based colleagues and...


How the Streaming Experience is Evolving for Viewers and Marketers
02/04/2025

TV and video streaming are two of the most effective ways to reach audiences and predispose more people. According to Kantar Media Reactions, consumers find advertising on TV and TV streaming fun and entertaining and that TV sponsorships have better quality experiences. Marketers too are planning on investing more in CTV advertising experience. 

 

And yet, despite this interest, Kantar found that in Q3’24, only 16% of video streamers are happy with the relevance of ads shown to them.

 

Nicole Jones, Kantar’s Chief Media Commercial Lead and Anna Miller, Head of Ad Measure...


What are Kantar’s key Marketing Trends for 2025?
01/31/2025

In this episode of Future Proof, Jane Ostler talks with fellow Kantar experts Duncan Southgate and Gonca Bubani to discuss their latest report, Marketing Trends 2025. They explore the shift towards total video, the evolving social media landscape, and the rapid growth of retail media networks. The conversation highlights the importance of sustainability in marketing strategies and the transformative potential of generative AI in creative development. The experts provide insights into how marketers can stay ahead of the curve and future-proof their strategies for 2025 and beyond.


The discussion also delves into the challenges and opportunities presented by...


This Year Next Year: What’s going on in Advertising and Media?
01/15/2025

The advertising industry is experiencing a rapid transformation driven by AI advancements and an ongoing shift towards digital channels. This evolution is accompanied by increased scrutiny and regulation, creating a complex environment for marketers. These are the key findings of the latest "This Year Next Year" report, recently published by GroupM.

 

In this episode of Kantar's Future Proof, host Jane Ostler engages in a compelling conversation with Kate Scott-Dawkins, Global President of Business Intelligence at GroupM, and author of the report. They discuss the key trends highlighted in the study, including the predicted growth in a...


Brand Strategy Unpacked: Unearthing the essence of Eurovision
12/23/2024

Having a clear brand positioning is key to creating brand consistency and connection across time and touchpoints. The Eurovision song contest is hosted by a new country with a new campaign each year so creating brand clarity is especially key.

 

In this episode, Lina Moussaoui, Brand Manager for the Eurovision Song Contest at the European Broadcasting Union and Marise Pronk, Senior Account Manager at Kantar talk to Lindsay Gorton-Lee, Brand Strategy Consultant at Kantar about how they unearthed the essence of the brand and created a clear framework to connect and inspire all their internal and...


Brand Strategy Unpacked: Connecting via Collabs and Culture with Malibu
12/16/2024

Brand collaborations are a powerful marketing lever to unlock growth whether your strategic goals are to drive Meaningful Difference, Predispose More People, Find New Space or Be More Present.


No wonder 1 in 4 marketers cite collabs as an important tactic in the 2024 Language of Effectiveness report by Marketing Week and Kantar.


Lindsay Gorton-Lee, Brand Strategy Consultant at Kantar and Becky Ingram, Client Partner at Kantar chat to Gui Pasculli, Head of Culture & Partnership for Malibu at Pernod Ricard.


They unpack how brand collabs are helping Malibu to connect to culture and deve...


The secrets behind innovative strategies and partnerships at Iceland
12/12/2024

In this episode of Kantar's Future Proof podcast, Dr Nicki Morley, Head of Behavioural Science and Innovation at Kantar, interviews Oliver Gilding, Head of Innovation and Licensing at Iceland, to discuss their approach to innovation through unique product development and strategic partnerships.

 

Oliver shares insights on the importance of being bold and tenacious in innovation and how Kantar's Concept AI tool has allowed them to make informed decisions in a crowded marketplace and stay ahead in the competitive retail market.

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Unlocking Innovation: Insights from Unilever’s Philippa Tilley
12/06/2024

In this Future Proof podcast, Dr Nicki Morley, Head of Behavioural Science and Innovation at Kantar, speaks to Philippa Tilley, the Global Head of Radiant Brands at Unilever.


Philippa provides an in-depth look at how Unilever fosters meaningful innovation, integrates sustainability with superior product performance and utilises AI - all whilst emphasising the importance of curiosity and conviction when bringing innovative ideas to life.


Listen for valuable advice for innovators and an enlightening discussion on navigating the dynamic marketing landscape. 

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Brand Strategy Unpacked: Creating collabs for growth with Iceland and Myprotein
12/02/2024

Brand collaborations are a powerful marketing lever to unlock growth whether your strategic goals are to drive Meaningful Difference, Predispose More People, Find New Space or Be More Present. 


No wonder they are in the top 3 most important tactics mentioned by marketers in the 2024 Language of Effectiveness report by Marketing Week and Kantar.


Lindsay Gorton-Lee, Brand Strategy Consultant at Kantar unpacks both the strategic intent and phenomenal impact of brand collaborations with Oliver Gilding, Head of Innovation & Licensing at Iceland and Brett Hamer, Product Director for Myprotein at The Hut Group.


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TikTok Shop: Revolutionising e-commerce with live shopping and innovation
11/27/2024

In this episode, Dr Nicki Morley, Head of Behavioral Science and Innovation Expertise at Kantar, discusses the innovative expansion of TikTok Shop into the e-commerce space. Joined by Jauneen Tarin, Head of Connected Shopper Practice at Kantar, and Nora Zukauskaite, Integrated Marketing Director for TikTok Shop, the conversation delves into TikTok Shop’s unique approach to e-commerce, its rapid growth, and the challenges faced along the way. Tune in to uncover the secrets behind the differentiation of TikTok Shop from other platforms, the importance of live shopping, and strategies for brands to succeed in this new space.

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Unlocking Bold Growth: Insights from PepsiCo’s Mustafa Shamseldin
11/21/2024

How does a brand like Doritos achieve consistent global growth? In this episode of Future Proof, we explore this with Mustafa Shamseldin, the Category Growth Officer and CMO for International Foods at PepsiCo. Mustafa shares how he fosters synergies across cross-functional teams to facilitate holistic brand growth, integrating functions from supply chain to innovation. He also discusses the strategic decisions behind Doritos’ impressive global penetration and its recent win at the Kantar Brand Blueprint Awards.


Mustafa delves into the science behind growth and how PepsiCo leverages data to inform its strategies. He highlights creative campaigns, including a...


The Best Christmas Ads 2024: From Elves to Ads - TUI’s Toby Horry on Brand Building
11/14/2024

In this festive podcast episode, Lynne Deason chats with Toby Horry, Global Marketing Director at TUI, about his role in decking the halls of the TUI brand. 

Tune in to learn the strategic thinking behind how the brand is expanding its perceptions and delivering impactful and memorable effective marketing campaigns.


The Best Christmas Ads 2024: Unwrapping campaign effectiveness

More than just ad testing. Expertise you can trust from the industry's most connected view of campaign effectiveness. ​

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The Best Christmas Ads 2024: Cracking the Code of Creative Effectiveness with McCann
11/13/2024

Get into the festive spirit with Lynne Deason and McCann's Global Head of Effectiveness and Retail, Jamie Peate, as they unwrap the secrets behind building a shared effectiveness culture.

Plus, discover insights into how creativity and brand centricity are the key to effectiveness. 


The Best Christmas Ads 2024: Unwrapping campaign effectiveness

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The Best Christmas Ads 2024: Cadbury’s Secret Santa Campaign
11/12/2024

In this insightful conversation, Lynne Deason, Head of Creative Excellence at Kantar, interviews Nicole Dudley, Brand Manager – Christmas and Halloween at Cadbury, about the success of Cadbury’s Secret Santa campaign.

Cadbury’s innovative multichannel approach to festive marketing has made it the fastest-growing confectionery brand at Christmas, achieving a 43% increase in sales and £80 million in additional revenue.

Unwrap a sneak peek at Cadbury's Christmas plans for 2024, valuable lessons on maintaining brand consistency with a 'purple thread' of distinctive brand assets, the importance of diversity and inclusion, and the benefits of sticking with a successful campaig...


Talkmobile: How a ruthlessly simple customer experience delivered market leading growth
11/06/2024

Can you provide great customer experience and the lowest prices? Of course! But how? Join Peter Aitken, Head of Customer Strategy at Kantar, as he sits down with Stuart Wilson and Sarah Boyle from Talkmobile, a leading mobile virtual network operator and part of the Vodafone family. As leaders in sales, marketing, and customer operations, Stuart and Sarah have transformed Talkmobile’s TrustPilot scores, earned numerous industry awards, and achieved sustained growth—all while maintaining low prices. Their secret? A relentless focus on delivering a simple, customer-first experience, with frontline staff actively involved in design decisions. Discover how this approach not...


Creative strategies for Magnum with Denise Van Strien and Camilla Facin
10/31/2024

In this episode of Future Proof, we delve into the transformative power of creativity in addressing business challenges. Join us as we chat with Denise Van Strien, Senior Global Marketing Manager at Magnum, Camilla Facin, Head of Strategic Planning at Lola Mullen Lowe, and Vera Sidlova, Global Creative Thought Leadership Director at Kantar.

 

Discover how Magnum marketing team harness consumer insights and innovative strategies to turn business problems into compelling, human-centric campaigns. From the award-winning “Stick to the Original” campaign to breaking seasonal barriers with “Find Your Summer,” learn how creativity not only drives brand different...


Navigating the future of digital advertising with Meta's Richard Lloyd
10/24/2024

In this episode of Future Proof, recorded at Cannes Lions week, Jane Ostler, Global EVP Thought Leadership at Kantar, sits down with Richard Lloyd, Meta’s Director of Marketing Science, Global Clients and Agencies. They discuss the evolving landscape of digital media, the rise of online video, and the critical importance of attention in advertising. Richard shares insights on how brands can stand out in a crowded market, the role of AI in media planning, and the future of attention measurement. 


Richard also discusses the significance of human connection in digital advertising, emphasising the need for emo...


HSBC UK: Banking on bold authentic marketing for success
10/09/2024


In this compelling episode of the Kantar Future Proof podcast, Lynne Deason, Head of Creative Excellence, talks to Sarah Mayall, Head of Brand for HSBC UK. Together, they explore the intricate journey of crafting multi-award-winning marketing campaigns—including a recent bronze IPA Award—that not only achieve commercial success but also have a positive impact on society and staff.


Learn how authenticity, creativity, boldness, and strategic partnerships fuel memorable, brand-centric connections that make your brand meaningfully different from others. The most valuable inspiration for developing effective marketing campaigns is often found in particularly chal...


Unveiling the power of behavioural science in marketing: A deep dive with Richard Shotton
09/26/2024

Are you a marketer looking to understand how behavioural science can open up new opportunities for your brand? Then look no further than this Future Proof Podcast episode.

 

Dr Nicki Morley, Head of Innovation and Behavioural Science Expertise at Kantar, and Richard Shotton, author of The Choice Factory and the Illusion of Choice, discuss the challenges of behavioural science in the industry, how it can drive sustainability agendas and, of course, their favourite behavioural science interventions 🧠🧪

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Tech frustrations and chocolate breaks, a conversation with KitKat’s creative minds
09/20/2024

What if taking a break from technology could be as simple as enjoying a chocolate bar? In this episode of Future Proof, we delve into the world of KitKat’s latest campaign, one of the winners of the Kantar Creative Effectiveness Awards 2024. Join host Jane Ostler for an insightful conversation with Wael Jabi, Head of Marketing for KitKat at Nestlé, Tom Drew, Executive Creative Director at VML in London, and Polly Wyn-Jones, Global Knowledge Manager for Creative and Media at Kantar. Discover how the team identified the universal frustration with technology as a key insight and transformed it into a c...


Decoding IKEA’s marketing success
09/02/2024

Ever wondered how IKEA manages to blend affordability, sustainability, and functional design seamlessly? In this enlightening episode of Future Proof, host Jane Ostler, EVP Global Thought Leadership at Kantar, welcomes Gianluca Toccafondi, the marketing lead at IKEA, who won the Most Meaningfully Different Award in our recent Brand Blueprint Awards 2024. Gianluca delves into IKEA’s unique approach to sustainability and how it is embedded in their product design and business model. He highlights the brand’s focus on creating affordable, functional, and sustainable solutions that cater to the needs and dreams of many people. Additionally, he touches on IKEA’s glob...


How can CMOs build a more trusted media landscape?
08/20/2024

Jane Ostler, our EVP of Global Thought Leadership, caught up in Cannes with Josh Stinchcomb, Global Chief Revenue Officer at Dow Jones. They discussed the dynamics at play in the media environment, with traditional monetisation models under threat, the erosion of trust in media, and AI looming large. So, what is the role of CMOs in this maelstrom? With brand safety and ROI high on the list of marketing leaders’ concerns, Josh argues for a truly data-led approach to media planning, calling on CMOs to invest in trusted news platforms and practice caution with the blunt tool of block lists.


From This Year to Next: Predicting Media’s Future with GroupM’s Kate Scott-Dawkins
08/06/2024

Join Jane Ostler, EVP Global Thought Leadership at Kantar, as she engages in a fast-paced and thought-provoking conversation with Kate Scott-Dawkins, Global President of Business Intelligence at GroupM, during Cannes Lions week. They dive into GroupM’s “This Year, Next Year” report, discussing the transformative impact of AI, the rapid growth of retail media, and the evolving landscape of political advertising. Discover how these trends are reshaping the media world and what it means for brands aiming to stay ahead in a dynamic market.

 

In this episode, Kate also shares insights on the importance of responsi...


How to harness Generative AI for creative effectiveness?
07/30/2024

In this episode of the Future Proof podcast, host Věra Šídlová engages with Elaine Rodrigo, Chief Insights and Analytics Officer at Reckitt, to explore the transformative role of generative AI in marketing. They delve into Reckitt's innovative AI tools from insights and idea generation, to creative asset adaptation. Can generative AI models be inclusive? What is the future of machine learning and generative AI in marketing? Tune in to learn about how generative AI can be woven into marketing workstreams to enable marketers to be not just more efficient but also more effective. This podcast was recorded in the Kant...


How should brands Find New Space?
07/25/2024

In this episode, Jane Ostler talks to Kantar's Rob Wade about how brands must Find New Space, the third Growth Accelerator in the Blueprint for Brand Growth. They discuss the strategic exploration of incremental opportunities beyond a brand's current market. It involves identifying new categories, occasions, or services where a brand can extend its reach.


For example, San Pellegrino, known for sparkling water, successfully ventured into flavoured soft drinks in cans, demonstrating a creative way to find new spaces without cannibalising existing sales. Another example is Lurpak Butter, which capitalised on advertising to amplify existing uses...


Why do brands need to Be More Present?
07/24/2024

Jane Ostler talks to Kantar’s Paul Murphy about the second Growth Accelerator of the Blueprint for Brand Growth, Be More Present, focusing on optimising marketing investments across product range, distribution, pricing, and promotions. Paul Murphy highlights Nike’s strategy of balancing digital and physical retail presence to meet diverse consumer needs. The importance of omnichannel presence is emphasised, with examples like Harry’s, a men’s razor company, expanding from online subscriptions to physical retail partnerships.


They also discuss the significance of range in attracting different buyers, using Heinz Beans’ various formats and variants as an example...


Why do brands need to Predispose More People?
07/23/2024

Jane Ostler talks to Kantar’s Adele Joliffe about the first Growth Accelerator in the Blueprint for Brand Growth. Brands need to Predispose More People to increase the probability of purchase, and this can be measured through Demand Power and Pricing Power. Adele highlights the importance of predisposition in both acquiring new customers and retaining existing ones, emphasising that it is not a guarantee of loyalty but rather a spectrum, where the goal is to strengthen and scale predisposition among as many individuals as possible.


Examples from various sectors, including grocery retail and streaming video, show su...


Why do brands need to Be Meaningfully Different to More People to drive growth?
07/22/2024

In our first of four special Future Proof podcast episodes about the Blueprint for Brand Growth, which aims to help CMOs and marketers drive value, especially in challenging economic times. Host Jane Ostler talks to Kantar’s Graham Staplehurst about the Blueprint’s Growth Driver, Be Meaningfully Different to More People. This episode highlights the importance of growing revenue, margin, and brand value. Strong brands are shown to outperform the stock market and are more resilient to economic shocks. Graham talks about the key to growth being meaningfully different to more people by creating rich, meaningful associations in consumers’ minds...


AI 2030: Provoking insights for smarter and more efficient outcomes
07/15/2024

Ready to provoke your insights? Learn more about AI and the 2030 Insight Model! By provoking your insights, you allow Insights professionals enhance efficiency to focus on genuine human empathy. Provocation entails a narrative of action that begins with but does not end with data. Listen to J. Walker Smith ,Global Knowledge Lead at Kantar; Mark Visser, Global Head of Consulting at Kantar; and host Jane Ostler, EVP, Global Thought Leadership at Kantar in this insightful episode.

Find out more: https://www.kantar.com/inspiration/ai/ai-2030-provocation-makes-the-difference 

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Marginal to mainstream innovation: How looking to the 1% could unlock your future brand growth
07/10/2024

Brands in today's world are often fighting for growth in the same places, there is a need for someone to be bold and do something different. The next big trends always start in the margins of society.

 

In this podcast, Dr Nicki Morley is joined by Dr Helen Edwards (Adjunct Associate Professor of Marketing at London Business School, Author, Columnist, and Consultant), to discuss how the key to understanding growth is having a greater focus on consumers and the behaviours they find value.


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What challenges do CMOs face today? A conversation with Mark Read, CEO of WPP
07/05/2024

In this episode of the Future Proof podcast, host Jane Ostler sits down with Mark Read, CEO of WPP, to delve into the current landscape of marketing and how brands grow. They explore the pressing challenges faced by CMOs, including navigating economic turbulence, the fragmentation of media, and the global versus local brand debate. Mark shares his insights on how AI is revolutionising the industry, enhancing creativity, and optimising marketing strategies. The discussion also highlights the importance of focusing on fewer, bigger, and better initiatives to drive growth and maintain brand consistency. Tune in to gain valuable perspectives on leveraging...